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Dtruthspeaker:
Delkuf, See as jw don twist am as he no get wetin e won talk again way dey valid.


Eclearly I said "our own beginning " Genesis 1. (Man's beginning).

Not God's beginning!

Jw don twist am.

There is no way you people can get to the Kingdom of God!

If na even GENESIS 1-1 u dey talk about i nor see where dey write "MAN BEGINNING"
Make I quote am for u
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.”
This opening passage of the Bible states important truths. the “heavens and the earth,” or the material universe

I nor see where dey write MAN BEGINNING

Dtruthspeaker:
Do children not bear the images of their Father? Still the same thing John is saying!

Oga Dtruthspeaker
U don dey deviate

Dtruthspeaker:
Nope.

John 1 is talking about "our own beginning " Genesis 1. (Man's beginning).

Not God's beginning!

You are it clearly in Proverbs 8:22-31. And that is still Jesus Again.

@ courz @ advocatejare @ achrolaye abeg make una show me wey dem take write for john 1verse 1 "MAN BEGINNING".

Dtruthspeaker:
Nope.

John 1 is talking about "our own beginning " Genesis 1. (Man's beginning).

Not God's beginning!

You are it clearly in Proverbs 8:22-31. And that is still Jesus Again.

Shia nothing musa nor go see for gate
So GoD don get beginning.

Dtruthspeaker:
So are you not saying 2 People are there?
1) Big Papa God and

2) He Pikin God wey Papa God dey Send "make light, make toy house, decorate the house eel well, make toys and put them inside the house make dem live for the house (and now our toy story don start be dat.)

Oga u sure say u dey read yr bible abi u wan just make jest of jw
See wenti collossian 1:15,16 talk.

He is the image of the invisible God,a the firstborn of all creation;b 16 because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible,c whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him and for him.

Dtruthspeaker:
Wrong!

Genesis 1 shows SOMEONE MOVED AND SPOKE!

John 1 clearly directs us to look at "The Word'. Verse 3 shows The Word made us. Genesis 1:3-29 Showing SOMEONE SPOKE SAYING "Let there be... or Let the...".

Anyway off point. Delkuff see! This thread is about Jesus and Arc Michael not Jesus and His Father!

I only answered the jw guy to point out that What comes from God must be God John3:6

And if u say that "WORD" is GoD or a spoken word by GOd.
If u look at the first line of john 1 verse 1
Which say "In the beginning was the Word"

You are trying to tell me that GOD has a beginning but God had no beginning. Jehovah God is “from everlasting to everlasting.”he nor get beginning or ending (Psalm 90:1, 2) However, The "Word" which is Jesus Christ, did have a beginning. So He is “the beginning of the creation by God.”—Revelation 3:14.
So if u put Jesus in place of the WORD in the first line u which see the meaning in that scripture.

Dtruthspeaker:
Wrong!

Genesis 1 shows SOMEONE MOVED AND SPOKE!

John 1 clearly directs us to look at "The Word'. Verse 3 shows The Word made us. Genesis 1:3-29 Showing SOMEONE SPOKE SAYING "Let there be... or Let the...".

Anyway off point. Delkuff see! This thread is about Jesus and Arc Michael not Jesus and His Father!

I only answered the jw guy to point out that What comes from God must be God John3:6

Oga now I see yr misconception
That language "WORD" nor mean speech or when someone is saying something.
Rather the language "WORD" refer to someone which is Jesus Christ.
So u are viewing that verse for a literal view.

Dtruthspeaker:
Wrong!

Genesis 1 shows SOMEONE MOVED AND SPOKE!

John 1 clearly directs us to look at "The Word'. Verse 3 shows The Word made us. Genesis 1:3-29 Showing SOMEONE SPOKE SAYING "Let there be... or Let the...".

Anyway off point. Delkuff see! This thread is about Jesus and Arc Michael not Jesus and His Father!

I only answered the jw guy to point out that What comes from God must be God John3:6

Oga u are wrong
See wenti john 1verse 2-3 talk

This one be dey with God from the beginning.  God use-am make everything, e no get anything wey dey wey God no use-am make

So who be this one
Na Jesus Christ .

Emusan:
Well put.



If anyone dare to challenge Russell or Rutherford that will be the end of his/her time in that Hall

The funny thing, they will be arguing and defending the worship of Jesus against those WHO BELIEVE Jesus shouldn't be worshipped then.

