₦airaland Forum

yarimo:
Congratulations Mr fayose

Dey there dey shout congratulation everytime like billboard at APC gate

all your intentional foolery here, when dem go find something for you, we call it "apppintment for the boyz"

Fayose has being redelpoy officially, Before is job is special adviser and rapid response on Seyi makinde affairs 🤣

Very shameless lots

[quote author=nairalanda1 post=140053538]

Okay, to subsidise fuel for this year 2026 would cost between N38-54 TRILLION naira, or nearly two thirds of our budget...and that keeps fuel at a low price.

The 1st logical is how did you even arrive at that Figure ! Do we even have accurate consumption data or just thieves give estimate to suite corruption
My 2nd is, the total amount lost to corruption & govt extravanga spending is it lesser than #38trillion

Plus all those countries you mention, subsides are not for everyone,...to qualify your income must be checked by government to really make sure you need the money...and then they go pay you.

False ! In uk/us subsidize grocery are Open bracket not restrictd ... cos of the co- existing trust between govt and her people, they know people won't abuse the previlege. Pls call your people in uk, us, germany food, health are subsidy you can opt in or out its your choice

And production subsides, where the company gets the benefit, not the masses...are more common there

C'mon what are you saying, Subsidy benefit businesses and encourages mass production, beyond that you need know "subsidy" influences a better standard & cost of living on the people.

And then if someone suggests you pay the type of tax they pay in those countries , you won't agree.

Bro i am tired of Tinubu boiz puttin up dis defence, estimated everything we incure in 9ja cummulative is above whatever tax they pay in Uk

In Uk, the heavy tax you pay cut your expenses on medical bills, tution, transport and groceries, you save money not buying fuel every night
As a nigerian when i look at how much i spend on fixing my Car cos of bad road in my area ... How much ni Tax if i sum up all the amount i incure cos of govt absence, I pay vigilante bill every month ... When you subtract all dis from your monthly income, what is ideal Tax compared

Missapropriations is part of the story, and the same thing happens in those countries where you have subsides for the poor...corruption galore (see the US investigating SNAP...and it is not the first time such things have happened

there )

Even though i dont full agree with the misappropriation, its debateable, You must agree The impact of Taxes is visible and reflective in those climes, you see your tax working everywhere you go.
thats what matter to me, thats what count

The problem is, if say government budgets N5 trillion for subsidy for this year, and rising oil prices push the subsidy costs to N15 trillion, where would the money come from?

Bro, subsidy or no subsidy, the kind of coreuption going on under Tinubu pass 5trillion. Did you check how much nigeria have paid as ransom under Tinubu ... But Subsidy we alienate Nigeria from the map

just imagine Tinubu had picked New refinery over coastal road, lets even assume we are borrowing All money to build one refinery of dangote standard ... Do you what that " incoming" will be doing to our economy compare to coastal road, can that road pay loan back like production

nairalanda1:
Which is why i oppose subsidies. BECAUSE it takes away money from other parts of the budget and leaves us with unfinished projects and debt.

LOL..and people abuse me for holding that view.

Subsidies can be the Monster under any guise or POV, the Fact that in most develop countries Govt is either subsidying food or education or health, is enough attestation Subsidy is a good sense of Govt presence and commitment to make life better for the people

subsidy is not why we have deficit budget in Nigeria for gods sake, See All the misappropriations, fake project, fake agencies and the boggus amount allocated to extravagant govt recurrent expenditures for some few people

Atiku just expose another 60bn appropriated for world cup wey we no qualify ... corruption is the enemy here not subsidy

Since subsidy is gone, have we not borrowed more money than subsidy ... Since the subsidy removal how as it being a relief on national budget

nairalanda1:
Bringing back subsidy from January 1 2026 would have cost the government ₦38 trillion to ₦52 trillion this year.

7.1 trillion is too small for subsidy costs if there was a subsidy being paid

Modified

Basically, Oseni was referring to the partial subsidy (which government lied about) that was paid between October 2023 and april 2024. (I of course saw what was happening and was amused by the lies. The figures were even public knowledge back then).

What pisses people off is that the subsides did nothing to reduce oil prices . Of course it won't To really reduce oil prices, government would have had to pay far more than that and over a longer period of time.

