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n3xt:
I love 3D floors o but I’d rather pay more to achieve a great landscape like this.

Pics - IITA, Ibadan (2019)

n3xt:
To be honest, I think your Nigeria is kinda different.

I’ve been using automatic gate for almost 8 years now, the only maintenance I ever did was to change my battery.

Guess the amount. It’s just 7k!
My gatehouse is just a complete waste.

I use motion sensors too and automatic sprinklers. These things don’t just pack up. Even when they do, just go to Ogunpa market if you’re in Ibadan or Oshodi if you’re in Lagos, those guys can fix anything.

diordaves:
Motion sensors and CCTV are smart ways to secure the home. This approach is very ideal for personal homes or rental properties where the service charge can maintain the gargets.

Please note that in Nigeria, continuous maintenance of home fixtures is a major issue. It is not a smooth sailing and non issue as it is abroad. From generators, to ACs to solar panels and CCTVs . Maintenance can be cumbersome in Nigeria. So if you are adopting smart technology in Nigeria or bringing a niche solution from abroad, factor in sustainability and easy availability of spare parts in the planning stage so the gargets don't fail in no time.

diordaves:
What alternatives do you mean? Electronic gate? Or just manual gate?

EgunMogaji2:
Will you just look at these anti environmentalist nut jobs without grass in there yards?

Folks, it’s your house and your property. Live your life as you wish while considering your locale. Don’t criticize the choice of others.

If you want grass, do grass. If you want stained concrete, do it. If you want Pacific Ocean sand, do it.

All those fantastic homes that were built by the Awolowos, the Okeowos, the Arisekolas, etc where are they now? Most are inhabited by weeds, dirt, etc

Life’s too short.

diordaves:
I am sorry if I come across as harsh. It was not my intention. I can be better than that.

In your comments, you just admitted that chambers are a necessary fixtures of homes albeit provided by the government but situated away from the property but the property can access it's use. So in the US, you may build a local one for self use but you don't have to.

However in Nigeria, the government and councils are largely irresponsible and unresponsive, so we build everything.

It is not silly we build chambers in Nigeria. The building needs inspection chambers but the governments fail to provide these in public space planning so we do it ourselves.

In all your stay in the West, have you ever seen water tower or ground floor water tanks in private homes? No because the responsible government provide water with good pressure to homes. But in Nigeria we do. So it is not silly we do but a reaction to irresponsible leadership and providing practical solution to a fundamental need.

In the US have you ever seen soakaway in majority of private homes as we do in Nigeria? No, because the government provide public sewer. But in Nigeria we do. So it is not silly we do as we have to provide these ourselves.

Have you seen generator house, gateman house in private America homes? No as the government provide electricity and security. But in Nigeria we do. So it is not silly we do as we have to generate our own power and provide personal security. In short, every homeowner is a local government and the Nigerian engineers and builders are just providing practical solution to fundamental need. They are not silly.

When we bring ideas from abroad we MUST marry such ideas with the reality in Nigeria to find a perfect fit to SOLVE the problem and not complicate it. There is this superiority complex in some of us awayrians that could blind us to the practical reality of life Nigeria which hinders our adaptibility when in Nigeria. This superiority complex is one of the reasons why some awayrians fail to integrate back into the country of their birth.

In Nigeria there's always a reason why certain things are done in a certain way. Find out that reason first before turning abroad for a solution that may complicate the situation.

n3xt:
I have a great one but it’s not cheap to maintain. It takes a lot of planning and cost so much to maintain here.

Pic 1 - Perimeter Drain
Pic 2 - Concrete Driveway
Pic 3 - Green Area
Pic 4 - Another Green Area

I never had issues with the driveway design but maintaining the lawn.

mufutau55:
You are comparing this environment to Naija environment, abi? And what kind of greens can you plant in 10% of the land. You will still need parking and other areas within that 10% o. Thank you o.

Hajji M.

mufutau55:
I agreed with you o. Go into Youtube and see the art of stamped concrete work. In Naija we need space to park cars and do owambe in the compound... how many people dey think of greens. You are using one plot to build a duplex that will occupy 90% of the land.. how many percentage left for anything green.
I laugh with us in Chinese language o.

