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| Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by chieveboy(op): 10:35am On Jan 31, 2021 |
In 2015, I had a chat with a lady in the Astral. She had recently died in an automobile accident (in the physical world) at the age of 32, and had left behind two young kids and their father. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by Fantasticcc: 11:28am On Jan 31, 2021 |
Do such things exist?hmmm |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by chieveboy(op): 11:33am On Jan 31, 2021 |
Fantasticcc:Lol. Yes. You visit these so-called heavens every day. Just like the lady's kids who come visiting, you forget. A faint recollection of these journeys is what we humans call Dreams. ![]() |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by Fantasticcc: 3:47pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
chieveboy:Can anybody astral travel? Also any place to read more on this.. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by chieveboy(op): 3:58pm On Jan 31, 2021 |
Fantasticcc:Yes. Note though the author is not Astral Travelling. He is Soul Travelling and he went to the Astral Plan (where most people call heaven) and adjusted his vibration to that of that plane so people there could see him. Soul travel is the main thing. Thanks. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by melodyogonna(m): 1:11pm On Feb 02, 2021 |
chieveboy:So when people dream of being chased? |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by Nobody: 1:52pm On Feb 02, 2021 |
chieveboy:Why can't people like you define these things properly ![]() ??You can only claim to have had experiences of this or that. Why can't you define souls, spirits, and spirit realms properly ![]() ?Why can't you draw pictures of these things ![]() ? |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by chieveboy(op): 4:37pm On Feb 02, 2021 |
HellVictorinho:The explanation may be lengthy. The word 'Spirit' had been bastardized to mean any individualized energy or entity that man could not see with the eyes or any force which man cannot see. If you are a Christian, or Muslim, you must have heard of "First" or "Third heaven". This means there are Heavens. Of all 'Heavens' (Levels of Manifestation or Planes), there is a grand division where the creative power forked into dualism. This is any plane below the Fifth Heaven. This gave rise to the two polarities known as the Negative and Positive in physics. It's a phenomenon which sees that nothing can exist below this plane of the bifurcation without it's opposite. It bifurcated to create the possibility of experiencing pain and pleasure. This means, it's not possible to experience pain in Planes or Levels (Heavens) above the Fifth. Now in the real sense of the word 'Spirit', the spiritual heavens or entities are those on the fifth division and above. Any manifested body below is known as a psychic body. We all have four of those bodies: The Subconscious, the Mental, the Causal, the Astral and Physical bodies respectively. This also goes for the names of each Plane or heaven below the division. Who wears the various bodies in order to experience life in these planes? Soul. Soul ultimately is what can be called 'Spirit' because it is from a Spiritual Heaven rather than a psychic heaven. So if one 'travels' in their Soul body, they are more like the president with all clearance to visit each of these planes and even make their self visible or not like the author did. Using the physical body and sensoria, you can't even see what a dog sees. The dog is not using physical eyes to see. Physics had broken grounds in discovery of actual cities dwelling right here on earth but on the Astral dimension. The movie Wakanda is an example. There are several movie illustrating Parallel Universe and this subject. The CIA and other Intelligence agencies for instance have this technology for 'Remote Viewing'. That's Astral Travel using the Astral body with the aid of technology. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by chieveboy(op): 4:39pm On Feb 02, 2021*. Modified: 1:50am On Feb 03, 2021 |
Fantasticcc:Yes, the astral plane is a place where one's wildest imaginations stretched beyond limit. All the inventors on earth had been at the astral museum consciously and unconsciously in dreams, Astral Project and Soul Travel. Experiences beat reading books and being told things anytime. A simple wish to be more aware during dreaming can help you see things for yourself rather go an reading books. Not being conscious during dreams is a helpless situation. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by chieveboy(op): 4:42pm On Feb 02, 2021 |
melodyogonna:That was the person being chased on the Astral plane. Bad dreams are a result of negative emotions which places one on the negative places of the Astral plane. The Astral Plane and Body is the source of emotion. Thanks |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by Nobody: 5:20pm On Feb 02, 2021 |
chieveboy:The Bible and movies don't work here. Come up with something else. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by chieveboy(op): 5:55pm On Feb 02, 2021*. Modified: 6:16pm On Feb 02, 2021 |
HellVictorinho:Bible and Movies was me making it simple and bringing it home. Try this for starters: https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00788r001700210016-5 This is a declassified information. 'Gateway Process' by the way is science' fancy name and explanation for Psychic Powers aka Spiritual Power. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by Nobody: 5:59pm On Feb 02, 2021 |
chieveboy:Go straight to the point!!!!! The CIA is not the answer. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by chieveboy(op): 6:18pm On Feb 02, 2021 |
