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inoki247:
Well he as been given a 2nd chance to amend is ways nd stop been blunt...

Been blunt is a crime, so a gossip, talking behind ones back is good?

Nancy, romney, wolf, jake, eric bernette many(CNN's presenters) dnt like this news, amanpour, fareed, quest re unbiased

Nancy, romney, wolf, jake, eric bernette many(CNN's presenters) dnt like this news, amanpour, fareed, quest re neutral

Nancy pelosi is such a desperate bitter vicious animal, wonder y sm1 can bear extreme prejuidice against anoda human bei

The real enemies/traitors re within d GOP & nt outside as was confirmed wen 7 GOP's voted 4 trumps impeachment!

5thcolm:
Pity CNN for what?

They spent so much energy projecting the impeachment in favour of Democrats, days and weeks before the d day

naijapips04:
Dude he was the bleeping leader of ISIL/ISIS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Bakr_al-Baghdadi

if this is the same man you are talking about then you're wrong..

I am referring to general Sulemani of Iran not this man you posted.

He was an innocent man tag terrorist by Trump.same way Buhari tag ipob terrorist without evidence

Topmaike007:
if this is the same man you are talking about then you're wrong..

I am referring to general Sulemani of Iran not this man you posted.

He was an innocent man tag terrorist by Trump.same way Buhari tag ipob terrorist without evidence

He's a well know Iranian terrorist. Iran itself sponsor terrorism around the world.

https://www.businesstoday.in/current/world/iranian-general-qasem-soleimani-behind-terrorist-plots-in-new-delhi-london-claims-donald-trump/story/393160.html

naijapips04:
He's a well know Iranian terrorist. Iran itself sponsor terrorism around the world.

https://www.businesstoday.in/current/world/iranian-general-qasem-soleimani-behind-terrorist-plots-in-new-delhi-london-claims-donald-trump/story/393160.html

the link you posted said "claim Donald trump" it is someone like buhari claiming something that doesn't exist same way Buhari and his fellow henchmen claimed ipob and MNK are terrorist.

Trump is never an innocent man

tegrianonigltd:
Been blunt is a crime, so a gossip, talking behind ones back is good?

Don't mind him, i am not sure he knows what being blunt means

5thcolm:
And there is where the problem lies for Republicans.
Trumps have caused more harm to Republicans than good.
I want a strong Republican party but it's unfortunate Trump have made them weaker than ever.

I disagree, they would have problem is they had voted against Trump, voting against Trump would have being the end of the republicans. The democrats would have impeached more republicans. Voting against Trump means that they the repulicans have admitted guilt. What you seem to forget is that they are career politicians (both parties) they care only about their pockets. Imagine the democrats screaming about how the pandemic killed 400000 Americans, how the pandemic is priority, the pandemic is so much of a priority they concentrated more on impeaching Trump rather?


The republicans needs Trump, they have not won an election for 12 years atleast. Until Trump emerged.

At the end of the day they are all politicians Trump may have got few things wrong but Biden isn't a saint either the media caused all the divisions.

Sirjamo:
So you people cherish history when PDP is not involved, the moment we start bringing their calamitous 16 years, you will say we're doing blame game. Continue your hypocrisy!!!

My broda, frankly, I'm not a stalwart, supporter, or an apologist 2 any politician or pol party!

I've been politically neutral, bt a staunch & an irrepressible advocate of good governance!

Need I make it pointedly clear 2 u again dt d 16yrs mis-governance of PDP is arrantly nothing 2 be equated 2 d 6yrs catastrophic governance of APC?

Flagrantly, and objectively so, there hv been more deaths, insecurity, endemic systemic corruption, nepotism, immiseration, national debts, despotism, divisiveness, anti-democratic traits, stagflation, and all, under dis woebegone & unfortunate APC Buhari-led govt within jst 6 scanty yrs than under d PDP's 16 long yrs of tactless & reckless governance!

