apolonius:


Great plans.

Option 1 is doable but expensive. More importantly, with the benefits of hindsight, I will do LLB(JD) and an LLM in Canada. Doing it here will open unimaginable doors for you that the UK won’t open in 40 years.

Option 2-I can’t advice because of professional ethics. But I will say direct the plan to Canada. Will likely succeed and be far less challenging with proper guidance and information.

Thanks a lot. I guess I'll remove UK from my plans and focus on Canada.

Please can you be more detailed with the financial opportunities in numbers - potential earnings.

Entering into the UK is so much easier than Canada. The last time I tried Canada, they said I have no travel history after gaining admission into University of Regina.

The process of coming to Canada through schooling also takes almost a year, even skilled FedEx entry takes that long too. Maybe I'll try with the tourist visa too.

CSTRR:

Go and learn how to code/programming.
It does not need a science background.

You can become science oriented by your own making and by force.

how? I don't even know the basics of this.

tensazangetsu20:

Engineering is horrible even with good grades. The only aspects of engineering worth getting into now are either computer or electrical engineering.

It is honestly.
The only people with a real job prospects are Nurses and doctors.

The rest Na wash.

With law, you don't need to go back to law school everywhere.

In Canada, you need to get your degree evaluated and then you do the courses they feel you need to complete.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpiAhJ721ik

It is better for you to go for a masters or certificate and combine some of the courses you need to do with your Masters.

You could also just study by yourself and write the exams.

The way English is taught here is not how English is taught overseas.

tensazangetsu20:

With law, you would need to go back to law school. English teaching works provided you get certified and target non-english speaking nations but it still does not pay as much as the sciences.

Not true. Your law degree ain't useless.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpiAhJ721ik

Gerrard59:


Art courses are largely country dependent. Nigeria's Law degree is useless outside the country but not for medicine or engineering. Also, in jobs' availability, even their citizens face low prospects and salaries. Check the lamentations by PhD grads in history, philosophy, political science etc. Now, compare to science based courses and you will see the difference. Someone with a PhD in Computer Science from Princeton will quickly get a job anywhere in the world over his counterpart with a PhD in history from the same institution.

It's what it's.

CSTRR:

It is honestly.
The only people with a real job prospects are Nurses and doctors.

The rest Na wash.

IT too. A lot of my friends with skills are getting visa sponsorship jobs right out of Nigeria. It's insane. I know like 3 people who have left this Corona period all their visas were sponsored from Nigeria. There's too much demand and not enough supply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpiAhJ721ik

APOPTOSIS:

PLEASE what will a LAW GRADUATE be expecting from a country with an entirely different Legal system?
That Law graduate should better be prepared to do other jobs or better go back and study.

NIGERIAN PHILOSOPHY GRADUATE abroad is a mirage. Such a graduate should prepare his or her mind to enroll in something more lucrative there.

One of the most lucrative art courses abroad remains Foreign Languages and International relations. Those who can interpret many languages are indispensable.

Bodyodour:
how? I don't even know the basics of this.

Go to YouTube.

Search videos on programming and the different areas in programming.
Web design, back end, database, web app development, android or iOS apps development, cyber security, e.t.c.

Once you have made a decision on which one, there are videos on YouTube that can teach you.

You can go to the programming section on nairaland to learn more about the different areas in programming.

With rigourous study, in one year, you would be job ready in your chosen area of tech.

Bodyodour:
how? I don't even know the basics of this.

no be everybody de make am oh. you have to have money before starting programming not all stories are true. I advise you to improve yourself in your field instead of going to go and kill yourself.

True talk

SegFault:

no be everybody de make am oh. you have to have money before starting programming not all stories are true. I advise you to improve yourself in your field instead of going to go and kill yourself.

lol.@the bolded wouldn't be a problem.

Bodyodour:
lol.@the bolded wouldn't be a problem.

Good for you, get a good laptop and begin, programming no be for poor boys like me way no fit afford common guitar. Me self no care again anything way one happen make e happen.

optimusprime2:


Heres the problem with such courses; for instance, as a Nigerian, you are looking for a job in France but you studied Philosophy in English the dynamics have completely changed, why? Because studying a course like Philosophy in French is a different ball game entirely from studying it in English, concepts are altered, lingo and terminologies are different, perspectives are different due to political and cultural views etc if your degree was not obtained in a French speaking module, even if you speak French, it is still different.

Such courses are regional specific, Philosophy in Japan also takes a very different twist, meaning you have to study Philosophy in Japanese to work in that feild in Japan. Your Nigerian Philosophy degree in most cases do not have the outlook for other countries. I mean just imagine what political science would look like in a country like China?
Not to mention licences and memberships to local bodies that such courses require in order to practice.

