tsdarkside:


not true....china still has many poor people....

I know but China is more of a world leader than India.

obaaderemi:
This is absurd if it's true. Why would he support Muslims against Hindus? Clearly, he wanted India to remain as one, and you guys are lucky Pakistan refused to stay with India in 1947 at independence. I wonder how you would be coping with the Muslims now.

More than it being about Hindu vs Muslims, Gandhi was even seen as a British agent by his critics. He tried to recruit Indians to die for British in wars and sabotaged or halted every effective Indian movement againsy British and restricted Indian independence movement to a "peaceful" sit-in. He too pushed for British administration system, proposals and values to India which Indians otherwise wouldn't ever have accepted.

While British used to crush Indians, Gandhi was their favourite brown guy, often used to take him to dinners in Paris and London. He used to stay in a beautiful Bungalow in Delhi when Gandhi-haters used to feed homeless immigrants in streets.

Dividing India into smaller and weaker countries was a British requirement otherwise India would have emerged as another China or Soviet Union to challenge west at that time.

obaaderemi:
But I guess the main reason Indians and much of the world respect Ghandi so much is many, including my humble self, see him as leading the rebellion against British economic and political hegemony over India, then his lack of worldliness.

Well in general, I'm seen as a quite neutralist in political context.
Gandhi was anything but an anti-British rebel. He in fact was the one who prevented rebellions against British. He was all about perception than action but even his ways to persuade will sound stupid to a normal person.

You are free to prove me wrong by making any point from history. When did he rebelled against British?

Regards

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obaaderemi:
[s]This guy is truly insecure. How can this one call himself a male?

Anyway, I don't need to read your childish repetive monkey drivel, I just cancel them out. The screenshots below say it all:
One monkey 4 different monikers. Talking of joblessness.
I have released you to go but you seem to love your chains. Okay, suit yourself.

Obaboon, you couldn't even relax and enjoy the holidays? Man, relaaax, you are gonna get a heart attack. Find something to do with your time..................you are always talking of joblessness, at least get a job, maybe it'll help you stop all this projection.

PS.................the bolded word is repetitive Mr. Spellchecker. You are even losing the only thing you do.

NairobiWalker:

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Obaboon, you couldn't even relax and enjoy the holidays?

Oh, this monkey is still breathing. What holiday are you talking about, KiberaMonkey? The post you quoted was from 18th December last year. I can see you've not dropped your desperate behaviors.

NairobiWalker:


[s]Man, relaaax, you are gonna get a heart attack. Find something to do with your time..................you are always talking of joblessness, at least get a job, maybe it'll help you stop all this projection.

PS.................the bolded word is repetitive Mr. Spellchecker. You are even losing the only thing you do. [/s]

It's a brand new year and you are starting it the way you ended 2020. You will definitely end it the same way you ended 2020, in sorrow, penury and frustration unless you change. Henceforth, I cancel out your bullcrap. You belong to 2020.

Goel:

More than it being about Hindu vs Muslims, Gandhi was even seen as a British agent by his critics. He tried to recruit Indians to die for British in wars and sabotaged or halted every effective Indian movement againsy British and restricted Indian independence movement to a "peaceful" sit-in. He too pushed for British administration system, proposals and values to India which Indians otherwise wouldn't ever have accepted.

While British used to crush Indians, Gandhi was their favourite brown guy, often used to take him to dinners in Paris and London. He used to stay in a beautiful Bungalow in Delhi when Gandhi-haters used to feed homeless immigrants in streets.

Dividing India into smaller and weaker countries was a British requirement otherwise India would have emerged as another China or Soviet Union to challenge west at that time.

Well in general, I'm seen as a quite neutralist in political context.
Gandhi was anything but an anti-British rebel. He in fact was the one who prevented rebellions against British. He was all about perception than action but even his ways to persuade will sound stupid to a normal person.

You are free to prove me wrong by making any point from history. When did he rebelled against British?

