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Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Sammy07: 9:46am On Jan 27, 2021
I have noticed the word Ubangiji is almost (if not) going into extinction.

Hausa word for God is Ubangiji. Even google self made mistake.

Reason behind them using Allah, I don't know when Allah Is purely an Arabic word.


Ubangiji means the Supreme Being.
Sariki n Salama means Prince of Peace.
Ubanjidi n Dunia means Master of the World.
Mai Taimako means the Helper.
Ruhun Hikima means Spirit of Wisdom.
Allah Mai Iko means Powerful God.
Allah Mai Girma means Great God.
Tushen Rai means the author of Life.
Uba Madu Kaki means the Father of Glory
Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.legit.ng/amp/1184912-names-god-hausa-language-meanings.html

Any northerner here to explain why Ubangiji and Allah are used as a substitute above?

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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by triple996(m): 9:50am On Jan 27, 2021
Google knows nothing
Ubangiji is the right word bt Allah is also used though gotten 4rm arabic

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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by BusinessCity: 9:51am On Jan 27, 2021
To confuse naive people


Ubangiji is God and not Allah. Allah is a creation of man to follow a strange set of ungodly rules contrary to God.


If people delve deep into the origin of the word Allah, you'll be shocked to see its root deep in Baal, pro-government time idol King. Ba-al which was wrongly asserted as a straightforward word Baal.

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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Sammy07: 9:53am On Jan 27, 2021
triple996:
Google knows nothing
Ubangiji is the right word bt Allah is also used though gotten 4rm arabic

Just like Igbos / Yoruba substituting Chineke / Olorun for Yahweh / Jehovah in our sayings / sentences and words

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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Sammy07: 9:55am On Jan 27, 2021
BusinessCity:
To confuse naive people


Ubangiji is God and not Allah. Allah is a creation of man to follow a strange set of ungodly rules contrary to God.


If people delve deep into the origin of the word Allah, you'll be shocked to see its root deep in Baal, pro-government time idol King. Ba-al which was wrongly asserted as a straightforward word Baal.

I think you're wrong in your last sentence.
Allah is an Arabic word for God as
Olorun is a Yoruba word for God

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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Nobody: 9:56am On Jan 27, 2021
More helpful to northern christians Bible God isn't allah (aka Baal)

Even Muslims sef fail to understand their supposed god never introduced itself as allah.

It was Mohamed whom connoted the name allah for it after his so many encounters with the quresh tribe that worshipped baal

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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by BusinessCity: 9:57am On Jan 27, 2021
Sammy07:


I think you're wrong in your last sentence.
Allah is an Arabic word for God as
Olorun is a Yoruba word for God



That's easy to say. Do you know the term Ba and the other Al has been used by Arabians for over 4000 years to ascribe different deities and gods?


My dear, Arabs brought things people who didn't question it's root accepted. Period. 9 out of 10 of such faithful never knew beyond Allah is God in Arabic which is what was dished.



All ancient Arabic gods that was served in place of God was termed " the Lord " aka ba'al aka Allah to proof superior to other faiths which y'all do not know until today your day of being educated.. That's the origin of the term, Allah



My dear Allah isn't god but a man made idol

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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Sammy07: 10:00am On Jan 27, 2021
BusinessCity:




That's easy to say. Do you know the term Ba and the other Al has been used by Arabians for over 4000 years to ascribe different deities and gods?


My dear, Arabs brought things people who didn't question it's root accepted. Period. 9 out of 10 of such faithful never knew beyond Allah is God in Arabic which is what was dished.



All ancient Arabic gods that was served in place of God pro-government erase was termed " the Lord " aka ba'al aka Allah which y'all do not know until today your day of being educated



My dear Allah isn't god but a man made idol

Well, let's leave that aside and focus on the subject fess
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by yorubarere: 10:01am On Jan 27, 2021
Sammy07:


Just like Igbos / Yoruba substituting Chineke / Olorun for Yahweh / Jehovah in our sayings / sentences and words

Yoruba still use Olorun/Oluwa very well
Igbo still use Chineke

Hausa lost their identities to Arabian culture transmitted to them by Fulani. Fulani conquered them eternally.

