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I was about to post this.something similar happened to pdp in cross river north and judging by this,pdp will also lose out.cc fergie001

Dansuqi:
I was about to post this.something similar happened to pdp in cross river north and judging by this,pdp will also lose out.cc fergie001

There is no similarity with Agom/Jarigbe.

1. The legitimate primary that brought up Odey was held at the Party's nominated venue and communicated to INEC 21 days before.

2. Agom was not unlawfully excluded.

3 INEC observed the election.


So...it is dissimilar.

Agom's contention is of the Voter's register which he has to prove.

The Apc guy has appealed already,

fergie001:
There is no similarity with Agom/Jarigbe.

1. The legitimate primary that brought up Odey was held at the Party's nominated venue and communicated to INEC 21 days before.

2. Agom was not unlawfully excluded.

3 INEC observed the election.


So...it is dissimilar.

Agom's contention is of the Voter's register which he has to prove.

No sir.two parallel primaries were held thereby dividing the panel.the pdp constitution states that a primaries panel will be made up of 5 members but in the primaries that produced odey,only 3 members were present while in that but this could be argued that a quorum was formed with the chairman present.I dont know if this will hold in court....

Secondly,it is an established fact that the primary that produced odey did not used the statutory list which the supreme court affirmed two weeks ago.the odey faction already conceded to this fact in court by saying that they used a harmonized list endorses by the nwc..

In the light of the above,pdp held no valid primaries and had no candidate

Dansuqi:
No sir.two parallel primaries were held thereby dividing the panel.the pdp constitution states that a primaries panel will be made up of 5 members but in the primaries that produced odey,only 3 members were present while in that but this could be argued that a quorum was formed with the chairman present.I dont know if this will hold in court....

Secondly,it is an established fact that the primary that produced odey did not used the statutory list which the supreme court affirmed two weeks ago.the odey faction already conceded to this fact in court by saying that they used a harmonized list endorses by the nwc..

In the light of the above,pdp held no valid primaries and had no candidate

Number one; There were no parallel primaries of the PDP in CRN...there was only one Primary recognised by law.

In this case, the Primaries held as wont to be with INEC observing and at the Senatorial Zonal HQs as prescribed by law.

Jarigbe was accredited alongside Odey and others...Midway into the Primaries, he stepped out alongside 2 of the 5 panel members. He went to a hotel and conducted his own Primaries and declared himself winner.

The PDP appeals Committee sat and received no queries to resolve and thereafter, it went to the PDP Secretariat and they rightly decided Odey as the winner. The Chairman, Secretary and one other against two others against 2 other panel members. (for v against).

The membership list used during the Primaries is a subject of litigation presently. The Court will decide that.
Jarigbe has to prove that the list used by the PDP was not the authentic one.

Agi cannot bring up this at the tribunal.

We are both familiar with the Okorocha/Nwosu/Uzodinma and Ibezim/Ararume cases.

fergie001:
Number one; There were no parallel primaries of the PDP in CRN...there was only one Primary recognised by law.

In this case, the Primaries held as wont to be with INEC observing and at the Senatorial Zonal HQs as prescribed by law.

Jarigbe was accredited alongside Odey and others...Midway into the Primaries, he stepped out alongside 2 of the 5 panel members. He went to a hotel and conducted his own Primaries and declared himself winner.

The PDP appeals Committee sat and received no queries to resolve and thereafter, it went to the PDP Secretariat and they rightly decided Odey as the winner. The Chairman, Secretary and one other against two others against 2 other panel members. (for v against).

The membership list used during the Primaries is a subject of litigation presently. The Court will decide that.
Jarigbe has to prove that the list used by the PDP was not the authentic one.

Agi cannot bring up this at the tribunal.

We are both familiar with the Okorocha/Nwosu/Uzodinma and Ibezim/Ararume cases.

The supreme court two weeks ago has already affirmed the exco and delegate list of jarigbe.ayade already pleaded to a harmonized list different from what the court recognized.it is over

Dansuqi:
Same thing will happen in cross river north soon

It will Shock you

eneyoduke:
It will Shock you

It will shock you when Joe agi emerges

Dansuqi:
The supreme court two weeks ago has already affirmed the exco and delegate list of jarigbe.ayade already pleaded to a harmonized list different from what the court recognized.it is over

What made it over?