Compatriot, as intellectual & thoughtful dt u are, neva find urself trying mighty hard 2 defend d indefensible!

blowjohn:
They spent so much energy projecting the impeachment in favour of Democrats, days and weeks before the d day

What planet do you live in, they didn't. This was the predicted outcome that 6 to 7 republican voting to convict Trump. The exact Republican senators that would vote along with democrats to convict him was also named except for one.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/02/10/politics/republican-senators-trump-impeachment/index.html

gypsey:
I disagree, they would have problem is they had voted against Trump, voting against Trump would have being the end of the republicans. The democrats would have impeached more republicans. Voting against Trump means that they the repulicans have admitted guilt. What you seem to forget is that they are career politicians (both parties) they care only about their pockets. Imagine the democrats screaming about how the pandemic killed 400000 Americans, how the pandemic is priority, the pandemic is so much of a priority they concentrated more on impeaching Trump rather?


The republicans needs Trump, they have not won an election for 12 years atleast. Until Trump emerged.

At the end of the day they are all politicians Trump may have got few things wrong but Biden isn't a saint either the media caused all the divisions.

I agree with you no politician is a saint.

What do you mean republicans haven't won election 12 years before Trump.
Bush is a republican and he did 8 years
Then Obama democrat, 8 years
Trump didn't do anything special by winning 2016, kind of like the usual pattern.

Trump's behavior after the election really spoil most of is legacy.
He didn't gain new support for that behavior, he lost some.

The problem now is, republicans are divided right now. We have the Trump republicans and the never Trumper republicans. The never Trumper republicans got bigger after Trumps post election behavior.

The republicans are in a weird situation right now. It is difficult to support or not to support Trump publicly. That is why lot of republicans like mitch McConnell voted against impeachment sole based on technicalities. Mitch himself said on house floor that what happen on Jan 6 was solely Trump's fault.

With Trump still around and having lots of influence, I don't see republicans winning the presidency solely because of the division in the party except if democrats did extremely extremely bad

5thcolm:
I agree with you no politician is a saint.

What do you mean republicans haven't won election 12 years before Trump.
Bush is a republican and he did 8 years
Then Obama democrat, 8 years
Trump didn't do anything special by winning 2016, kind of like the usual pattern.

Trump's behavior after the election really spoil most of is legacy.
He didn't gain new support for that behavior, he lost some.

The problem now is, republicans are divided right now. We have the Trump republicans and the never Trumper republicans. The never Trumper republicans got bigger after Trumps post election behavior.

The republicans are in a weird situation right now. It is difficult to support or not to support Trump publicly. That is why lot of republicans like mitch McConnell voted against impeachment sole based on technicalities. Mitch himself said on house floor that what happen on Jan 6 was solely Trump's fault.

With Trump still around and having lots of influence, I don't see republicans winning the presidency solely because of the division in the party except if democrats did extremely extremely bad

Yea, sorry my mistake 8 years, during Obama's regime.

You are right the republicans are divided. Mitch is a politician he wants to keep his job in case Trump wins again which he will. Nancy pelosi, schumer, maxine waters, kamala harris and few other democrats all incited violence last year during the riots, the same crime they are accussing Trump of.

Trump actually gained more supporters especially after his aquital, did you know that Trump also won 17 cases he filed against some states (not 17 states) who he accussed of electoral fraud? Apart from the 22 cases he won also. CNN would not report it.

The democrats should have just ignored Trump rather they started chasing impeachment now with his aquital it looks like they were just witch hunting him..


Trump will definitely win if he runs again, that is what the democrats are afraid of. Otherwise they would have ignored him.


The media are to blame for all these. I keep saying. Trump is not guilty and will never be found guilty of any crime. Believe it not.

2 times impeachment and he was aquited on both, the dems should just move on.

Karlovic:
Don Lemonade and Fredo Cuomo will surely be seething in pains over there at CNN.

Those two nauseate me, especially the stupid Lemon guy. I could say Fredo has been pecking against Trump because his brother is the governor of New York.

mach7:
Burr and Toomey are already retiring. But Trump will certain primary Collins, Murkowski, Sasse and Cassidy in 2022. Romney I think is safe because he has a strong base amongst the Mormons of Utah. Trump's hold on the Republican party at the moment is very strong.

