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| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by DappaD: 9:35am On Feb 09, 2021*. Modified: 10:04am On Feb 09, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020:I said what you should be asking me is if I’m a witness for your Trinity which is a very big No. You and I have different opinions about who Jesus Christ is, so your question is convoluted. Someone who bears witness about someone or something, already has the assured expectation through diligent(thorough) investigation[Acts 17:2,11]—in this case, study of the Bible, which builds up someone’s faith that is based on real, convincing evidence. Hebrews 11:1 So basically before you can even think of witnessing about somebody or something, you must know and have all the facts and figures. When it comes to Jehovah’s Witnesses now, each one of them have the assured expectation through study of the Bible and are fully equipped/skilled to impart what they know to others[2Timothy 2:15], resulting a very fine witness about Jehovah God and his Son. Romans 10:13-15 At Acts 1:8, Jesus was speaking to Jewish men brought up in the Law so they already knew what it meant to be a witness for Jehovah. Isaiah 43:10-12 But since the old arrangement of the Law was no more effective[Ephesians 2:15] and since a new covenant was established, with Jesus as the mediator[Luke 22:28-30], they(his disciples) needed to follow Jesus Christ in order to approach Jehovah. Compare John 14:6 So that’s why Jesus said that his disciples are to witnesses of him since they were eyewitnesses of his death and resurrection. 1Corinthians 15:3-8 How would they give a sound witness to others about Jesus? 1. By following their Master’s earlier instructions by preaching from house to house in their locale. Matthew 10:11-13, Acts 5:42 Today, Jehovah’s Witnesses are following in the footsteps of Jesus and those early faithful Christians by going from house to house with their message, which results in a sound witness about Jesus Christ as Jehovah’s appointed King of the Kingdom he said we should preach to others about. Matthew 24:14, 28:19-20, Revelation 11:15 2. By their actions and conduct. Jesus told them that they could attract others to their message when they reflect the light in the message that they preach so that means that many would expect high moral standards for them which in turn gives a sound witness. Matthew 5:13-16, John 13:15 Today, Jehovah’s Witnesses are also following in the footsteps of Jesus and his early disciples by witnessing through conduct, actions and words. 1Peter 2:12 So that’s why many today expect high moral standards from Jehovah’s Witnesses because they are the only group who are truly representing i.e. witnessing through action about Jesus Christ. 1Peter 3:16, Hebrews 13:18 Actions and deeds speak way, way, way louder than words. That’s why I asked you earlier who truly witnesses about Jesus Christ through the actions listed below? 1. Preaching and teaching vehemently from the Bible about God’s Kingdom from house to house?So yes, Jehovah’s Witnesses speak[witness] about Jesus in the course of their preaching and also through action by letting others know the role Jesus has to play in all of God’s purposes[Daniel 7:13-14, John 5:22, 1Timothy 2:3-6, Revelation 19:11-16] but since he is not the Almighty God, Jehovah whom we primarily witness about[Isaiah 43:10-12], he doesn’t deserve the first place in our hearts, which he[Jesus] made clear to others[Deuteronomy 6:4-5 compare Matthew 22:37-39] and he also doesn’t deserve our worship which should go ONLY to Jehovah our God. Exodus 34:14, Deuteronomy 6:13 |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:17am On Feb 09, 2021 |
Questions needed to be addressed competently! WHO IS A WITNESS? WHAT IS REQUIRED TO QUALIFY AS WITNESS? HOW TO IDENTIFY A WITNESS? ![]() |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by jesusjnr2020(op): 11:10am On Feb 09, 2021 |
All these words just to answer a simple yes or no question. That's how you get F9 in class and start looking for someone else to blame when you're answering questions no one asked you. Let me see if you learnt anything new here or still so ignorant. Are you a witness of Christ as Jesus instructed His disciples to be? Jesus here is the One you claim is Lord even if you don't believe in mine, so answer the simple question and stop beating around the bush like a drunkard. DappaD: |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:33pm On Feb 09, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:One who attests to an event, teaching or act! So a witness of another person must think, speak and act in line with the one he is witnessing! A Nigerian can't be a witness of Buhari if he's not acting in line with the manufestos of Mr President! ![]() WHAT IS REQUIRED TO QUALIFY AS WITNESS?A QUALIFIED witness must know all the facts of