₦airaland Forum

IamANigerianMan:
You talk like a stupid person, how much is your personal income in NIGERIA... If America is paying $10m in a month your tax is $9.7m.... No where in the world the price of the product depend on the minimum wage, what of people who are not working.. what government owns her provide security, social amenities like good road etc for everybody to grow... Things are cheap in Nigeria

chai it's a pity how you're spreading stupidity and ignorance.

You APC cows just say anything that comes to your empty head that sweets your mouth to say intending to fool people. Even if it makes no iota of sense.

IamANigerianMan:
Lie lie man, how can 1 litre of Fuel be N52? If that is the case let import it from Libya now... The funnest of your story is that Libya don't use Naira

of course it's a lie because it hasn't been approved by APC lying chairman.

We APC cows hate stats and proves because it'll debunk our lies. We love to spread foolishness and stupidity.

IamANigerianMan:
Nigeria has the cheapest litre of Fuel in Africa, you never travel pass Lagos before, one bottle of water is N600 equivalent in Egypt, N500 in Rwanda close your mouth... Thing cheap in Nigeria compare to other countries...

lies APC lying machinery. Fuel is over cheap N50 in Libya as we speak. Electricity is cheap in Egypt N30. And food is cheaper in Rwanda than Nigeria.

Nothing is cheap in Nigeria. It's over expensive.

IamANigerianMan:
Oga, do business ooh, if you get money the sweetest place to live is Nigeria... From time to time travel to some African countries like Morocco, Egypt etc they are like Europe.. oga Nigeria sweet if you get money, everything is cheap in Nigeria

everythings cheap yet fuel is 1200, bag of rice is 100k, light is 250 per unit. My friend go and sleep.

Sweetest place to live in Darkness, insecurity, and pollution. Nigeria is the sweetest stupidest country on earth. Nonsense

Goodboy2000:
I have been contemplating whether to proceed with my Japa plans with N8m and which country can I travel to ?

Or

Should I just start up foods stuffs business here In Nigeria?

rub away from Nigeria faster than your legs can carry you

Lithiumite:
An imbecilic whelp like yourself can't decipher not paying enough taxes isn't same as not paying taxes at all, something as basic as this is too difficult for you to comprehend.

idiiot, how much are we supposed to pay before ? A country that has the lowest minimum wage and it's citizens are in darkness (worst mw/h per person) in electricity.

Say it how much is enough for a greedy govt that does nothing for it's citizens.

Even USA is just 16%. China is 11%. Kenya is 7%. But 10% is not enough for a govt raping it's citizens left and right.

One day all you Apc supporter will be shot dead for defending suffering and gas lighting people. I will personally pull the trigger.

Proudlyngwa:
Do you know what Giant of Africa means or you just want to insult yourself

go and sleep. I don't have time for stupidity.

Proudlyngwa:
Nigeria is the giant of Africa
Deal with that

If you don't know why Nigeria is the giant of Africa, ask instead of embarrassing yourself

yes giant of hunger, starvation and corruption. Even Benin Republic is better than Nigeria. Nonsense

Lithiumite:
You inredeemable fool.....if 10% is paying taxes out of a 100... What does that tell you.

I have seen people do business worth tens of millions without paying a dime to govt.....every body knows we don't pay enough taxes here in Nigeria that's why govt can choose to damn the consequences against your grievances because govt isn't dependent on your tax.

yes 10% before it was zero taxes you claimed. And why will people pay doing their business pay tax? You don't even know how taxes work. And yet you're here spreading stupidity.

You think govt is supposed to knock on peoples door to ask for tax. ? Go read online the difference types of tax and how the govt collects it and stop spreading foolishness here.

Lithiumite:
You inredeemable fool!! If 10 people are paying taxes out of a 100 that should,what does that tell you?

With a country of 200m people,juxtapose our personal income tax receipts with that of Kenya or SA.

The argument is that our tax net isn't broad enough and we need to do that,I believe that's beyond your cognitive ability.

Your Brain will be better off with organ harvesters because you can't even use it.

You don't pay tax in Nigeria they deduct it. And they don't give any receipt to you.


So they can hire nicampooops like you to gaslight the public into believing they don't pay tax.

Each time you deposit money In the bank they deduct vat,

make a call they deduct vat,

if you receive salary from the govt or any organisation into the bank they deduct their PAYE

buy any imported goods and you pay extra for custom duties.

Paying tax isnt by choice but by force. It's incorporated into everything and you can't escape it.

CommonSense1967:
Go and calculate Nigeria's percipita under JOnna, they will be about the same as right now.

