I was active here years ago but decided to be at the background due to toxic arguments here. And little has changed.

budaatum:

Political survival always breeds hypocrisy. A politician would say black is white if it wins votes, and would flip on a dime too. Drumptf just took it further than any American president ever did in my lifetime, and this is my eleventh. I so love the fact that barring a few, democracy lets the very bad ones get only one term.

Exactly! It will be political suicide for Biden or any US president to be forceful towards Israel. On Israel-Palestine conflict, I prefer Bernie Sanders policy.

sanpipita:
AOC and other Lefists are not attacking Biden over Israel? you guys really live in alternative reality

Same leftists that are planning to block Biden'a arms approval to Israel, biggest criticism Biden has gotten over his recent Israel stance has come from Democrats.

You're right. I also voiced my dissatisfaction over Biden's comments. I believe Israel should be held more to account by world powers and be called out with possible sanctions. And I like Joe Biden.

ReubenE:

I've treated your question in my lead post.

In international politics, Power belongs to the super structure. Law, morality/ethics etc belongs to the substructure.

International law most often is a mere expression on paper when it does not align with the interest of the Big Players.

In this case, the US is involved so "Might is Right"

Well, you've proven my point, thanks. Your posts shows how unfair the lack of enforceability of international law is and it's inhumane effect on the Palestinians unfortunately. The laws are not been enforced. Most leaders in the US and Europe are afraid of holding Israel accountable or speaking the truth for political reasons—it will be political suicide for them. And the people being killed are the women and children, the helpless, defenseless ones.

ReubenE:
Egypt and and the Arab league is largely responsible for the ordeal the Palestinians are facing...
Those lands were not stolen, majority was acquired through conquest after the Arab-Israeli wars

Israel only expanded its grip on Palestinian lands (formally a British mandate) after the defeat of the Arab coalition in 1948 and 1967.

If the Arab league had allowed reason to prevail when the UN Resolution partitioned that land to Two States (Jewish State of Israel, and Arab State of Palestine) in 1947, perhaps by now, Palestine would have been a thriving country on their own with her own army.

But Egypt and the Arab coalition felt Israel was too small and feeble. Egyptian Generals even boasted that a war with Israel would be like a parade from Cairo to Tel Aviv, that Tel Aviv would be overtaken in two weeks.
They opposed the UN Resolution for Two-State Solution by invading Israel, a battle they lost.
Israel ceased more lands far more than what was given to her by the UN after the war. Can Israel be blamed for doing this? The answer is No, the the land is a war bounty.

Syria lost the control of Golan Heights, Jordan lost the West Bank, Egypt lost the Gaza Strip after the 6 days war (3rd Arab war with Israel) in 1967.
Israel obviously and overwhelmingly won the war and consolidated its grip on Palestine.
Can Israel be blamed for controlling a land they conquered through war? No, cause in war, everything is fair.

The Two-State solution the Palestinians and the Arab League opposed vehemently in 1947, is what they are now clamoring for, but unfortunately, Israel and her western allies especially the US is no longer keen on doing that.

One very important fact to note is that, no country is a good country in the International System of power play.
Palestine would do the same to Israel if she finds herself in that position because international politics is always about National Interest.

Russia has been annexing Ukrainian lands (Crimea, Sevastopol etc), Russia has been making attempts to annex Georgia, Turkey has been muscling Armenia etc. No country is a good country, it is always about self and National Interest.

PS:
The land Israel is occupying is not entirely Palestinian land. They have historical ties to that land right from the time of Egypt and Babylonia.
Israel only ceased Golan Heights, West Bank, East Jerusalem, Gaza Strip after the war with the Arab Coalition

With all you've said, you haven't mentioned that it is against international law for any country or region to take over a territory impoverished by war and that was what Israel did. I am a Christian, but reading the history surrounding the Israel-Palestine conflict has made me not blindly support Israel's actions. And the reason Israel has this strength today is simply because of the military aid it receives from the US and Europe. The Palestinians do not even have an army.

Abbeybailey:
That Barr is a classical stooge and he did something similar when he was AG under the Bush Snr. He's a worthless guy and Karma will catch up with him . He even perjured himself under oath when he testified in Congress. I'm the fool forgets that we Americans pay his salary not Trump.

He may be among many to go down for Trump.

So Barr did not release the Executive Summary of Robert Mueller which was sent to him over a month ago?
We would love to see Robert Mueller's Executive Summary.

History won't be kind to William Barr. He is now the AG of Trump not the US . Seems everyone who associates with Trump gets damaged credibility.

So this is where you guys are now. What happened to the former thread?

Everyone is born straight some chose to be gay.
All are born white some chose to be black.
All are born right handed some chose to be left handed.
All are born with clear eye sight some chose to be blind.
All are born tall some chose to be Short. Keep it going.....

