Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by tamdun: 12:44pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
Mikecold: More helpful to northern christians Bible God isn't allah (aka Baal)
Even Muslims sef fail to understand their supposed god never introduced itself as allah.
It was Mohamed whom connoted the name allah for it after his so many encounters with the quresh tribe that worshipped baal Continue with the lie, well done |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Hisduchess(f): 12:45pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by tamdun: 12:47pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
BusinessCity:
Emotional rant
I gave you 4000 years of mankind history your clerics don't even know
Go do your deep research through non religious studies. You'll find your answers there
Bye Baal does not translate to God in Arab, do more research 1 Like |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Shimran(m): 12:48pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
Sammy07: I have noticed the word Ubangiji is almost (if not) going into extinction.
Hausa word for God is Ubangiji. Even google self made mistake.
Reason behind them using Allah, I don't know when Allah Is purely an Arabic word.
Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.legit.ng/amp/1184912-names-god-hausa-language-meanings.html
Any northerner here to explain why Ubangiji and Allah are used as a substitute above? Ubangiji (Male) Uwargiji (Female) Whereas their translation means Lord' in English. Its known whether in English or Hausa, the above words (lord, uwargiji and ubangiji) can be referred to God, human, male or female and is countable noun( I.e has plural form) To cut it short majority of Hausa are Muslims. 'ALLAH' can neither be plurarised nor be referred to female sex, and is mainly referred to as the only one God, no any other form of comparative. As SHIRK (associating other things with God is the biggest sin in islam) Reason the Hausa's prefer the word Allah to God, to go against association of partner to him. Thank you 2 Likes |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by triple996(m): 12:54pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
Shimran:
Ubangiji (Male)
Uwargiji (Female)
Whereas their translation means Lord' in English. Its known whether in English or Hausa, the above words (lord, uwargiji and ubangiji) can be referred to God, human, male or female and is countable noun( I.e has plural form)
To cut it short majority of Hausa are Muslims. 'ALLAH' can neither be plurarised nor be referred to female sex, and is mainly referred to as the only one God, no any other form of comparative. As SHIRK (associating other things with God is the biggest sin in islam)
Reason the Hausa's prefer the word Allah to God, to go against association of partner to him.
Thank you Best comment of these thrend so far One bottle of cold stout 4 u jare 2 Likes |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Sammy07: 1:01pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
Shimran:
Ubangiji (Male)
Uwargiji (Female)
Whereas their translation means Lord' in English. Its known whether in English or Hausa, the above words (lord, uwargiji and ubangiji) can be referred to God, human, male or female and is countable noun( I.e has plural form)
To cut it short majority of Hausa are Muslims. 'ALLAH' can neither be plurarised nor be referred to female sex, and is mainly referred to as the only one God, no any other form of comparative. As SHIRK (associating other things with God is the biggest sin in islam)
Reason the Hausa's prefer the word Allah to God, to go against association of partner to him.
Thank you Thanks for the explaination 3 Likes |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by BusinessCity: 1:03pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Prosperchuks1344(m): 1:17pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
yorubarere:
Yoruba still use Olorun/Oluwa very well Igbo still use Chineke
Hausa lost their identities to Arabian culture transmitted to them by Fulani. Fulani conquered them eternally. I understand that Olorun/Oluwa means God, but is there any other meaning attached to it? I just wanna know... For example.... Igbos call God Chukwu and Chineke... Chukwu/Chi-ukwu meaning Big God... Chineke/Chukwuokike meaning God the Creator... 1 Like |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by yorubarere: 1:32pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
Prosperchuks1344:
I understand that Olorun/Oluwa means God, but is there any other meaning attached to it? I just wanna know...
For example....
Igbos call God Chukwu and Chineke...
Chukwu/Chi-ukwu meaning Big God... Chineke/Chukwuokike meaning God the Creator... Olorun.... Someone who owns the Skye. Oluwa.... Someone who owns everything. 1 Like |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by BabbanBura(m): 1:40pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Samunique(m): 2:03pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
yorubarere:
I hope Hausa can rise one day and take their rightful place in the scheme of things. For where? Water Don pass garri for them !!! |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Prosperchuks1344(m): 2:12pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
yorubarere:
Olorun.... Someone who owns the Skye.
Oluwa.... Someone who owns everything.
ok thanks.. |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Prosperchuks1344(m): 2:12pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
yorubarere:
Olorun.... Someone who owns the Skye.
Oluwa.... Someone who owns everything.
ok thanks.. |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by kilonshele101(m): 2:27pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
Mikecold: Abdul you have history knowledge to an extent even though it's limited.
First of all, this God never told anyone his name is expressly Allah, unlike the God of Moses who expressly said his name is Jehovah.
If Allah is just a mere Arabic word for supreme God what stops Hausa Muslims from calling their God Ugbagiji which is the same meaning as Allah in arabic, same thing with Olorun from Yoruba Muslims etc.