events and how to translate the words of the one he is witnessing and make others act in line with the ideologies of the one he is witnessing. One who fails to carry others along with the teachings, ideas and thoughts of Jesus can't really be a witness of Jesus! ![]() HOW TO IDENTIFY A WITNESS?A witness of Jesus must always work with other Witnesses to increase the disciples of Jesus! Act 1:8 compare to Matthew 28:19-20 So let each person weigh himself if he's truly witnessing for Jesus or just saying LORD! LORD! without doing anything tangible for Jesus! Matthew 7:21-27 ![]() |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by haddeylium(m): 2:28pm On Feb 09, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020:Sorry oo ![]() Is it reading difficulty you have or Understanding? DappaD wrote that the Jws witness Jesus and even show you what it meant to be Christ's Witness. Rest now! ![]() So yes, Jehovah’s Witnesses speak witness about Jesus in the course of their preaching and also through action by letting others know the role Jesus has to play in all of God’s purposes[Daniel 7:13-14, John 5:22, 1Timothy 2:3-6, Revelation 19:11-16] |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:40pm On Feb 09, 2021 |
It's not the TRUTH that matters to him brother, he just want to condemn JWs because he feels we condemned him since we don't acknowledge him as a worshiper of our God! That's the beef he has with the group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" ![]() haddeylium: |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by DappaD: 2:44pm On Feb 09, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020:Nobody is here to answer you YES sir or NO sir . You asked a question so you have to allow the other person express himself since there are no T&C’s. When Jesus was asked the question on what to do to gain everlasting life some times—although the straight and direct answer was to exercise faith in him and follow after him[Matthew 16:24, John 3:16, 6:40]—he usually tailored his answers to the current scenarios, even drawing attention to the Hebrew Scriptures so he wasn’t just a robot answering in one way. He allowed them to come to their conclusions on what was required of them. Matthew 19:16-22, Luke 10:25-28 |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by jesusjnr2020(op): 6:40pm On Feb 09, 2021 |
haddeylium:Is it that lying is in the DNA of every Jehovah Witness? Because you know fully well that he still dodged and didn't answer the question but just tried to be too smart for his own intelligence, yet you deliberately lied that he did. Except you couldn't comprehend what the question was. I didn't ask if you Jehovah Witnesses speak or witness about Jesus, because I very well know you do that. Even the Antichrist Pharisees do that. The Muslims and almost every other faith do that. Even the demons and Satan do that. But what I asked you Jehovah Witnesses is if you're witnesses of Jesus as Jesus instructed His disciples to be? That's because there a difference between speaking or witnessing about Jesus and being witnesses of Jesus. A true Christian must be a witness of Jesus, for that's what distinguishes them from the Pharisees, Muslims and those of other faiths, the demons and Satan who also speak about or witness Jesus. So are you a witness of Jesus since you chose to be the spokesman of Dappa - d - dodger? If I asked if you were witnesses of Jehovah, you wouldn't beat around the bush with that, so if you do that now with this simple question, it proves that you're not true Christians but true Antichrists! |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by jesusjnr2020(op): 7:06pm On Feb 09, 2021 |
DappaD:The difference between you and the Pharisees is that you're Antichrists that even when it's clear that your hypocrisy has been found out, instead of accepting defeat and keeping silent which is what the Pharisees would do, you keep beating around the bush speaking all sorts of gibberish making matter much worse for yourself. So i'd ask you the simple question again to see if you've learnt anything thus far or are still wallowing in ignorance. Are you a witness of Jesus as Jesus instructed His followers to be? If you can't give a simple answer to the simple question as you would if I asked you if you were a witness of Jehovah, you'd prove that you're nothing but Antichrists! |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by DappaD: 8:35pm On Feb 09, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020: DappaD:So even with the numerous and I mean numerous Scriptures quoted to support all that’s been said about Jesus’ INSTRUCTIONS, you still choose to remain adamantly blind. Your type prefers to keep on shouting LORD, LORD, LORD yet with nothing to show for it. Luke 6:46 As the saying goes, empty vessels make the most loudest of noises that’s why there’s absolutely nothing you can even say to counter any of the above points that have been made. That’s why you have been repeating the same question that has already been answered since yesterday to hide the fact that you’ve been defeated. Even sincere observers by now would be even wondering if something has gone wrong with your brain. All you need to do is humble yourself before Jehovah and maybe—just maybe—he will draw you to the truth. John 6:44, 1Peter 5:5 |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by jesusjnr2020(op): 8:47pm On Feb 09, 2021 |