You are mixing GDP with per capita, 2 different things.

lies Nigeria gdp per capita was highest in 2014 at almost $4k now it's less than $1000. And now we're ranked below Ethiopia, Ghana, Angola.

drstranged:
One drawback of the GDP is that it's dependent on a country's population. So the higher a country's population the likely lower the GDP per capita and vice versa. That's what plays out in Seychelles and other smaller countries over there in the list which have populations in only hundreds of thousands compared to Nigeria which has over 200million population

but the higher the population the higher the overall gdp. Population is correlated with Gdp. That's why gdp per capita is the best way of measuring wealth. It measures how much each person is entitled to either from earnings or govt benefits. And In Nigeria case it's too low. Less than $100 per month for each person. What a stinking poor country!

Putinofrussia:
True to per capita which deals with population.
There are a lot of countries richer than USA using GDP per capita but if it is real GDP,USA leads followed by China.

USA is rich but bot the richest country in the world. Those countries with greater GDP per capita are richer. Gdp is like income without considering profits. Gdp per capita is profits. So UK is richer than china despite having lower GDP. Mind you you must not be rich to enjoy a good standard of life. China being poor still have high of living.

iLoveYouToo:
It’s you who should find shame. Google India’s GDP per capita in comparison to Seychelles and Nigeria. We all share in this malaise, as you stated, our largely unproductive population is responsible for this. The fact that I stated the obvious doesn’t imply that Nigeria is in the best place.

The question should be does it really mean Seychelles is richer than India, China and Nigeria?

GDP per capita isn’t the best metric for measuring the wealth of a nation

Lagos state is richer than Seychelles

see this fuool. Data shows Seychelles is richer than Nigeria. And your talking about lagos. Even 10 Nigeria not richer than one Seychelles.

Seychelles is richer than china, which is richer than India which is richer than Nigeria.

You semi illiterates think pollution and overcrowding, and noise making Is equal to riches

Lithiumite:
The joke is on you,you and your myopic ilk....Did you in anyway bother to even read the data you put up there......what's China's population compared to ours,what's the compliance rate compared to ours,did you even bother to compare the VAT rates which has just gotten jacked up to 7.5% as it had always been 5%,the progressive tax at the top is still way higher than ours.

you're extremely stuppid didn't you claim we don't pay taxes now you've quickly changed mouth and now talking of compliance rate.

Look at the business/cooperative taxes at 20%. That's too much For a country where nothing is subsided. The end customer me and you are paying for those taxes in high cost. Keep fooling yourself.

IAM very sure you are collecting 20k as salary and here defending rubbish.

InvertedHammer:
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Nigeria is like a man with 20 kids who earns N200k a month bragging that he is richer than a man with only 2 kids who earns N70k/month. GDP per capita tells all the stories.

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this is not about kids . Most of you here are just too dull. Gdp measures productivity. It shows there is less money flowing in the economy. South Africa with 50million has doubles your overall GDP.

Lithiumite:
You people will keep comparing apples and oranges by only picking out the narrative that best soothes your despicable inebriated self debasing ego.

Electricity prices per kWh in china is about 7 cents which brings you to about 119 naira but it would be downright criminal to refuse to mention how much subsidy the govt pays in electricity subsidy and how much tax the Chinese pay to their govts.

You delusional deliquent isn't paying any tax in your own country but expect govt to provide everything free.....

You call a student loan that was just launched barely 6 months ago as useless despite already doing about 100b in funds and their are already testimonies to its effectiveness......you are nothing but a preposterously incorrigible empty head.....did America get where they are today in a year or
2.....can you live in same America and get away with your brazen disregard of your basic civic responsibility of paying taxes.

nonsense. you're looking for praises for a useless political student loan that won't last a year

Imagine students being sent 20k for upkeep. And you're here rejoicing whereas Kenya sends $300 for upkeep.

Once you see you're been defeated you'll start trying to gaslight about taxes. We don't pay taxes blalblah blah...yet our tax income per year is over 20billion.

In essence Nigerians pay more for everything, pay high taxes and get nothing back from the govt except stealing and more gaslighting.

People like you ought to be destroyed with the bad leaders you're defending. Yes you'll deserved to be wiped out. You've turned this country into the worst country on earth. Kia!

Lithiumite:
You people will keep comparing apples and oranges by only picking out the narrative that best soothes your despicable inebriated self debasing ego.

Electricity prices per kWh in china is about 7 cents which brings you to about 119 naira but it would be downright criminal to refuse to mention how much subsidy the govt pays in electricity subsidy and how much tax the Chinese pay to their govts.

You delusional deliquent isn't paying any tax in your own country but expect govt to provide everything free.....

