₦airaland Forum

myobjective:
The guy is right, you may have to reevaluate your position. Electricity is not cheap all over the world, you need to look at it from the perspective of generation, transmission and distribution. The distribution companies have been fully privatised and they have to account for every watt of electricity allocated to them by the generating firm.

To have uninterrupted electricity IPPS is the way but the government will have to fully privatise the sector to allow for market forces to determine the price. If we can build an integrated pipeline all over the nation to carry cheap gas from Nigerdelta to every part of Nigeria, then small power plants with a capacity of 1 to 30Megawatt can be set up across estate, market, financial institutions, schools and industrial park to service their power demand

I hope you can read. Nigeria is not even generating enough electricity. We are generating about 1/5th of what we need. Still yet the DISCOS don't have the capacity to distribute this power.

oyatz:
Why is it a shame?
Aren't you happy that Magodo GRA now have electricity 24/7?
When was electricity ever 'a right and social memory'?

I meant social amenity pardon my keypad.
It's a shame that we can deliver gas on the west African gas pipeline to other countries and yet we don't have electricity.
It's a shame that the discos cannot provide prepaid meters or in the countries you use as reference are they billed on estimation?
It's a shame that Nigeria needs 20000 mw and currently it's a struggle to maintain 3500mW even with gas generation, hydro and thermal
It's a shame that people now have to agree to pay more that the set tariff for them to get electricity at the expense of people that also pay their bills regularly based on high estimated billing.
It's a shame that we can't boast of good roads
It's a shame that we can't boast of water supply
It's a shame that niger delta that produces oil that has made Nigeria rich is still in darkness and the rivers there are highly polluted.
You can add to the list and argue but pls argue rationally and be issue based.. Don't just talk because you want to talk

ADMAF:
Go to the UK or U.S and say this. Even d ppl u speaking on behalf of will look at u like a glutton. If we ever want efficient power delivery in Nigeria, we'll have to pay for it, simple. In the Developed Countries we often cite as good xamples, ppl pay precious money to use light. We re too used to free things, we won't develop like this.

So we are using free light in Nigeria? What is wrong with you people.. We're you born yesterday? Nigeria is generating less than 3500Mw and it isn't even steady. Our power requirement is over 20000Mw that is if each person is entitled to 100 watts. Pls is the additional mW available and we didn't pay for it, or is it generated in your house and we don't know about it or are you the one paying the bill of people in fagba that pay 25000 per month.

xandy84:
Electricity everywhere is sold to the highest bidder. You don't have light if you can't pay for it. It is only in Nigerian people want electricity without not paying the price for it. People turn off their light in UK, US just to save on light bill...

Oga electricity is a social amenity.. Everyone has right to social amenities.

myobjective:
The guy is right, you may have to reevaluate your position. Electricity is not cheap all over the world, you need to look at it from the perspective of generation, transmission and distribution. The distribution companies have been fully privatised and they have to account for every watt of electricity allocated to them by the generating firm.

To have uninterrupted electricity IPPS is the way but the government will have to fully privatise the sector to allow for market forces to determine the price. If we can build an integrated pipeline all over the nation to carry cheap gas from Nigerdelta to every part of Nigeria, then small power plants with a capacity of 1 to 30Megawatt can be set up across estate, market, financial institutions, schools and industrial park to service their power demand

The gas that is carried on the west African gas pipeline giving steady power generation to other countries, is it being paid for constantly? Do you know how much Ghana and other countries using the west African Gas pipeline are owing Nigeria? Yet they still have steady gas supply hence steady electricity.

xandy84:
Electricity everywhere is sold to the highest bidder. You don't have light if you can't pay for it. It is only in Nigerian people want electricity without not paying the price for it. People turn off their light in UK, US just to save on light bill...

Just tell me what is Nigerians total power demand and how many mega watts are we generating

yommen:
You didn't want PHCN. You wanted privatisation. Why are you now complaint. Why will I hold back my product from someone who I won't have to disturb with ladder before he pays me?

These customers actually appreciate Electricity more. Many of them have traveled abroad and are able to compare cost of 24 hour Electricity abroad to how much they pay in Nigeria in comparison with cost of running their generators.

I hope you are not as stupid as you sound

asapeola:
So u believe ur public "customer 1" pays in full for d little he has received? U believe customer 2 is not stealing power by tampering making it difficult to get full returns for power delivered. The RCCG u keep referencing, were they billing the customers when the during the development of their power programme? Did they av to worry abt the cost of metering? Were they limited by the amount of money they can invest yearly called CAPEX? I dnt no their tariff rate but r they on 31.26 basic rate for residential single phase users?

