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Kobojunkie:
Again, Jesus Christ, the one you proclaim is Master told you, through a parable which He spoke to all those who will His disciples, how His servants are called to work in His field, including how everyone will get paid the exact at the end of the day, regardless of how long each worker worked in His vineyard. But one of The Master's servants offered you a different plan from the plan had laid out for all His servants in His teachings. Do you believe the Master's plan is the plan to believe in or do you believe His servants plan is the right choice for you?

According to Jesus Christ, He and He alone is the only Teacher, Master, Lord, Good Shepherd.over His flock. He even said that a servant can not be greater than his Master.

Instead of what you call heresies/fallacies, there are doctrines and traditions(commandments of men) of men which Jesus Christ said are lies that invalidate the power in the word of God, rendering meaningless our claimed worship of Him. Essentualy, if it is not His teaching, don't assume the opinion of man is of God.

You never cited us any tradition of men that any of the Apostles promoted. I am done with this discourse since you are not giving us substantial reasons why you said we should discard all epistles that the Holy Spirit inspired the Apostles to write. Do you even believe in the Eternal Godhead?

Moneyfem:
EMPOWERED FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES FOR A COMMON GOAL

Disciples such as Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were fully committed to secretarial/writing ministry while other unpopular ones(such as Andrew, Bartholomew, etc) were probably committed to welfare, security and other offices. Judas Iscariot was their Treasurer.

Peter was actively following Jesus closely to master core spiritual functions because he was to be the spiritual head after Jesus' ascension. We have not specifically read in the Bible that Matthew or Luke personally healed the sick or performed miracles but we know that they gave gospel accounts of Jesus' ministry. Luke also wrote The Acts of the Apostles. That means they were great instruments to Jesus. Not that Jesus didn't empower them to demonstrate power after his death but those guys just had to stick to their ministries to form a perfect team.

Stephen was a Deacon commissioned to be in charge of welfare. Stephen, despite being in charge of food and drinks, carried fire.

Everyone cannot be on the altar at the same time. When a pastor/prophet is on the altar, other firebrand brothers and sisters have to handle other important offices. To those currently endowed with great spiritual gifts such as miracles and healing, don't despise those who cannot openly demonstrate them as you do currently and don't conclude in your minds that they're not baptized of the Holy Spirit just because they cannot yet publicly demonstrate what you do. They may be too preoccupied with other church official duties just like Matthew, Mark and Luke. A modern-day example is an Usher who has to stand for most of the time of the service and has to take important records such as attendance, offerings, tithes, etc. Also, don't be bitter and depressed for that reason because hypertension and stroke are not far from people who are always depressed and bitter.

Happy Sunday!

Your first line....Im sure someone has corrected you. The desciples didn't write those gospels. Infact, the same "scribes and pharisees" that Jesus disliked wrote those things you now read.

Wake up, Christians, wake up! You were warned that you will be misled, by the hands of the very people who have misled you. How ironic!

The truth is coming...

Moneyfem:
You never cited us any tradition of men that any of the Apostles promoted. I am done with this discourse since you are not giving us substantial reasons why you said we should discard all epistles that the Holy Spirit inspired the Apostles to write. Do you even believe in the Eternal Godhead?

Jesus Christ warned against believing the doctrines of men over His own teachings... That is found there in Mark 7vs 1-16.

Yet again you dribble your way around answering the question asked... Are you certain I am the one given insufficient reasons here?

Eternal Godhead? LOL... Jesus Christ is the Eternal Life you receive when you believe in Him, Jesus Christ. Since He, Jesus Christ gave you His body to eat, He is the Head over His Body that is everyone who eats of Him. He alone is the Master over His Servants... There is no other Head over those who belong to Him.

RegalBeast:
Your first line....Im sure someone has corrected you. The desciples didn't write those gospels. Infact, the same "scribes and pharisees" that Jesus disliked wrote those things you now read.

Wake up, Christians, wake up! You were warned that you will be misled, by the hands of the very people who have misled you. How ironic!

The truth is coming...

Is it not funny that we bow down and worship a book and claim we worship God!

If only we could attempt to understand!

budaatum:
Is it not funny that we bow down and worship a book and claim we worship God!

If only we could attempt to understand!

Lol. Some of us already do. But others will have to play a little game of catch up- if they arent to cowed by their dogmatic beliefs.