You call a student loan that was just launched barely 6 months ago as useless despite already doing about 100b in funds and their are already testimonies to its effectiveness......you are nothing but a preposterously incorrigible empty head.....did America get where they are today in a year or
2.....can you live in same America and get away with your brazen disregard of your basic civic responsibility of paying taxes.

youre still saying we dont pay taxes in Nigeria. Typical APC sympathetic phrase meant to gaslight people.

Seems you want me to curse you.

We pay very similar tax rates with china who have 100x our GDP and pay more for everything than china, and you're here defending it.

Yet the govt provide nothing for the poor people it's taxing. No free feeding, no free health care. Can't even provide security, no social welfare.

Should I also mention the minimum wages?

Lithiumite:
Selective amnesia as usual.....its so obvious how unintelligent you are for saying electricity is cheaper in the advanced countries

hasn't tinubu launched same student loans you are worshipping those advanced countries for.....rather than appreciate him and urge him to do more,you start castigating him.

Are you aware govt is still paying subsidy on the electricity you use.....those countries you are praising for subsidising basic necessities for their citizens,are you aware how much tax they pay.....govt is trying to initiate tax reforms and it's still same you procrastinating and crying blue murder on how tinubu wants to tax you to death when infact you aren't even paying any tax whatsoever.

It's easier to criticise but very difficult for you to think of how to make things better.

[/quote]typical frog eye supporter defending stupidity as usual.

Have you checked how much electric bill is in china ? N18 in china compared to N250 per unit in Nigeria.

And for the new launched student loan. That is a complete joke. what is the amount loan given to students.? Plus it's not even up to 6 months. Lol.

Student loan in the US reach N50 million or $30k per year.

Poor people in Us get free food from govt and monthly $800 free benefits.
Plus many other credit benefits. You can never go hungry there.

In essence all basic things are cheap, if they're not govt pays, subsides it, or loan it

But in Nigeria it's the reverse.

even the middle class can't feed Themselves. And yet they still spend all their salaries on bills and taxes with no govt support.

And don't quote me saying no tax in Nigeria. That's the biggest gaslighting ever!

almost Every country in the world pay taxes including Nigeria.

Lithiumite:
Go abroad where electricity is free nah!! You are the reason why many tertiary institutions can't pay their energy bills till date because you were all used to and felt entitled to everything free without wanting to pay that's why everything govt is comatose......if you had been paying what was due and fair,we still wouldn't be complaining about power outages today.

Education is one of the cheapest in Nigeria that's the problem that govt has been having with doctors who train here for almost free and then take their expertise abroad to benefit another society in the name of greener pastures,which ever side you decide to look at it,they both have a point.

You want govt to provide petrol, education,health,jobs,free roads etc but don't ever want to pay tax.

keep quiet, nothing is free or cheap in Nigeria. electricity is cheaper in advanced countries Singapore and china is way higher than in Nigeria.

What you call cheap education is just the entire school cost broken down to give illusion you're paying less. After paying tuition fees you'll still pay hostel, feeding, and buy materials.

Most of you here are very ignorant. No country goes far without subsiding basic necceistiy of life for it's citizens.

As rich as USA it still pays subsidy on fuel, offer long term students loans, and gives many social benefits and credit to it's Citizens.

But you guys want to kill Nigerians with billing without any cushioning effect and have audacity to gaslight them they're not paying enough.

nairalanda1:
And then it costs money to make electricity

Just as it costs dowry to make baby

you're a big fuuuuuul. It's a pity I was born in the same country as lots with animalistic brain. Chai.

nairalanda1:
Screaming at me doesn't change facts.

which facts does an APC paid loyalist know? Mention one country where citizens pay 250/unit in the entire and still in darkness and I'll dash you 20k.

You even have the gods to say light is too cheap. Blocked head like you.

nairalanda1:
And you think the same problems are not in ivory coast?

You want cheap power, so enjoy what you paid for. When you are ready to pay for 24/7 power, you and all your countrymen irrespective of party, religion, belief, etc.....then you will get it.

And calling me agbado and insensitive does not change the fact...

so that means we're paying for 24/7 darkness that's what you mean? It's a pity people still collect money to defend this evil govt.

nairalanda1:
So, how do you think the refineries and the power sector depreciated over the years?

It was because at the end of the day, all of us were not paying market price for both the petrol we consumed and the power we consumed.

(Oga, I am going to have to ask you to forget politics, forget APC vs PDP. I am not here to defend tinubu, atiku, or anyone here. I am not here to defend evil or inefficency. This is the result of ten years of reading around the thing).

Right now power costs N160-70 to make one kwh. Except for Band A consumers who pay at least N200 and above, most consumers pay below N100. Add the fact that about 40% of Nigerians are not paying for the power they use...whether they get it for 24 hours a day, or 6 hours a day.

