₦airaland Forum

Sepukku:
They are human beings down there.

Human first, criminal second.

Justice is balance not vengeance.

Remind us again why they're heavily armed?

legitnow1:
IS LGBT RIGHT?

Is crime right? Let's all embrace hate bro, isn't that why Trump is your hero?

legitnow1:
DUDE PLEASE STOP THROWING THAT WORD CRIMINAL AND ILLEGAL LOOSELY, IT IS LIKE YOU PEOPLE JUST LEARNT THOSE WORDS NEW.


SEEMS MANY OF YOU ARE RECENTLY EDUCATED BECAUSE THE WAY YOU TALK, SHOW U DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, U JUST SAY IT BEAUSE U THINK IT MAKES YOU SOUND EDUCATED, MEANWHILE U ARE A DUNCE.


IF THIS WAS IN EUROPE, PRIORITY WOULD BE RESCUE MISSION.

Go tell that to Trump, your hero. You were rejoicing when he won right, because he's anti-lgbt. We learnt hate from him sorry you're on the receiving end.

legitnow1:
DUDE, U NEED SERIOUS PRAYERS AND DELIVRANCE.


EVEN THE LOCALS HAVE MOBILISE TO HELP THOSE TRAPPED WITH ROPES, WHILST YOUR GOVERNMENT LOOK ON.



THERE IS A REASON WHY AFRICA IS AT THE BOTTOM AND WILL REMAIN THERE.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0RnX5EYb3Y&t=127s

Those are people and families benefitting from crime. Have you asked yourself why they're familiar with the terrain underground and where to find the miners down a shaft 100s of kilometers deep? its because they've been down there before. Their only saving grace is because they were not caught in the act.

legitnow1:
DUDE, DO YOU HAVE TO LIE?


Y DO SA TELL ALOT OF LIES?


4500 PEOPLE ARE DOWN THEIR, SOME DECOMPOSING BODIES HAVE BEEN RECOVERED AND YOUR GOVERNMENT IS ACTING LIKE IT IS NOT HUMANS THAT ARE TRAPPED DOWN THERE.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0RnX5EYb3Y&t=127s

What were they doing engaging in a criminal activity? Everyone in SA knows the govt has declared a war against illegal miners and yet they went ahead telling themselves they're smarter than South Africans. Well guess who's laughing now

Sepukku:
All I can see are people who sympathize with other human beings.

I don't see anyone who supports the illegality of their crime by encouraging it.

Lol, now criminals (armed illegal miners) are "fellow human beings". But no, its not crime sympathizing!

Sepukku:
So why are other people going down there to "rescue" them if they can come out by themselves.

You think I am stupid neh!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0RnX5EYb3Y

Answer...

legitnow1:
SINCE OCT 18, U BETTER GO AND CARRY YOUR CORPSES.


THIS IS NOTHING SHORT OF A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY.

As a sympathizer, warn your brothers too. Same fate awaits them

Sepukku:
No we want you to uphold the rule of law in your execution of it.

You don't feed criminals for eternity waiting on their goodwill to one day get arrested. You need to make the conditions unbearable so they come to the negotiating table. Same way you throw teargas when you ambush them - next you'll say that's not upholding the rule of law Sit down man

Sepukku:
The bolded is what your news outlets are pushing as propaganda.

I don't know any sound minded Nigerian that would support criminal activity in anyone's country.

Now you know who they are - go through this thread from top to bottom, the majority are crime sympathizers.

Sepukku:
So let me get this straight. Illegal heavily armed zama zama thugs go in to mine.
During this illegal mining activity they get stranded or stuck.
They can't come out.
Their relatives run to authorities to assist with rescuing them from a condition that will inevitably kill them

And the government's solution is to wait it out until the miners bring themselves out of the mines the are TRAPPED in or stay in there without food and water which the government can get to them.

Great strategy my fellow Saffers.

Bravo!

I see you're commenting with great conviction on matters you know nothing about.

Zama zamas went into an abandoned (or hijacked mine shaft) to conduct illegal mining despite knowing its prohibited. SA police shut off all escape routes and orders them to surrender. Zama Zamas refuse and opt to stay underground. SA police starve them for weeks in order to force them out. Zama zamas stay put although a 1000 have since surfaced since Oct 18.

legitnow1:
I'M IN MY COUNTRY, YOU ARE THE FOREIGNER HERE.

This is an online space, you don't own it. Secondly, you're the one who entered my thread, so you're the foreigner in my thread. Kapish. And lastly, I'm not the one defending criminality. I asked why you and the majority of people in this thread prone to being crime sympathizers? Is it an indication of who you are as a people?

Sepukku:
Stop spinning the story so we have sympathy for your government.

You think those guys are just staying in there for their comfort, it's obvious they are stuck or a good number of them are in some sort of distress. down there and cannot get out otherwise why are you sending them food and water in the first place.

You want sympathy instead for criminals who knowingly went underground to steal SA mineral wealth? Give me a break.

legitnow1:
ARE SOUTH AFRICANS EVER RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING?


WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS IT TO SECURE THOSE MINES? ALIENS OR BIRDS?