RegalBeast:
Lol. Some of us already do. But others will have to play a little game of catch up- if they arent to cowed by their dogmatic beliefs.

Well, those who know better be prepared to work harder informing those who need to catch up. Because to whom more understanding is given, so much more teaching and doing and loving and humility and turning the other cheek etc is required.

May the Lord please give us the Grace and Strenght in Jesus Mighty Name.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ warned against believing the doctrines of men over His own teachings... That is found there in Mark 7vs 1-16.

Yet again you dribble your way around answering the question asked... Are you certain I am the one given insufficient reasons here?

Eternal Godhead? LOL... Jesus Christ is the Eternal Life you receive when you believe in Him, Jesus Christ. Since He, Jesus Christ gave you His body to eat, He is the Head over His Body that is everyone who eats of Him. He alone is the Master over His Servants... There is no other Head over those who belong to Him.

Brother, I'm talking about The Holy Trinity: God the Father(The Supreme Almighty God), the Son(Jesus Christ who was made flesh) and the Holy Spirit. They are all one God. Hope you will not say there is nothing like the Holy Trinity.

Moneyfem:
Brother, I'm talking about The Holy Trinity: God the Father(The Supreme Almighty God), the Son(Jesus Christ who was made flesh) and the Holy Spirit. They are all one God. Hope you will not say there is nothing like the Holy Trinity.

If you are asking if I believe in man's doctrines of Trinity, my answer is a resounding NO.

I instead in the description of who the Father, Jesus Christ and the Spirit is as told of by the Word of God Himself.

According to Jesus Christ Himself, He is the very Word out of God's mouth, made flesh(God's Avatar) come in fulfillment of God's promise of a New Agreement for those of the world He who believe in the one He sends.

budaatum:
Well, those who know better be prepared to work harder informing those who need to catch up. Because to whom more understanding is given, so much more teaching and doing and loving and humility and turning the other cheek etc is required.

May the Lord please give us the Grace and Strenght in Jesus Mighty Name.

Hmmm...I agree with you. But I wonder what you know. For there are those who think the know but only know what they want to know.

Who is God?

RegalBeast:
Hmmm...I agree with you. But I wonder what you know. For there are those who think the know but only know what they want to know.

That is true. I have faith that you will know by my fruits.

RegalBeast:
Who is God?

Lol, do you not start small!

Please know that this is a question that I too have asked here only to find that offering an answer is a work in progress and any attempt to answer it for others is burn in the hottest part of hell for you buda.

Basically, this question is way above my pay grade, and any attempt to answer it is idol and image creation and sin.

RegalBeast:
Who is God?

But hey, You are God!

For it is written "In as much as I have done for you whom God created in God's own image and whom I see before me, God in the Heavens whom I see not is pleased and worshipped".

Consider yourself a proxy.

budaatum:
That is true. I have faith that you will know by my fruits.



Lol, do you not start small!

Please know that this is a question that I too have asked here only to find that offering an answer is a work in progress and any attempt to answer it for others is burn in the hottest part of hell for you buda.

Basically, this question is way above my pay grade, and any attempt to answer it is idol and image creation and sin.

Interesting! I think your response here says a lot about your disposition; it is so far noble.

It's true that the answer to that question is above most people's pay grade. I too would have hit a wall if you asked me at January of 2019, for I knew it not. But as you are a seeker, the time approaches that you will know that answer logically- as some of us already do.

budaatum:
But hey, You are God!

For it is written "In as much as I have done for you whom God created in God's own image and whom I see before me, God in the Heavens whom I see not is pleased and worshipped".

Consider yourself a proxy.

Proxy is perfect. For indeed we represent God on earth. I have two questions for you:

1. What would you say is one quality that God desires the most?

2. You said earlier that it is the Job of those who know to teach those who don't. What would you say is the best approach to achieve that in this age?

RegalBeast:
Proxy is perfect. For indeed we represent God on earth. I have two questions for you:

1. What would you say is one quality that God desires the most?

Your questions are way above my paygrade, lol, as I can not enter into the mind of God and read it. So accept my speculation. Read it as what God requires of buda and accept it as a close guess.

Love one another! They that sayeth they are in the light and hateth another remaineth in darkness.
Human Rights

There is no greater requirement of buda.

RegalBeast:
2. You said earlier that it is the Job of those who know to teach those who don't. What would you say is the best approach to achieve that in this age?

Walk the talk.

As is written: In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.