Well, the reason I don't take them serious is that since they believe in NEW LIGHT they should just wait small what they are defending with their life and blood today and called NEW LIGHT might be OLD LIGHT tomorrow when their gods come back to their senses and realised error had occurred

Oga u when nor come get new or old light , how market.
Una sey we be liar , we be cultist oya no problem we greed with una
Oga una religion when nor dey lied and alway dey talk truth tell us the name of the religion so we fit attend una service and also share una belief we us make we learn.

God’s Word refers to Michael “the archangel.” (Jude 9) This term means “chief angel.” Notice that Michael is called the archangel. This suggests that there is only one such angel. In fact, the term “archangel” occurs in the Bible only in the singular, never in the plural. Moreover, Jesus is linked with the office of archangel. Regarding the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ, 1 Thessalonians 4:16 states: “The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice.” Thus the voice of Jesus is described as being that of an archangel. This scripture therefore suggests that Jesus himself is the archangel Michael.

Also,The Bible states that “Michael and his angels battled with the dragon . . . and its angels.” (Revelation 12:7) Thus, Michael is the Leader of an army of faithful angels. Revelation also describes Jesus as the Leader of an army of faithful angels. (Revelation 19:14-16) And the apostle Paul specifically mentions “the Lord Jesus” and “his powerful angels.” (2 Thessalonians 1:7) So the Bible speaks of both Michael and “his angels” and Jesus and “his angels.” (Matthew 13:41; 16:27; 24:31; 1 Peter 3:22) Since God’s Word nowhere indicates that there are two armies of faithful angels in heaven​—one headed by Michael and one headed by Jesus—​it is logical to conclude that Michael is none other than Jesus Christ in his heavenly role.

Dtruthspeaker:
The Word, Came from God and is Born by God, so it must be A God! John 3:6

And that god is Jesus Christ.
So that word which is Jesus Christ was with GoD(Jehovah) from the beginning of creation

So let me rephrase john 1verse 1 again.

In the beginning was the Word(Jesus), and the Word(Jesus) was with God, and the Word(Jesus )was a god.

The modern-day organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses began at the end of the 19th century. At that time, a small group of Bible students who lived near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, in the United States, began a systematic analysis of the Bible. They compared the doctrines taught by the churches with what the Bible really teaches. They began publishing what they learned in books, newspapers, and the journal that is now called The Watchtower—Announcing Jehovah’s Kingdom.

Among that group of sincere Bible students was a man named Charles Taze Russell. While Russell took the lead in the Bible education work at that time and was the first editor of The Watchtower, he was not the founder of a new religion. The goal of Russell and the other Bible Students, as the group was then known, was to promote the teachings of Jesus Christ and to follow the practices of the first-century Christian congregation. Since Jesus is the Founder of Christianity, we view him as the founder of our organization.—Colossians 1:18-20.

bolabizzle:
Its a good promise. so far, how many people have you persuaded to become witnesses?

Why are u interested in the number.

Courz:
Move up to some comments above and read his comment. Somebody in this thread asked him if he is really a Jehovah’s Witness. His reply was I think so. What was that?

According to proverb if someone ask u a stupid question u give him a stupid reply
So that question was a kind of mockery.

Aemmyjah:
Pharisees and Sadducees no share school of thought but they are united against Jesus?
Yeye curse and his miscreants

Yeah two enemy fighting a common enemy

oteneaaron:
Hahahahahaha

Like Courz said, many modern day JWs are mentally lazy.

Even the Watchtower these days, is written in very basic English - it is almost as though they were written for mentally slow people - no offence.

I guess it is all in a bid to make the indoctrination process much easier.

At our family home, we had big bound volumes of Awake and Watchtower from the 1950s.

I spent many nights and weekends reading them all.

We had all the versions of Watchtower Library.

After all these mental gymnastics only to find out it was all ONE BIG FAT LIE.

So u agreed that @achorladey @advocatejare @courz are correct about what they say against jw and all what @max @ cornelboy @janosky said is a lie, if then yes
Can u guys educate us about yr believe so that we can learn from u guys.

advocatejare:
I know his modus operandi. He’s cornered, he’s now looking for diversionary tactics

he nor dey divert
U asked Mr max a simple question and he gave u a simple answer and now u dey tell am sey make e prove how Jesus Christ take be the founder .
And from his reply Mr max told u to tell him yr religion before he can proceed with the question.
But instead u are deviating for the question.