HellVictorinho:If a basic (non scientific) explanation did not work, a scientific research paper still didn't, l would say you got me lost as to what you want. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by Nobody: 6:22pm On Feb 02, 2021 |
chieveboy:Did the paper define spirits ??Is it the Bible or movies that can determine the truth ![]() ??Since you can't draw/obtain a picture of spirits,then spirits can't exist. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by chieveboy(op): 6:43pm On Feb 02, 2021 |
HellVictorinho:To "see" spirits, you need to try technologies in the line of Kirlian Photography which are yet at their infancy. All the while, l was thinking I was talking to a science buff... |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by melodyogonna(m): 8:34pm On Feb 02, 2021 |
chieveboy:Interesting. Do things that happen on the Astral Plane have an effect on this physical reality? |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by Nobody: 9:34pm On Feb 02, 2021 |
chieveboy:I shouldn't have to use technology to see what is as large as I am. Mr Science Buff, you need more than this to convince someone that has seen infinity. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by Nobody: 9:35pm On Feb 02, 2021 |
melodyogonna:Let him define astral planes properly before anything else. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by melodyogonna(m): 10:10pm On Feb 02, 2021 |
HellVictorinho:Think I have some understanding of what it is. This is not my first time hearing about it |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by chieveboy(op): 1:05am On Feb 03, 2021 |
melodyogonna:The actually is a mere rehashing of the astral. This means it's more real than the physical. Things happen there first before they happen here. This is how people fix problems in dreams and the physical adjusts to what was done. Not all the time does events in the Astral make it to the physical. Dwelling on the fear of being chased in the dream for instance is a way to manifest it. To avoid this, simply forgive all before sleep and focus on love. If you pray, pray with love and your prayer should be affirming the will of God to be done. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by chieveboy(op): 1:06am On Feb 03, 2021 |
HellVictorinho:Based on your line of thinking, l suppose you wouldn't use technology to view planets that are a million times larger than you. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by chieveboy(op): 2:00am On Feb 03, 2021 |
melodyogonna:The Astral body and dimension once again is the faculty we use to feel emotions. It is Emotions. It is subtle and powerful. You can send it around--your very emotions. In religion and motivational speeches, you must have heard of "feeling what you want in your life..." This is because if you can feel it as if it's here and have the conviction that's it's here while having a clear image of it, it will manifest. That would have been you moving the object or condition you want from the Mental plane (your visualization) then to the Causal ( The Action instinct or willing), and the to the Astral (the feelings) the physical usually is dud. It's gets whatever is loaded from the emotions or feelings. Note that this is how anything operates like deciding to take a walk. It's feels so automatic that we don't notice largely because we don't know of this. Soul sends signals to the brain to move a leg in this sequence. Thanks |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by byinks(f): 8:36am On Feb 03, 2021 |
Op I want to physically travel back to 1981, in my physical body.... enough of this 2021. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by Nobody: 9:46am On Feb 03, 2021 |
chieveboy:Bullshit!!!! I said something as large as I am. I didn't say something larger than I am. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by Nobody: 9:53am On Feb 03, 2021 |
chieveboy:Biology explains what sends signals to the brain. Biology also explains why you feel things. It has nothing to do with soul. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by chieveboy(op): 10:06am On Feb 03, 2021 |
HellVictorinho:You are high on old biology text books. Science has since moved on. You need to catch up. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by chieveboy(op): 10:12am On Feb 03, 2021 |
HellVictorinho:Sorry my bad. You can send me your latest image for proper analysis on this then. The size of you head and stomach (in meter square) would be helpful. We really need to know your actual size to be of help. Thanks. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by chieveboy(op): 10:18am On Feb 03, 2021 |
byinks:The data of 1981 is stored right there in you. It's called the Causal Body. It's right there in your stomach for upload as your present and future. Without the past, their can't be now and the future. A simple wish to go back in time before sleep could do it. People do it all the time and they have Dejavus or "visions". You can try the book in my signature if you care. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by Nobody: 10:56am On Feb 03, 2021 |
chieveboy:Ok. According to verifiable science, signals to the brain have nothing to do with soul. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by Nobody: 10:59am On Feb 03, 2021 |
chieveboy:I'm less than 7ft tall. You don't need more information concerning the matter. |
| Re: Conversation In The Astral On Death And The Aftermath by byinks(f): 11:06am On Feb 03, 2021 |
chieveboy:Ok that's really interesting but for further clarification....I want to extricate myself physically from 2021 back to 1981 and continue the remainder of my life as an adult from there....I have my reasons... Possible or no ?? |
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