But bear in mind that the blind can not see. So when they call you demon and stone you and threaten to crucify you, know that they can only hurt the body, and forgive them 7 times 70 times, for they know not what they are doing.

I hope you realise that you must from now on hold buda to the standard stated above or you must proclaim buda a hypocrite.

budaatum:
Your questions are way above my paygrade, lol, as I can not enter into the mind of God and read it. So accept my speculation. Read it as what God requires of buda and accept it as a close guess.

Love one another! They that sayeth they are in the light and hateth another remaineth in darkness.
Human Rights

There is no greater requirement of buda.



Walk the talk.

As is written: In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.

But bear in mind that the blind can not see. So when they call you demon and stone you and threaten to crucify you, know that they can only hurt the body, and forgive them 7 times 70 times, for they know not what they are doing.

I hope you realise that you must from now on hold buda to the standard stated above or you must proclaim buda a hypocrite.

Please enlighten me here: what is buda? Lol.

Also, here's a quick insight for you: the way you admit to not knowing, and if you are willing to learn, then you already know God's top quality. For the first step to kmowing God is humility

RegalBeast:
Please enlighten me here: what is buda? Lol.

buda is an entity who's full name is budaatum and who exists on Nairaland and a few other online places.

RegalBeast:
Also, here's a quick insight for you: the way you admit to not knowing, and if you are willing to learn, then you already know God's top quality. For the first step to knowing God is humility

As I said, hypocrite, if the talk is not walked.

budaatum:
buda is an entity who's full name is budaatum and who exists on Nairaland and a few other online places.


As I said, hypocrite, if the talk is not walked.

Lol.

"I believe that there is no god/God but Allah and Muhammad is His Prophet."

Care to expound?

Cos you seem torn between three versions of truth as of now

RegalBeast:
Lol.

"I believe that there is no god/God but Allah and Muhammad is His Prophet."

Care to expound?

Cos you seem torn between three versions of truth as of now

buda Torn "Three versions of truth" Where did you get all that from!?

buda would say "What is truth". But do know that buda does not do "belief", since to believe is to not know. If buda says "buda believes", it means, buda does not know because buda is ignorant.

As to your "torn between three versions", you can not count. For it is written:

Humans shall not live by bread alone or they shall be malnourished. Matthew 4:4

Because:

And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. John 21:25

And:

"If all the trees on earth were pens and the ocean ˹were ink˺, refilled by seven other oceans, the Words of Allah would not be exhausted. Surely Allah is Almighty, and Wise". Luqman 31:27

Please beware of assuming!

budaatum:
buda Torn "Three versions of truth" Where did you get all that from!?

buda would say "What is truth". But do know that buda does not do "belief", since to believe is to not know. If buda says "buda believes", it means, buda does not know because buda is ignorant.

As to your "torn between three versions", you can not count. For it is written:

Humans shall not live by bread alone or they shall be malnourished. Matthew 4:4

Because:

And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. John 21:25

And:

"If all the trees on earth were pens and the ocean ˹were ink˺, refilled by seven other oceans, the Words of Allah would not be exhausted. Surely Allah is Almighty, and Wise". Luqman 31:27

Please beware of assuming!

Errm...no assumptions on my end. And these things you quote are neither real quotations nor relevant to the points you are making. You might to leave quotes out and just express yourself

Now, I said you are torn between three truths because I have counted three different religions in your expressions. While I know that all religions are linked, I also know that one who truly knows the truth will not identify with any.

RegalBeast:
Errm...no assumptions on my end. And these things you quote are neither real quotations nor relevant to the points you are making. You might to leave quotes out and just express yourself

Now, I said you are torn between three truths because I have counted three different religions in your expressions. While I know that all religions are linked, I also know that one who truly knows the truth will not identify with any.

Only 3? Name them. Let's see the 3 you see.

The quotes are necessary, and are from the bav. You can not be choosing how or what I use to answer your questions, lol.

budaatum:
Only 3? Name them. Let's see the 3 you see.

The quotes are necessary, and are from the bav. You can not be choosing how or what I use to answer your questions, lol.

Christian, Islam, Buddhism.

You're right, I can't choose how you should respond. But I can tell you if your communication is getting though or not, since that is the point of any communication. So on that ground, I can tell you whether your quote is helpful or not.

That said, please enlighten me on this "bav"..what is it?

RegalBeast:
Christian, Islam, Buddhism.