Why is it your responsibility as foreigners to see everything in SA as an opportunity for criminal activity? Are you natural born criminals?

Sepukku:
Stop asking me stupid questions. Is this the first attempt your country has made in rescuing people stuck in mines?

There are expert services even outside of your SAPs that can be deployed down there or offer logistics on how to communicate with them down there and at least get the ones who are too weak and starving out of there.

This is what you get when you have illiterate leaders who are overwhelmed with the responsibility of governing a consitutional democractic state in Africa.

Don't worry the DA is going to help you out.

This is not a normal search and rescue mission aided by mine bosses and maps, dumbo. Its an illegal mine operation littered all over with hardened criminals carrying guns. Go be doff somewhere else, but you're deliberately trying to deceive gullible nigerians. Good thing we South Africans are smarter than that.

legitnow1:
FIRST STEP IS TO SEND BREAD AND WATER.



ONCE THEY HAVE EATEN AND DRANK, YOU OPEN NEGOTIATION.



BATCH BY BATCH, ALLOW THEM COME OUT AND THEN SECURE THE AREA, WITH YOUR MILITARY.


U CANNOT ARREST 4000 PEOPLE, IT IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE, WITHOUT KILLING THEM.

You don't bargain from a point of weakness. These are hardened criminals and shouldn't be treated like babies giving them bread, water and dessert. Now that they know we mean business we have an upper hand over them and they'll dance to our tune.

Sepukku:
Look at the stupid comments made by your minister and SAPS then you will understand the madness.

A criminal that stole bread from a spaza shop should not be starved if he is stuck in a small hole because you feel like punishing him .

Justice is balance and not vengeance.

I asked you a simple question - who do you expect to go down a 100km shaft they're not familiar with to go confront 1000s of heavily armed criminals underground familiar with the terrain?

franvincoop:
I just dey laugh you.
The kind wotowoto beating wey Africans don reserve for South African fans for AFCON go pass dat one wey Israelis collect for Amsterdam, make una keep increasing the list of countries wey go join the coalition.
For that list, na Nigeria and Ivory Coast be captain and vice captain.
I just dey laugh you, go inform your fellow citizens, e b things.

Good news we SA don't have to travel out of SA to inflict wotowoto beating on Nigerians. Bring it on,and tell Air Peace to rev their engines

Sepukku:
They are you brothers stop lying. Most of them are lesotho boys.

We do not sympathize with criminals. We sympathize with human beings in general and African people in particular.

Bring them out from there and then you can do whatever you want with them.

Wicked people!

Who's gonna go down shaft 100kms long that they're not familiar with searching for thousands of armed criminals? Are you mad? We should compel them to come out. If they refuse we leave them to die there, we'll have 4000 less criminals.

legitnow1:
RIGHT NOW, FORGET THAT WORD ILLEGAL, BECAUSE ONLY A COMPETENT COURT OF LAW CAN DETERMINE IT.


WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HUMAN LIFE AND THE MINERS RIGHT TO LIFE.

See the chaos your migrant cousins are causing. It won't move you because you people sympathize with criminals - this thread is evidence of that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gmHG0MN54I?si=QnfI8Dlb5RU0k3CQ

legitnow1:
AFTER MAKING THOSE INDICTABLE COMMENTS, IF THE SOUTH AFRICAN GOVERNMENT HAD ANY SNESE, THEY WIL DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE IN THEIR POWER TO ENSURE EVERYBODY EXIT THAT MINE UNHARMED.


THE REAL REASON U WENT THERE WAS FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT AND THE REAL REASON THEY ARE AFRIAD TO COME OUT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT.


THEY CANNOT BE IN THAT MINE WITHOUT THE SOUTH AFRICAN MAIKING IT POSSIBLE.


U CRY ABOUT THESE THINGS BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS STILL SOUTH AFRICANS THAT ARE THE ENABLERS.


THAT MINE IS OWNED BY A SOUTH AFRICAN USING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT FOR CHEAP LABOUR.

So which one is it, South Africans are lazy or South Africans won't allow themselves to be exploited? Pick one coz you're all over the place now .

Since you've been frantically googling SA news, post the numerous videos of the illegal miners threatening SA cops with violence and brandishing firearms.

legitnow1:
THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES, U WERE CRYING ABOUT PEOPLE IN FAR AWAY GAZA, YET PLANNING TO MUREDER 400 PEOPLE INSIDE MINE.

DO U THINK U CAN GO SCOTFREE AND NOT PAY?

DO U REALLY THINK SO?

The people of Gaza are not criminals, these your brothers were caught red-handed on a crime scene and given multiple opportunities since October 18 to surface but they chose not to. Very winnable case, go wail in a corner

ehikwe22:
Who said they're people from foreign country?

Majority of those underground can be from foreign countries but they're only paid peanuts. The people running the syndicate are south Africans and are the real beneficiaries. They hire foreigners because South Africans would rather carry a gun to rob you and shoot you on your head than go into that hole

You can follow your foreign heroes down those holes to showcase your hard work for peanuts. In the end you'd be breaking the law and we'll watch you on tv being starved to death I'll remember your mocking words and then share zero tears for you

legitnow1:
U BROUGHT YOUR NONSENSE HERE AND YOU ARE STILL THE ONE TELLING ME TO GET LOST.