Hajji M.

Focusmind:
What you have there is what I have in mind. I am not a fan of covering the whole compound with concrete.

If I see way sef, I will grass the whole compound. Only the section where my car will park will be concrete. The walk way is going to be grass and concrete slabs at regular intervals of the walkway.

We are not used to green environment in Nigeria as we lack maintenance culture in Nigeria. People are here saying lack of time. What lack of time? Bring out 1hour on Saturday or Sunday and you will keep your lawn well mowed. I am also a core environmentalist.

Since I am on a kobo kobo budget, I have already planted coconut trees and other plants round the compound for them to be growing pending when there is money to continue with the building.

My fence is not plastered. I planted wall carpet grass and the grass have started covering the fence wall. My intention is that the whole wall will be covered green. Though it will take years to cover the whole fence. I am ready to use the long scissors to be trimming them down once in a while.

EgunMogaji2:
Or we’ve spent decades doing the grass cycle and prefer simplicity in our life’s?

Badgers14:
Consider the tropical nature of Nigeria. During rainy season, the owner might need to mow once a week.. also figure weed control and again the ever busy nature of a typical Nigerian. Traffic jam to work or shop, traffic jam coming back .. very stressful life

Badgers14:
Looks beautiful but ehn to have a manicured lawn like this requires lots of elbow work
I might be wrong but for an average Nigerian we might not be there yet. Figure lots of people build houses and they don't live there full time. Etc. Different circumstances.

The few people I know that have this in their build are not average Nigerians and they pay people to take care of their lawn for them.

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EgunMogaji2:
Abi o. I’ve learnt to just shun certain disgruntled post/posters. I’m not using my precious retirement resource on nonsense

This is what Hajj wrote when he started his thread:

“Off-Topic Thread - To Discuss Anything and Everything that doesn't fit into an individual thread.
Let's discuss everything pertaining to Building Constructions, Real estate and some more.”

The only thing that he expressly forbid was advertisement.

To what we are discussing.

Are there poor people in Nigeria? Absolutely. Just as there’s dead broke people in the USA, U.K., etc

My grouse is the painting of the populace as generally poor. But I completely understand your point.

n3xt:
If I may ask, who are the poor Nigerians?

Is it the woman who’s selling seeet that her son is driving Bentley?
These same set of people are the ones who will go and queue for N1,000 during election.

Or is it those timber merchant who dress like babalawo that is poor?

It’s only the lazy street urchins that are poor. Not even agberos!

Even our construction workers aren’t poor. I once paid a carpenter N485,000 for just 2 buildings. He asked me to help him keep his money.

This is one reason I get worried when I see graduates crying over 30k minimum wage.

O saaro Thursday!

EgunMogaji2:
We’ve been doing this thread now for a minute.

Lots of proven and established builders have wowed us with fantastic structures over the years.

People like Aventures, Spyder880, Skimanski, RichYoungRuler, Abdulwastecx, Podosci, KolaShangOne, Darenyx and others that I may have forgotten.

I don’t recall ever reading them post seeking for business or claiming number one or the best. Combined they must have hundreds of millions in completed projects.

Guys, thanks for your humility and letting your work speak for itself.

Sufisunni:
these institutions used dollars as their benchmark in analysis. Purchasing power parity matters alot when it comes to these comparisons.

kopell:
Kola, there is no reason to start this debate with you. People that live that life are talking from experience you wont understand it until you live it. I can easily tell you 99% of people in west buy there car on loan. Let me make this clear to you, they don't own those luxury cars you see them driving,
the bank does. Please don't compare Nigeria poverty with other Nations like India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, China, Myanmar, even Brazil, including America. Do you know people line up for food in America too. So don't think Nigeria is the worst place when it comes to poverty. All those nonsense you're reading from United Nations indexes and mostly not adequate with reality in most of those places. If I tell you today that most westerner's especially the Americans working for over 10-15 years may not have $20,000 cash in their savings bank account; all they have is debts and credit that's not being rich but debt rich. And these are the people according to the United Nations index's on income making average income of $50,000 per year. I drop my pen

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