Courz:
Go back to the 1st page and read to the last. You have eyes, don't you? Don't be lazy and read the thread okay. You are not a 5 year old that needs to be spoon fed.

Answer my question jare. Show me 1914 from the Bible. I hope you know that this is a False Prophecy.

Mr courz create a thread for it and quote me then I will give u the answer.

Courz:
Why are you quoting me? You are asking somebody a question and you are quoting another person.

By the way, show me from the Bible where 1914 is written.

It seems u remember me Mr courz.

Courz:
Mad MaxInDHouse, prove to us from the Bible where Jesus bought Watchtower from Russell. Show us the receipt, the day, month, year and amount Jesus paid to Russell. You cannot derail this thread with another thing. Answer the damn question! Ewu Gambia! Big fool that claims he can beat ten men at a go. EbubeAgu agent!

Mr courz can u vividly quotes OR prove where Mr max say this without changing or adding meaning to the comment
JESUS BROGHT WATCHTOWER FOR RUSSELL.
If proving then Mr max will answer the question.

Courz:
Don’t mind the Idiot. He thought he just made a mind blowing comment. I will continue to shame them using the words of Watchtower themselves. It is not our fault that they choose to adopt a name that is not the real name of God, a made up name by a Catholic Monk. Why didn't they investigate where the Catholic Monk got the name from? Let them continue in their Lies and Manipulation. The internet is free for all to use to research these things before falling for their Lies.

@achorladey
U have heard it from the horses mouth
Mr courz saiding Jehovah is another name of Satan?
Do u agree with him.

MaxInDHouse:
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

WÀHÁLÀ! WÀHÁLÀ!! WÀHÁLÀ!!! in Zazoo voice!
Who are you?
And who gave you the impetus as in what audacity do you have to question my friends on my thread?

Mr max
Thread are made for people to read and ask question, I come in peace.

@achorladey
Do u know that yr friend courz once said in a thread of his, that the name Jehovah is another for Satan.
And do u know that yr friend courz is also an atheist.

@advocatejare
What is the name of yr religion and who is yr founder?

BigDawsNet:
Cut off to where? Since there's no hell... Will they just stop existing??

Yes, all memory of them will be forgotten

Courz:
I have asked this same question from the JWs in this forum and none of them could explain the 1914 doctrine and where it is found in the Bible.

I am hoping you will be different and put them to shame. So, Show me from the book of Daniel where it was said that Jesus would come in 1914.

You said it not true that Jesus came in 1914, so tell me yr reason so that we can proceed.

Courz:
Show me directly from the Bible that Jesus came in 1914. You believe you JWs stick to the Bible right? Therefore, Jesus should have mentioned that he will come in 1914. Remember, the Bible was written thousands of years ago. So, Show me from the Bible how you arrived at 1914.

Everything about that 1914 is in the bible of Daniel. So tell me yr opinion first before I will start my explanation.

MaxInDHouse:
Hàáà!
So na TV you dey see people, shey?
You come dey tok sey you dey assembly ọmọ we are going for original imperson assembly face to face!

Imperson assembly started January
Our regional convention we kick-off November

Courz:
Where is 1914 in 2 Timothy 3 vs 1-5? Did Jesus specifically tell you that he came in 1914?

Before I will give u answer, first share wilth me yr opinion why u did not agree that Jesus came in 1914.

MaxInDHouse:
I heard it kicked off since November in the same venue we are using in Lagos so everyone in the congregation is looking forward to our own.

We did ours at home

MaxInDHouse:
Wow!
You've been enjoying o!

The last two talk were very interesting

It was given by brother Olusegun Eroyemi,

Courz:
Why did it take you JWs many years to find the scripture that says the day and the hour, nobody knows. Only the Father knows? Since Jesus says his coming which will mark the end of the world, nobody knows when it will happen, why are you JWs still teaching that Jesus came in 1914? Show me 1914 from the Bible when Jesus explicitly said no date. How did Watchtower manage to know 1914 when Jesus says no one knows?

1914 marked the birth of God’s heavenly Kingdom and the beginning of “the last days” of this present wicked system of things.​—2 Timothy 3:1-5.