However when it comes to science, 1+1=2 and 2x2=4 anywhere in the world.

Same goes for IT, this technical concept is pretty much the same worldwide
Garbage in <=> Garbage out

Except for SI units and metrics of measurements, language does not affect universal concepts that are practical.

You're well learned guy, I admire your write up.
This is a good topic for parents especially in the decision their kids make in career choosing. They need to educate them on the opportunities the present day life present to us .
E.g, A seafarer is same all over the world and can sail on any ship and in any coast and waters all over the world

captain247:


You're well learned guy, I admire your write up.
This is a good topic for parents especially in the decision their kids make in career choosing. They need to educate them on the opportunities the present day life present to us .
E.g, A seafarer is same all over the world and can sail on any ship and in any coast and waters all over the world

That's also another dead field. If you don't have serious connections at the beginning forget seafaring. IT is the greatest field now immediately after the medical line.

The first and the most important focus about traveling abroad is JOB guarantee..
Now what type of job is most sought after in the country of choice?

A simple search on google using "Most sought after skill in Canada or Dubai" will serve as a useful guide to help plan towards a successful
relocation.

From the search we saw, Forklift operator, Truck driving, Plumber ,Electrician ,construction worker and Mining jobs tops the chart for skilled labour.

all these can help you prepare ahead and get professional training and certification to help you land a lucrative job security.
In some countries like Canada,and new Zealand work permit is not required in your skill is not readily available in that town you wish to relocated to.
There a good number of Skill acquisition training centers in Nigeria with international accreditation that could help you in that direction.

@op, If you need a visa Guide to Canada within 3-6months
DM me

To do Masters in nursing, how is it possible for someone that is coming from a Biological sciences background?

Studied Environmental Biology/Zoology

Coldie:

Just go do masters for nursing since u be science student. Thank me later

[quote author=apolonius post=99184463]I haven’t logged on to post for awhile but for the silly generalizations on this topic.

Art courses are relevant and useful in the West just like science courses. It depends on where you are, what you want, what you know and who is guiding you.

I have lived in the UK for 11 years, and Canada for some years. While I studied in the former to PhD level, I did art(law). It has served me well.

I know many who read art courses who are doing well in the financial, legal, healthcare, business and hospitality industries in Canada.

In short, they read these courses from places like Abia, Osun, Ebonyi, Delta, Ogun and Ekiti states.

I know science graduates too.

Through the Canadian NCA process, I have met and continue to interact with many Naija lawyers trying to practice here. Some work in courts, law firms and big professional services firms like PWC, Deloitte, Denton...while writing their licensing exams.

The licensing exams that Naija lawyers write are also written by American, British and Australian lawyers who want to practice law in Canada. It’s not peculiar to Naija lawyers.

Naija and other African doctors even face greater and tougher pathways to getting licensed here.

Engineers, nurses and teachers from across the world face licensing requirements and demands here too. Reason?

...Traditional professions are elitist and regulated to ensure credibility, control and compliance, and standardization.

In Canada, the UK, the US and co, all immigrants go through processes and seasons to settle in. Reason? We were not born here, didn’t study here and couldn’t have built the organic network for easy ascension.

It takes time to study, graduate and work in Naija where we were born and raised. It’s not abnormal and it is expected to take same, if not longer time, away from home in societies that are many decades, if not centuries, ahead of ours.

Over 30,000 Nigerians moved to Canada since 2015...The opportunities and areas of accomplishments and struggles are diverse across science and the arts.

Guys, do your research before you generalize.Stop listening to single and half stories of people who are determined to stay in their comfort zones on the sidelines of these societies.

I can speak confidently about the UK and Canada. Ask questions, if you have.

What is the opportunity like in Canada for Accounting from Nigeria

uuzba:

You are using foreign language to convey Nigerian ideology.
They will know you are not one of them.
If you watched the movie, "Inglourious Basterds" that was one part the Germans used to catch an English man posing as a german.

Pls can u explain how he was caught... I've watched the film but I've forgotten that part

apolonius:
I haven’t logged on to post for awhile but for the silly generalizations on this topic.

Art courses are relevant and useful in the West just like science courses. It depends on where you are, what you want, what you know and who is guiding you.

I have lived in the UK for 11 years, and Canada for some years. While I studied in the former to PhD level, I did art(law). It has served me well.

I know many who read art courses who are doing well in the financial, legal, healthcare, business and hospitality industries in Canada.

In short, they read these courses from places like Abia, Osun, Ebonyi, Delta, Ogun and Ekiti states.

I know science graduates too.

Through the Canadian NCA process, I have met and continue to interact with many Naija lawyers trying to practice here. Some work in courts, law firms and big professional services firms like PWC, Deloitte, Denton...while writing their licensing exams.

