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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 3:27pm On Sep 03, 2025
swiz123:
You are highly correct. I have schooled Popizaino on this but he is very stubborn. A player might be good at farming stats but choke when the career defining situations arises. Saka is a solid candidate here.

Some players show world class potentials but would later just fall off. That is why consistency is prerequisite.
Exactly, consistency is paramount.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 3:24pm On Sep 03, 2025
swiz123:
Wrong. A potential world class player can attain a world class status if they are consistent and win important trophies with their performance being integral to the team’s success.

So it isn’t a potential, it is a status.
Simple.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 3:22pm On Sep 03, 2025
AirBere:
Yamal for me is world class simply because he'll be the first name on the team sheet of any team you can think of right now. Players, fans, managers are already seeing him as the best or one of the very best.

For Spain, he's their best player after Rodri. For Barca, he's outrightly thier best player right now.

Of course it's subjective so to each, their own.
Where you around during Ansu fati era?

That should answer your question why you shouldn't be in a rush to Rate a player with less than 5 seasons to his name.

Ansu fati was so good then, some were saying he will surpass Messi Career, his potentials was so high then just like Yamal.

Let not rush Yamal yet because I believe there is more to come from him and he hasn't peak fully yet.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 3:11pm On Sep 03, 2025
MorataFC:
Saying a player must play at their peak for five years before we call them world-class is too strict. In today’s football, world-class means being one of the best in your position right now, not after serving time. With stats and tough competitions to judge from, it’s easier to spot when a player is already performing at the very top level.

A world-class player should be judged by their numbers, how well they perform in big games, and how much they improve their team. Some players can show this in just one or two seasons, especially if they are playing in the best leagues or major tournaments.

Also, not every world-class player has to break records. You can be world-class without breaking a single record, does it mean a striker has to score 91 goals in a calendar year like Messi before he can be called world-class? Definitely not. Defenders, midfielders, and playmakers can be world-class because they control games, stop opponents, or create chances that change results. Consistency truly matters, but world-class is really about beinh among the best in the world at your time, and players can prove that without waiting for donkey years.
Well, seem some of us have high expectations from players, if you can use a player one or two seasons to call him World class, then that fair from you, but I won't do that. Cause I have seen players with one or two good seasons but fell off, they couldn't peak, I can't call such players World class.

Consistent is key is even if you are not performing at the level of a world class, reasons why clubs sell players if their performance drop. As a player, you have to be at your best for certain period of time either to be rated as a good player or a world class player.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 2:48pm On Sep 03, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]The potential is my point.

He shared a list of young players. A 28 years old is the oldest there. How can you say there's no World class player there, even though we know time can change it or not?

People break sporting records at 18, 20, 21. What years of consistency do you think they have?

Yamal is a World class player as at today. Over time, he will prove it with stats.[/color]
If you are saying a player is World class, then the stats is there to prove it already and his performance over a time. I don't see how a world class class will need time to prove that he is truly a world class player.

I think maybe if you use the word World class prodigy, then you may be right. Remember, Ansu fati was already getting world class shouts from Barca fans before his injuries crisis. Potentials to be a world class was there for all to see but he couldn't live to it. This are the issues why consistency is key, one don't know what may happen.

But if you insist Yamal is already world class, that's fine.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 2:18pm On Sep 03, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]I have asked what the stat of an 18 year old should look like nau?

Just give me an idea.[/color]
All am saying is that, you can't call a 18yrs old player World class who literally hasn't have up to 5 season of professional football to his name, performance or stats wise, less than 5 seasons is not good enough to rate a player up to a world class level.

But if you feel one or two seasons is good enough, then that's generous from you, but that mean we may have many players who are world class.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 2:08pm On Sep 03, 2025
raumdeuter:
Serious Chelsea fans know the truth


Because na legend for your club does not make him a world class player. Carragher might be called a Liverpool legend but was never world class
of course, you are right.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 1:55pm On Sep 03, 2025
AirBere:
grin grin

You don go microwave raumdeuter food lol
He literally sacrifice his club legend to win an argument
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 1:53pm On Sep 03, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Yamal is 18.

What should be the World class stat for an 18 year old?[/color]
Well maybe we should also call Estevao world class because he is 18yrs with almost same numbers of Yamal stats then?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 1:22pm On Sep 03, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]So there's was something to be seen right?

A World class player just has time to prove it. Nothing more.

The same way Haaland and Mbappe came out, is the same way Isak and Ekitike will have to prove it.

Yamal is World class, and he's 18. Or should we say Yamal needs 10 seasons to prove it?[/color]
How can you say Yamal is world class when he literally just have one good season, what we are seeing from Yamal now is his potentials, we don't know how long it will last.

He should be consistent for at least 3yrs more with his performance and improve on his stats.

His current stats is not a world class level player yet

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 12:45pm On Sep 03, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]World class is a potential, and not seasons upon seasons.

If the potential is there, the person can be World class, and time will prove it.

Ronaldo was already World class in Manchester United.[/color]
Ronaldo literally spent 8yrs with Man united, won the the Balon d'or. He Play his best football as a true winger that he his in Man united.

