Bombblacks:
You need to be spoonfed everything?

you are just a distraction.

Bombblacks:

He gave you that as well. The problem is you who don't understand the meaning of an average player.

So who is an average player, a top player and a world class player?

Bombblacks:

He gave you that as well. The problem is you who don't understand the meaning of an average player.

ok, mayb i miss it. Maybe you show me.

Bombblacks:

Have you ever been to school cause you won't be asking this kind of question. He gave you the perfect analogy.

Excellent is B+ to B- : 80 to 90 while World class is A+ to A- : 90 to 100. Even in world class categories they are grades.

How do you now apply this term in football term, in intend of rating an excellent player and world class player using jodera definition?

Jodera [/quote][quote author=Jodera:

I've explained top player and average player for you na

Average player is an inconsistent or basic player's performance.

Top player is a player who produces excellent performance on a consistent level

World class players are players who produces World class performances on a consistent level

The total span across 3years!!

Jodera:
Someone who consistently have 75/100 and someone who consistently have 95/100 are they the same level?

what is excellent and what world class? Any differences

It either Saka is a average player or a world class

no spinning
no inter-switching
no pre-suffix
no sub-suffix

Jodera:

I've explained top player and average player for you na

Average player is an inconsistent or basic player's performance.

Top player is a player who produces excellent performance on a consistent level

World class players are players who produces World class performances on a consistent level

The total span across 3years!!

Jodera, stop playing with words, ur defination for world class and top player is the same. U jst interswitch words for both.
excellent and world class are same!

so you see, it hard to differentiate btw top player and world class player. Stop spinning it for SAKA

Jodera:
Saka is a top player according to general consensus
Hazard is an average player according to you

You now trolling. be honest and define a top player and a average player.

Jodera:


Lol... Why e dey Shame you to defend your legend with Numbers (Same numbers you brought as rules oo).

At least, I fit defend Saka because I was honest enough to claim he's not World class (but a top player)

Oya, You prove that Hazard is world class and slightly behind Messi with Numbers?

jodera, who a top player and average player?

Jodera:

Bro, did I ever claim Saka was World class?

I said Saka is as average as prime Hazard.

If you think Saka is not average as prime Hazard and that Hazard is world class, then bring Numbers!!

Hey, we are not doing saka and hazard comparism here. Pls just stink to saka been average.

Sportsweb:
Bukayo Saka is still an average English boy, same as Rashford

Like, this just the true. Infact rashford is better than saka.
rashford cons is he does not peak for long and that what make him AVERAGE same as saka.

Jodera:


How many Longevity did Haaland have In top leagues?
Abi this one too no be world class?

You already said it yourself, Haaland world class.
there no need for this question.

Jodera:

You yourself said world class players are few.
You called , Mbappe, Neymar, Salah and mostly strikers (I believe it's present crop of active players you're emphasing on).

So from look of things, World class wingers ought to drop 20 league goals CONSISTENTLY.

So yeah, according to your logic of Numbers And Consistency... Does Hazard have the numbers like those wingers?

If yes, bring his numbers!!!

So, has Saka post 20 numbers in a season not be rated AVERAGE?

Forget hazard yet.

Jodera:
Well, well, Well.

Hours ago, you don't believe in ratings but only numbers. Enter Hazard, you now believe in performance rating shebi?

So all the numbers you're maligning Saka for not having, you can't even use that same numbers to make a case for Hazard shebi?

So according to your logic, what's the difference between Saka and Hazard?

Longetivity. Will saka maintain or improve on his numbers at a span period?
this is what wil determine his career!

Jodera:
14-16 league goals on a average? that's his peak

This was someone who was slightly behind Messi shebi?

Na this kind player you dey call exceptional and World class?

Minus assists. For a winger, how many numbers does a winger need to post for seasons to be rated?

Jodera:
Why won't I?

You claimed Hazard was Slightly behind Messi for 3 straight seasonz at least. Prove it with Numbers na!!!

Unless you prove that Hazard was Slightly behind Messi for 3 straight seasonz or you tender an apology for that gaffe, then we might have an understanding

Well be not upto 3 seasons, but there a time Hazard was behind MESSI in performance rating.

Jodera:
Antony was bought for?

You see how you're beating the bush when e reach Hazard turn? You can defend Mbappe, Haaland and if I even bring C Ronaldo, you go defend am with numbers.

But for hazard, for Numbers don disappear. Now na transfer fees, how much he earns, how many man of match, and bla bla bla.

Your simple logic of NUMBERS AND CONSISTENCY flew over the window

hazard numbers were consistent at his peak.

Jodera:
If Saka is average as prime Hazard, then yes I agree.

If you disagree, bring numbers that prime Hazard is slightly behind Messi for 3 seasons in a row

Pls dont do this, using Saka 3 seasons to equate hazard over 6 seasons peak.

