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Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by HabaHaba: 7:08am On Dec 31, 2020
If this development does not discuss how to correct the wrongs done to the Igbos all these years. All the subjugation, relegation, and defraudings of that blessed people, sincerely Nigeria will still continue to bask in poor leadership.

Why am I soliciting for an Igbo/Yoruba Presidency?
Because of Justice to them. Haba, why can't people reason the injustice done to their socalled country men, the Igbos?!

Also, the Igbos are very fit to lead judiciously and right all the wrongs of the past administrations.

What's wrong with giving them their deserved mandate let everyone rest abeg?!

Also, the Igbos are not really known for tribalism because the Igbo man is known to be his own brother's enemy. The Igbo man would rather give a Hausa man opportunity than his own blood brother.
I don't know why, but the Igbos have naturally altruistic nature.

My personal opinion though, and like I still reiterate, I'm not an Igbo man. Just a sincere Nigeria.
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by dignity33: 7:10am On Dec 31, 2020
Nigeria like to complain yet they will keep on campaigning for looters to be president, what is people like Orji Kalu, Tinubu, Osibanjo, Atiku, etc who have track record of corruptions still doing in the affair of a nation while we have people like Peter Obi with fair record if not for tribal bigotry in Nigeria politic.

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Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by 8686(m): 7:10am On Dec 31, 2020
Amazing how Osinbajo isn’t even in the discussion.

Wisdom is the ability to study times, seasons and tides.

As if we don’t know they’re all fighting for their pockets. Yeye dey smell
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by tunapawizzy: 7:12am On Dec 31, 2020
leadzeal:
Restructuring Nigeria is a gamble well worth taking. But what is the big deal if this present government actualize it. 2023 is far considering the fragile string still holding Nigeria as an entity.
A northerner at the helm will not restructure Nigeria... this is my only grouse with GEJ and OBJ partly
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by bolaayenimo: 7:14am On Dec 31, 2020
Welcome development..restructuring Nigeria is the way to go
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by ubola: 7:15am On Dec 31, 2020
Samson0599:
If they want to be fair,they should rally their support round a sincere Igbo man, personally I like Peter Obi, former Anambra State governor to be Nigeria's president,that is our Messiah right now,that is the kind of man that can cut the excesses of the government , build the economy, save for the country etc A presidency under Peter Obi won't tolerate borrowing and will never tolerate using bogus funds to execute small projects, besides he is sound,young,Hale and hearty, presentable, charismatic etc... Please all the igbos should throw support for this man.This is my own opinion..Nigerian must be great
Nb: Before some pipu start calling me ipob,I am a full fledged Yoruba guy
Well said, but let his party PDP give him nomination first, then the rest will be history.
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by Tvibes001(m): 7:15am On Dec 31, 2020
These groups only represent their pockets, they don't have the interest of the masses in heart.
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by tunapawizzy: 7:20am On Dec 31, 2020
HabaHaba:
If this development does not discuss how to correct the wrongs done to the Igbos all these years. All the subjugation, relegation, and defraudings of that blessed people, sincerely Nigeria will still continue to bask in poor leadership.

Why am I soliciting for an Igbo/Yoruba Presidency?
Because of Justice to them. Haba, why can't people reason the injustice done to their socalled country men, the Igbos?!

Also, the Igbos are very fit to lead judiciously and right all the wrongs of the past administrations.

What's wrong with giving them their deserved mandate let everyone rest abeg?!

Also, the Igbos are not really known for tribalism because the Igbo man is known to be his own brother's enemy. The Igbo man would rather give a Hausa man opportunity than his own blood brother.
I don't know why, but the Igbos have naturally altruistic nature.

My personal opinion though, and like I still reiterate, I'm not an Igbo man. Just a sincere Nigeria.
I agree that Igbos will make better managers of the economy n resources...I agree that they deserve the Presidency NOW...I dont agree with the tribalism part. Even election results show d south west have the least tribalistic tendencies(at least in politics). That's by d way, the real message is that the Igbos deserve to produce the president NOW.