Oga go sleep abeg.

asapeola:
Oga just stick to ur gas supply! We talking nation wide stuff here not gas in KG. How is much is ur own gas per KG?

no mind me jare. We just need to argue with facts and learn from each others points. Will give you a contact for an lpg markerter tomorrow.. Just dm me your email.

asapeola:
Do u sell cooking gas?

My section doesn't.. We only do natural gas.. If you need I can give you a contact.

asapeola:
Great ur coming up slowly! So who pays the bigger gas companies 100% for gas-powered turbines? Who pays the generating companies 100% who's in turn supposed to pay the Gascos 100%? Let's remove TCN... So who pays the Discos 100% of energy delivered who in turn is supposed to pay the Gencos (via NBET) 100% and in turn pay the Gascos 100%? If u can narrow it down to one set of persons, then I wld believe u know dis industry.

Why are you saying story..now let me help your slow reasoning. The money costumer 1 pay for Rccg generated light.. Rccg makes their operating costs and also profit and pay for the gas they consumed to NGMC( Nigerian gas marketing company) which is a subsidiary of nnpc. ngmc also makes profit and operating cost and pays their suppliers offshore per scf standard cubic feet these suppliers may include (chevron, shell and other exploration companies) so the funds are generated from customer 1 oga. That's the money that goes round. Don't underestimate the power of numbers. How much more when 100 million houses are paying electricity bills.

asapeola:
Thanks oga! I think I already have 2 at ofada!
Many thanks.

Good boy so that's why you think every other person is an intern.. Smh HUMAN BEINGS LOL.
Try connect light from Rccg camp Oga. They are doing what the federal govt has failed to do since independence..
Lol.

asapeola:
Where ur missing the point is the "stable". What is ur definition of stable electricity? Without adequate funds electricity can never b 24/7 especially as no more govt fundings! R u one of those criticizing the govt on the tariff increment topic? If u did then ur not rdy for stable power. I just replied one novice who claims his company is supplying RCCG in which the church pays the cost of gas 100% and he's happy n feels stable power isn't rocket science!!! Lemme tell u bro, the problem with our power sector is money!

Rccg pays for gas 100percent and they supply this electricity to homes and business within the camp and lotto area. This people have prepaid meters and Rccg is making their gas money as well as making profit on top Oga so don't patronize me Don't worry very soon you will be paying for oxygen. Then the govt will give it to the highest bidder

asapeola:
Lol so much for two houses and fat account statement! Face d issues and stop gloating. After all u dnt even stay in d magodo sef!

this intern vs CEO argument is getting interesting. On your map, magodo. Is the only in habitable place on earth. Better carry 10m go buy two bedroom for mowe so in 10 years time it can be worth 100m to save your self from future blind arguments as an intern identifier. MR CEO

asapeola:
Lol so much for two houses and fat account statement! Face d issues and stop gloating. After all u dnt even stay in d magodo sef!

it's obvious it's only a fat mouth you have. Oya post only your degrees. Tot you were talking about an intern. Lol na wa for you. You no even mouth sef. You wey no be intern how your life.

Divit:
No mind them bros. I tire for these clueless people.

It costs $177 a month to maintain a 24/7 constant electricity supply for a two bedroom apartment in garry, Indiana. That’s roughly 61k NGN here.

Monthly postpaid data and cellular subscription of 30gb costs $80 monthly on verizon! That’s about 29,740 NGN! 30gb on Glo costs 16k here. If you’re ready to pay for services you wish to utilize, I don’t see any reason for it not being rendered. So we are actually enjoying fair services in Nigeria, our real problem is that we are too poor to afford them.

Oga plleeeasee get facts from both sides.. In Festac a room and parlour is paying a monthly electricity bill of 14000 naira. This is a room and parlour face me I face you if you would call it that with about 4 hours of electricity per day.. Now Oga from your data in Harry Indiana they pay approx 28NGN PER HOUR PER ROOM. For a stable 24 hour electricity.
This means in festac that room and parlour should pay 6702ngn per month by your statement.. So pls do the math and tell me what's going on.

SocialJustice:
Mention one place in the world where electricity is not a commodity.

electricity is a commodity based on a tariff.. But in Nigeria there is more darkness that electricity.. Yet people still pay monthly.. There is now a saying that we are actually been metered for darkness
Don't blame the incompetence of the govt on people's unwillingness to pay more for electricity.. Over 20 years ago, study showed that people are willing to pay more for electricity if only they could have improved power supply in the country.

asapeola:
Raysleek! because u supply gas to a privately owned organization does not give u the authority over the entire power value chain in Nigeria! I bet ur still a kid (maybe an intern at d gas supply company). Do u no d the power chain has bn divided into 3? Do u no the installed and currently operational capacities of the 3 sub-sectors? Do u no whatever amount of power generated is divided in an already set percentages within the 11 discos? Do u no that these quantum of energy must be paid in full after deducting ATC&C losses (which is even preset by the regulator).
U just think by working in a gas-refill company, ur now d Lord Manor of the power industry. Beta face ur IT and complete ur logbook as at when due.