Jodera:

If only you agree that Hazard was average here cos their league numbers per season is similar.

Or else, bring Hazard numbers that's slightly behind Messi na

Hazard was bought with 150m

show me a average player that has such market value?

Jodera:


Oga, na numbers I need no be This bolded you dey talk. Na numbers you dey use malign Saka and na wetin you use claim say Haaland and Mbappe na World class.

Bring that Numbers wey Messi take pass Hazard slightly for 3 seasons in a row.

I don tell you say we don finish Saka matter.

1.. He doesn't have numbers
2... Hazard is exceptional because he had numbers

Oya bring Hazard numbers wey make am slightly behind Messi for 3 seasons in a row

Let agreed on SAKA First

Jodera:
We don finish with Saka oo.
We must digress.

You must show us that numbers wey Hazard get slightly behind Messi for 3 seasons in a row.

Ahhh... You wey dey shout numbers numbers like say na you invent Abacus.

You must show us oo

So you have agreed that SAKA is stil average?

Jodera:
Oga, I brought hazards number to show that even when you people are hyping him here at Chelsea, his numbers wasn't that great yet he's been acknowledged as a great player. So why can't Saka be acknowledged as a great player too.

But you brought a claim that Hazard was Slightly behind Messi. Not just one nor 2 seasons. Not even 3 seasons but more than 3 seasons in a row!!

Omorr, you must show us ooo

hazard had a great peak, his man of the match Award was only behind MESSI.

pls let stay true to actual point, SAKA

Jodera:
Realtord I'll need both goals and assists of Hazard numbers being slightly behind Messi 3 seasons in a row

(You see that "more than" wey you put, I dash you that one. Na just the 3 seasons in a row I only need)


I go like learn new things today!!!

Let not digress pls, focus is still SAKA

Jodera:
Realtord I'll need both goals and assists of Hazard numbers being slightly behind Messi 3 seasons in a row

(You see that "more than" wey you put, I dash you that one. Na just the 3 seasons in a row I only need)


I go like learn new things today!!!

Are we now towing the part of HAZARD or you want to deviate from SAKA.
We are talking SAKA

Jodera:
Hazard league numbers (goals) at Lille

0, 4, 5, 7, 20

Hazard league numbers(goals) at Chelsea

9, 14, 14, 4, 16, 12, 16.

Yet you'll claim these are world class numbers.

Realtord, if you can accept that Hazard was really an average average player at Chelsea and Lille, then we'll have an understanding

you have brought Mbappe, Haaland and now Hazard, just to fit saka.

these are just goals, what abt assists?
Hazard was slightly behind Messi in more than 3 season in a row. Hope you know what it mean to be only behind MESSI?

HAZARD was exceptional for vast period of time.
SAKA hasn't had great peak of form to be rated above AVERAGE.

Jodera:
In all aspects of life that requires results, there's always rating and grading else how would you measure or qualify someone's success.
Your school makes use of grading/rank/rating
Your place of work make use of grading/rank/rating
Even buying in online stores or sort, they'll still require you to give them rating about your experience with them.

But you think a whole Football shouldn't have ratings and that it's fans that just makes it up.?

Even balon dor and club ranking should should give you a clue but No, ... You feel Football should be an extremity (Average and World class only)

Do you know what's called average?
Anything that requires categorization, Average itself is a poor quality

SAKA numba are still average from the past 3 seasons.

were would you now place a player with average numbers?

popizaino:



Saka is not average pls,let be guided. The guy is world class everyday and twice on Mondays.

Sir, hope you know saka is still a young lad?

if you see saka as world class at this stage of his career then Saka has nothing to play for or improve on!

iamoyindamola:
Going by all these beer parlor analysis
It's safe to call hidden part time world class player

I believe you watch hazard during his lille days and how many season did he spent at chelsea?

andrewbaba44:


Below average
Average
Above average/top class
World class

You can’t just pass average and jump to world class ,never

oya, what the difference bet average and above average/top class player?

Jodera:
in a ranking from 1-100.

50-59 is average players

60-69 is good players

70-80 is Top players

90-100 is world class players


Even normal school results have gradings sef.

Na players you wan come use extremities to grade dem(ie It's either the player is World class or he's average — no in betweens)


Dey play Sir

all this words are invested by fans to rate their favorite.

calling a player average doesn't mean is not good or a top player, the real difference between average and world class is your CONSISTENCE.

A Average player can give 2 good season top performance and will go DIP next season, most are just on and off with their form but world class is consistent, improving every season on their numbers.

SAKA is categories in the average class.

andrewbaba44:


There is what we call above average

When you pass been average, you become world class

Jodera:
He is a Top player.

Still not above been rated average.