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andrewbaba44:
You signed a player with better football legacy than hazard ,made him your highest paid player and you want me to believe he isn’t your Messi

Dey play

Sterling hasn't proven to better than william, not to talk hazard.

Afta messi departure, dembele was messi.

Jodera:
Lol... Wow!
I just want to believe this is a rhetorical question sha!
Lemme just believe it is

Any how you feel

Jodera:
Lol... For you to still Judge a player through transfer fees in this present age and time is surprising.

No wonder the only way you could defend your Hazard ystdy is through his transfer fee to Madrid.

Pls be honest with this question.

were would you rank ordegaard currently?

Jodera:
Lol... For you to still Judge a player through transfer fees in this present age and time is surprising.

No wonder the only way you could defend your Hazard ystdy is through his transfer fee to Madrid.

Are you now downplaying transfer fee?
will a average player command same fee with a world class player?

Jodera:
If that's your personal opinion, then who am I to hold it against you.

We're talking about a general consensus (opinion) here and almost everyone except you will agree that Saka is not average!!

You can still be that Wikipedia-analysts who judge footballers by only Numbers!!

It's your choice bro

Do you believe Arsenal will dish out 70m to buy a average player from ligue 1?

andrewbaba44:
Lewandowski is my top scorer

Sterling is your top scorer

In the last three seasons,dembele was your messi

Jodera:
Football is now internet-first and Statistics before actually judging a player so I won't be surprised if 10yrs from now, Sterling would be termed Goat. Plus he's British, so they might even overhype him ontop.

That's why it's doing me somehow if a good player is talked down or not really acknowledged because of he doesn't have that statistics to back him up. There's big difference between watching someone live and just going to Wikipedia to look at stats in order to judge a player. Na one of the reasons I tackle Real.tord ystdy sha


And as for the bolded, it's true. He's always part of a main team and can never be a main man. And it's very very difficult to be world class if you're not a main man (at least in your department)

if saka is not average then Nik pepe is a top player when he was playing in france, b4 arsenal sign him

People tend to abuse the word WORLD CLASS alots

using just two to three good seasons of a player to rate him to be world class is a big error. Consistency is longetivity, if a player cant stay long to give top performance, he wil neva be world class.

players like courtiho, ronato sanchez, alexis sanchez are guys you think wil stay afloat with the form, but look how short the dipped.

vini
saka
sterling
kimmich
still average!

andrewbaba44:
Sterling is the Messi of Chelsea

Yea, same as dembele to barca

Gerrard off to saudi...
Lampard should follow suit.

WATER has found its level

Chelsea need a experience man in middle

enough of the young star already!

raumdeuter:
I see a player who did what Kante did in the world cup final

So you have no problem with that right?

Jodera:
He's no distractions...
He's right. Like i showed you what you're asking through Ratings, explanations and examples.

How you want make I do am again.?


Okay back to Saka.

Please, Name me your Top 10 best clubs in the world (just your personal Top 10).

I'm getting somewhere with the question..

I hate digression

Bombblacks:
You need to be spoonfed everything?

you are just a distraction.

Bombblacks:
He gave you that as well. The problem is you who don't understand the meaning of an average player.

So who is an average player, a top player and a world class player?

Bombblacks:
He gave you that as well. The problem is you who don't understand the meaning of an average player.

ok, mayb i miss it. Maybe you show me.

Bombblacks:
Have you ever been to school cause you won't be asking this kind of question. He gave you the perfect analogy.

Excellent is B+ to B- : 80 to 90 while World class is A+ to A- : 90 to 100. Even in world class categories they are grades.

How do you now apply this term in football term, in intend of rating an excellent player and world class player using jodera definition?

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Jodera:
I've explained top player and average player for you na

Average player is an inconsistent or basic player's performance.

Top player is a player who produces excellent performance on a consistent level

World class players are players who produces World class performances on a consistent level

The total span across 3years!!