As far as we know, no subsidy has been paid since may 2024, and if government has been doing it since then, may the gods have mercy on us, because our debt would eventually rise to levels not seen in anyone's lifetimes.



Modifed 2

People think that a subsidy coming back at that time would have reduced prices to N200 or less. That;s not how it works.

lets believe you are right, Please explain what energy security expenses entail

Mind you, Dangote as taking over major supply esp. In 2026

and why the introduction or is a regular " entry"

AntiChristian:
Many of you come online and communicate like toddlers due to the bias covering your thoughts! UN comming to investigate a domestic Kidnap and rescue case! Abegi!

Uncle ! Even if your arguement is UN doesn't have the expertise, they can still outsource the to required Expert under the UN
Why the UN, cos thats one body n
Both parties involved can trust or @least not influence
As far as Nigeria is concern UN neutrality is 100%

Is Nigeria elections not domestic, do we not have foreign organisation coming to accredit
The gorilla warfare we find ourselves is it not Domestic, did we not bring in American troops recently

You want to talk Domestic,. It is not the foreign intelligence that gave us credible intelligence about bandits migrating through our borders and got iswap number 2 killed

Do you think our affairs are really nd countries like US don't know more about whats happening in Nigeria more than you & i sef

In a situation both state & fG dont trust themselves, is it not only logical for the external body to be involved

Can dss, icpc, police ..dogs of presidency bite hand that feeds them.. they dont have the Credibility

Image123:
Except you are in the deep forest somewhere unknown, it is become quite easy to pick you up with the use of technology like IP tracing, NIN and co. Except you're on the move or not on internet or using someone else's phone. Don't be a sitting duck. This fellow held an online interview very recently, plus his family was also questioned recently. Don't think you are very anonymous.

Phone & sim is the magic, people cant do without it, you must have it and has long as you have those two on you ...tech wil find You

Can people live without phone n sim.... NO 🤷

can they please shutup and stop insulting our intelligence ...before the naira for crude came into effect where they not Sourcing there dollar to buy

Where these not the same marketers that insisted on importation and even claim importation is cheaper than dangote fuel

Wont they need " dollar" to import, if it wasnt a problem then why should it be a problem now, or in the last 3yrs have you seen dem complain they cant get $ to import, so why now

We are just unbelievable set of human beings, we bring artificial problems into situations just to extort and make more money

AntiChristian:
So na UN go come help you investigate yourself?

See black man inferior mentality!

Has any white man country ever reach out to you black men to come mediate in their affairs?

You still need to be recolonised!

Why not, incase you don't know UN can help to serve an independent audit

Incase Govt seems complicit, esp.the Dss , police and judiciary are appendages of the Govt ...with which mouth will DSs say Govt is found involve
have you in your entire life seen where police or DSs hold Govt culpable, the ruling govt is always above the law nd DSS, ICpc, police all work to cover up FG crime they see as time to prove loyalty

You can"t gaslight me with inferiority mentality, this is Nigeria where govt is full of shits, we must acknowledge the truth .... a Govt can not investigate herself nd come out with truth that will damage her reputation

Why are you afraid, if you are innocent ...let people bring external or internal investigator it won't

The develop nations can't reach out to a shitty Nigeria, they see how shameless your leaders steal public fund and hurt the people in the name of playing " politics" .. they have a independent better system why should they need us

now we call on UN its back men inferior mentality, but govt/politicians all run abroad to treat even malaria ...that is superior mentality abi

Ttalk:
It's not about who talked, it's about NL megalomanias who are swarming on a reckless comment by the governor

According to you, any voice against Tinubu or Apc must be obedient ...how is that even logical

So me that voted AC, Voted APC in 2015 till 2023 ...becos i criticize Tinubu now i am obedient

Atiku had over 7million votes in 2023 where did it come from ? Ghost

AntiChristian:
Sometimes i usually think some of our leaders are ....AD

Everything is wrong with what Seyi said. In fact, he won't last in politics.

He claimed the kidnap occured as a result of him declaring his Presidential ambition!

Does he even stand a chance to secure the president of South West Nigeria alone not to talk of Nigeria?

Who has his time? After he trends with his politics about the survivors of the kidnap, he'll go back into his shell.

