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Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Mightyify(m): 7:41pm On Jan 26, 2021
I have a kia cerato, This morning when I wanted to go to work... I started the car then put it on reverse. The car shakes as if it's struggling to move then goes off. It starts well but goes anytime I put it in drive or reverse it moves within 5 secs then goes off. My mechanic seems to be confuse about the problem.
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by solmusdesigns: 8:07pm On Jan 26, 2021
Can they increase the slow running of the engine

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Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Mightyify(m): 9:44pm On Jan 26, 2021
They did....it is still happening.
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by homeboy205: 10:07pm On Jan 26, 2021
Mightyify:
I have a kia cerato, This morning when I wanted to go to work... I started the car then put it on reverse. The car shakes as if it's struggling to move then goes off. It starts well but goes anytime I put it in drive or reverse it moves within 5 secs then goes off. My mechanic seems to be confuse about the problem.


At least scan
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Kashif(m): 6:05am On Jan 27, 2021
Mightyify:
I have a kia cerato, This morning when I wanted to go to work... I started the car then put it on reverse. The car shakes as if it's struggling to move then goes off. It starts well but goes anytime I put it in drive or reverse it moves within 5 secs then goes off. My mechanic seems to be confuse about the problem.

Very likely your torque converter lockup is stuck on.

Push the car to a forward slope. Start the car in neutral and let it start moving under gravity before engaging drive. If the engine doesn't die afterwards, it's the torque converter. A double confirmation is if the engine also dies after you bring the car to a full stop while still in drive.

Good luck!

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Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Blackbishop(m): 1:27pm On Jan 27, 2021
Run a scan
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Mightyify(m): 4:36pm On Jan 27, 2021
I did scan today.... it brought out error code P0707 - Transmission Range Switch Low Input. Can anyone explain better?
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Mightyify(m): 4:37pm On Jan 27, 2021
Kashif:


Very likely your torque converter lockup is stuck on.

Push the car to a forward slope. Start the car in neutral and let it start moving under gravity before engaging drive. If the engine doesn't die afterwards, it's the torque converter. A double confirmation is if the engine also dies after you bring the car to a full stop while still in drive.

Good luck!

it's automatic transmission
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Kashif(m): 6:33pm On Jan 27, 2021
Mightyify:


it's automatic transmission

I know - manual transmissions don't use torque converter. You know you can push automatics in neutral....

But since you scanner points to range sensor, your mechanic should know what to do. But RS killing engine in gear sounds kinda strange though.

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Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Mightyify(m): 8:31pm On Jan 27, 2021
I don't really get this scanning, I did another scann it pointed at transmission module control. The guy that scanned the car said it's gear problem. I wish I can see anyone who has suffered the same issue.
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by MOTIONTECH(m): 9:39pm On Jan 27, 2021
I will a proper diagnosis for you @ the cost of 20k.
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by MOTIONTECH(m): 9:40pm On Jan 27, 2021
BTW what year us your cerato sir.
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by smartistics(m): 11:46pm On Jan 27, 2021
I guess you mean idle speed.
solmusdesigns:
Can they increase the slow running of the engine
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by dicksonadams(m): 12:26am On Jan 28, 2021
Mightyify:
I did scan today.... it brought out error code P0707 - Transmission Range Switch Low Input. Can anyone explain better?
Look for either of these 3 gurus here, gazzuzz, autologic and kingreign... Thank me later

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Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Mightyify(m): 2:48pm On Jan 30, 2021
Hello gazzuzz, autologic and kingreign abeg make una help my situation
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by GAZZUZZ(m): 4:12pm On Jan 30, 2021
Kashif:


Very likely your torque converter lockup is stuck on.

Push the car to a forward slope. Start the car in neutral and let it start moving under gravity before engaging drive. If the engine doesn't die afterwards, it's the torque converter. A double confirmation is if the engine also dies after you bring the car to a full stop while still in drive.

Good luck!

Mightyify:
Hello gazzuzz, autologic and kingreign abeg make una help my situation
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by alphaNomega: 6:11pm On Jan 30, 2021
I can bet Mightyify uses 20w-50 for this car

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Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Mightyify(m): 2:16am On Jan 31, 2021
alphaNomega:
I can bet Mightyify uses 20w-50 for this car

20w-50 of what sir?

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Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Mightyify(m): 2:17am On Jan 31, 2021
GAZZUZZ:



yes the engine dies on drive before I bring the car to a stop
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Mightyify(m): 11:40am On Feb 04, 2021
I have changed the converter... the engine still dies anytime I put drive or reverse.


cc

gazzuzz, autologic and kingreign, kashif
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Louiscarz(m): 2:49pm On Feb 04, 2021
the code your vehicle is giving might be caused by faulty park and neutral position switch ,park and neutral switch harness is open.
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Mightyify(m): 7:59pm On Feb 04, 2021
Louiscarz:
the code your vehicle is giving might be caused by faulty park and neutral position switch ,park and neutral switch harness is open.