His potential was at Sporting CP, his peak performance started right from Man united, he was already a world class player when he left United for Madrid.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 12:30pm On Sep 03, 2025
People will just use World class on players because the have a good few seasons.


exceptional skill, unparalleled consistency over time, the ability to perform at their peak in high-pressure situations, and a profound impact on their team's success.

See the bolded, that is what define a world class players for me, you must peak for at least 5yrs in performance, stats wise, your numbers should not diminished, set a record, break a record or match your record.

Consistently is key to reach that World class status. Just two good yrs cannot give a player a World class status, people saying Isak, Wirtz and Caicedo are world class is quite bizarre, just two good season is not enough to get a world class shout.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 7:17am On Sep 03, 2025
FBS:
spambot no gree person post update

will try again
Drop link
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 8:29pm On Sep 02, 2025
Sportsweb:
NONE.
absolutely None. Infact, apart from Messi and Ronaldo who are still playing football, I don't think there are up to 5 players who are currently world class
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 8:27pm On Sep 02, 2025
Shegzdave:
Osihmen and Isak only
So osihmen and Isak are world class? undecided
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 8:07pm On Sep 01, 2025
Amigoss:
Transfer deadline day 101

If the deal sheet is submitted before deadline then they have a further two hours to get it completed
Crystal palace unable to sign Guehi replacement and you expect them to approve Guehi sale
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 8:03pm On Sep 01, 2025
Amigoss:
Na you off am cheesy

Guehi transfer still get till 9pm cool, we don bribe English fa grin
undecided

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 8:01pm On Sep 01, 2025
Omoluabi16:
Guehi for 35m is a good deal. An England international.. tested and proven.
Deal has collapse!!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 2:32pm On Sep 01, 2025
Unlimited22:
George to Fulham.


Sterling, Chilwell and Disasi left
Instead of Sterling undecided
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Realtord43: 12:33pm On Sep 01, 2025
From Onana to this 👇
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Realtord43: 12:18pm On Sep 01, 2025
odizeey:
Onana bye bye
Quite unfair to say the least, gave all his best for the club, won a trophy even when the club was in shambles and this is how the treat him.

He will surely move on to even a bigger and better club than Relegation threaten United
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 12:11pm On Sep 01, 2025
popizaino:
I feel we don't appreciate Cristiano enough. Every player who went through this kind of mean challenges got injured along. From Ronaldo delima,Owen,etc.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DM3Aromsack/?igsh=ZnRpanN1eGI1eW51
Have you seen Messi against Madrid in the era of Pepe and Ramos?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 12:05pm On Sep 01, 2025
Vischy:
Benfica got 2 good defensive midfielders in Enzo berrenchea and Richard Rios as replacement.

we play them as 2nd ucl game on September 30.
that Richard Rios is from Palmiera I think, good player.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 12:03pm On Sep 01, 2025
Any renegotiating deal for Jackson should be for permanent sale. Let end the bad blood once and for all.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Realtord43: 11:59am On Sep 01, 2025
Pass through United and see your career diminished, it's not just for the coaches only, even players are seeing their bright career taking a toll.

Amorim is next!!!!!

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 11:43am On Sep 01, 2025
Payporte01:
Apart from wirtz,tah, frimpong, and xhaka who else?,
How many more do want to lists, are this not enough to destablized a team, this players you list were the best and impactful players for Leverkusen since Xavi Alonso took over, now Hincapie is joining Arsenal.

Bayer Leverkusen are quite unfair to Ten Hag
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 10:56am On Sep 01, 2025
Just two games in and Leverkusen sack Ten Hag, can't blame him though, the have sold almost all their impactful and best players, how do the want Ten Hag to have an immediate impact with the new the players.

This is quick fire from from Leverkusen
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 10:13am On Sep 01, 2025
andrewbaba44:
Donnaruma is a world class GK and will start for any team not having courtois and maybe Allison

But I don’t think it was a needed signing for city
Trafford is not all that good, so he can't fully replace Ederson. Donnaruma should be better for City but he's not a ball playing Goalkeeper.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 10:06am On Sep 01, 2025
Kimbeast:
I am loving the fact that we no longer have any excuse not to win the league. Watching with a relax mind.
How do you want us to compete with Liverpool now?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 7:17am On Sep 01, 2025
monerozi5590:
The same person that rated Gallagher, Hojbjerg and don't rate Rodri is the same person that said Elliott is better than Szobozlai. grin grin grin.

I wonder how Ibime sees football sometimes. He has a thing for mechanical players grin grin grin
😂
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 4:29pm On Aug 30, 2025
🚨 EXCLUSIVE: Chelsea inform Bayern Munich they will not be proceeding with proposed loan of Nicolas Jackson after injury to Liam Delap. 24yo striker travelled to Germany for #FCBayern move but #CFC requested Senegal int’l returns to London @TheAthleticFC.

Jackson is coming back
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Realtord43: 11:31am On Aug 30, 2025
Chelsea against Jackson on UCL matchday 1

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