All these repubs repeating the same thing they accused dems of. Moore lost even with Trump stauch endorsement. I remember during the senate primaries campaign were trump said he may be wrong supporting Luther Strange. Strange lost and he flipped to Moore with appeal to alabamians with assertiveness that Roy will be voted in. Roy lost and he is now claiming he knew roy will lose. This election victory is not about the skeptic repubs that did not vote,afterall majority of them especially white women voted for moore. It is those dems that mightily came out to vote for Jones. If Trump can win, i see no reason why alabama won't vote for a democrat again.

It was a fascinating win. Even with the disenfrenchisement of black voters due to strict voting rules,the many who were eligible made sure they voted. Heard the black turnout was even more than Obama's.

Adminisher:


Mistake of poor post conflict management not decision to overthrow.

Thank u. NATO left libya few weeks after gadaffi was killed in october 2011,should have stayed longer. Civil war erupted in 2014. People blaming obama are ignorant of international peace keeping strategy. Its not strictly a US thing but a coalition of many states. Infact US played less role compared to the uk and france.

stanech:
California Decriminalizes Intentionally Infecting People With HIV - Even Through Blood Banks


wow..... This is just wrong






obixel you neeed to c this,.

FAKE NEWS as ever. California did not decriminalize it. Rather, the offence was reduced from a felony to misdemeanor.

stanech:


Again the problem is not the nukes but North Korea

OK why is it North Korea?

stanech:


Because the Nuke is not the problem North Korea is

Again why not allow the nukes since it isn't a problem?

stanech:

The problem isn't the gun. It's the person holding the gun.

The problem isn't the Nukes North Korea is testing. Why not allow them to keep building their nuclear arsenal?

Mindfulness:


The president of the USA, Trump, took an oath to protect the constitution.

The first amendment guarantees the right to free speech and protest.

NFL players protested.

Trump demanded for them to be sacked.

This is a threat.

To threaten peaceful protesters is to threaten the first amendment.

This is a violation of the oath.

Very simple.

As you said previously, Americans are united by shared values formulated in the Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights. If you have an iota of objectivity and value the constitution, as you claimed, you will admit that Trump's behavior was unconstitutional.

Thanks very much for the logical explanation . I gave up on him.

9inches:


Kaepernick exercised his right by protesting while Trump broke the law by protesting? Have you lost your senses? The narrative you are trying to create is really not working out in your favor. You don't know what you are talking about.

@bolded, you don't want to go down that road, trust me.

www.politicususa.com/2017/09/24/trump-broken-law-dalling-boycotts-nfl-doesnt-fire-peaceful-protestors.html

9inches:


Kaepernick exercised his right by protesting while Trump broke the law by protesting? Have you lost your senses? The narrative you are trying to create is really not working out in your favor. You don't know what you are talking about.

@bolded, you don't want to go down that road, trust me.

I didn't say Trump broke the law by protesting. In your miopic mind, he was. A president ordering citizens to boycott American business and Americans is completely normal to you. That is how low you have gone. Also, There is a law against a government official influencing private citizens to boycott or tamper With a private citizens business or way of life. Go read my posts reasonably.

9inches:


You see my friend, that is again a false narrative emanating from the left. Who created the "certain standards" you are talking about? Where is it in the constitution? There is Office of Government Ethics in the white house in case you do not know. Trump does not care about your ideologies until you attack him. That is what successful businessmen do; they fight back pound for pound. Trump is not a gaddem politician, people still fail to understand that and expecting him to change overnight! Think of it, would he had won the 2016 election if he had not been himself? If no, then why would his base not be disappointed if he changes on them. It's going to break their fvcking hearts!

On the NFL issue, what problem do you have with it? A naive millionaire chose to delegitimize the symbol of the freedom of a whole country, thereby insulting millions of Americans including those who do not want to get involved in the politics of anything. And then, a figure representing those millions of individuals speak on their behalf and condemned the act whilst still recognizing the offender's right to free expression, and of course utilizing his. Remember, this first happened last year, but it has started becoming a "thing" before the president jumped in on the issue. It was nothing personal, it has everything to do with the America as a nation; so it can only be right that the president stepped forward and addressed it squarely.

@bolded, the reverse was actually the case. Oh my, you just gotta watch hypocritical MSM like CNN, MSNBC, and co. It been all him doing the push backs.

Such hypocrisy. Talking about the constitution as regards Trump attitude and failing to acknowledge the constitution regarding the NFL issue. You see, I don't like talking too much with one person I know is star spangled ignorant or sweeping common sense under the carpet. BTW... there are several petitions against Trump in the Ethics department eg the recent NFL issue and Trump advocating a boycott breaks the law. And so many others.

9inches:

It is very okay to push back on any attacker; Donald Trump is not your average phlegmatic. The rule is simple- don't do onto others what you would not want others do to you. You attack Trump, you should expect a counter attack. PC culture is meant for hardwired snowflakes who simply can't swallow a bitter truth.