He's the foremost Governor against LG autonomy. Give the LG their money and stop controlling them.

why not start from the beginning ....when the incident happened, Fayose a mouth piece of Wike/Tinubu came out to accuse Seyi makinde directly he wasnt subtle ...he alleged seyi orchesrated the kidnap to tarnish the president, they APC start with " politics"

That automatical implies Seyi makinde has his a name to clear ..beyond talk or emotion
If Seyi decides to play politics back we cant really discredit his move for independent investigation ... @least it either exposes Seyi as evil or innocent

SO why exactly the presidency jittery, why are they always resistance to independent investigation

The fake agency ...they dont want independent investigation as well, where the govt seems indicted is it not fair for justice an independent body deal with it

Ttalk:
Look at the people who defended Peter Obi for getting injunction not to appear at panel of enquiry set up to address police brutality and extra judicial killings in Anambra during Obi tenure are now running mouth in support of international enquiry.

Hypocrisy of the Obidients stink

according to you Nigeria is divided into APC & obedient

If Seyi made a Statement, it as to be obedient that support ... 250million Nigerians divided into two group

If Peter talk nd you attack obedient e make But for a Seyi ...e no just add up

Nteogwuija:
Baba, no vex. Read my post well.

Na small sarcasm

bros, eye dey shook oo .... Make sarcasm dey sacarsm well

this Apc people dont mean well for Nigerians ... We should take 2027 Nigeria vs APC/Tinubu/Fans

If you can't afford boiled egg buy mushroom chop thats where Tinubu & is unfortunate supporters are taking average nigeria, compelling us to suffer nd say its sacrafice whereas they are feeding fan like worms inside soakaway

Nteogwuija:
Food is also expensive in the US and UK. No manner of propaganda by the opposition and Obidients will stop Asiwaju Jagaban from re-election in 2027.

Shebi I do the data boys work well?

Can you and your likes borrow " shame" in advance

Yes we agree, inflation and surge in prices are a global phenomenon Buh however their is no developed country where govt is not actively subsidizing food products.
I challenge you prove me wrong i go send you 20k

I find it disturbing that apc touts & nuisances are here online defending nunsense,
If Peter Obi or Atiku had won election in 2023 ... Can Tinubu accept the state of Nigeria today nd not protest

Can Tinubu accept Nigeria of today .. If na Obi run am dis way

mrvitalis:
How can 30% approve Tinubu? How? Are they mentally ok?

You see the direction we are heading and you are like this is what I voted for? This is what I want for Nigeria?

Have you forgotten the 8.6 sumtin votes Tinubu got came from people.

One thing you must accept, No matter how terrible or wicked a Leader is he must have some followers, he will have people that will love how he is puttin pepper in people eye ... In as much they are not affected and they are benefitting

What is paramount here is the Fact that 30% falls within F9, and its a true reflection of what we have been saying even on this forum .. nothing is working

when Tinubu went to mosque for eid ... A journalist aaked him a simple question what are you doing about insecurity ??
What did Tinubu say infact i cover my eye in shame .. this man a complete disgrace to we yorubas

Anyone that can make sense of what Tinubu responded to that journalist ... I will drop 20k. Make it make sense

[quote author=demstone post=139545528

]TRUMP UNDER PMB CALLED NIGERIA A " SHEET HOLE"

under PMB is same as APC incase you dont know anything, and calling Nigeria a sheet hole at the time was about the poor living standard of Nigerians then which is completely different " country of great concern" .. that is talking squarely about killings and insecurity level read his full speech he talked about xtain genocide ... so be quiet

OBAMA LIKE IDRISS DERBY REFUSED TO ALLOW AMERICAN SOLDIERS WORK WITH D NIGERIAN ARMY..

OBAMA SAID OUR SOLDIERS COULDNT B TRUSTED..