I clap for you.

Atum is an Egyptian God. buda is also Yoruba, so add all the Gods of buda's fathers too. And Owala, a river on the edge of buda's land that feeds into the River Osun. But know that that list is not exclusive. buda does not live by a few loaves of bread but by all the words the Gods wrote that buda can get buda's hands on.

RegalBeast:
You're right, I can't choose how you should respond. But I can tell you if your communication is getting though or not, since that is the point of any communication. So on that ground, I can tell you whether your quote is helpful or not.

And that is why you must ask questions. Even about the answers to questions you have already asked and had answered. At least if you wish to know.

RegalBeast:
That said, please enlighten me on this "bav"..what is it?

buda's authorised version. It's full title is bavaubb

buda's authorised version as understood by buda

Only one copy exists, and it is in buda's head.

budaatum:
I clap for you.

Atum is an Egyptian God. buda is also Yoruba, so add all the Gods of buda's fathers too. And Owala, a river on the edge of buda's land that feeds into the River Osun. But know that that list is not exclusive. buda does not live by a few loaves of bread but by all the words the Gods wrote that buda can get buda's hands on.


And that is why you must ask questions. Even about the answers to questions you have already asked and had answered. At least if you wish to know.


buda's authorised version. It's full title is bavaubb

buda's authorised version as understood by buda

Only one copy exists, and it is in buda's head.

Lol. Clap for yourself!

I thought as much. Those quotes are like reading the bible- random!

Yes I agree that wisdom comes to the open minded. Even Jesus was very curious about the other religions of the world. Tho this is not recorded in the bible- hence why most Christians think it is okay to be narrow minded.

RegalBeast:
Lol. Clap for yourself!

I thought as much. Those quotes are like reading the bible- random!

Random? Like jumping around in the Bible?

Do you know that randomly jumping around is how most read their Bible, and such reading is the main reason most don't understand what they read? I rather recommend one read the Bible from the beginning and turn page to the end, instead of jumping around randomly. It is advice I have taken on myself for the third time.

RegalBeast:
Yes I agree that wisdom comes to the open minded. Even Jesus was very curious about the other religions of the world. Tho this is not recorded in the bible- hence why most Christians think it is okay to be narrow minded.

I would say it is in the Bible that one must be open minded with the guidance of tbe Holy Spirit.

"Out of Egypt I called my Son" is, for instance, one of the many clues to open ones mind in that direction, and "Humans must not live by bread alone", is another pointer to patronize different bakeries.

Narrow minded people are emulating the narrow minded Pharisees who refused to open their minds like a questioning child would and enter their mother's womb to be born again, which I am informed is as difficult as threading a needle through a camel's eye but not impossible.

budaatum:
Random? Like jumping around in the Bible?

Do you know that randomly jumping around is how most read their Bible, and such reading is the main reason most don't understand what they read? I rather recommend one read the Bible from the beginning and turn page to the end, instead of jumping around randomly. It is advice I have taken on myself for the third time.



I would say it is in the Bible that one must be open minded with the guidance of tbe Holy Spirit.

"Out of Egypt I called my Son" is, for instance, one of the many clues to open ones mind in that direction, and "Humans must not live by bread alone", is another pointer to patronize different bakeries.

Narrow minded people are emulating the narrow minded Pharisees who refused to open their minds like a questioning child would and enter their mother's womb to be born again, which I am informed is as difficult as threading a needle through a camel's eye but not impossible.

Hey! Sorry this reply took forever. I got caught up in life matters and forgot until I accidentally opened this site today. You know what, if you like we can chat on a better platform like WhatsApp. There's some interesting info Im considering introducing you to but not right now. Let me know.

RegalBeast:
Hey! Sorry this reply took forever. I got caught up in life matters and forgot until I accidentally opened this site today. You know what, if you like we can chat on a better platform like WhatsApp. There's some interesting info Im considering introducing you to but not right now. Let me know.

You can get my email address from my profile, but do know that I would rather you post what you want to introduce me to here.

budaatum:
You can get my email address from my profile, but do know that I would rather you post what you want to introduce me to here.

Well, do know that it is a gift and not one that I would randomly give to anyone or post anywhere.

Secondly, my suggestion to chat elsewhere is ONLY because of my inconsistency here. I felt like perhaps there are things to learn back and forth, but if you feel otherwise then of course it is no obligation or necessity. I'll try to reply here when I can.