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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by BusinessCity: 10:04am On Jan 27, 2021
Sammy07:


Well, let's leave that aside and focus on the subject fess


Ubangiji is God in hausa

It was in the midst of ancient struggles for who's God was the real God or supreme the name Allah came from because they wanted to prove that " the Lord ", they chose was God.


This settles matters


Enjoy.


I'm up to take up anyone that can go back 4000 years in human history to break it down with me.


It's funny how humans choose a deity to serve without extensive and deep introspection and questioning

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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Nobody: 10:07am On Jan 27, 2021
Sammy07:


Well, let's leave that aside and focus on the subject fess
That guy is so englighted, it is actually the Crux of the matter that the word allah doesn't translate to God except you mean "god".

So if hausas what to refer to Ugbagiji the supreme God just like yorubas would say olorun, you can't even compare a pagan baal just like olurun is different from sango

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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by CodeTemplar: 10:09am On Jan 27, 2021
Please as you explain that can someone also explain why the region that feeds the nation is the hunger capital of the nation?
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by MadamExcellency: 10:12am On Jan 27, 2021
Sammy07:


Just like Igbos / Yoruba substituting Chineke / Olorun for Yahweh / Jehovah in our sayings / sentences and words


Igbos are not substituting anything in place of God. 85% of Igbo names start with Chi meaning Chineke.

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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by triple996(m): 10:14am On Jan 27, 2021
BusinessCity:
To confuse naive people


Ubangiji is God and not Allah. Allah is a creation of man to follow a strange set of ungodly rules contrary to God.


If people delve deep into the origin of the word Allah, you'll be shocked to see its root deep in Baal, pro-government time idol King. Ba-al which was wrongly asserted as a straightforward word Baal.

Where did you get these crab you are typing. Allah means the supreme being in arabic.the one that create everything,the Lord of the world's(both mankind and jin) that Baal you are talking about might be the idol the others worship according to you.bt y will the prophet Mohammed preach to them to change thier religion if they are both worshipping the same God. That Baal is an idol worshiped by pegans.allah on the other side is not an idol infact no one have seen him eye to eye. Christians call him Jehovah. Muslims and Christians only differ on the position of Jesus and Mohammed himself.so please don't mistaken Allah 4 anything someone dugup 4 u. The quraish worship more than 300 idols during their time. Mohammed destroyed all of them.and encourage them to worship Allah. Thier is no way Baal will be worshiped by quraish and still be referred to as Allah which completely opposes it. please don't believe anything you read on d internet

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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by LadySarah: 10:16am On Jan 27, 2021
Sammy07:


Just like Igbos / Yoruba substituting Chineke / Olorun for Yahweh / Jehovah in our sayings / sentences and words


Ppl just talking anyhow. Apart from Jehovah witnessess calling Jehovah and reading the Bible, which Igbo person calls God Jehovah?

It is Chukwu, Chineke or nothing.

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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Sammy07: 10:19am On Jan 27, 2021
MadamExcellency:


Igbos are not substituting anything in place of God. 85% of Igbo names start with Chi meaning Chineke.
LadySarah:


Ppl just talking anyhow. Apart from Jehovah witnessess calling Jehovah and reading the Bible, which Igbo person calls God Jehovah?

It is Chukwu, Chineke or nothing.

