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Tolumiide:After debunking whatever you came up with, this is your defence? Brother, stop worshipping the west. Now, let me show you what Iran has done for her neighbours in time past : Here are the strongest, evidence-based examples. 1) Iran backed Kuwait’s sovereignty in 1990 During the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait: Iran condemned Iraq’s invasion immediately It supported UN sanctions against Iraq It viewed Saddam’s move as a threat to all Gulf states, including itself This is not minor. At that time: Iran had just fought an 8-year war with Iraq It could have stayed neutral or even exploited Kuwait Instead, Iran aligned with Gulf states against Iraq’s expansion. Blunt truth: Iran didn’t send troops, but politically, it was on the same side as Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. 2) Iran proposed regional security without foreign powers The Hormuz Peace Initiative: Called for joint Gulf security by regional countries Explicitly rejected dependence on the U.S. or external forces Aimed to secure shipping lanes and reduce conflict From Iran’s view: Foreign military presence creates instability Gulf countries should rely on each other instead You may call this self-serving, but it is still a framework for collective protection. 3) Iran helped Qatar during the 2017 blockade When Qatar was isolated by Saudi Arabia, UAE, and others: Iran kept airspace open It supplied food and trade routes Helped Qatar avoid economic shock That’s not military protection, but it prevented: economic collapse internal instability From Qatar’s perspective, that was real support when neighbors turned hostile. 4) Iran maintained stabilizing ties with Oman Oman is the exception in the Gulf: Iran and Oman maintain consistent cooperation Iran supplies gas and supports economic stability Oman often acts as a mediator between Iran and Gulf states This relationship has helped: reduce tensions in the Strait of Hormuz prevent escalation spillovers Not flashy, but strategically important. 5) Iran occasionally aligned with Gulf interests against chaos There are moments where interests overlapped: Opposition to Saddam’s regional expansion (1990) Concern about extremist instability in Iraq post-2003 Quiet coordination through intermediaries at times These are not alliances, but situational convergence. What you won’t find (and why) Why? Because Iran’s strategy is different: It plays asymmetric power, not conventional defense It builds influence through proxies and leverage Gulf monarchies often see it as a threat, not a partner |
zegxy:You mean the Saudis that couldn't even deal with the Houthis without the help of the US? This is no longer the era of hyping countries, Iran just showed the world that hyping wins no war. |
INJESUSNAME:Answer this simple question : You have 2 strangers trying to destroy you but they can't attack you well enough because they're far from you, so they decided to do that from your neighbors compound. What should you do to those neighbours who allowed them to set up camp in their compounds to attack you from? (A) Buy them roses (B) Sing them a Christmas song (C) Attack both your neighbors and the camp of the strangers within your neighbor's compound. |
Tolumiide:This response here is from AI which is even a western tool, so read and get real education, not the propoganda you've been fed from childhood through movies, news and especially Holywood. 1) “Iran attacked any tankers on sight” during the Tanker War That framing is blunt and misleading. First, context matters. This phase sits inside the Iran–Iraq War, where Iran was fighting for survival against Iraq, backed financially and politically by Gulf states like Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. From Iran’s perspective: Kuwait was not neutral. It funded Iraq and allowed its ports to be used for Iraqi oil exports. Tankers linked to Kuwait or Iraq were seen as part of Iraq’s war logistics. Disrupting oil exports was a strategic move to weaken Iraq’s war capacity. So Iran did not attack “any tanker on sight.” It targeted: Tankers tied to Iraq’s economy Ships serving states actively supporting Iraq Meanwhile, Iraq had already started attacking Iranian shipping earlier. Iran’s actions were largely retaliatory escalation, not the origin. Now look at Operation Earnest Will: The U.S. reflagged Kuwaiti tankers as American to justify military escort. That effectively inserted the U.S. into the war on one side. From Iran’s view, this turned neutral shipping lanes into militarized zones. So the counter-argument is simple: Iran wasn’t acting irrationally. It was applying economic warfare against states financing its enemy. The “attacking random tankers” narrative ignores who those tankers served and why they became targets. 2) “Only the U.S. responded” leading to Operation Nimble Archer This claim is also incomplete. Yes, Gulf monarchies sought protection. But saying “only the U.S. responded” hides key realities: 1) Others were involved, just less aggressively The Soviet Union also engaged in tanker escort arrangements. European powers increased naval presence, though more cautiously. The U.S. stood out because it chose escalation, not because it was alone. 2) U.S. actions were not neutral “protection” Operation Nimble Archer was not defensive escort. It was a direct strike on Iranian oil platforms. The U.S. justified it as retaliation for mining incidents. Iran saw it as an act of war siding with Iraq and Gulf states. From a non-Western lens: The U.S. was protecting oil flow aligned with its allies. It was also containing post-revolution Iran after the Iranian Revolution. This fits a broader pattern of power projection in the Gulf. 3) Gulf states internationalized the war By inviting external powers: They widened a regional conflict into a global one. They increased the stakes for Iran. Iran responded asymmetrically, since it could not match U.S. naval power directly. Bottom line Both points rely on a simplified narrative: Iran as the aggressor The U.S. as a neutral protector A more balanced reading shows: Iran targeted economic lifelines of its enemy and its backers Gulf states were not neutral actors The U.S. was not just responding, it was intervening strategically History here is not clean. It is layered with proxy dynamics, oil politics, and survival logic on all sides. I asked you for 3 and you could only provide 2 fake narratives. You need to remove the western propoganda Googles you're wearing to see life in its true form. |