Post your qualifications let me post mine Oga leave too much words for women.

asapeola:
Raysleek! because u supply gas to a privately owned organization does not give u the authority over the entire power value chain in Nigeria! I bet ur still a kid (maybe an intern at d gas supply company). Do u no d the power chain has bn divided into 3? Do u no the installed and currently operational capacities of the 3 sub-sectors? Do u no whatever amount of power generated is divided in an already set percentages within the 11 discos? Do u no that these quantum of energy must be paid in full after deducting ATC&C losses (which is even preset by the regulator).
U just think by working in a gas-refill company, ur now d Lord Manor of the power industry. Beta face ur IT and complete ur logbook as at when due.

Lol even interns will still grow. And an intern that owns two houses in Lagos is not a bad intern at all so Don't feel so high up your horse.. And don't teach me about power.. Just post your degree let me post mine. While at it you can also post your account statement while I post mine( incase you want to go down that lane).
My own is that you should just have sense.

lakesider:
Tell me a country where electricity is a right.
U need to understand how things works

define social amenities and list them

[quote author=asapeola post=81600857][/quote]you are not wrong! RECEIVE SENSE!!!

JuanDeDios:
The problem is that the government has not allowed them to implement tarriffs that reflect the cost of providing electricity. That's one of the reasons for the continued darkness. This not good enough, yes, but I guess it's a desperate measure in desperate times.

Good point. But many people especially the poorer areas are paying based on estimated billing while the elite are enjoying pay per unit on prepaid meters.

DeRay98:
Electricity companies is no longer owned by govt but by private investors who Jonathan sold them to.
Govt no longer have a hand in the affairs of electronic companies except to regulate.

they were sold with an objective given to them. Besides govt still owns TCN

Dygeasy:
So what is supposed to be a right is what you have to pay extra for?

What happened to creating a tariff that will ensure that the whole country gets constant supply since they are trying to tell us that constant power supply is possible if we can pay for it? Why not take that initiative countrywide?

Who did we offend in this country? Don't our leaders think?

God bless you. It's not only our leaders that don't think. They are plenty in the comment section

asapeola:
Better you wake up and accept that fact! Electricity is business everywhere in the world. If u want top power then b ready to pay top dollar

If the power is available even though expensive people are a liking to pay no matter what for it. The poor are being bullied based on estimation while the rich are rightly metered. Seems you are the one still sleeping. Pls make sense and don't make noise. FYI I work in a natural gas delivery company.. Supplying natural gas to big companies and camps like Rccg camp for example. They have generating capacity of 30mw. Constant electricity 247 and everyone in the camp is metered with prepaid meters.. The facility has been running since your sense left you. Same with winners camp. Sumal foods in oluyole estate Ibadan just to mention a few. So even if you are a disco official.. You met people working there. You don't know shii

BuddhaPalm:
Electricity is not a right.

Do they use air to generate it?

I'm looking for the sense in your post. Help me look for it by defining social amenities and listing them all out.

Tareq1105:
My brother, the pricing currently is not right. They're finding it very difficult to break even with the current price.

Even you that is running Gen everyday knows that Gen is more expensive.

Consumers, through communities, therefore can now discuss / negotiate agreeable price with the service provider.

If you ask me, I will tell you that it's a reasonable step to take.

Congratulations to the residents of Magodo.

Like I replied to an earlier comment.. Electricity is first supposed to be stable.. In Nigeria it's a world known fact that we don't have stable electricity. When the electricity is stable then it is metered based on a tariff that the discos set. It's not you and I that set tariffs neither were we present when they set their tariff figures. Just like good roads and portable water electricity is a very important social amenity. And every human in Nigeria has the right to stable electricity

asuustrike1:
Electricity is expensive

Oga electricity is supposed to first be available.. And second be metered based on tariff.

Elliot2:
u try.

If you want to belong.. You are welcome. Just open the door and be translated. Romans 10:9-10

Electricity in Nigeria is no more a right and a social amenity but a commodity that is now being sold by the govt to the highest bidder.. If this is true then it's a shame

Elliot2:
Why am I not among?

Look in the mirror and ask that question again loudly.