You guys need to improve on your reading comprehension and understanding
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by BusinessCity: 10:20am On Jan 27, 2021
triple996:


Where did you get these crab you are typing. Allah means the supreme being in arabic.the one that create everything,the Lord of the world's(both mankind and jin) that Baal you are talking about might be the idol the others worship according to you.bt y will the prophet Mohammed preach to them to change thier religion if they are both worshipping the same God. That Baal is an idol worshiped by pegans.allah on the other side is not an idol infact one have seen him eye to eye. Christians call him Jehovah. Muslims and Christians only differ on the position of Jesus and Mohammed himself.so please don't mistaken Allah 4 anything someone dugup 4 u



Emotional rant


I gave you 4000 years of mankind history your clerics don't even know


Go do your deep research through non religious studies. You'll find your answers there

Bye

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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Nobody: 10:21am On Jan 27, 2021
CodeTemplar:
Please as you explain that can someone also explain why the region that feeds the nation is the hunger capital of the nation?
The bulk of foods in the "north" is coming from benue, plateau, kogi which are basically middle belt states

There is literally no hunger capital in these areas so you can't find indegenes children of these states carrying plates to beg.

But if you go to the core hunger capital states which is north east, north west you can find indegenes children with plates begging for leftovers from dustbin.

In conclusion when they claim North is the one feeding the nation we know the exact productive states

We also know the states that is hunger capital which can't even feed their children.

The statement is a contradiction and if you remove the attachee by force called "north" those feeding and those hungry stand out

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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Pierocash(m): 10:21am On Jan 27, 2021
BusinessCity:




That's easy to say. Do you know the term Ba and the other Al has been used by Arabians for over 4000 years to ascribe different deities and gods?


My dear, Arabs brought things people who didn't question it's root accepted. Period. 9 out of 10 of such faithful never knew beyond Allah is God in Arabic which is what was dished.



All ancient Arabic gods that was served in place of God pro-government erase was termed " the Lord " aka ba'al aka Allah which y'all do not know until today your day of being educated



My dear Allah isn't god but a man made idol
M
BusinessCity:




That's easy to say. Do you know the term Ba and the other Al has been used by Arabians for over 4000 years to ascribe different deities and gods?


My dear, Arabs brought things people who didn't question it's root accepted. Period. 9 out of 10 of such faithful never knew beyond Allah is God in Arabic which is what was dished.



All ancient Arabic gods that was served in place of God pro-government erase was termed " the Lord " aka ba'al aka Allah which y'all do not know until today your day of being educated



My dear Allah isn't god but a man made idol
ikecold post=98485439:

That guy is so englighted, it is actually the Crux of the matter that the word allah doesn't translate to God except you mean "god".

So if hausas what to refer to Ugbagiji the supreme God just like yorubas would say olorun, you can't even compare a pagan baal just like olurun is different from sango
I disagree with you. The word Allah is the Arabic name for God, ubangiji is Hausa. Hausas tends to adopt Arabic more ,that is why the word Allah is predominantly been used by them ,that doesn't make Allah less the meaning in Arabic.
Christianity. Arabic-speakers of all Abrahamic faiths, including Christians and Jews, use the word "Allah" to mean "God". The Christian Arabs of today have no other word for "God" than "Allah". Similarly, the Aramaic word for "God" in the language of Assyrian Christians is ʼĔlāhā, or Alaha,which also is same as Allah in Arabic . stop misinforming people.

The Arabic bible also translated God as Allah.

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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by BusinessCity: 10:22am On Jan 27, 2021
Pierocash:
ikecold post=98485439]That guy is so englighted, it is actually the Crux of the matter that the word allah doesn't translate to God except you mean "god".

So if hausas what to refer to Ugbagiji the supreme God just like yorubas would say olorun, you can't even compare a pagan baal just like olurun is different from sangoI disagree with you. The word Allah is the Arabic name for God, ubangiji is Hausa. Hausas tends to adopt Arabic more ,that is why the word Allah is predominantly been used by them ,that doesn't make Allah less the meaning in Arabic.
Christianity. Arabic-speakers of all Abrahamic faiths, including Christians and Jews, use the word "Allah" to mean "God". The Christian Arabs of today have no other word for "God" than "Allah". Similarly, the Aramaic word for "God" in the language of Assyrian Christians is ʼĔlāhā, or Alaha,which also is same as Allah in Arabic . stop misinforming people.