Tolumiide:Just mention 3 instances to support your assertion. |
ufotunang:Can't you people do your own research before asking pre-school questions? They are hosting US bases the US is using to attack Iran and protect the Zionists US and the Zionists use these countries' airspace to launch attacks against Iran while these countries shoot down (some of) Iran's retaliatory strikes. A friend of my enemy is also my enemy. They actually hate (their elites) Iran because Iranians aren't really Arabs and are Shias (Most of these arabs are Sunnis) |
Leilanjleeane:Actually, they don't have the balls to do so. All their population combined not even up to Iran. They can't even raise an army that can fight the Houthis, reason they all invited the US bases to their lands as a form of protection. Unfortunately their eyes are now opened seeing that these bases are for the Zionist protection and for the US interests, not to protect these weak Arab gluttons. |
Kingsnairaland:I don't need to. Just wanted him to help those who always shout "propoganda" breathe. |
You meant 2015? No Venza was manufactured after 2015. |
seunny4lif:Please, kindly be including source in your reportage boss. Thanks |
LordAdam16:To be sincere, Iran isn't as brutal as I want them to be. I wish they can be as evil as the Zionists for just 1 week, the ME would have changed shape on the world map. |
WriteerNg:I knew it.. Persians are too proud to go begging for things. I knew they have been building their own air defence system. A country with about 94% literacy rate with more than 300k scientists should not be going around the world begging for air defense. |
[quote author=WriteerNg post=138824178] the leaking mouth. |
[quote author=WriteerNg post=138823255]⚡Saudi Arabia's Foreign Minister Prince Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud slams Iran: They continue to attack their neighbors, their brothers, while calling for Islamic solidarity. How can they expect solidarity and support while attacking Islamic countries, harming their interests, and targeting their civilians? How can they call for diplomatic solutions while attacking nations that have no connection to the ongoing conflict? If Iran believes that the Gulf states are incapable of resilience or response, then its calculations are wrong. Political responses are available, and non-political responses are also on the table. Iran must review its intentions. If it is sincere in extending a hand of friendship and brotherhood, it must first uphold the principles of Islam, which do not allow a true Muslim to attack their neighbors—especially Muslim neighbors, civilians, and the interests of Muslim nations. It appears that Iran has not taken these considerations into account, and all of this comes at a price. , una mouth don overloud. Up till now, none of you condemned what the US and her lap dog did in Iran but because your golden goose (oil) is now being destroyed, you're singing non stop. Weak puppets. Iran should not stop firing them on all cylinders for inviting a dangerous stranger into the region. |
Penguin2:See western brainwashed customer. I spit. |
usmanpogo:Good that you have mentioned what others pointed out, now start pointing out disinformation with the right ones instead of repeating the same lines whenever you come on here. Assist in sentisizing the thread. Thanks |
usmanpogo:Hope you know this doesn't make you appear smart or exposed? Point out the misinformation and provide the right ones. Too hard to do? |
[quote author=WriteerNg post=138817715] your worse you weak puppet. |
23jerryking:I forgot to put you where you belong. Oya join queue. |
WriterrNg:Dedollarization is just at an infant stage for now Arming Iran? Iran I know hardly ask for free weapons, whatever they have that they didn't build must have been bought, so I wouldn't call that an assistance except for the Intel I also want to believe came at a price. Selling arms to countries isn't the kind of defence I'm talking about. Even the west sell arms to countries they don't like so these countries can harm themselves. Cuba, Venezuela, Iran and a host of countries have been under serious sanctions, but most are now weaker than before. The type or kind of defence I am talking about is still missing. Something potent than NATO should be established to cover countries who do not want to be western vassals. |
You are not wrong WriterrNg: |
WriterrNg:What has china and Russia done collectively to clip the wings of US? Kindly name 3. (what has been done not what they want to do). South American countries can't really do much because they can't defend themselves if they decide to do what you're suggesting, but when they know there are countries ready to defend them, they'll gladly do the above. What did Russia and China do when the US invaded Venezuela? What are they currently doing to stop the US from destroying Cuba? |
23jerryking:Today is Wednesday, and you're talking about Saturday. (4 days ago) Did the report say it happened before Saturday? Get sense na. |
WriterrNg:Why is Iran not hunting the equivalents in Israel? Tit for tat is the best way to stop a bully. |
The Iranians are built different
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shoodboi2:Is the rest of the world not under their leach so handicapped to do something about it? What exactly is China and Russia doing to stop this rubbish? |
WriterrNg:Nice |
Will it be available worldwide? WriterrNg: |
That South African CAF president is a pure weakling smelling of inferiority complex Bahamas95: |
cr7lomo:As long as the ref didn't blow final whistle on that day, outside the field decision can't give the trophy to Morrocco. If morrocco was so good, why didn't they score their dubious PK? Why didn't they win via extra time? Money rules the world now and this decision is a perfect example of international corruption |
Not an African thing. Didn't FIFA ban Russia for the same crimes Israel and the US have been committing? The rot is global Aonkuuse: |
WriterrNg:Is the world so blind to see that the US is the cancer destroying world peace? They can't stay a year without fanning and starting conflicts somewhere around the world. They wouldn't have finished one conflict before fanning new ones. They are so obsessed with causing havoc in the world. It's hight time countries come together to stop this rotten leg disturbing the peace of the whole body. |