Won't a Court nullify the primaries by acknowledging that a particular list is authentic or not?

Let's wait for the Courts now. Once they make the pronouncement, the Certificate will be handed over to Agi.

fergie001:
What made it over?
Won't a Court nullify the primaries by acknowledging that a particular list is authentic or not?

The fct high court in abuja already did that while that of calabar differed.it is now left for the apex court to settle it and you know how this will be since they already decided on the delegate list...


I think the last alterations to the constitution and electoral act now allows a party to challenge the primaries of another party.can't remember exactly

Dansuqi:
The fct high court in abuja already did that while that of calabar differed.it is now left for the apex court to settle it and you know how this will be since they already decided on the delegate list...

I think the last alterations to the constitution and electoral act now allows a party to challenge the primaries of another party.can't remember exactly

The FCT High Court that upheld Jarigbe?

fergie001:
The FCT High Court that upheld Jarigbe?

Yes oh...but I fear jarigbe committed a tactical mistake by withdrawing his case from appeal court.the apex court might decide to just dismiss the case without doing substantial justice

Dansuqi:
Yes oh...but I fear jarigbe committed a tactical mistake by withdrawing his case from appeal court.the apex court might decide to just dismiss the case without doing substantial justice

There was a petition by Chief Wole Olanipekun.

A certain John Alaga took Jarigbe to Court for falsified documents.
On what grounds, because the Party didn't submit his name, so Jarigbe had no foundation since INEC recognised Odey whose name was on the ballot.

Neither PDP nor Odey were joined in the suit and when they attempted....the trial judge, a Justice Binta blocked it.

It went to appeal and same.

So...whether Jarigbe proves that the register used by Ayade and co were or weren't authentic....he stands no chance.

Tbh, it is an Odey or an Agi.

Jarigbe, nonetheless will be the happier cos the list that determines their futures in 2023 is in their palms.

fergie001:
There was a petition by Chief Wole Olanipekun.

A certain John Alaga took Jarigbe to Court for falsified documents.
On what grounds, because the Party didn't submit his name, so Jarigbe had no foundation since INEC recognised Odey whose name was on the ballot.

Neither PDP nor Odey were joined in the suit and when they attempted....the trial judge, a Justice Binta blocked it.

It went to appeal and same.

So...whether Jarigbe proves that the register used by Ayade and co were or weren't authentic....he stands no chance.

Tbh, it is an Odey or an Agi.

Jarigbe, nonetheless will be the happier cos the list that determines their futures in 2023 is in their palms.

You are missing the point.we argued this before and came to an understanding.the fct high court declared that jarigbe is qualified to contest and that he is the duly elected candidate of pdp having used the authentic list.dont forget that alaga is a lackey of jarigbe who simply forced the hand of the court to legitimize jari candidature and block odey.

Now,the appeal court rightly declared that alaga had no right to bring up the suit in the first place and threw out the suit.it refused to nullify the judgment of the fct court or go into the matter of who the rightful candidate is.
Now the case is before the supreme court and theres a big chance that they will dismiss the case like the appeal court and go on to restore odey without looking at who the rightful candidate is or whether a valid primary was held.in case the supreme court toed this line,jarigbe needed to have a plan B which is the case which was before fhc calabar where odey won.jarigbe appealed but after the supreme court judgment legitimizing his list and exco,he unwisely withdrew the case from the appeal which could have saved him incase odey won the one already at the apex court.I heard there was a similar case at fhc ph,am not sure.I dont know if you are getting me.

Dansuqi:
You are missing the point.we argued this before and came to an understanding.the fct high court declared that jarigbe is qualified to contest and that he is the duly elected candidate of pdp having used the authentic list.dont forget that alaga is a lackey of jarigbe who simply forced the hand of the court to legitimize jari candidature and block odey.

Now,the appeal court rightly declared that alaga had no right to bring up the suit in the first place and threw out the suit.it refused to nullify the judgment of the fct court or go into the matter of who the rightful candidate is.
Now the case is before the supreme court and theres a big chance that they will dismiss the case like the appeal court and go on to restore odey without looking at who the rightful candidate is or whether a valid primary was held.in case the supreme court toed this line,jarigbe needed to have a plan B which is the case which was before fhc calabar where odey won.jarigbe appealed but after the supreme court judgment legitimizing his list and exco,he unwisely withdrew the case from the appeal which could have saved him incase odey won the one already at the apex court.I heard there was a similar case at fhc ph,am not sure.I dont know if you are getting me.