what should I do please?
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Louiscarz(m): 8:52pm On Feb 04, 2021
first thing is to check transmission fluid if OK, then check the park and neutral switch and transmission position sensor if any of it wire harness is having a short circuit or open circuit, your transmission position sensor might be bad you can check that also, your park and neutral switch might also be the culprit.
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Louiscarz(m): 8:56pm On Feb 04, 2021
another funny thing might be a poor electrical connection
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by myhero: 1:40pm On Feb 06, 2021
I have had similar experience on my Toyota sienna 2010 model. How I resolved it might sound funny and unbelievable, one electrician told me it's a fuse cut issue. I laughed at him because I have done so many things to fix it even scanning codes.. After a week of trying, I went to that electrician that said it's a fuse cut and told him to try, before my very own eyes, he removed just one tiny fuse and run small wire on it and my car becomes OK till now

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Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Louiscarz(m): 9:22am On Feb 07, 2021
@mightify as the issue been resolved
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Kashif(m): 1:49pm On Feb 07, 2021
Mightyify:


yes the engine dies on drive before I bring the car to a stop

If this is correct, then it's not the torque converter lockup. The engine should only die when the car comes to a stop. The way it works is that the TC acts like a (wet) clutch between the engine and the gear. At lockup, the TC mechanically locks the engine and the gear, just like a manual gear will do without the driver operating the clutch.

Don't you have good mechanics where you stay?
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Mightyify(m): 3:40pm On Feb 07, 2021
Kashif:


If this is correct, then it's not the torque converter lockup. The engine should only die when the car comes to a stop. The way it works is that the TC acts like a (wet) clutch between the engine and the gear. At lockup, the TC mechanically locks the engine and the gear, just like a manual gear will do without the driver operating the clutch.

Don't you have good mechanics where you stay?

I'm in Abuja.... I have spent 40k already still didn't fix it. I bought converter 25k, paid the mechanic the that brought down the girl 10k and other expenses. Right now my car is misfiring after changing the converter.

My mind is telling me it's the starter switch because that was what the error code P0707 showed but people here and outside said it cant cause such. I will go next week to buy it and fix if it doesn't work... I don't know what else to do.
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Kashif(m): 3:59pm On Feb 07, 2021
Mightyify:


I'm in Abuja.... I have spent 40k already still didn't fix it. I bought converter 25k, paid the mechanic the that brought down the girl 10k and other expenses. Right now my car is misfiring after changing the converter.

My mind is telling me it's the starter switch because that was what the error code P0707 showed but people here and outside said it cant cause such. I will go next week to buy it and fix if it doesn't work... I don't know what else to do.

Oh sugar! What an ordeal!

If you carried out the test I outlined, you would have ruled out lockup issue, and avoid changing the TC. But assuming the lockup was the issue (which I'm seeing its not), replacing the TC alone may not be enough if it is responding to hydraulics.

At this point, live data is more important than error code. There are technical Cartalk members in Abuja. I advise you reach out to them.

Just hang in there!
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Mightyify(m): 4:16pm On Feb 07, 2021
Kashif:


Oh sugar! What an ordeal!

If you carried out the test I outlined, you would have ruled out lockup issue, and avoid changing the TC. But assuming the lockup was the issue (which I'm seeing its not), replacing the TC alone may not be enough if it is responding to hydraulics.

At this point, live data is more important than error code. There are technical Cartalk members in Abuja. I advise you reach out to them.

Just hang in there!

Once I on the car, it steams very well, it'll move if I load drive and accelerate immediately. Once It moves, it'll move until I slow down or almost stopping then it goes off. But reverse is worse it goes off whether I accelerate immediately or not. Honestly I have suffered... The problem is strange to everyone including my mechanic. He advised I change the whole gear box and that cost around 120k...I'm not buoyant for that now.

Not to think of the fear of buying gear box and the problem persist.
Re: Help! My Car Goes Off When I Put In Drive Or Reverse. by Kashif(m): 6:21pm On Feb 07, 2021
Mightyify:


Once I on the car, it steams very well, it'll move if I load drive and accelerate immediately. Once It moves, it'll move until I slow down or almost stopping then it goes off. But reverse is worse it goes off whether I accelerate immediately or not. Honestly I have suffered... The problem is strange to everyone including my mechanic. He advised I change the whole gear box and that cost around 120k...I'm not buoyant for that now.

Not to think of the fear of buying gear box and the problem persist.

Okay. Your initial report was a bit confusing. The TC lockup is looking more like it, pending confirmation.

Your mechanic will need a capable scanner that can view your transmission live data in order to see if its the computer commanding the lockup, or if its hydraulic.

Since you said the reverse is more intolerant (reverses are more aggressive though), you will need to raise the two front wheels off the ground before further diagnosis. Lockups are not commanded in reverse.

With the engine idling, let him check for lockup status in the live data. It should be "OFF" or "0". If otherwise, go no further; concentrate on the computer. If the status is normal, engage reverse and confirm the wheels spin freely in reverse. Failure to spin rules out the lockup. While (and if) they're spinning, check the lockup status again. If the status goes to "ON" or "1" , something is causing the computer to command lockup when it shouldn't. It could be external to the computer, or the computer itself is faulty.

Perform this check in drive too, but ensure the wheels are stopped before selecting D. While viewing the live data, your mechanic should pay attention to the vehicle speed reading and gear range being picked.

If the computer checks out, then it means the failure is likely hydraulic - your lockup relay valve, or some other member of the team is stuck. In all these, using the brakes to stop the spinning wheels while in gear should kill the engine while in gear, if it's the lockup.

If it's hydraulic, you'll need to replace gear, or find a competent tech who can service your valve body.

Good luck!

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