Collins, Cassidy and Sasse isn't contesting until 2026, as they just won reelection. They may even retire willingly if they senses a dwindling support by then. Romney's is in 2024. He's even getting old and may even retire also. If Romney contests again, he'll be primaried. That is if Trump still maintains his cult followship among Republicans by then.
primaries are different from general election. If Romney escapes the primary, he'll surely get reelected as independents would vote overwhelmingly for him.

gypsey:
Yea, sorry my mistake 8 years, during Obama's regime.

You are right the republicans are divided. Mitch is a politician he wants to keep his job in case Trump wins again which he will. Nancy pelosi, schumer, maxine waters, kamala harris and few other democrats all incited violence last year during the riots, the same crime they are accussing Trump of.

Trump actually gained more supporters especially after his aquital, did you know that Trump also won 17 cases he filed against some states (not 17 states) who he accussed of electoral fraud? Apart from the 22 cases he won also. CNN would not report it.

The democrats should have just ignored Trump rather they started chasing impeachment now with his aquital it looks like they were just witch hunting him..


Trump will definitely win if he runs again, that is what the democrats are afraid of. Otherwise they would have ignored him.


The media are to blame for all these. I keep saying. Trump is not guilty and will never be found guilty of any crime. Believe it not.

2 times impeachment and he was aquited on both, the dems should just move on.

Trump was let off on technicalities not because he isn't guilty, lot of republicans said it themselves. You, me, and democrats knows republican wouldn't convict Trump because of fear for their political future. The few that have guts says it's based on technicalities not because he isn't guilty.

Republicans wouldn't win a presidential election anytime soon without a rebranding of the party. They are in a tough situation.
Lots of independents like me loves more of republicans policies but what we hate more is to be led by unpredictable, reckless and sometimes crazy leaders.

For now, the republicans party is run by conspiracy theorist and people believing in crazy theorists. This is all because Trump promotes it.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj5pvgXAgMs

gypsey:
I disagree, they would have problem is they had voted against Trump, voting against Trump would have being the end of the republicans. The democrats would have impeached more republicans. Voting against Trump means that they the repulicans have admitted guilt. What you seem to forget is that they are career politicians (both parties) they care only about their pockets. Imagine the democrats screaming about how the pandemic killed 400000 Americans, how the pandemic is priority, the pandemic is so much of a priority they concentrated more on impeaching Trump rather?


The republicans needs Trump, they have not won an election for 12 years atleast. Until Trump emerged.

At the end of the day they are all politicians Trump may have got few things wrong but Biden isn't a saint either the media caused all the divisions.

Curious? Why do you think Republicans need Trump? While he was president, they lost the House, the Senate and then he lost election?
Also, do you think a leader who lead his followers to an attempted coup should be held to any political consequence?
And you think Trump got a few things wrong? What do you think he got right?

jcross19:
thanks and does it made obasanjo best president?

Jcross.., I don't indulge in unnecessary discourse. I only corrected a mistake.

IjeBos:
Curious? Why do you think Republicans need Trump? While he was president, they lost the House, the Senate and then he lost election?
Also, do you think a leader who lead his followers to an attempted coup should be held to any political consequence?
And you think Trump got a few things wrong? What do you think he got right?

Because at this moment as it appears (they are divided) they might not win any elections ever again without Trump. 85 million Americans supports Trump and those 85 millions are not democrats are they? They didn't lose the house, the elections was fraudulent, (Trump has won 22 he filed against some of that) when,where, how did Trump lead his followers to an atempted coup? (Though he has being acquited of that false accussations) I think you have being watching CNN. Some of his speeches may not have been politically correct, that is what he got wrong.. then again that was one of the things that won him the election.

Laurene:
Collins, Cassidy and Sasse isn't contesting until 2026, as they just won reelection. They may even retire willingly if they senses a dwindling support by then. Romney's is in 2024. He's even getting old and may even retire also. If Romney contests again, he'll be primaried. That is if Trump still maintains his cult followship among Republicans by then.
primaries are different from general election. If Romney escapes the primary, he'll surely get reelected as independents would vote overwhelmingly for him.