The SC will somersault itself if it upholds Jarigbe.

The Court said he used the authentic list because it is the information he gave the Court. With the Court not allowing the PDP to be joined to the suit, the case is already on one leg.

Have you forgotten Nwosu and his Imo case, still at the FCT High Court where he claimed he was the winner and at the end what happened.

Jarigbe participated in a PDP primary and lost.

You cannot have a Plan B because the National Chairman of a Political Party is responsible for submitting names. They submitted Odey.

If Odey doesn't fly, the Party loses it.

fergie001:
The SC will somersault itself if it upholds Jarigbe.

The Court said he used the authentic list because it is the information he gave the Court. With the Court not allowing the PDP to be joined to the suit, the case is already on one leg.

Have you forgotten Nwosu and his Imo case, still at the FCT High Court where he claimed he was the winner and at the end what happened.

Jarigbe participated in a PDP primary and lost.

You cannot have a Plan B because the National Chairman of a Political Party is responsible for submitting names. They submitted Odey.

If Odey doesn't fly, the Party loses it.

You still dont get it.this is beyond the nwc.it is whether a valid primaries was held.which list was used? At the fhc,the odey faction already conceded that they used a harmonized list.they contested the legitimacy of this list in another case until the apex court where they lost finally last week.it is on record before the courts that they used a list different from the one jarigbe used.the courts are not that daft na.the odey faction have always been against this list even in court so how can they now suddenly claim that they now used this list again for the primaries? Once the supreme court agrees with jarigbe faction,they will have no option than to nullify the pdp primaries just like this very court did today

Dansuqi:
You still dont get it.this is beyond the nwc.it is whether a valid primaries was held.which list was used? At the fhc,the odey faction already conceded that they used a harmonized list.they contested the legitimacy of this list in another case until the apex court where they lost finally last week.it is on record before the courts that they used a list different from the one jarigbe used.the courts are not that daft na.the odey faction have always been against this list even in court so how can they now suddenly claim that they now used this list again for the primaries? Once the supreme court agrees with jarigbe faction,they will have no option than to nullify the pdp primaries just like this very court did today

We will see the next action since Agi has joined both of them as respondents.

fergie001:
We will see the next action since Agi has joined both of them as respondents.

No,agi could become a senator before the end of February.by the way,theres so much silence in imo north from inec and the courts.by now ibezim should have gotten a judgment from the appeal or at least the pdp candidate should have gotten a judgment.

Dansuqi:
No,agi could become a senator before the end of February.by the way,theres so much silence in imo north from inec and the courts.by now ibezim should have gotten a judgment from the appeal or at least the pdp candidate should have gotten a judgment.

We will see about that.

Heard the PDP candidate has gone to Court.

PDP's position on the Primaries.

fergie001:
We will see about that.

Heard the PDP candidate has gone to Court.

PDP's position on the Primaries.

Pdp position does not matter anymore it is what jarigbe and odey are presenting to the apex court that matters.check whether you can see odey's suit at the supreme court

Dansuqi:
Pdp position does not matter anymore it is what jarigbe and odey are presenting to the apex court that matters.check whether you can see odey's suit at the supreme court

PDP's position matters because the list in question was affirmed by they.
What did they present to the Court?

You think PDP will submit a delegates list to the Court, it will be affirmed and then go back to tell the Court they used the fake one?

No nah

Whomever said that is not sure. No Party will do that. Whether the list was used or not was never in contention. The High Court and Appeal had ruled before the Primaries, I suppose.

The order was USE the List. The question that will be asked now is...DID YOU USE THE LIST? That is where the proof sets in.

fergie001:
PDP's position matters because the list in question was affirmed by they.
What did they present to the Court?

You think PDP will submit a delegates list to the Court, it will be affirmed and then go back to tell the Court they used the fake one?

No nah

Whomever said that is not sure. No Party will do that. Whether the list was used or not was never in contention. The High Court and Appeal had ruled before the Primaries, I suppose.

The order was USE the List. The question that will be asked now is...DID YOU USE THE LIST? That is where the proof sets in.