I didn't bring "my nonsense" here for people who lack comprehension skills. Go learn the meaning of "illegal" and then return with a sober response.

legitnow1:
LET US GET ONE THING STRAIGHT HERE.


YOU ARE NOT DEALING WITH CRIMINALS, BUT MINERS THAT YOU HIRED TO DO A JOB.


IF ANYTHING HAPPEN TO THOSE MEN, U WILL JUST BE ADDING TO THE LONG LIST OF BLACK ON BLACK CRIMES.


U CRY ABOUT THOSE SELLING DRUGS, BUT CRIMINALISE THOSE LABOURERS GETTING PAID PEANUT TO FEED THEMSELVES AND FAMILY.



THAT MONEY WILL STILL BE SPENT IN SOUTH AFRICA, CIRCULATE AND BOOST SA ECONOMY.

Did you even read the article? Get lost!

Chucks13:
You are right but are you saying 4,000 human like you should starve to death simply they are illegal miners, is that a solution to miners illegality problem?

They have 2 options, to come out or stay underground and die. If they choose to die it's their choice, SA police are not known for brutality. These people have been warned for years to stop this but they took SA for fools. Next stop - drug dealers.

Arrowhead71:
But your evil South African is fighting Israel for defending themselves against Terrorist, you guys in SA are hypocrite

SA is fighting against the indiscriminate collective punishment of Palestinians. Where has it said it's fighting for hamas? Read a book.

franchasofficia:
Ungrateful Xenophobic Mzamzi creatures enjoying good country built by White South Africans, if not for White Dutch people, these black Mzamzi xenophobes would have turned South Africa to Northern Sudan

In that case it would still have been a million times better that nigeria. 100 of thousands of nigerian refugees were evacuated out of Sudan at the beginning of the war in old tokunbo buses that got stuck in the middle of the desert The jokes just keep writing themselves

DrDoc:
Responsibility for your actions you say ? Are the miners Nigerians ? Why post your poignant sh*ton our media space ? Oh, you've exhausted the toxicity space for Nigerians in your domain right ?

You're a lowlife for validating such murders

You're same Whatsapp group of criminal sympathizers. See post after post condemning SA police for fighting rampant crime. You think your hero Trump who separated kids from their parents would allow such lawlessness in the US?

These are infact invaders and terrorists - SA is soft on them for sending cops instead of the army. You know how that would've played out.

9ja4live:
These people are wicked oh

Read on the dangers of illegal mining in SA, it's a pandemic. They're a law unto themselves and are heavily armed. The miners are involved in deadly turf wars, community homes get cracks or explode from underground activity. Plus SA loses out on mineral wealth to people from foreign countries.

Not everything should always be blamed on SA. When are you people ever gonna take responsibility for your actions?

Minister's comments...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHNyVwHSJAU?si=y4Nn4k44S1rn304Z

South Africa’s government says it will not help an estimated 4,000 illegal miners inside a closed mine in the country’s North West province who have been denied access to basic supplies as part of an official strategy against illegal mining.

The miners in the mineshaft in Stilfontein are believed to be suffering from a lack of food, water and other basic necessities after police closed off the entrances used to transport their supplies underground.

It is part of the police’s Vala Umgodi, or Close the Hole, operation, which includes cutting off miners’ supplies to force them to return to the surface and be arrested.

North West police spokesperson Sabata Mokgwabone said information received from those who recently helped bring three miners to the surface indicated that as many as 4,000 miners may be underground. Police have not provided an official estimate.

Cabinet Minister Khumbudzo Ntshavheni told reporters on Wednesday that the government would not send any help to the illegal miners because they are involved in a criminal act.

“You want us to send help to criminals? You want us to send help to criminals, honestly?” she asked, laughing.

“We're not sending help to criminals. We're going to smoke them out, they will come out. Criminals are not to be helped, criminals are to be persecuted. We didn't send them there and they didn't go down there for the benefit of the republic so we can't help them.

“Those who want to help them, they must go and take the food down there. They will come out and we'll arrest them.”

Illegal mining remains common in South Africa’s old gold-mining areas, with miners going into closed shafts to dig for any possible remaining deposits.

The illegal miners are often from neighboring countries, and police say the illegal operations involve larger syndicates that employ the miners.

Their presence in closed mines have also created problems with nearby communities, which complain that the illegal miners commit crimes ranging from robberies to rape.

Illegal mining groups are known to be heavily armed and disputes between rival groups sometimes result in fatal confrontations.

madone:
after them see Nigeria as number 5 workd Internet user. Every blogger want to come say something about Nigeria just to get views and comments. They know if they say good we will like if they say bad we will come fighting. So they rather say bad so we come fighting cos they know our fight last longer than our like. even Chinko man that can't speak english want to create content about Nigeria and Nigerians

Nigeria never recovered from that online Chidimma knacking SA gave you 3 years ago. Keep wailing