DappaD:I specifically meant the instruction Jesus gave to His disciples to be witnesses of Him so all those your numerous scriptures you used dodge the simple question and to justify your lies are of no significance to this topic. One more time just in case you didn't hear me well the last time I asked or your mind was somewhere else, are you a witness of Jesus as Jesus instructed His disciples to be? If you don't give a straight answer as you would if I had asked if you were disciples of Jehovah, you'd proved for the umpteenth time that you're not true Christians but true Antichrists! |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by DappaD: 8:52pm On Feb 09, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020:Okay so I see where the frustration is coming from. You want me to agree that we are both following the same Jesus, right? LOL! Pathetic! I’m here to tell you that my Jesus and your own are not the same in any way. Matthew 24:24 Your own permits you to keep shouting his name, Lord, Lord, Lord, Lord, Lord x a million times with nothing to show for it My own requires that I continually prove myself to be his disciple. Luke 11:28, John 15:1-8 |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by jesusjnr2020(op): 8:59pm On Feb 09, 2021 |
DappaD:Whichever Jesus you follow, if you are not His witnesses as He instructed His disciples to be, you're not a true Christians but true Antichrists! Keep proving that right as long as you keep dodging the simple question. |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by DappaD: 9:15pm On Feb 09, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020:The question has been answered thoroughly and in-depth. As my brother MaxInDHouse already stated, it’s not by force that you accept my answer after all you’re emptyheaded anyway so that’s why you have nothing to add or subtract from what I said. My own Jesus left a model that only Jehovah’s Witnesses are following ernestly[1Peter 2:21] meanwhile yours did not set any standards that’s why everyone of your kind is seeing all kinds of concocted dreams and visions, each one is hearing from his own “Holy Ghost” and “angels”, nobody is ready to submit to the other and so on. The religious “man of lawlessness” has actually been manifest amongst you people because you detest following laid down standards and principles. Matthew 7:21-23, 2Thess 2:3-8 |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by jesusjnr2020(op): 9:21pm On Feb 09, 2021 |
DappaD: jesusjnr2020: |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by haddeylium(m): 11:36pm On Feb 09, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020:That's why I said that you're Dyslesic . DappaD didn't just give you a Yes or No answer, he lectured you on what it means to be Christ's witness. He let you know how just metal acknowledgement of Jesus is not enough If you don't his instructions. He showed you how Jws are the only one witnessing Christ genuinely today by following his instructions aptly. He did highlighted them to you .Go back and study it slowly. Weigh all religious group you know of 'Witnessing Christ' by following his instructions. Quote this comment with the group that meet those standards. Here, I present Jehovah's Witness organization. |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by johnw47: 11:42pm On Feb 09, 2021 |
it's very easy for a christian to say: Yes I am a witness of the Lord and saviour Jesus Christ Acts 1:8 (KJV) But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. christians witness of Christ |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by jesusjnr2020(op): 12:12am On Feb 10, 2021 |
DappaD: haddeylium:Antichrists and Jehovah "false" Witnesses, look at how easy it is for a true Christian to say that they are witnesses of Christ! johnw47:That's what distinguishes a true Christian from Antichrists like the Pharisees and Jehovah false Witnesses! Let me also say it: "I am a witness of Christ!" Tomorrow you Antichrist Jehovah false witnesses would go again and be claiming to be to be true Christians when you are actually the true Antichrists! Organization of liars! |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by DappaD: 12:50am On Feb 10, 2021 |