The licensing exams that Naija lawyers write are also written by American, British and Australian lawyers who want to practice law in Canada. It’s not peculiar to Naija lawyers.

Naija and other African doctors even face greater and tougher pathways to getting licensed here.

Engineers, nurses and teachers from across the world face licensing requirements and demands here too. Reason?

...Traditional professions are elitist and regulated to ensure credibility, control and compliance, and standardization.

In Canada, the UK, the US and co, all immigrants go through processes and seasons to settle in. Reason? We were not born here, didn’t study here and couldn’t have built the organic network for easy ascension.

It takes time to study, graduate and work in Naija where we were born and raised. It’s not abnormal and it is expected to take same, if not longer time, away from home in societies that are many decades, if not centuries, ahead of ours.

Over 30,000 Nigerians moved to Canada since 2015...The opportunities and areas of accomplishments and struggles are diverse across science and the arts.

Guys, do your research before you generalize.Stop listening to single and half stories of people who are determined to stay in their comfort zones on the sidelines of these societies.

I can speak confidently about the UK and Canada. Ask questions, if you have.

detoby:
[/quote][quote author=apolonius post=99184463]I haven’t logged on to post for awhile but for the silly generalizations on this topic.

Art courses are relevant and useful in the West just like science courses. It depends on where you are, what you want, what you know and who is guiding you.

I have lived in the UK for 11 years, and Canada for some years. While I studied in the former to PhD level, I did art(law). It has served me well.

I know many who read art courses who are doing well in the financial, legal, healthcare, business and hospitality industries in Canada.

In short, they read these courses from places like Abia, Osun, Ebonyi, Delta, Ogun and Ekiti states.

I know science graduates too.

Through the Canadian NCA process, I have met and continue to interact with many Naija lawyers trying to practice here. Some work in courts, law firms and big professional services firms like PWC, Deloitte, Denton...while writing their licensing exams.

The licensing exams that Naija lawyers write are also written by American, British and Australian lawyers who want to practice law in Canada. It’s not peculiar to Naija lawyers.

Naija and other African doctors even face greater and tougher pathways to getting licensed here.

Engineers, nurses and teachers from across the world face licensing requirements and demands here too. Reason?

...Traditional professions are elitist and regulated to ensure credibility, control and compliance, and standardization.

In Canada, the UK, the US and co, all immigrants go through processes and seasons to settle in. Reason? We were not born here, didn’t study here and couldn’t have built the organic network for easy ascension.

It takes time to study, graduate and work in Naija where we were born and raised. It’s not abnormal and it is expected to take same, if not longer time, away from home in societies that are many decades, if not centuries, ahead of ours.

Over 30,000 Nigerians moved to Canada since 2015...The opportunities and areas of accomplishments and struggles are diverse across science and the arts.

Guys, do your research before you generalize.Stop listening to single and half stories of people who are determined to stay in their comfort zones on the sidelines of these societies.

I can speak confidently about the UK and Canada. Ask questions, if you have.

What is opportunities like for Accounting graduates from Nigeria

uuzba:

You are using foreign language to convey Nigerian ideology.
They will know you are not one of them.
If you watched the movie, "Inglourious Basterds" that was one part the Germans used to catch an English man posing as a german.

Why should I act as an imposter when I know the consequences.

My brother, pls don’t fall for those deceit. There is no discipline that would give u work abroad. If u re a nurse or medical doc in Nigeria. U still need license examinations like Nclex. Nclex for instant might take u 3yrs to pass depends on your IQ. Engineering start start afresh in d western countries unless u re ready for top up and certifications.

ugohdignity111:
So graduates that studied Environmental biology/Zoology for Nigeria, if they are opportuned to travel abroad, they will make it there?

So all this courses like
Parasitology
Entomology
Toxicology
Environmental Biology
Biotechnology
Soil science
Animal science
Molecular biology and genetics
Biochemistry and the likes are not entirely useless abi?

Yes, they're not useless. In fact, I'll advise a studious student in those departments to travel out for MSc/PhD immediately after studies. They've better and easier to get opportunities than their law, philosophy or whatever humanities' counterparts.

MufasaLion:


Law is a useless course in Nigeria. Sadly, Nigerians don't know yet.

studying law in Nigeria is not worth it. I am a lawyer and I have been jobless. I attached myself to a chamber, and for 2 days we didn't see a single client. Even when you attach yourself too a chamber in town, you will be paid a very low salary. Lawyers also twist the truth to favour them. Do you know that when applying or looking for a job in Nigeria as a lawyer, you will hardly see llb or b.l needed, all you will see is bsc,b.eng,ond,nceand nd. I am currently looking for federal Government job. I don't want to regret studying law.