Very true, thanks for the date correction. Thought the 4 I mentioned were up in '22. Gonna be hard to unseat Romney though, even through primaries. Let's see how things develop.

5thcolm:
Trump was let off on technicalities not because he isn't guilty, lot of republicans said it themselves. You, me, and democrats knows republican wouldn't convict Trump because of fear for their political future. The few that have guts says it's based on technicalities not because he isn't guilty.

Republicans wouldn't win a presidential election anytime soon without a rebranding of the party. They are in a tough situation.
Lots of independents like me loves more of republicans policies but what we hate more is to be led by unpredictable, reckless and sometimes crazy leaders.

For now, the republicans party is run by conspiracy theorist and people believing in crazy theorists. This is all because Trump promotes it.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj5pvgXAgMs

You know? It is all politics, politics is a dynamic, as i keep saying the media played a very big part in all the American people's divisions.

Last year some Americans democrats were burning down businesses, smashing shops, looting, harrassing republican senators, killed some innocent Americans and some police men, accussed Trump of working with Putin to steal the election but it wasn't incitations of violence, insurrections or lies about Trump's victory. This January 6, Trump made a speech about marching peacefully to the capitol and he was accussed of incitations of violence and insurrections. You know? These politicians are liars, they don't care about the people they care only about their careers.


The Democrats campaign was all about covid and how it is a priority to tackle the pandemic, but when they took office their priority becomes impeachment trials. CNN never mentioned covid again, democrats never mentioned the pandemic again. It became all about Trump's impeachment and insuTrump, Biden, killary and obama none of them are saints.

Some Americans who voted Democrat party didn't vote for Biden they voted to remove Trump. It wouldn't have mattered who ran against Trump they would have still voted to remove Trump.

gypsey:
Because at this moment as it appears (they are divided) they might not win any elections ever again without Trump. 85 million Americans supports Trump and those 85 millions are not democrats are they? They didn't lose the house, the elections was fraudulent, (Trump has won 22 he filed against some of that) when,where, how did Trump lead his followers to an atempted coup? (Though he has being acquited of that false accussations) I think you have being watching CNN. Some of his speeches may not have been politically correct, that is what he got wrong.. then again that was one of the things that won him the election.

Your facts are off.
1.) He won 74,216,154 votes. Biden won 81,268,924. A lot of people in the US vote for the party. So, of those 74 million he won, you can't say they all blindly follow him. And because of his post election antics some of those Independents and moderate Republicans who voted for him have already left the party or signaled they won't support him again or the Republican party for supporting him. In fact because of his antics the Democrats picked up two seats in GA which had been reliably Republican.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election

2.)Trump has not won 22 cases. He filed roughly 84 cases relating to the 2020 election results and won 1. And the ONE he did win "centered on reducing the amount of time Pennsylvania voters had to fix errors on their mail-in ballots."
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/feb/09/blog-posting/trump-did-not-win-two-thirds-election-lawsuits-whe/
His lawyers have been eviscerated by everyone, even Judges he just appointed. Here is an article by one, a CONSERVATIVE Republican judge. If you are interested in US Constitutional law and what the Courts(all of them) thought about the merits of his fraud arguments, download the ruling and read it. It's devastating.
‘This is simply not how the Constitution works’: Federal judge eviscerates Trump lawsuit"
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/21/federal-judge-tosses-trump-suit-over-pennsylvania-election-results-439010

3.) What happened at the Capital was an attempted coup. They tried to kill legislatures and prevent them from certifying an election and thus change the outcome of the election by violence to keep Trump in power. How is that any different than any of the coups that have happened in Nigeria?

Lastly, it doesn't help your case when your arguments are premised on lies. Studies have been done that those who mostly read/listen to far right media are less informed and dumber for it. I think all your misrepresentations above prove that. Get off all the alternative media, leave the parallel world you live in devoid of facts and join us in this one.

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gypsey:
You know? It is all politics, politics is a dynamic, as i keep saying the media played a very big part in all the American people's divisions.

