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| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by shegzhkn: 4:59pm On Feb 24, 2021 |
tosinhtml:HS, i wanted to pull the big gun too and find out about the big guy but the dark lord said to me 'Hell No' . |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by vioment: 5:09pm On Feb 24, 2021 |
Nice one op. From my point of view, it is nice to learn five languages For me, html, css, JavaScript, c++, and c#; then something like GO programming and mysql. C++ for dope applications and electronics programming. |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by Karleb(m): 5:42pm On Feb 24, 2021 |
tosinhtml:@cixak95211 Come and say something |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by alcuin(m): 6:06pm On Feb 24, 2021 |
This thread is full of trash. But I cannot explain. To each his own. Peace. |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by Coach1: 6:30pm On Feb 24, 2021 |
spartan117:I stopped reading when I noticed his ignorance. People will be typing nonsense just because they have data and praise singers. I recently deployed an app for a bank. Stack was NodeJs, Angular, MongoDb. |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by TheManOfTheYear: 6:41pm On Feb 24, 2021 |
tensazangetsu20:Beautiful piece. I agree with all you stated but however we should also look out for the technologies that would definitely be making waves in the near future.. It's all about good discerning. |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by tensazangetsu20(op): 6:42pm On Feb 24, 2021 |
TheManOfTheYear:Yes true. Sexy tech is good. Once you start with the boring stuff and gain some experience like 3 years experience you can move on to the sexy stuff. Beginning and breaking in with sexy stuff hard die. |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by Nobody: 7:18pm On Feb 24, 2021 |
tosinhtml:Just imagine . And he was here wishing fellow man's parent dead. |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by jelel6: 7:31pm On Feb 24, 2021 |
qtguru:I thought he provided solutions to some of your pain points? Hey, there are many tools for every problems nowadays, you just have to find the right tool to THAT WAS DESIGNED FOR THAT PROBLEM. If MongoBd is not the best fit for your case problem, ditch it and used SQL or whatever tool you think is best. They are very different and meant to solve distinct problems. Enceladus is right , React not being opinionated is a pain point, at Interswitch 7 React Developers all write differently, one uses Saga thunk, the other uses another store management, then some Functional and some Class Approach, Vue and Svelte are one of those frameworks where you focus on the work than the engineering. Working on complex projects will expose all the pain points.The @bolded is why I decided to quote you... There are many reasons why React is the most popular and demanded front-end framework today. And one of the chief reason for that is the fact that it is NOT OPINIONATED Hence, some of the best libraries and tools are built with the confidence that it is going to work seamlessly with React. The React ecosystem is as strong as it is because of its extra simplicity and flexibility. Not everybody likes to be boxed with what should be or shouldn't be done or used. Now, to address your real pain with the React approach and the example you gave with Interswitch, I get your point 100%. React unboxed nature makes it easier to get into bad engineering practices. If what you alleged is happening at Interswitch is indeed true, let's call it what it is: Bad Software Engineering Practices. Don't blame it on React. I'm sure VueJs can also be paired with external State Management. If people can both use several states' management system for their part of the codebase using React because a company allows it, then they can and will do the same even if they use VueJs or Svelte or whatever. Honestly, I struggle to believe that a company like Interswitch can possibly have Mobx, Redux, or ContextAPI hooks on the same codebase. |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by jelel6: 7:48pm On Feb 24, 2021 |
Overall, I commend the OP's attempt at providing some clarity to fellow developers and upcoming enthusiasts. There are a lot of good advice and nice things I can relate with and possibly recommend too. The times I've come across the OP's moniker (that name is not hard to miss), he's made much sense than not and a few controversial points are expected from time to time. So, I would love for the author to review this write-up and decide if needed adjustments to some controversial points and issues people have highlighted should, in fact, be made. Because I'm not sure it's harmless to anybody reading it as first or only advice on the subject. |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by qtguru(m): 7:49pm On Feb 24, 2021 |
jelel6:Nothing wrong with MongoDb, but I am using it in a project that has been enforced against my will, you know how things are , when you inherit projects. That is true with React, not react's fault but React stands on it's own unlike Vue which has a suggested store to use and built by them, it's easier to lean into VueX than thinking of which Store to learn, if you get my drift. |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by Enceladus(m): 8:03pm On Feb 24, 2021 |
[quote author=spartan117 post=99384719][/quote] Don't talk like an ignoramus.This first bit cracks me up lol . That is what op and every body is saying- donot follow trend !! Is mongoose not an anti-pattern to a DB that has Schema less as it's main selling point? Like why use NoSql and suffer extra pain when SQL has got you covered? Node JS thrives in data intensive applications not CPU intensive applications. If you have to build a CPU intensive app do it in another language not in node. But node is much faster and out performs languages like php for data intensive apps. So know when to use each instead of shunning one out of ignorance.I have got nothing against node really for IO websites. And I will admit I was too quick to put it to the sword earlier. ![]() Thirdly React JS is still by far the most popular JavaScript library/framwork second only to JQuery and that's because of legacy code. And it still commands the most Job opportunities than the others.But that doesn't mean it's weakness are not there bro. Line 13 of the Zen of python says There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it. . And that is why I respect Rob Pike with the design of GoLang. React has Class/Functional Component wahala, Absolutely zero network handling capability, Routing, Redux, Thunk or Saga, Formiq or React Hook Form, fetch or axios or ky, Styled-Component or makeStyle and so on that I can keep mentioning. My advise to you is don't follow the crowd to shun any technology try to understand it and know when to use it. I don't shun stack but I don't like people jumping on hype train either. |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by Enceladus(m): 8:09pm On Feb 24, 2021 |