And add the fact that the problem has been going on for decades. Add the fact that since 1980, in the name of electrifiying Nigeria, hundereds of rural communites who cannot afford to pay for power, even at discounted rate, have been connected to the grid...overloading it and causing issues.


IN 2004-6, i was a student living off campus in a residence where there were 30 students from university and a poly. Of the 30 of us, only 6 were paying electricity bills regularly. SIX. Me inclusive. It was not like I had the money.

And with attitudes like this youe xpect there to be light? You expect there to be enough money for discos and gencos to buy poles , transformers, wires? Or na by magic dem go find the money?


I have been shouting this on this site, and all people can do is get abusive, because I am insensntive?


WOULD YOU WORK HARD IF YOUR BOSS PAID YOU ONE QUARTER YOUR SALARY FROM NEXT MONTH, AND KEPT DOING IT.?


And all the corruption you yap about is as a result of the massive underpaying we do to our power sector. LIke estimated billing...it is done by discos to rip off their consumers because if they don't do it, they would collapse financailly.

Infact shoot, 3 of them have already collapsed. Debts. One even declared force maejure.

Meanwhiile there is light 24/7 in other countries...because they pay market price for power. Yes even in Ivory coast which has all the problems NIgeria has...corruption , looting leaders, tribal divisions, etc. But because they properly privatised....they have light.



Yet pointing all this out means I must be agbado.


NIgerians keep on living in denial.

Youre a liar apc lieing machine. light is currently more expensive in Nigeria than Cote divorce. And nothing like band in Nigeria. Everyone is paying same rate.

How many times are you going to lie on this same thing on this place.? You better tell us the truth you're been paid 25k to promote lies Instead of all this shit.

erico2k2:
If nor be say you are using 50Kphone U would have been able to decode that I live abroad, ofcos your cheap phone cannot navigate peoples profile and previous post. People like you are stuck in ur lil village and do not venture out so you do not appreciate the little you have in Nigeria.

of course you're not in Nigeria. I know that all apc loyalist are never in Nigeria.

They're ashamed of the country they're defending. They're all paid mere 20k to defend the govt. You don't have to tell me..

And I understand your ashamed being an e-rat for a country not up to Ghana and Benin R levels. It's a complete shame.


But unfortunately all APC supporters are shameless so they don't care.

Is like claiming to love shit so much but closing your nose from the smell.

sums up all APC e-rat noise noisemakers including you.

nairalanda1:
From the Nig National Grid at twitter



Sauce

TOTAL NO so far this year...8

For comparison there were 22 grid collapses in 2010, and in 2016.

rest the year isnt finished yet. That number will be way higher with the way it's falling every week.

Besides what of the vandalisms that happened in the north. Never happened before. We pay more for light now.

You guys will always compare yourself to the worse of others as ab excuse to keep getting worse. You dont even compare yourself to the average but the worse. Kia

What a country

nairalanda1:
Being angry about a cold hard fact doesn't help you.

facts that can't be proved except by an APC 20k nairaland noisemaker

lamentor78:
You are dumb, why don't you go to Afghanistan or Iran, if a man says he wants his country to be great again is it a crime, leave American for Americans and build your own country, China today was backwards many years again , Dubai was backward too, but they love their country and build it.

Any African relocating abroad and staying there for long is an enemy of his home country, Americans, British,Indians , Chinese will never leave their country and build any African country.

Get sense and build your homeland for the sake of your children and children children

hello China and Dubai was never backwards like Nigeria. China has always been china, because they don't entertain leaders

Talking about building the country start from your celebrities and politicians who all have dual citizenships. Dumasss.

erico2k2:
ahaha N20k, lol No wonder ur brain is reasoning at candle light capacity, One of the tyres of my car will feed your whole family and xtended family for one Month you are talking 20K, boy go play with your mates
20K,
The reason you don't see the good out of Nigeria is cos you live in one dead bit village, travel out and see what Nigerians do to promote teh Nigerian brand,

sharap you're just a 20k paid apc pro noisemaker.

Wait so you're now claiming to be abroad ?. You're not even proud of the country you're been paid to defend. Shame on you

erico2k2:
I dont think you realize I live in an environment where there is 24/7 electricity .I been to Ghana suburb too where there was massive power cut, you are talking l ike a 20yr old who ear drop to his old fathers conversation from the palmwine bar.in Nigeria there are loads of places with 24 hours electricity.

24/7 light in electricity You think light referred to here is sun and moon. Haha

erico2k2:
so yoiu think a 2kva solar set up is cheaper than National grid? guy that white stuff in ur life is certainly found its way into you brain.

same brain has far more iq than your pap filled brain

nairalanda1:
Well, it is expensive, son

Shut up you've used this phrase more than 100 times. You cant claim what you can't provide is expensive. typical apc paid e-rat