What's the big deal about using Arabic translation since this God never called himself this?
If God is omnipresent and all knowing he wouldn't be bounded by a specific language.
As you said Muhammad had several dealings with the quresh tribe it's on record he was a man who formulated/fused anything just to get support including telling Jews/Christian's he believed they worshipped the true God except that he must be worshipped by his description (a religion that existed thousands of years before him)
He didn't destroy the quresh pagan gods he only tried unifying them into one because they were too many.
Quresh tribe worshipped so many idols and baal worshippers were in majority (Baal was oldest having been in ancient Mesopotamia)
Mohamed destroyed hundreds of idols except three which includes Baal and the three goddess.
He said these three goddess are intersesors to God and he bowed and worshiped them including the whole quresh tribe who felt honoured and exited to have unified goddesses (Mohamed trying to copy Christianity Trinity as usual)
Baal was still very much in the current kabba site, Mohamed didn't destroy it and the Quresh tribe used to go there and circle the altar of Baal and kiss it's altar for fertility, part of this ritual was they always circled it naked.
Mohamed later came to apologise that he was tricked by the devil and that the three goddess were never intersesors to God (this was after his borrowed interpretation of one God yet three could not be substantiated ).
So he destroyed the three altars of the goddess, came to the altar of baal, chased the quresh worshippers and called that altar the house of god (notice that where-ever is considered sacred to the people around him he fabricates a story on his connection to the place i.e the temple mount in Jerusalem).
Mohamed essentially evicted the quresh tribe from the kaabah for polluting the house with unclothedness, he fabricated a story on how Abraham and his son had been there before (mind you Abraham only sojourn was leaving his father's house in U'r to Cannan and never at anytime went to the Arabian deserts for anything)
Mohamed erected on the altar of baal and proclaimed it the "house" of allah his new one god, he retained the quresh ritual of cycling/kissing the altar aka "house of allah".
Today that same ancient Baal is now Allah the same altar of Baal the Qureshi idol which is forced down African, middle eastern Muslims throat
They can't ask simple questions like what concerns a supreme omnipresent God with a stone altar before forgiveness and intersection is made.
They can't ask the significance of kissing a specific black stone a mere creation of God to an omnipresent God
They can't ask why Muslims are patterned to address an omnipresent God in the limited language, practice of the arabs I wonder where you get what you wrote up there from. you wicked |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Nobody: 2:40pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
kilonshele101:
I wonder where you get what you wrote up there from. you wicked A combination of Islamic hadits written by early muslims, historical evidence which are verified. You are bringing Britannia and Wikipedia that is a political correctness online website which any d1ck and Harry can update Tracing allah to arabs is not the question, the question is how the arabs (ancient quresh) came up with the word allah |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by kilonshele101(m): 2:41pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
Mikecold: A combination of Islamic hadits written by early muslims, historical evidence which are verified.
You are bringing Britannia and Wikipedia that is a political correctness online website which any d1ck and Harry can update 1 Like |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by kilonshele101(m): 2:42pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
Mikecold: A combination of Islamic hadits written by early muslims, historical evidence which are verified.
You are bringing Britannia and Wikipedia that is a political correctness online website which any d1ck and Harry can update You can do well by providing a link or at least a pictorial evidence of your claim 1 Like |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by salam8528: 2:47pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
BusinessCity: To confuse naive people
Ubangiji is God and not Allah. Allah is a creation of man to follow a strange set of ungodly rules contrary to God.
If people delve deep into the origin of the word Allah, you'll be shocked to see its root deep in Baal, pro-government time idol King. Ba-al which was wrongly asserted as a straightforward word Baal. U are saying what u know not facts. So u are entitled to ur opinion, u can as well shove it under ur ass. 1 Like |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by salam8528: 2:49pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
Samunique: For where?
Water Don pass garri for them !!! It baffles me when slave call others slave. U guys are funny |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Nobody: 2:50pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
[quote author=kilonshele101 post=98493072][/quote] Arab world didn't start from 16th century
Yes some Arab Christian's cum Northern Christian's use the word allah to refer to their God in error due to the Muslim majority culture which they assimilate into |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by mcjohny(m): 2:51pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
@gofuckyourself what do you have to say |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Pecuman: 2:51pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
BusinessCity: To confuse naive people
Ubangiji is God and not Allah. Allah is a creation of man to follow a strange set of ungodly rules contrary to God.
If people delve deep into the origin of the word Allah, you'll be shocked to see its root deep in Baal, pro-government time idol King. Ba-al which was wrongly asserted as a straightforward word Baal. Allah is simply Arabic for God. But since almost all Arabs are Muslim and they make all Muslims learn and use Arabic when praying, it is usually taken to mean the Muslim God is specifics. |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by IamAtikulate: 2:51pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
Sammy07:
I think you're wrong in your last sentence.