qtguru:I totally get you bros. I like a no nonsense language / framework with strict rules., every one is thinking the same way and using the same approach. |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by NEEDRIMA: 8:10pm On Feb 24, 2021 |
Nice write-up... What do you think about Golang for backend development? |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by bahkarrehjnr(m): 8:45pm On Feb 24, 2021 |
Hi everyone I just started learning about coding this week all by myself, I've downloaded videos concerning JavaScript, phyton, C++ from YouTube. Though I'm still learning about the JavaScript. For now I'm using apps like Grasshopper and Code academy. Hopefully I'll get a PC. What advice does anyone have for beginners like me? |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by spartan117(m): 8:52pm On Feb 24, 2021 |
Enceladus:You are still talking like a noob. If you don't know something go and do research and find out the advantages and disadvantages of using a nosql database with schema over an sql database. You are not more knowlegeable or more experienced than the people who built it. Save yourself from this ignorance. |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by Enceladus(m): 9:05pm On Feb 24, 2021 |
spartan117:el maestro keep playing that card ( very ridiculous by the way ) instead of giving a sound response to a constructive criticism. Naija my country ![]() |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by jelel6: 9:10pm On Feb 24, 2021 |
qtguru:As for the MongoDb, I really think you should used it with Mongoose as that guy suggested. It does enforce good practice that will streamline you, especially if you're working with a team. I do get your point. They are just different, Vue and React. They both have advantages over the other. At the end of the day, they are just tools. |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by spartan117(m): 9:53pm On Feb 24, 2021 |
Enceladus:Well I'll leave you to your methods since you don't want to learn ![]() Good day sir |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by maak400: 10:49pm On Feb 24, 2021 |
tensazangetsu20:I am a web designer with years of experience building websites with WordPress. I have created e-commerce, corporate, educational and many other types of website with WordPress. I work with a company in Lagos as their in-house web designer, and we use WordPress majorly for creating beautiful websites for our numerous clients. I'm looking for remote job to augment my daytime job, do you think there are foreign companies that offer remote jobs for skilled WordPress experts like me? I'm also planning to learn PHP because WordPress is built with PHP, what's your advice on that? Thanks. |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by itubaba001: 12:15am On Feb 25, 2021 |
nice writeup op. you just motivate me on my programming career. am a newbies |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by Etinosa1234: 1:42am On Feb 25, 2021 |
Studymore123:Is the 2k in naira or dollar |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by cixak95211: 3:53am On Feb 25, 2021*. Modified: 5:44am On Feb 25, 2021 |
Karleb:He said I got my first professional job at 2019. I wonder why he didn't paste the full profile. Was I hiding before. Ok here goes nothing.
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| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by Rossnitti: 3:56am On Feb 25, 2021 |
tensazangetsu20:Go fck yourself. If you gonna denigrate Nigeria to make your point, go and eat shiiit. Asswipe. |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by cixak95211: 3:57am On Feb 25, 2021 |
ClixMaster:I'd wish it over and over again a millie times. No regrets. |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by cixak95211: 3:58am On Feb 25, 2021*. Modified: 4:46am On Feb 25, 2021 |
tensazangetsu20:Yes 10 years, take that to the bank. I wrote my first ATM dummy application in May 2010 with Java. 2 years after I joined Nairaland in 2008. I only took it professionally circa 2015. That makes about 6 years . . If you doubt the numbers, you can as well lick a gun barrel. I posted git screenshots of me reviewing and approving and merging pull requests. where you currently work now, who reviews and approves and merges your PR and what is his position in relationship to yours? No matter how many times I say I just still cannot drum it into your thick skull. Your level of IQ is unfathomable, it pisses me off seriously. Prove me wrong: Become a Technical Lead or Team Lead in 4 years and I'll take all my words back. . . . |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by cixak95211: 4:08am On Feb 25, 2021 |
tosinhtml:Now let me reply to you properly. 1. I was not hiding, if not I wouldn't even paste screenshots. 2. Just hate revealing too much information until when necessary 3. I presume you did not only see Andela there but saw others you chose to ignore and ONLY posted what would suit your arguments. Shame on you. 4. A team lead is a team lead, be it under internship or not, what matters is that I have led people who I am very sure are way better engineers than the aggrieved tensazangetsu20. A tech lead is a tech lead, be it under internship or not. Shame on you once more. 5. I have been a Tech Lead for 2 years plus at a job, I know you saw that, but chose to ignore it once again to buttress your arguments. Shame on you. 6. Not one, not two, not even three lost their jobs at Andela, it is not a hidden story. If I would still be there by now, I doubt it. Highest I have spent at a job was 48 months (2 years) before it gets boring and I switch. So what the fuss were you trying to say? joke's on you fucker. Please come again loud and clear this time. |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by cixak95211: 4:12am On Feb 25, 2021 |
qtguru:Did I commit any crime that would make me go into hiding? I have a youtube channel, my face is everywhere on the internet if you dig just a bit deeper. Cheers. |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by cixak95211: 4:27am On Feb 25, 2021 |
Rossnitti:He has a pathetically low IQ. |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by qtguru(m): 5:14am On Feb 25, 2021 |
cixak95211:Wishing Death on people's parent and bashing that's not EPIC |
| Re: Why So Many Junior Developers Struggle To Get An Opportunity. by qtguru(m): 5:23am On Feb 25, 2021 |
cixak95211:Only Junior Engineers were let go not or non-billable engineers, because I still work there, insulting people is not a good choice, you can disagree and argue your points but being offensive is not a good virtue. Just a good advice for your own good. |
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. And he was here wishing fellow man's parent dead.
. That is what op and every body is saying- donot follow trend !! Is mongoose not an anti-pattern to a DB that has Schema less as it's main selling point? Like why use NoSql and suffer extra pain when SQL has got you covered? 