Regards

What about his 240 mile march to the sea to collect salt in defiance to the british decree in 1930? Many believe that single move was critical to India's independence.

This thread still dey?

you can't please everyone overall I think Gandhi did more good than bad for India though a lot of his people won't admit it. The only thing I can agree when it comes to Gandhi is that he wasn't this peace and freedom for all advocate he has been touted to be. His early years in SA and support for the early form of apartheid says that much.

obaaderemi:
What about his 240 mile march to the sea to collect salt in defiance to the british decree in 1930? Many believe that single move was critical to India's independence.

ednited:

So where is the world fine?

Are you Tigray?

Enugupikin:
This thread still dey?

E dey o.

obaaderemi:
What about his 240 mile march to the sea to collect salt in defiance to the british decree in 1930? Many believe that single move was critical to India's independence.

As told before, "belief" by a selected group supporting INC can be anything. British prime minister Winston Churchill (who killed one third of Bengali population) called Gandhi "someone not to be even bothered about".

If you believe that an old man doing fast and making a fist of salt from saline water is more "critical" than Bhagat Singh and Lajpat Rai who killed a number of British officers and were most wanted criminals of British Raj, SC Bose who almost threw away British military from eastern India or Savarkar and British Indian soldiers who had planned a revolution like 1857 again to kill all Britons in India (reason why Brits didn't stay in India unlike South Africa), I can't help you.

This stupid propaganda is same as how tribal dance of Akambos helped Kenya to get freedom. These people are mostly supported by colonialists themselves (because they don't want revolutionaries to make government) or pro imperialist parties in the country. No matter which scholars and universities are paid to write nonsense again and again, nonsense is nonsense. If Gandhi's protests were anything, Brits would have left India in first boycott in 1922. They left India because of pressure of WW2 recession and rising anger in Indian revolutionaries not Gandhi.

obaaderemi:
Oh, this monkey is still breathing. What holiday are you talking about, KiberaMonkey? The post you quoted was from 18th December last year. I can see you've not dropped your desperate behaviors.
It's a brand new year and you are starting it the way you ended 2020. You will definitely end it the same way you ended 2020, in sorrow, penury and frustration unless you change. Henceforth, I cancel out your bullcrap. You belong to 2020.

That's old Obaboon........nothing origial. You've been doing it since you started getting pained with Kenyan issues. Find something new. You don't pick up anything from your fence sitting?

Goel:

As told before, "belief" by a selected group supporting INC can be anything. British prime minister Winston Churchill (who killed one third of Bengali population) called Gandhi "someone not to be even bothered about".

If you believe that an old man doing fast and making a fist of salt from saline water is more "critical" than Bhagat Singh and Lajpat Rai who killed a number of British officers and were most wanted criminals of British Raj, SC Bose who almost threw away British military from eastern India or Savarkar and British Indian soldiers who had planned a revolution like 1857 again to kill all Britons in India (reason why Brits didn't stay in India unlike South Africa), I can't help you.

This stupid propaganda is same as how tribal dance of Akambos helped Kenya to get freedom. These people are mostly supported by colonialists themselves (because they don't want revolutionaries to make government) or pro imperialist parties in the country. No matter which scholars and universities are paid to write nonsense again and again, nonsense is nonsense. If Gandhi's protests were anything, Brits would have left India in first boycott in 1922. They left India because of pressure of WW2 recession and rising anger in Indian revolutionaries not Gandhi.

Well, not every freedom fighter employs violence as a means.
It's like saying the Black Panthers are more influential than Martin Luther King in the civil right freedom clamour of black Americans.
But it's still believed that Ghandis subtle moves are very crucial to India's freedom despite his many shortcomings.

It's India anyway, and I respect your opinion and belief. Regards.

[s]

NairobiWalker:


That's old Obaboon........nothing origial. You've been doing it since you started getting pained with Kenyan issues. Find something new. You don't pick up anything from your fence sitting? [/s]

Kenyans and food!