haddeylium:I just left him the minute I noticed he had nothing upstairs that’s why he couldn’t add or subtract to any of the points I earlier made. And usually, shallow people with the least knowledge always are the most talkative. Talk is cheap! The demons also believe that God and Jesus exists. Luke 8:28, James 2:19 [Note that I’m not saying jnr should be classified as a ‘demon’] But what really makes him different from them if he’s not doing ANY of the things that Jesus commanded but always clamouring “Lord, Lord, Lord, Lord, Lord, Lord”? Luke 6:46 Actions speak louder than words! That’s why Jesus and his half brother James emphasized the need for action and adherence to instruction. Matthew 7:24-27, James 1:22-25 So for one to distinguish himself from the demons who also believe that God and Jesus exists, he must accompany his faith with works[action/deeds]. James 2:20-26 |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by Janosky: 12:54am On Feb 10, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020:John 7:16 , John 20:21, John 9:4, is the words of Jesus Christ missing in your Bible? Revelation 3:14, Acts 3:13, Matthew 12:15-18, Jesus Christ is the faithful witness of whom? Revelation 3:12, Who owns the reward given to faithful witnesses ? ![]() Please DECEIVE yourself the more ![]() |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by johnw47: 11:09pm On Feb 11, 2021 |
Janosky:oh duh confused know nothing false jw janosky Of course the Lord Jesus witnessed His Father God and christians are told to witness the Lord Jesus: Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:31pm On Nov 26, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:Still lying for your organisation. OLAADEGBU is back to haunt you until you repent and believe the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. ![]() |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by Janosky: 9:40pm On Nov 26, 2021 |
johnw47:Acts 8:12 New International Version But when they believed Philip as he proclaimed the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. 3 doghead slave of Pastorpreneurs, continue DECEIVING yourself. Acts 8:12 & John 7:16 no dey your Bible ![]() |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by Janosky: 9:44pm On Nov 26, 2021 |
OLAADEGBU:Acts 8:12 & John 7:16 which your fellow 3 doghead slave has NEVER seen in your Bible has debunked your FALSE claim. Sir, welcome to this forum after your self imposed hiatus. ![]() Shalom. |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by johnw47: 9:58pm On Nov 26, 2021 |
Janosky:Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: lost fraud jw janosky forever loving to blaspheme The Father and The Son and the Holy Spirit calling them "3 dogheads" and calling The Holy Spirit "the ole demon ghost" etc. u are without repentance and forgiveness Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven. rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by Janosky: 10:04pm On Nov 26, 2021 |
johnw47:Acts 8:12 & John 7:16 , Philip preached about the kingdom of God, the doctrine given to Jesus Christ. Is Acts 8:12 & John 7:16, blasphemy to 3 doghead slaves? Just asking ![]() |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by johnw47: 10:11pm On Nov 26, 2021 |
Janosky:Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: lost fraud jw janosky u can't get enough of blaspheming The Father and The Son and the Holy Spirit calling them "3 dogheads" and calling The Holy Spirit "the ole demon ghost" etc. u will do so til your last breath Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven. rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by Janosky: 10:20pm On Nov 26, 2021 |
johnw47:Na today? Continue WAILING ![]() |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by johnw47: 10:41pm On Nov 26, 2021 |
Janosky:Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: Pro_26:11 As a dog returns to his vomit, so a fool returns to his folly. Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by johnw47: 11:01pm On Nov 26, 2021 |
Janosky:Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: confused and lost know nothing fraud jw janosky loving to blaspheme The Father and The Son and The Holy Spirit at every opportunity philip preached things concerning the kingdom of God so, what is your point, u hearing too many voices in your head Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven. rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by johnw47: 11:49pm On Nov 26, 2021 |
Janosky:Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: lost fraud jw janosky continueing to blaspheme The Father and The Son and The Holy Spirit all over the place, and loving it, calling them "3 dogheads" Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven. rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
| Re: Is It Possible To Be A True Christian Without Witnessing Christ? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:03am On Nov 27, 2021 |
Janosky:Self imposed hiatus indeed. Thanks. ![]() |
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