Pdp has been mostly neutral in this case like inec even though they are part of the defendants.the battle has been between jarigbe vs agi.people that went to the fhc calabar clearly said that odey lawyers claimed to use a harmonized list and this was before the appeal and supreme court legitimized that list..
Finally,the appeal court refused to join the pdp in the case.only odey was permitted to join the suit so at the supreme court,it will be clearly between odey vs jarigbe and inec.
Infact,I just learnt that all the other candidates that partook in that primary testified that the authentic list wasnt used.

Dansuqi:
Pdp has been mostly neutral in this case like inec even though they are part of the defendants.the battle has been between jarigbe vs agi.people that went to the fhc calabar clearly said that odey lawyers claimed to use a harmonized list and this was before the appeal and supreme court legitimized that list..
Finally,the appeal court refused to join the pdp in the case.only odey was permitted to join the suit so at the supreme court,it will be clearly between odey vs jarigbe and inec.
Infact,I just learnt that all the other candidates that partook in that primary testified that the authentic list wasnt used.

It is simple. Everybody knows why the PDP is silent and that is because of the strongman across the "River".

I need to say something...this list issue was at FHC PH..the Courts were on vacation then. The FHC said use the authentic list.
The Ayade faction challenged it at the Appeal and lost again.
They went to the SC.

After the Primaries, Jarigbe got an exparte from FHC PH restraining INEC from recognising Odeh as winner.

After the exparte expired, Odeh took him to the FHC Cali....and it threw away Jarigbe's arguments and stated that the Party conducted the elections and majority of the panel members had signed on the report. Odeh now got his own restraining order that enabled INEC see him as the flagbearer.

fergie001:
It is simple. Everybody knows why the PDP is silent and that is because of the strongman across the "River".

I need to say something...this list issue was at FHC PH..the Courts were on vacation then. The FHC said use the authentic list.
The Ayade faction challenged it at the Appeal and lost again.
They went to the SC.

After the Primaries, Jarigbe got an exparte from FHC PH restraining INEC from recognising Odeh as winner.

After the exparte expired, Odeh took him to the FHC Cali....and it threw away Jarigbe's arguments and stated that the Party conducted the elections and majority of the panel members had signed on the report. Odeh now got his own restraining order that enabled INEC see him as the flagbearer.

You are now getting it.when jarigbe saw that the authentic list won't be used,he left to conduct his own primaries with the real list.the testimonies of other pdp candidates of course will carry more weight than that of panel members and inec and they are with esp now that he is about to crown who will succeed him st the green chambers.almost all the authentic delegates are with jari and must have testified in his favour so you see why am optimistic....

Dansuqi:
You are now getting it.when jarigbe saw that the authentic list won't be used,he left to conduct his own primaries with the real list.the testimonies of other pdp candidates of course will carry more weight than that of panel members and inec and they are with esp now that he is about to crown who will succeed him st the green chambers.almost all the authentic delegates are with jari and must have testified in his favour so you see why am optimistic....

He had no right to go conduct his own Primaries...

Like in Imo, the Appellate Court upheld the election approved by the National Secretariat of the Party. Do not forget that in Imo, about 4 candidates stood with Ararume that he was the winner of the Primaries.

The Supreme Court will dissect everything but it will go on to that LIST.

Olanipekun is likely representing Odeh.

fergie001:
He had no right to go conduct his own Primaries...

Like in Imo, the Appellate Court upheld the election approved by the National Secretariat of the Party. Do not forget that in Imo, about 4 candidates stood with Ararume that he was the winner of the Primaries.

The Supreme Court will dissect everything but it will go on to that LIST.

Olanipekun is likely representing Odeh.

No,in imo the contention was which primary was valid not about who won so the testimonies of other candidates does not arise...
In crn,it is about which list was used.how can odey prove that he used the authentic list? What if there was video evidence to show that the right list wasnt used? Since total votes was 550,can odey get up to half of that number to testify for him because am sure jarigbe can easily do that?

Dansuqi:
No,in imo the contention was which primary was valid not about who won so the testimonies of other candidates does not arise...
In crn,it is about which list was used.how can odey prove that he used the authentic list? What if there was video evidence to show that the right list wasnt used? Since total votes was 550,can odey get up to half of that number to testify for him because am sure jarigbe can easily do that?

Now you are talking.

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