Allah is an Arabic word for God as
Olorun is a Yoruba word for God
Arabic name for god is ilah. Al'lah means the god. |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Pecuman: 2:53pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
BabbanBura:
Ubangiji doesn't mean God. It means Lord Do you know the actual Hausa word for God? |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by HelpYourself(m): 2:53pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
mcjohny: @gofuckyourself what do you have to say Like I always say our creator has many names based on culture and tradition of the people What is most important is worshipping him in truth and living as good a life as possible through good deeds 3 Likes |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by Nobody: 2:56pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
kilonshele101:
You can do well by providing a link or at least a pictorial evidence of your claim If you don't know about the three goddess as a Muslim i don't think i have time to lecture you. Btw let me just give you on your same Wikipedia cos i don't have time to lecture you in depth |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by mcjohny(m): 3:01pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
GofuckYourself:
Like I always say our creator has many names based on culture and tradition of the people
What is most important is worshipping him in truth and living as good a life as possible through good deeds |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by kilonshele101(m): 3:14pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
Mikecold: If you don't know about the three goddess as a Muslim i don't think i have time to lecture you.
Btw let me just give you on your same Wikipedia cos i don't have time to lecture you in depth Lol I thought you are even wiser, you need a refund from your school for you not to understand the meaning of alleged that was used throughout the extract you posted. I asked you to provide an evidence, at least you saw it from somewhere that's more credible than Wikipedia. I also urge you to read the real book "satanic verses" by Salman Rushdie, that should help you understand extract you posted better, coz you obviously don't. 1 Like |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by triple996(m): 3:23pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
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Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by kilonshele101(m): 3:30pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
Mikecold: If you don't know about the three goddess as a Muslim i don't think i have time to lecture you.
Btw let me just give you on your same Wikipedia cos i don't have time to lecture you in depth And how come you missed these You should worry about the credibility as an historian that you're claiming to be |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by soohib(m): 3:40pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
Mikecold: Abdul you have history knowledge to an extent even though it's limited.
First of all, this God never told anyone his name is expressly Allah, unlike the God of Moses who expressly said his name is Jehovah.
If Allah is just a mere Arabic word for supreme God what stops Hausa Muslims from calling their God Ugbagiji which is the same meaning as Allah in arabic, same thing with Olorun from Yoruba Muslims etc.
What's the big deal about using Arabic translation since this God never called himself this?
If God is omnipresent and all knowing he wouldn't be bounded by a specific language.
As you said Muhammad had several dealings with the quresh tribe it's on record he was a man who formulated/fused anything just to get support including telling Jews/Christian's he believed they worshipped the true God except that he must be worshipped by his description (a religion that existed thousands of years before him)
He didn't destroy the quresh pagan gods he only tried unifying them into one because they were too many.
Quresh tribe worshipped so many idols and baal worshippers were in majority (Baal was oldest having been in ancient Mesopotamia)
Mohamed destroyed hundreds of idols except three which includes Baal and the three goddess.
He said these three goddess are intersesors to God and he bowed and worshiped them including the whole quresh tribe who felt honoured and exited to have unified goddesses (Mohamed trying to copy Christianity Trinity as usual)
Baal was still very much in the current kabba site, Mohamed didn't destroy it and the Quresh tribe used to go there and circle the altar of Baal and kiss it's altar for fertility, part of this ritual was they always circled it naked.
Mohamed later came to apologise that he was tricked by the devil and that the three goddess were never intersesors to God (this was after his borrowed interpretation of one God yet three could not be substantiated ).
So he destroyed the three altars of the goddess, came to the altar of baal, chased the quresh worshippers and called that altar the house of god (notice that where-ever is considered sacred to the people around him he fabricates a story on his connection to the place i.e the temple mount in Jerusalem).
Mohamed essentially evicted the quresh tribe from the kaabah for polluting the house with unclothedness, he fabricated a story on how Abraham and his son had been there before (mind you Abraham only sojourn was leaving his father's house in U'r to Cannan and never at anytime went to the Arabian deserts for anything)
Mohamed erected on the altar of baal and proclaimed it the "house" of allah his new one god, he retained the quresh ritual of cycling/kissing the altar aka "house of allah".
Today that same ancient Baal is now Allah the same altar of Baal the Qureshi idol which is forced down African, middle eastern Muslims throat
They can't ask simple questions like what concerns a supreme omnipresent God with a stone altar before forgiveness and intersection is made.
They can't ask the significance of kissing a specific black stone a mere creation of God to an omnipresent God
They can't ask why Muslims are patterned to address an omnipresent God in the limited language, practice of the arabs You may type (Qur'an 20 verse 14) on Google to clear some of your doubts. 1 Like |
Re: Any Northerner Here To Explain This? by poiunt: 3:41pm On Jan 27, 2021 |
Olorun - the sky god Chineke - the sky god Allah - arabic word for God ubangiji - lord 1 Like |