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Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by petrage(m): 7:28am On Dec 31, 2020
dignity33:
Nigeria like to complain yet they will keep on campaigning for looters to be president, what is people like Orji Kalu, Tinubu, Osibanjo, Atiku, etc who have track record of corruptions still doing in the affair of a nation while we have people like Peter Obi with fair record if not for tribal bigotry in Nigeria politic.
This Peter Obi you people keep hyping is no presidential material. His candidacy is DOA! In the interest of equity, A Nigerian of Igbo extraction should be the next President.
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by mrkia(m): 7:31am On Dec 31, 2020
Samson0599:
If they want to be fair,they should rally their support round a sincere Igbo man, personally I like Peter Obi, former Anambra State governor to be Nigeria's president,that is our Messiah right now,that is the kind of man that can cut the excesses of the government , build the economy, save for the country etc A presidency under Peter Obi won't tolerate borrowing and will never tolerate using bogus funds to execute small projects, besides he is sound,young,Hale and hearty, presentable, charismatic etc... Please all the igbos should throw support for this man.This is my own opinion..Nigerian must be great
Nb: Before some pipu start calling me ipob,I am a full fledged Yoruba guy
bastard jatijati!!!!
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by Nobody: 7:32am On Dec 31, 2020
post=97574291:


SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I have read the recent transmissions by Senator Bukola Saraki directed at my Igbo tribe. I have deliberately kept mum on this as I had earlier resolved to speak less on Igbos as regards the 2019 Elections and 2023 Presidency having said quite a bit. 

However seeing as some of my brethren have swallowed the cheap bait, I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. 

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. 

REWIND TO 2014. 
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. 

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. 

Now barely 5 months to another election, we have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023". "Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, who has only but a fanthom dream of becoming President and whose only known record is selfishness but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not even finished one and a half tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 

Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. 

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. I heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

I really don't care what Saraki writes or says because they've all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

I've learnt not to bother myself anymore to avoid unnecessary abuse from nonentities . As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it.

Ka Chineke mezie okwu. 


Go back sleep kiddo.
Too early to be yarning dust online.
What a young comedian! grin cheesy wink
Bro,if the presidency is not handed to the Igbo and not just any Igbo man but Peter Obi,Then Nigeria is not fair to the igbos... Though I got your assertions up there but we don't need that right now, let the past be past .....we need a sound president,a business minded president, a president who can give analysis on economic terms.

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Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by bolaayenimo: 7:39am On Dec 31, 2020
APC will scatter them before 2023. That's my fear
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by EMMY76: 7:41am On Dec 31, 2020
Am full blooded igbo but I don't think is wise to support SE politicians like rochas, umahi, kalu etc who don't believe in a restructured nigeria I have not even heard any of these SE politicians speak on the restructuring of nigeria.
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by Isobug: 7:45am On Dec 31, 2020
post=97574291:


SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I have read the recent transmissions by Senator Bukola Saraki directed at my Igbo tribe. I have deliberately kept mum on this as I had earlier resolved to speak less on Igbos as regards the 2019 Elections and 2023 Presidency having said quite a bit. 

However seeing as some of my brethren have swallowed the cheap bait, I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. 

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. 

REWIND TO 2014. 
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. 

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. 

Now barely 5 months to another election, we have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023". "Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, who has only but a fanthom dream of becoming President and whose only known record is selfishness but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not even finished one and a half tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 

Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. 

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. I heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

I really don't care what Saraki writes or says because they've all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

I've learnt not to bother myself anymore to avoid unnecessary abuse from nonentities . As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it.

Ka Chineke mezie okwu. 


Go back sleep kiddo.
Too early to be yarning dust online.
What a young comedian! grin cheesy wink

You waisted such a time to write this just because of hate to a certain tribe..... This is terrible.
Anyway, You should just know that however a government is formed, it is for the people. The people here does not exclude any part or tribe, whether they were part of the formation of the party that produced the government or not or whether they like the government of the day or the president or not. It's their right to demand anything from the government or from the country. Be it Presidential seat or dividends. It is their right
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by Arielle: 7:51am On Dec 31, 2020
gigabyte13:



NIGERIANS.... SORRY WHICH NIGERIANS...??
PRESIDENCY IS NOT GIVEN BY ISSUING THREAT,
IT IS A GAME OF NUMBERS AND ALLIANCES,
YOU GUYS SHOULD LEARN HOW TO PLAY THE GAME.
Well said.
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by EMMY76: 7:51am On Dec 31, 2020
Samson0599:
If they want to be fair,they should rally their support round a sincere Igbo man, personally I like Peter Obi, former Anambra State governor to be Nigeria's president,that is our Messiah right now,that is the kind of man that can cut the excesses of the government , build the economy, save for the country etc A presidency under Peter Obi won't tolerate borrowing and will never tolerate using bogus funds to execute small projects, besides he is sound,young,Hale and hearty, presentable, charismatic etc... Please all the igbos should throw support for this man.This is my own opinion..Nigerian must be great
Nb: Before some pipu start calling me ipob,I am a full fledged Yoruba guy


The powers that be will still frustrate him if he doesn't dance to their tune the current structure of nigeria and the 1999 Constitution make it almost impossible for any southern president to perform and bring any reasonable lasting changes.
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by Nobody: 7:53am On Dec 31, 2020
Difrent:
THEY ARE ALL TRIBAL SUBSIDIARIES OF PDP



Apc zombie
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by Nobody: 7:56am On Dec 31, 2020
gigabyte13:



NIGERIANS.... SORRY WHICH NIGERIANS...??
PRESIDENCY IS NOT GIVEN BY ISSUING THREAT,
IT IS A GAME OF NUMBERS AND ALLIANCES,
YOU GUYS SHOULD LEARN HOW TO PLAY THE GAME.

Keep quiet, that is not how Nigerian presidency is given
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by Nobody: 8:02am On Dec 31, 2020
ubola:
Well said, but let his party PDP give him nomination first, then the rest will be history.
That's another thing...if PDP refused to nominate him, please he can join any of this smaller party,we will support him. 2023 is about the people, party no matter again...
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by nsiba: 8:04am On Dec 31, 2020
post=97574291:


SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I have read the recent transmissions by Senator Bukola Saraki directed at my Igbo tribe. I have deliberately kept mum on this as I had earlier resolved to speak less on Igbos as regards the 2019 Elections and 2023 Presidency having said quite a bit. 

However seeing as some of my brethren have swallowed the cheap bait, I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. 

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. 

REWIND TO 2014. 
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. 

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. 

Now barely 5 months to another election, we have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023". "Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, who has only but a fanthom dream of becoming President and whose only known record is selfishness but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not even finished one and a half tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 

Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. 

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. I heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

I really don't care what Saraki writes or says because they've all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

I've learnt not to bother myself anymore to avoid unnecessary abuse from nonentities . As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it.

Ka Chineke mezie okwu. 


Go back sleep kiddo.
Too early to be yarning dust online.
What a young comedian! grin cheesy wink
.


What is good Governance?
When it comes for the time for NON Yoruba or Hausa/Fulani candidates you will be claiming "good governance, no zoning, merit."
2023 is for SE/SS and must be CHRISTIAN, if you don't have anything to say remain silent
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by MrRegret: 8:07am On Dec 31, 2020
Coronabirus:
If Nigerian allow these bigoted, prejudiced, tribalist, and dangerous sociocultural groups who always release inflammatory statements that doesn't fit their ages nor correlate with interest of their people without minding the consequences of their words then Nigeria will be in another cycle of uncertainty & doom years ahead.
I never take these selfish groups serious, who have records of hatred against one tribe or the other, who lost relevance in their constituencies and chose a dangerous platforms to always unleash threats to any leader who isn't from their tribe but romance & depend their sons irrespective of their incompetence all because of greed.

You are have spoken correctly like a true IDIOT U ARE.

Igbo should be given president, so that Nigerians can see them fail, and understand is not by tribe.


HUMANS GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED

PRAY For the kingdom of God to come or vote for God......
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by danilmo: 8:41am On Dec 31, 2020
Which one is join force again? lol. I'm a Yoruba and I can assure u afenifere has no political value in Yoruba. what we know is Tinubu or Osinbanjo in ballot.. wetin abi who knows Odumakin?? lol. mtchew afenifere that are PDP mole ..