Us sent soldiers to rescue the chibok gurlz then, but on arrival they discern the operation as being compromise they left and till today America still dont trust our soldiers, they strike independently and just give diplomatic courtesy to Nigeria govt.
The dec 25 air strike naija govt did not know, buh US play diplomacy with naija govt aftermaths ... even Nigerians dont trust our govt or millitary talkmore of outsider

TODAY EVEN TRUMP IS CELEBRATING THE NIGERIAN ARMY..
BUT I KNOW U CAN NEVER SEE THAT

Why are you completely shamelezz, you go just dey lie, show me where Trump celebrated Nigeria Army .. for what ?? So far they have not recorded any major vivtory so celebrate for what.
How do you live with yourself, living in lies bro

IF U SAY WE FOUGHT TERRORISM VIGOROUSLY BTW 2010 ND 2023
I REPEAT
TELL ME ONE TERRORIST LEADER KPAID
WHILE TERRORISM EXPANDED FROM

You are naive, boko haram founder mohammed yusuf was killed as early as 2009 sef, and guess what it did not stop boko haram operation from continuity

Abubakar shekua long serving boko haram leader was killed in 2021
Incase you are a child, there was one Kabiru sokoto that masterminded xmas bombing dec 2011 he was re-arrested in shettima lodge in asokoro sentenced to life imprisonment. One thing we've learnt over time killing one commander give rise to another. So thats why its not worth the jubilation anymore



What we should be doing differently now is to eradicate there sponspors, clamp down heavily on their fund channels ... If we can do that Maybe we will start to jubilate soon

[quote author=demstone post=139542672]

WHEN WARS ARE GENUINELY FOUGHT PEOPLE GET KPAID ON BOTH SIDES

D FACT DAT GENERALS GET KPAID ONLY SHOWS HOW COURAGEOUS OUR GENERALS HAVE BECOME

I can please borrow some shame, imagine what he is saying, To get to one general on war front do you know how many soldiers would have died, you this Tinubu boiz are full of shit, i don't get
Even in russia ukraine war you dont see them losing Generals to proof of " courage" what kind of fuulish talk is that

No country jokes with a General life, cos losing Generals shows the enemies have Upper head .. nothing more

THE GREAT & COURAGEOUS IDRIS DERBY FORMER PRESIDENT OF CHAD DIED FIGHTING THIS SAME P

Imagine the example he is citing, chad sii Nigeria .. Lagos GDP is over $55 billion and chad GDP hovers $20 billion thats the country you want to compare Nigeria to .. I wish Tinubu idris derby fate then

WHILE ALIVE HE CALLED NIGERIAN SOLDIERS COWARDS WHO RUN AWAY FROM BATTLE

He died brave that will be on record, and Nigeria soldier that are hiding n dodging like cowards are dieing as well ... that will also be on record
The difference between chad & Nigeria is govt is not waking up every day to drop money in the bush for criminals killing her people

TODAY NOBODY DEARS CALL OUR SOLDIERS THAT

Do you even think b4 you talk, havent you read of villages that chase soldiers away that they dont even trust them anymore they are complicit, what respect is left for military that are slaughtered like fowl on tik tok videos and govt comes out to say the killers are there prodigal sons

I REPEAT !!
UNDER GEJ & PMB
INSECURITY GREW FROM

BORNO TO EBONYI ND ENUGU

BORNO TO KADUNA TO SOKOTO

SOKOTO TO ABUJA TO KOGI TO KWARA TO IBADAN ND ONDO

MENTION JUST ONE TOP BANDIT LEADER THAT WAS KPAID DURING THERE 16YR PERIOD OF MASSIVE EXPANSION
ISIS KPAID SHEKAU

your lies wont change the fact, People know the damn truth, Donald trump did call Nigeria a country of great concern under Gej or Buhari .. So your lies are not only baseless makes no sense

Under GEJ n Buhari we didnt see Terrorist on Tik tok flaunting money , we didnt see GEJ release terrorist and dash them millions as prodigal son

demstone:
ABBA ABUBAKAR THE LEADER OF MAHMUDA CAPTURED ALIVE 2025

ABU BARA INTERNATIONALLY WANTED TERRORRIST ND LEADER OF ANSARU 1 & 2 CAPTURED ALIVE 2025

MAIGEMU & DANDO SIBU LEADERS OF LAKURAWA KPAID

ABU KALID . ABU FATIMA & MANY BOKO HARAM LEADERS KPAID

ABU BILAL ALMINUKI NUMBER 2 MAN OF ISIS KPAID IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE US

GEJ ND PMB COULDNT EVEN GET SHEKAU , INFACT IT TOOK ISIS TO KPAI SHEKAU..
DIS U WOULD NEVER SEE

BUT U ALLOWED TO SEE WHAT U WANT TO SEE

The you think writing in capital leader can a make your gibberish talk make sensw or what