Trump is not oppressing anyone; please show me evidence to the contrary. All he does is pushing back on his attackers. We are all living in a time of information and ideological wars; and ideology is propagated through speech. And the only way to counter is also through speech.

It will make us look if we all get off our moral high grounds and realize "it's only a tree that hears it will be cut down and still remains where it is". Human beings are wired differently and we should soft-pedal on this playing-the-judge menace coming from the left. All these false narratives about POTUS being an evil that is out to destroy every Non-Caucasian Heterosexual Christian Male are being orchestrated by the left wing MSM, powered by the DNC. And it's causing fragile brains a great deal of paranoia. That's the truth of the whole issue.

President of the United States. You are not talking about a twelve year old boy who needs to know the basics about simple interaction and criticism. President of the United States of America. You sure need to conform to certain standards. When you use the powers of your office to attack someone or people because they don't conform to your ideologies warranting insults and threats from your supporters, that is oppression and suppression. Eg the latest NFL issue, calling for a boycott and tagging them sons of bi***s, spreading hate against the media(especially during campaigns etc)

9inches:

You are creating a false narrative.

Below is what silencing the voice of opposing views looks like. A generation when a small stature jewish American requires a heavy police protection to be able to exercise his right to free speech. That is the America we all wake up to presently.

Intellectual thuggery? Dear heaven!

False narrative? Why don't you go to Trumps twitter account then come back here. He attacks anyone he feels opposes him. Jewish Americans needs freedom to, am not denying that. But when the number one citizen is at the forefront of vocal oppression, its a cause for alarm.

stanech:

Of course, Fox News. This has never been about disrespecting the flag or anthem. The flag is meaningless without the people and when the people have grievances, they have the right to protest. The flag symbolises freedom and what is freedom without the people? The military has nothing to do with the protest. What makes up America is not the military but the people.

When a government is committed in silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures ,until it has become a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear.
Harry Truman -33rd president of the
United States.
This is Trumps America.

Speak of double standard and hypocrisy.

Abbeybailey:
Breaking News : Words out now is that Senator Susan Collins of Maine will vote against dismantling of ACA known as Obamacare. Good for her. The repeal of Obamacare is dead. Trump is a Divider in Chief according to ABC polls that just came out with 68% of Americans of all races, genders and political affiliations calling him a divisive figure in America. MAWA: Make America White Again. Americans are truly seeing that the bigoted 71 year old racist pig is really dividing America . The rooster will be coming home to roost for him sooner or later.

Ted Cruz just spoke against the bill. Republicans are just in a hurry to pass a health care bill in order to please their donors while gambling with Americans lives. And Trump will accept any passed health care bill from them coz he needs it badly. He can't wait for "Trumpcare ".

How can a 71 year old man be this clueless, ignorant, immature,Egoistic? The right word is a DOTARD. Never seen.

There exists only two kinds of marriage in Nigeria under the law, statutory and customary marriage. If you do not conform to the requirements by law, whatever you do in the church is void. Most so called Church Marriage is a mere blessing of customary or traditional marriage also known as celebration of marriage.

LordReed:


A better analogy is should children born to convicted criminals in prison also be imprisoned?

I am impressed. It's glaring,those who always make sense here. When republicans had to filibuster in order to send Gorsuch to the Supreme Court, it was a Trump achievement and the ones they were unable to, they are tagged failures by Trump. Trump is making his followers turn against the republican party without them realizing it. Feel pity for the republican senators. Most of his campaign promises was loaded on them to execute and he just takes the credit. He just sits behind his small table and sign.

The truth is that Donald Trump showed compassion to Joe Arpaio a racist convict and not to 800,000 innocent people who knew America all their lives and contributes to the country's GDP

Abbeybailey:
The problem with you and your ilks is that you love to throw yourself into the happenings in America where you don't have a clue. DACA was not illegally executed by Obama. He used his executive power to implement DACA because the Congress can't agree on how to go about reforming immigration with about 12 millions undocumented aliens. It's just trump and the AG Sessions showing their racist self. The 800.000 Dreamers affected by DACA were brought into America by their parents as young children. Some of them were brought in as young as few months old. The only country they know is America and in America, we don't punish children for the crime of parents. Your mind must be so Fvcked up for you to think you can just put your stinking trap in things you have no clue. Go back to your tribal section and spout your garbage there.

A logical explanation once again. DACA is not a law or an act created by OBAMA. It is an executive order by 44th after Congress failed to make a law regarding it for about 16years now. If the executive order was unconstitutional, states and private persons were at liberty then to go to court which no one did or the action failed. Why did Texas threatened to go to court through a letter sent to Trump after he was elected if he didn't rescind it? The only problem was that DACA was an executive order and can be trashed out by the next president.