I can see fahdiga already salivating. lol..

go to the grassroot level in SW and know how much support Tinubu led ApC fation command.
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by danilmo: 8:45am On Dec 31, 2020
Samson0599:
If they want to be fair,they should rally their support round a sincere Igbo man, personally I like Peter Obi, former Anambra State governor to be Nigeria's president,that is our Messiah right now,that is the kind of man that can cut the excesses of the government , build the economy, save for the country etc A presidency under Peter Obi won't tolerate borrowing and will never tolerate using bogus funds to execute small projects, besides he is sound,young,Hale and hearty, presentable, charismatic etc... Please all the igbos should throw support for this man.This is my own opinion..Nigerian must be great
Nb: Before some pipu start calling me ipob,I am a full fledged Yoruba guy

now that Peter obi is PDP he should go and get the ticket..

leave APC to run her politics with either BAT or Osinbanjo. so case is settled let's meet at the poll.
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by hisexcellency34: 8:55am On Dec 31, 2020
But Odumakin said if APC fields a candidate who is sincere about restructuring, they will support him

danilmo:
Which one is join force again? lol. I'm a Yoruba and I can assure u afenifere has no political value in Yoruba. what we know is Tinubu or Osinbanjo in ballot.. wetin abi who knows Odumakin?? lol. mtchew afenifere that are PDP mole ..

I can see fahdiga already salivating. lol..

go to the grassroot level in SW and know how much support Tinubu led ApC fation command.
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by danilmo: 9:14am On Dec 31, 2020
hisexcellency34:
But Odumakin said if APC fields a candidate who is sincere about restructuring, they will support him

na lie , he's only saying that to sound politically neutral.

and we all know odumakin has been anti Tinubu school of politics right from ages and tinubu doesn't care.. Tinubu has been winning them back to back.. an average Yoruba man doesn't know anybody called odumakin. can he deliver his pollbunit? not to talk of ward?? he is one of those PST Bakare referred to as shakabula leaders with no electoral value
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by danilmo: 9:16am On Dec 31, 2020
Samson0599:

That's another thing...if PDP refused to nominate him, please he can join any of this smaller party,we will support him. 2023 is about the people, party no matter again...
from ur 1st post to this one
I can boldly say u aren't a politician..
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by ronaldbecky(m): 9:38am On Dec 31, 2020
leadzeal:
Restructuring Nigeria is a gamble well worth taking. But what is the big deal if this present government actualize it. 2023 is far considering the fragile string still holding Nigeria as an entity.
yeah,U are right.this government in power had shows that,reconstructing,is not in their agenda so they are preparing for 2023 incase any thing should hapen...two yrs no far,that if Buhari go survive am
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by Latvin: 9:45am On Dec 31, 2020
Samson0599:

Bro,if the presidency is not handed to the Igbo and not just any Igbo man but Peter Obi,Then Nigeria is not fair to the igbos... Though I got your assertions up there but we don't need that right now, let the past be past .....we need a sound president,a business minded president, a president who can give analysis on economic terms.

Read that article with an open mind. The author dissected the issue in detail. Power is not given easily but taken. Politics is a game and you need strategies and actions to win. You can't deploy tactics that can't win you the game and turn round to blame game organisers for your loss.

Alliances with diverse groups (ethnic, religious, professional etc), bridge building, support for others and a whole lot more is required so a strong bargaining chip is built up. When you then push for the Presidency, it will be an easy ride as the hard work would have been done upfront. The writer said it may be too late but I think it is still a possibility if the hard work is put in now rather than these threats and blackmail that will get nowhere
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by Difrent: 9:51am On Dec 31, 2020
Logan23:


my father is a bastard zombie
Re: 2023 Presidency: Afenifere, Ohanaeze, ACF, Mid-Belt Forum, PANDEF Join Forces by ronaldbecky(m): 9:56am On Dec 31, 2020
[quote author=Isobug post=97575351]

You waisted such a time to write this just because of hate to a certain tribe..... This is terrible.
Anyway, You should just know that however a government is formed, it is for the people. The people here does not exclude any part or tribe, whether they were part of the formation of the party that produced the government or not or whether they like the government of the day or the president or not. It's their right to demand anything from the government or from the country. Be it Presidential seat or dividends. It is their right
[/quote..thanx for d reply...
That guy is an asslicker..a tribal bigot..

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