Now if your arguement is that GEJ & Buhari couldnt kill any major leader of terrorist is that the metric or way to scale insecurity

Let me Give you Facts, Under Gej insecurity was limited a certain zones of the north and bandits, nigerians could still move freely in major parts of the country. we dont see boko haram on tik tok posting money & daring our military

under Buhari, we dont have bandits killing Generals, we dont see bandit demanding compensations for lost motor cycles, under Buhari lots of school children are in kidnappers den across south & north

Under your Tinubu govt you claimed to have killed bandit leader ... What is insecurity rate in 2023 and what is it now thats the only metrics to judge

Can you lie that insecurity & death rate as gone down compare to Buhari time, infact bandits have killed more military General than the number of bandit leaders killed under Tinubu govt .. Go n verify stop talking gibberish

Tinubu govt is the worst compared to past govt. The most painful part is that he does not care so far he can do all those politics theatrics

demstone:
WHEN NDC SAID THEY GOT 12M REGISTERED MEMBERS WITHIN 48HRS OF OBI DECAMPING
DID U SEE APC PANICK?

AT THE END OF D DAY NDC SUBMITTED JUST 700K MEMBERS TO INEC

WHILE
APC SAYS DEY HAVE 12M
DEY SUBMITTED 12M LIST TO INEC
ND CLAIM 10.9 VOTED TINUBU

WHY ARE U PANICKING

Panicking !! With all the videos we see online how 1,-5 jumps to 100 to 1000 then 100k 🤣

Is that the panick, we cant shame the shamelezz we know you people are terribly shameless

ALL you guyz shout is Tinubu strategist ... Where is the strategy in fighting insecurity differently

Tinubu build people, is it to strengthen Nigeria or just to strengthen himself,
look around how many these people Tinubu built are doing Nigeria great today. ... Ribadu in security is he do Nigeria good or just doing Tinubu good

before wale edun resgned what good are these Tinubu products doing Nigeria at the moment, is it cardoso or Amupitan. Obviously they are only doing good to Tinubu not national interest

What is my gain if only Tinubu is gaining, how is Tinubu building the country great at the moment

Ironfaceman:

I'm sorry to say Peter Obi is not a serious politician, truth be tol
Upon hearing the total number of APC members, one would have expected him to throw questions at the ruling party with regards to credibility

and how is questioning apc credibility going to change anything, is APC after credibility does it look like APC care what Nigerians think so far they win

[b]Instead he is going to southafrica to meet who and to discuss what. As a minister or ambassador. He knows the government is backing xenophobia  and he lacks the authority or locus standi to bring a redress.

Small thinking small, its not peter obi that will convince APC, it must be Nigerians that will show apc that we regular voters are more than apc member
Buhari did not win by apc member votes, the people removed jonathan

Going into the general election with 12 million people is a good upper-hand.

You lie ! Stop disguising they claim they have 12 million buh in 2023 Tinubu won by just 8m+ votes what happen

They dropped this inflated figures to perfect rigging ahead just like they did in 2023. every right think person know the numbers na lie

OneCandleAway:
That ondo governor aiyedatiwa might be the happiest with this decision. The man is seriously looking for a second term

seems you dont follow news, Aiyedatiwa case as being tried in court already he is not eligible for 2nd cos the law was actively mended during his tenure

In jonathans case the amendment came after Jonathan had being sworn in twice, so the new law counts differently

helinues:
I owe you no explanation buddy

You cant give what you dont have need, anyone supporting Tinubu i know they can never make sense

Even my barrister friend that graduate with distinction, i easily make him feel stewpid anytime he tries to defend Tinubu govt ..even his wife would laugh at him, you cant defend tinubu govt n make sense except around kids

Amotolongbo:
All these ignoramuses who just talk because they are privileged to have sheep cheering them up.
Poverty is not measured by the currency value.
South Korea is one of the richest countries on earth, yet the South Korean Won has lesser value than naira. South Koreans count in their currency.