The Arabic bible also translated God as Allah.



As usual what was I saying what are you saying.


Check if I spoke any differently. I asked you what was the origins of the Arabic Allah. Simple as ABC. I served you 4000 years of covered up knowledge you should be thanking me for.
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by triple996(m): 10:26am On Jan 27, 2021
BusinessCity:




Emotional rant


I gave you 4000 years of mankind history your clerics don't even know


Go do your deep research through non religious studies. You'll find your answers there

Bye

Thank you very much
And am telling you those so called 4000 years of mankind history (according to you) are just crumb lies made up to discredit an entire religion.bros these tactics of rubbishing relion didn't start today and it won't end as well.
Besides you deviated from the main topic which is hausa word for GOD into arguing about origin of allah.there are countless trend for that on these nairaland.these is not one of them though

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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by BusinessCity: 10:27am On Jan 27, 2021
triple996:


Thank you very much
And am telling you those so called 4000 years of mankind history (according to you) are just crumb lies made up to discredit an entire religion.bros these tactics of rubbishing relion didn't start today and it won't end as well.
Besides you deviated from the main topic which is hausa word for GOD into arguing about origin of allah.there are countless trend for that on these nairaland.these is not one of them though



Emotional responses


Go do your digging. I don't do mud slinging. I never do
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Nobody: 10:30am On Jan 27, 2021
triple996:


Where did you get these crab you are typing. Allah means the supreme being in arabic.the one that create everything,the Lord of the world's(both mankind and jin) that Baal you are talking about might be the idol the others worship according to you.bt y will the prophet Mohammed preach to them to change thier religion if they are both worshipping the same God. That Baal is an idol worshiped by pegans.allah on the other side is not an idol infact no one have seen him eye to eye. Christians call him Jehovah. Muslims and Christians only differ on the position of Jesus and Mohammed himself.so please don't mistaken Allah 4 anything someone dugup 4 u. The quraish worship more than 300 idols during their time. Mohammed destroyed all of them.and encourage them to worship Allah. Thier is no way Baal will be worshiped by quraish and still be referred to as Allah which completely opposes it. please don't believe anything you read on d internet
Abdul you have history knowledge to an extent even though it's limited.

First of all, this God never told anyone his name is expressly Allah, unlike the God of Moses who expressly said his name is Jehovah.

If Allah is just a mere Arabic word for supreme God what stops Hausa Muslims from calling their God Ugbagiji which is the same meaning as Allah in arabic, same thing with Olorun from Yoruba Muslims etc.

What's the big deal about using Arabic translation since this God never called himself this?

If God is omnipresent and all knowing he wouldn't be bounded by a specific language.

As you said Muhammad had several dealings with the quresh tribe it's on record he was a man who formulated/fused anything just to get support including telling Jews/Christian's he believed they worshipped the true God except that he must be worshipped by his description (a religion that existed thousands of years before him)

He didn't destroy the quresh pagan gods he only tried unifying them into one because they were too many.

Quresh tribe worshipped so many idols and baal worshippers were in majority (Baal was oldest having been in ancient Mesopotamia)

Mohamed destroyed hundreds of idols except three which includes Baal and the three goddess.

He said these three goddess are intersesors to God and he bowed and worshiped them including the whole quresh tribe who felt honoured and exited to have unified goddesses (Mohamed trying to copy Christianity Trinity as usual)

Baal was still very much in the current kabba site, Mohamed didn't destroy it and the Quresh tribe used to go there and circle the altar of Baal and kiss it's altar for fertility, part of this ritual was they always circled it naked.

Mohamed later came to apologise that he was tricked by the devil and that the three goddess were never intersesors to God (this was after his borrowed interpretation of one God yet three could not be substantiated ).