Nigerian billionaire Aliko Dangote on Wednesday threw a belated New Year’s party for the residents of Kanziko in Kitui County,Kenya, where he will build a cement factory.
A number of goats were slaughtered as more than 2,000 locals were treated to a sumptuous lunch. This was after a public meeting at Kanziko market, where his younger brother, Mr Ado Dangote, briefed the residents about the project.

Nigeria can learn one or two things from India and China.

When most of India’s laws on farming were adopted, in
the 1950s and 1960s, the country was often on the
brink of famine. In 1966 mass starvation was averted
only by the arrival of 10m tonnes of American food aid

. Small
wonder that a Himalayan range of regulations rose up, to
boost output and stop hoarding.


Happily, much has changed since then. In 2020 India exported
14m tonnes of rice alone. The government has amassed grain
stores of around 50m tonnes.

Nigeria should be able to not only feed itself but influence the politics of food in West Africa at least. I remember a time when Nigeria was a haven to most of our neighbours like Ghana, Benin and Togo.

christology:
you can't please everyone overall I think Gandhi did more good than bad for India though a lot of his people won't admit it. The only thing I can agree when it comes to Gandhi is that he wasn't this peace and freedom for all advocate he has been touted to be. His early years in SA and support for the early form of apartheid says that much.

You are correct @ bolded.
But he remains India's biggest freedom fighter in history.

obaaderemi:
But it's still believed that Ghandis subtle moves are very crucial to India's freedom despite his many shortcomings.

It's India anyway, and I respect your opinion and belief. Regards.

Which of Gandhi's acts were ever directed against empire?

theMagnet:

Are you Tigray?

No, I am not Tigre. I am just an Ethiopian who is pissed off.

1. North
2,3,4 Lagos

Eko Atlantic

1 & 2 Lagos port

Goel:

Which of Gandhi's acts were ever directed against empire?

His march to the sea and his urging Indians to burn articles of clothing made in Britain.

QuietMynd:
1 & 2 Lagos port

Whoever took these photos deserve a carton of this:

ednited:


No, I am not Tigre. I am just an Ethiopian who is pissed off.

How's Ethiopia now? Hope your people didn't get caught up in the crisis. Your president is confusing. Isn't that the dude who was awarded a Nobel prize for Peace?

I remember Samorobo and I telling the Kenyans that oil would hit $50 and above. Rvp was scoffing then. Now, its $60. It will affect their economy seriously.
But Nigeria has learnt its lesson: Oil and other commodities are not stuff to depend on!

This should put some sense in the heads of Kenyans too: Tea prices, their major export continues to fall.

Kenyans and their nonsense...

Herdsmen's menace in Kenya, just like Nigeria.

Southern Nigerians must learn from this Kenyan story. Having herdsmen in ranches close to farmers can never work! Nomadic herdsmen will always roam.

KENYA
The battle for Laikipia
Nomadic herders have violently seized land from ranchers in
central Kenya. Daniel Knowles investigates the roots of the
conflict.

But at the same time, one feels a bit sorry for the herdsmen. Without grass, they're gone. Listen to what this Kenyan herdsman has to say:

At Archer’s Post, Ronte Lemarapa is also struggling to protect
his assets. “We cannot allow cows to die when there is grass
right there. It is always better to fight than to let cows die.”

https://www.economist.com/1843/2017/07/05/the-battle-for-laikipia

Kenyan Samburu Herdsman:

obaaderemi:
How's Ethiopia now? Hope your people didn't get caught up in the crisis. Your president is confusing. Isn't that the dude who was awarded a Nobel prize for Peace?

Well, we know nothing. Everyone keeps throwing opposite assumptions . .

Kazikazi, condolences for the death of Magufuli, your President.

I don't know what's going on with the hungry little Indians these days, but I hope they're not stvpid enough to make fun of a dead man.

ednited:


Well, we know nothing. Everyone keeps throwing opposite assumptions . .

Just keep safe, baby. The world is a mad place.