Maybe he spoke high above your IQ, even tho currency value is not the tool to measure poverty rate, its all intertwined
i.e standard or cost of living and the economic health determines " Poverty rate" largely " however you can discard the fact that currency value is a reflection of economic strength, productivity and balance of trade, NO country has these 3 major key and stil have significant poverty rate

You cant bring south korea into this topic, cos S. Korea low currency is due to non redomination & deliberate strategy to make her productive competitive and cheaper for outside. they are export driven

Lastly south korea poverty rate sit at 15.3% while Nigeria sit at 62.5% .. I dont get how you tinubu data boiz live with yourselves defending the most shameful tinz

helinues:
There are lots of people who have turned things around with this government policies and reforms.

So if you want to be part of the generational naggers, the choice is yours

How exactly is Tinubu reform policies aiding or propelling Dangote production exactly .. when the most important input which crude demand, nig. Govt cant even meet 40% of dangote needs
Dangote produces about 18m barrel per week hardly does nnpc met 5m supply to him, this man import majority of his supply
When you say naira for crude, on a breakdown how is it significant carries no discount and covers less than 40% of dangote needs

this one no be antagoiism, in what way exactly is Tinubu policies helping business, refining or production .. How ??

foreign xchange is fvcking high, meaning high cost of raw material

Import levies & all manner of extortion, how is it favorable to the manufacturers

talk of Power what we have is it a boost, many Companies have gone off national grid incase you don"t know

SO when you say Opelope Tinubu reform ... Please educate we the sane ones what we missed

wike can mock Fubara all he wants, But he should mistake winninh Fubara for escape karma

Al his relevance will end the day Tinubu loses Federal might

and what do the victims get ?? the ones that paid ransom and still lose there loved ones becos of those animals

the govt must very sick if they think for a minute they can rehabiliate cold souls like bandits & boko haram that can butcher children rape young victims and post it

This is a defining election. The party needs a candidate with national acceptability, political resilience, tested structures, and the capacity to unify disparate interests into one winning coalition,” he said.[color=#000099][/color]

for me here are the major highlights for scrutiny and breakdown, atiku spoke of

1. National acceptance, Considering Atiku quest and result from National election is it correct to say he has National acceptance, using 20yrs

2. Political resilence, some good buh could Atiku always come back mistaken for self-centeredness,... You feel every chance is an opportunity to get lucky ... that's not resilience, resilience works with sacrificing & Team goal
Is atiku a team player or everybody play for me
3. Tested Structure, strong point but on the bases of Atiku election record, thats one vague point infact Atiku structure resonate " Predictable" ... A river you see wey full for your front can't carry you away

4 . Capacity to unify ... Lets go back to pdp '23 ...pdp crumbled because of Atiku's desperation, he discarded zoning and played dirty to win Pdp primary which led to agrieved members & G5 governors looking at where all that as landed pdp today who can say Atiku has capacity to unify
Even in the current Coalition, ADC as Atiku shown any capacity of elderstateman or to unify ... Is it not just " only me can win" only can defeat incumbent " only me only me

Where is the tendencies to unify ...infact we know peter obi and Kwankwaso ran out cos of Atiku he can never be trusted in the primaries game ... His record shows it

brain54:
Jealousy dey worry your mama...


Meanwhile, try dey appreciate your step mom more. Even if it isn't a full ram of her own - maybe due to financial implications, you can gift her cash or something.


I saw the other thread you did and people gave you that advice but you seem not to have taken it.


As for the price of the rams I don't know if it is a fair deal... 800k for the three splits the amount for each to roughly 266k. The last time I bought a ram it was around 40k for a full mature bigger looking ram than the ones you posted years ago.


I understand the economic realities of the country is different now. But I wasn't expecting the gap to be that wide sincerely. Some years ago that 266k was the price of a very big cow.


Which way Nigeria? It is well fah!

Uncle you need to visit the market for real and stop living in years ago ....

If my memory serves me right me & a friend bought salah ram i think in 2016 then
.. we are xtains tho, for 60k

Ram is normally expensive, on festive period like Salah expect exorbitant prices especially now fuel is 1500 + insecurity in North... you must consider these factors