MufasaLion:


Law is a useless course in Nigeria. Sadly, Nigerians don't know yet.

Rather the whole nigeria is a useless country.

If I may chip in, art courses in the west are highly competitive and saturated (e.g. Law, Political Science). They also vary from one jurisdiction to another just like some previous posters have pointed out. Whereas, science is the same everywhere. Even medicine and accountancy that requires you to undergo their own versions of the aforementioned courses are in very high demand. I am a lawyer but I have to acknowledge that science is more important to the development of a country than arts. The Asian tigers of Japan, South Korea and Hong Kong got to where they are today because of the sciences.

pocohantas:


Wetin dey itch your body this hot afternoon? Lmao! OP’s question is a nice one. I have also thought about it, because I wondered if I have to be in Healthcare or STEM generally, irrespective of my passion.

PROBABLY, if you want to increase your chances then you have to be in Healthcare or STEM to get a job abroad (UK, Canada, Australia and US) because those jobs are considered as difficult / complicated and the citizens don't want complicated jobs.

That's why i maintain that those that have good jobs that flow with their passion don't know what God has done for them.

Just imagine of my passion was twerking, God thank you oh.

truthsayer009:


PROBABLY, if you want to increase your chances then you have to be in Healthcare or STEM to get a job abroad (UK, Canada, Australia and US) because those jobs are considered as difficult / complicated and the citizens don't want complicated jobs.

That's why i maintain that those that have good jobs that flow with their passion don't know what God has done for them.

Just imagine of my passion was twerking, God thank you oh.

Lol. If your passion was twerking and you twerk good, you may have a house in Lekki now. Seems you don’t know what your brothers do for ukwu.

Yes @ probably. Had this discussion yesterday, but if I have to make such decision, I would stick to my field. Maybe take whatever certification is required of me there and branch off to Auditing...

BigDawsNet:
Especially IT

Two reasons

IT is the present
IT is the future

We need IT in Medicine
Entertainment
Banking Industries
Engineering
Agriculture

I will always advice a high school graduate to consider that career...

Move here with the skills and you will never regret it...

Goodluck

Examples of IT courses you will recommend abeg

tensazangetsu20:

With law, you would need to go back to law school. English teaching works provided you get certified and target non-english speaking nations but it still does not pay as much as the sciences.

can you shed some light? I can teach both english n french

mofedamijo:
Don't let anyone deceive you, every aspect of you is highly needed in the society.
We have sales guys who make more money than IT guys in the u.s. Go for courses in areas where they have limited people.

1) Pharmaceutical Sales man does not need a science degree. If you know what you're doing, you will make six figures in the u.s of A easily.

2)Social Workers Earn good too.

3) Teachers make good living.

4) Retail Supervisors.

5) Logistics companies need you too. A friend got a USPS job for $50 an hour in the u.s just last year.

Stop reading on all this science whatever. Focus on what you can offer.

The good thing with been in the Art is that you're versatile and can't be boxed in a corner. You can do any Job in any organisation. STEM jobs might pay well, but the competition is crazy especially if you're from Africa. The Chinese and Indians will beat you to it, especially IT related jobs.

Thats why you as an Art, social science or Education or management guy can go from admin jobs to property management, property development, supervisors, social worker, teacher, social research, hospital management/administration, fleet supervisor..... The list is endless.

Secondly, the u.s doesn't care much about your degree, if the job doesn't come quickly, do a four month - six month courses in the job you would love to do. Times and things have changed. We now see nurses in America working as teachers because they got fed up.


For the record, the best guys in engineering in the u.s do not have a degree, that is fact. They have experience. You see that you engineering certificate and stem certificate you keep pampering, it will be useless when you get to the u.s, because your boss is not interested in that. He wants to know what equipment and jobs you have handled. If you lie, you will be caught on the job.

Petroleum engineers, aircraft engineers, construction engineers and the rest are the high paying ones, guess what, those guya don't have a degree but wealth of experience.

You will find a Nigerian who studied English, gets to the u.s, and start working as a caregiver. He makes money, go to nursing school while still working, get his/her cert. And within 4-5years, he is a registered nurse.

Things have changed. 4years might look far, but ask yourself, have you achieved alot in the last 4years? The truth is, any society that gives you a job while you're building yourself is the best place to be and that is what makes Canada and America stand out.
You can be working and studying and have a nice car, a decent home and a decent savings. Enjoy basic amenities and have a future. This is where Nigeria sucks horribly.

When you travel out, Get a decent job, get certified in the areas you would love to get that high paying job and forget about this STEM thing.

What of those studying sociology ?
What can one do with the course sociology.

What do one needs if he/she wants to go into the field of designing like
designing of houses ,
Designing of cars ??