Last year some Americans democrats were burning down businesses, smashing shops, looting, harrassing republican senators, killed some innocent Americans and some police men, accussed Trump of working with Putin to steal the election but it wasn't incitations of violence, insurrections or lies about Trump's victory. This January 6, Trump made a speech about marching peacefully to the capitol and he was accussed of incitations of violence and insurrections. You know? These politicians are liars, they don't care about the people they care only about their careers.


The Democrats campaign was all about covid and how it is a priority to tackle the pandemic, but when they took office their priority becomes impeachment trials. CNN never mentioned covid again, democrats never mentioned the pandemic again. It became all about Trump's impeachment and insuTrump, Biden, killary and obama none of them are saints.

Some Americans who voted Democrat party didn't vote for Biden they voted to remove Trump. It wouldn't have mattered who ran against Trump they would have still voted to remove Trump.

Jesus, you traveled way down that Rabbit hole. Everyone in the US still talks about COVID everyday! The president incited an attempted coup, our Capital was breached, they tried to Hang the Vice President (they almost captured him by I think 20 feet), they wanted to kill the Speaker of the House and any lawmakers they could find and you wonder why that knocked Covid off the front pages for a couple of days? Dude, you are real real deep in your delusion. In fact below is todays NY times. Check the Covid references.

IjeBos:
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Jesus, you traveled way down that Rabbit hole. Everyone in the US still talks about COVID everyday! The president incited an attempted coup, our Capital was breached, they tried to Hang the Vice President (they almost captured him by I think 20 feet), they wanted to kill the Speaker of the House and any lawmakers they could find and you wonder why that knocked Covid off the front pages for a couple of days? Dude, you are real real deep in your delusion. In fat below is todays NY times. Check the Covid references.

Okay, whatever! I am delusional, thank you! now anything else reasonable you would like to add?

gypsey:
You know? It is all politics, politics is a dynamic, as i keep saying the media played a very big part in all the American people's divisions.

Last year some Americans democrats were burning down businesses, smashing shops, looting, harrassing republican senators, killed some innocent Americans and some police men, accussed Trump of working with Putin to steal the election but it wasn't incitations of violence, insurrections or lies about Trump's victory. This January 6, Trump made a speech about marching peacefully to the capitol and he was accussed of incitations of violence and insurrections. You know? These politicians are liars, they don't care about the people they care only about their careers.


The Democrats campaign was all about covid and how it is a priority to tackle the pandemic, but when they took office their priority becomes impeachment trials. CNN never mentioned covid again, democrats never mentioned the pandemic again. It became all about Trump's impeachment and insuTrump, Biden, killary and obama none of them are saints.

Some Americans who voted Democrat party didn't vote for Biden they voted to remove Trump. It wouldn't have mattered who ran against Trump they would have still voted to remove Trump.

Except you haven't been seeing Trump's tweets about how wild the Jan 6 match is gonna be and you probably didn't hear his speech on Jan 6 and you probably didn't notice how he delayed rebuking the insurrections.
And the fact that he only talked about peace once and the rest of his speech and other speakers says otherwise

Me, you, Nancy pelosi, mitch McConnell can say election was rigged with baseless claims and get away with it and maybe not have people acting on it.

When it's coming from the most powerful man in the world with loudest microphone in the world, it's has more traction and people are gonna take more serious and might feel the need to take things to a bad level.

Did you watch the video I attached?
Do you disagree with what the leader of republican in senate said in the video?

I agree with you, people didn't vote for Biden, they voted to remove Trump. His behavior after the election only justified that.

Trump recklessness cost him the election, he should have easily won.
I was kind of a fan of him but he lost me last year.
His recklessness post election made matters worse.