So he destroyed the three altars of the goddess, came to the altar of baal, chased the quresh worshippers and called that altar the house of god (notice that where-ever is considered sacred to the people around him he fabricates a story on his connection to the place i.e the temple mount in Jerusalem).

Mohamed essentially evicted the quresh tribe from the kaabah for polluting the house with unclothedness, he fabricated a story on how Abraham and his son had been there before (mind you Abraham only sojourn was leaving his father's house in U'r to Cannan and never at anytime went to the Arabian deserts for anything)

Mohamed erected on the altar of baal and proclaimed it the "house" of allah his new one god, he retained the quresh ritual of cycling/kissing the altar aka "house of allah".


Today that same ancient Baal is now Allah the same altar of Baal the Qureshi idol which is forced down African, middle eastern Muslims throat


They can't ask simple questions like what concerns a supreme omnipresent God with a stone altar before forgiveness and intersection is made.

They can't ask the significance of kissing a specific black stone a mere creation of God to an omnipresent God

They can't ask why Muslims are patterned to address an omnipresent God in the limited language, practice of the arabs

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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by triple996(m): 10:34am On Jan 27, 2021
Mikecold:
The bulk of foods in the "north" is coming from benue, plateau, kogi which are basically middle belt states

There is literally no hunger capital in these areas so you can't find indegenes children of these states carrying plates to beg.

But if you go to the core hunger capital states which is north east, north west you can find indegenes children with plates begging for leftovers from dustbin.

In conclusion when they claim North is the one feeding the nation we know the exact productive states

We also know the states that is hunger capital which can't even feed their children.

The statement is a contradiction and if you remove the attachee by force called "north" those feeding and those hungry stand out

Please stop deviating from the topic and going into other things like hunger capital and core north. It seems you don't know that north and arabic are two different things. Core north(arewa) is a region with slightly more that a 100m people.arabic is a language used by multiple countries. The thrend is about hausa word 4 GOD so please try to stick to it .leave almajiri out of it
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by triple996(m): 10:35am On Jan 27, 2021
Mikecold:
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Stop booking space na grin grin grin nobody is competing with you
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by VictorUSA(m): 11:06am On Jan 27, 2021
We're learning alot here
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Samunique(m): 11:28am On Jan 27, 2021
yorubarere:

Yoruba still use Olorun/Oluwa very well
Igbo still use Chineke

Hausa lost their identities to Arabian culture transmitted to them by Fulani. Fulani conquered them eternally.
You're right !
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by yorubarere: 11:37am On Jan 27, 2021
Samunique:
You're right !
I hope Hausa can rise one day and take their rightful place in the scheme of things.
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Federalcase(m): 12:30pm On Jan 27, 2021
Sammy07:
I have noticed the word Ubangiji is almost (if not) going into extinction.

Hausa word for God is Ubangiji. Even google self made mistake.

Reason behind them using Allah, I don't know when Allah Is purely an Arabic word.



Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.legit.ng/amp/1184912-names-god-hausa-language-meanings.html

Any northerner here to explain why Ubangiji and Allah are used as a substitute above?
forget google they don't know what is going on in hausa land

Allah means God in arabic but it's tagged as a borrow language in hausa land. It's not only Allah that hausa borrowed from arabic there are many other words. The way i know it, most hausa that are muslim prefer to use Allah while the christian hausa mostly use ubangiji but majority of hausa are muslims that's why people think that allah is hausa words but it's not.
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Sammy07: 12:34pm On Jan 27, 2021
Federalcase:
forget google they don't know what is going on in hausa land

Allah means God in arabic but it's tagged as a borrow language in hausa land. It's not only Allah that hausa borrowed from arabic there are many other words. The way i know it, most hausa that are muslim prefer to use Allah while the christian hausa mostly use ubangiji but majority of hausa are muslims that's why people think that allah is hausa words but it's not.

Gbam!

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