Jodera:
Someone who consistently have 75/100 and someone who consistently have 95/100 are they the same level?

what is excellent and what world class? Any differences

It either Saka is a average player or a world class

no spinning
no inter-switching
no pre-suffix
no sub-suffix

Jodera:
I've explained top player and average player for you na

Average player is an inconsistent or basic player's performance.

Top player is a player who produces excellent performance on a consistent level

World class players are players who produces World class performances on a consistent level

The total span across 3years!!

Jodera, stop playing with words, ur defination for world class and top player is the same. U jst interswitch words for both.
excellent and world class are same!

so you see, it hard to differentiate btw top player and world class player. Stop spinning it for SAKA

Jodera:
Saka is a top player according to general consensus
Hazard is an average player according to you

You now trolling. be honest and define a top player and a average player.

Jodera:
Lol... Why e dey Shame you to defend your legend with Numbers (Same numbers you brought as rules oo).

At least, I fit defend Saka because I was honest enough to claim he's not World class (but a top player)

Oya, You prove that Hazard is world class and slightly behind Messi with Numbers?

jodera, who a top player and average player?

Jodera:
Bro, did I ever claim Saka was World class?

I said Saka is as average as prime Hazard.

If you think Saka is not average as prime Hazard and that Hazard is world class, then bring Numbers!!

Hey, we are not doing saka and hazard comparism here. Pls just stink to saka been average.

Sportsweb:
Bukayo Saka is still an average English boy, same as Rashford

Like, this just the true. Infact rashford is better than saka.
rashford cons is he does not peak for long and that what make him AVERAGE same as saka.

Jodera:
How many Longevity did Haaland have In top leagues?
Abi this one too no be world class?

You already said it yourself, Haaland world class.
there no need for this question.

Jodera:
You yourself said world class players are few.
You called , Mbappe, Neymar, Salah and mostly strikers (I believe it's present crop of active players you're emphasing on).

So from look of things, World class wingers ought to drop 20 league goals CONSISTENTLY.

So yeah, according to your logic of Numbers And Consistency... Does Hazard have the numbers like those wingers?

If yes, bring his numbers!!!

So, has Saka post 20 numbers in a season not be rated AVERAGE?

Forget hazard yet.

Jodera:
Well, well, Well.

Hours ago, you don't believe in ratings but only numbers. Enter Hazard, you now believe in performance rating shebi?

So all the numbers you're maligning Saka for not having, you can't even use that same numbers to make a case for Hazard shebi?

So according to your logic, what's the difference between Saka and Hazard?

Longetivity. Will saka maintain or improve on his numbers at a span period?
this is what wil determine his career!

Jodera:
14-16 league goals on a average? that's his peak

This was someone who was slightly behind Messi shebi?

Na this kind player you dey call exceptional and World class?

Minus assists. For a winger, how many numbers does a winger need to post for seasons to be rated?

Jodera:
Why won't I?

You claimed Hazard was Slightly behind Messi for 3 straight seasonz at least. Prove it with Numbers na!!!

Unless you prove that Hazard was Slightly behind Messi for 3 straight seasonz or you tender an apology for that gaffe, then we might have an understanding

Well be not upto 3 seasons, but there a time Hazard was behind MESSI in performance rating.

Jodera:
Antony was bought for?

You see how you're beating the bush when e reach Hazard turn? You can defend Mbappe, Haaland and if I even bring C Ronaldo, you go defend am with numbers.

But for hazard, for Numbers don disappear. Now na transfer fees, how much he earns, how many man of match, and bla bla bla.

Your simple logic of NUMBERS AND CONSISTENCY flew over the window

hazard numbers were consistent at his peak.

Jodera:
If Saka is average as prime Hazard, then yes I agree.

If you disagree, bring numbers that prime Hazard is slightly behind Messi for 3 seasons in a row

Pls dont do this, using Saka 3 seasons to equate hazard over 6 seasons peak.

Jodera:
If only you agree that Hazard was average here cos their league numbers per season is similar.

Or else, bring Hazard numbers that's slightly behind Messi na

Hazard was bought with 150m

show me a average player that has such market value?