CNN and Co would do whatever they have to do for there agenda, same as Fox News would support whatever a republican president does and would find everything wrong with what a democrat president does even when he wears a tan suit...lol. it's what it is

IjeBos:
Your facts are off.
1.) He won 74,216,154 votes. Biden won 81,268,924. A lot of people in the US vote for the party. So, of those 74 million he won, you can't say they all blindly follow him. And because of his post election antics some of those Independents and moderate Republicans who voted for him have already left the party or signaled they won't support him again or the Republican party for supporting him. In fact because of his antics the Democrats picked up two seats in GA which had been reliably Republican.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election

2.)Trump has not won 22 cases. He filed roughly 84 cases relating to the 2020 election results and won 1. And the ONE he did win "centered on reducing the amount of time Pennsylvania voters had to fix errors on their mail-in ballots."
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/feb/09/blog-posting/trump-did-not-win-two-thirds-election-lawsuits-whe/
His lawyers have been eviscerated by everyone, even Judges he just appointed. Here is an article by one, a CONSERVATIVE Republican judge. If you are interested in US Constitutional law and what the Courts(all of them) thought about the merits of his fraud arguments, download the ruling and read it. It's devastating.
‘This is simply not how the Constitution works’: Federal judge eviscerates Trump lawsuit"
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/21/federal-judge-tosses-trump-suit-over-pennsylvania-election-results-439010

3.) What happened at the Capital was an attempted coup. They tried to kill legislatures and prevent them from certifying an election and thus change the outcome of the election by violence to keep Trump in power. How is that any different than any of the coups that have happened in Nigeria?

Lastly, it doesn't help your case when your arguments are premised on lies. Studies have been done that those who mostly read/listen to far right media are less informed and dumber for it. I think all your misrepresentations above prove that. Get off all the alternative media, leave the parallel world you live in devoid of facts and join us in this one.

Okay! Whatever!! I am dumber or whatever it is you called me, thank you! You know? When people like you loses an argument they resort to being rude and making derogatory remarks.

Now, anything else reasonable you would like to add?

Frankly, i don't care about Trump, Biden or any politician. Believe what you like.

gypsey:
Okay! Whatever!! I am dumber or whatever it is you called me, thank you! You know? When people like you loses an argument they resort to being rude and making derogatory remarks.

Now, anything else reasonable you would like to add?

Frankly, i don't care about Trump, Biden or any politician. Believe what you like.

It wasn't an argument. I corrected your "facts". You made a post where your "facts" premises were wrong and somehow thought you were making a coherent argument? How can you build an argument where your foundation (your facts) isn't there? Again, get off the far right sites, it'll make you embarrass yourself when you talk to people who are actually in the know (like above).

IjeBos:
It wasn't an argument. I corrected your "facts". You made a post where your "facts" premises were wrong and somehow thought you were making a coherent argument? How can you build an argument where your foundation (your facts) isn't there? Again, get off the far right sites, it'll make you embarrass yourself when you talk to people who are actually in the know (like above).

Your facts i guess or the left's facts, maybe even CNN's facts.

Look! As i said, believe what you like.

This is what politicians and the media does, divide and rule, you have never met me but you have labelled me dumber and a far right. I have not even labelled you anything, I could have said the same to you, get off that far left sites, you and I might even agree on different topics but you have concluded that i am dumber.

People cannot handle different opinions anymore all because of the media, and politicians, people label each other far left, far right, bla bla bla! Fighting themselves while poiticians are laughing their ways to their banks, living cushy lives.

Take care mate!

gypsey:
Your facts i guess or the left's facts, maybe even CNN's facts.

There are things that are quantifiable and knowable. How many votes Trump received is quantifiable. How many cases he won is quantifiable. Those are facts. Those are things you falsely or knowingly misrepresented. And then you go on your tangent about the left and CNN.

gypsey:
Your facts i guess or the left's facts, maybe even CNN's facts.
People cannot handle different opinions anymore all because of the media, and politicians, people label each other far left, far right, bla bla bla! Fighting themselves while poiticians are laughing their ways to their banks, living cushy lives.
Take care mate!

Again, it's not about opinion. Your argument is false if the premise is false. And you haven't even corrected your false statements. You'll just keep plowing through as if you never made them.
And btw Politicians are laughing their way to the bank(Trump (200 million dollars more in the bank because MUMUS sent him money to "fight the stolen election" )), because people don't take the time to get informed and so they vote and stan for demagogues. Like you are doing here.

inoki247:
Well he as been given a 2nd chance to amend is ways nd stop been blunt...

lmao who political correctness help