tranxo:
I will repeat, heavenly race is a PERSONAL RACE.

You cannot effectively serve God when you have others gods in your life. The Holy Spirit will lead you to know the gods in your life you need to let go, for you not to be distracted in your pursuit for the peace of salvation.

Like the OP said, the mum used to take looking good very seriously - that may be a god in her life she needed to let go.

Meanwhile, makeup can be a god to A, but not to B.

Some of these gods may not even be sin. They are just addictions that will become huge distractions and impediments towards reaching a higher realm.

So how can makeup be god to A and not to B....or is makeup a necessity...or what is the purpose of makeup

tranxo:

For some people (arguably most), when they are full of life, young, and bubbling, they think life goes on forever. But at a certain age, when 20 more years is not certain, they start thinking more about putting their houses on order.

Read to understand, rather than read to comment.

Still there is no sense in what you just said!

Jeon:
handsome not broken guys.

Are you a child of Satan

tranxo:

Heavenly race is a PERSONAL RACE. Who would have thought that the 'sinner' on the cross beside Jesus would make heaven.

Just pray that she gets salvation of her soul there, or if it's the wrong place, that God will open her eyes soon.

She is 62. At a certain age, many people start thinking about eternity.

Meanwhile, make sure you are running your own race oooo. Money may not be problem for you, but money IS NOT EVERYTHING.

Do you have to wait until you are at a certain age before you start thinking about eternity Thinking about eternity starts from the time you have reached the age of accountability because death can come anytime to both young and old!!!

thatigboman:
oya see it. In Revelations, the last book of the bible and the last book in new testament

The woman here is the mother of harlot - which represent Babylon... Does that look like a follower of Christ to you

This shows you don't even know bible!!!

I repeat show us instances where men/women(Christ followers) wore jewellery in the new testament if you think we can still wear jewelry under the new covenant of Christ...Yet you are just quoting verses up and down without proper understanding!!!

Besides, have you read 1Timothy 2:9

thatigboman:
leave Esther 2:12, see instances women wore jewellery in old testament

So it's no longer Esther 2:12 and Makeup,.... Now it is jewelry.

The women that wore jewelry in the old testament, are they Jewish women(Gods own people) or pagans?

Also show us instances where women(Christ followers) wore jewellery in the new testament if you think we can still wear jewelry under the new covenant of Christ

HBB1:



Think bruv!

Thiiiiink!
I am sorry I cannot go on, because I am losing brain cells here.

Clothes were like tunics for children.
Bubu or Kaaba ( as Yorubas calk it).

If it did not size them, they could decided to take it or not.

What mattered most was the gold!
Clothes would wear out, gold would not.

So who cared about some foolish clothes.

Besides, the Parents obviously took things for themselves-- who wouldn't.
I do not see where they were told not to take things for themeselves?

I think only a dumbo wouldn't and if you say you wouldn't, then... you gerrit?

Also was it when they were plundering the Egyptians before escaping, that they started putting holes in their Children for ear rings?
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If I imprison you for 35 years and then suddenly release you, but ask you to tak what you want before you leave... won't you grab and run.

You would also put your most prized possesion where?

On you of course-- money, your phone, your watch and jewelry if you have any.
Anything else can go into a bag.

If the bag gets lost, your valuables don't.
You keep them on yourself.

So they wore the jewelry and pinned it to their ears and noses so it would not get lost!
Such that it was not even that easy to remove when they had to.

I cannot for the life of me understand why Jewelry can be such a big deal to you.

With all the things going on in the World, Jewelry will be the most important thing to God?!

The same God that made them build him a Temple of outlandish wealth?
The same God that made his High Priest wear gems in his breastplate?

The same God that bragged he clothed his children with precious metals?

If you cannot understand, I can't help you!
Yoir mind is just dark!

When Jesus comes back with a Crown, refuse to follow him because of it.

...and so you know, I don't wear Jewelry.
Just saying.

I am not going to reply you again.

So your own Bible said God told the Israelite women to collect the clothing and jewelries from Egyptian children baa

God told the parents clearly to put them upon their sons and daughters, not upon themselves...neither did God told the parents to collect and wear them!!!

Why is it still difficult for you to understand

And God clothed His children physically with precious metals, baa

And besides, how many gold/jewelries did Jesus and His followers wore in the new testament

HBB1:



Didn't the Egyptians have Children?

The most prized possesions then was Jewelry-- simple.

Life over 2000 years ago was not how it is today.

You could have been bought as a slave with just a few grams of gold, that was how valuable it was.
That is even if they had it.

...and not everbody would have had valuable things.

Go to Museums the world over and see depictions of how people lived thousands of years ago.
You can also see a few surviving relics of the past.

It was Spartan at best-- very basic.

So I don't know where you get your weird ideas from.
Or you think everybody had gold, or people had it lying around like that?

I can't help you, you hear.
I say again, you are not very smart and my brain has started hurting.

But please travel, go to museums, watch channels lile Discovery and History.
Read!
Watch Documentaries!

Your lack of basic knowledge is shocking!

So God told them to collect from Egyptian children,....baa Hahahaha...... So let even assume that they also collect from Egyptian children,.... So how will those those clothes size them For example, can your cloth size me or can my cloth size you Can't you see your funny logic holds no water!!!

It's clear that God told them to collect those jewels of gold, silver and clothing from the Egyptians and put them upon their sons and daughter to help in carrying them,.... Not for their sons and daughters to wear them neither did God instruct the Israelite women to collect them and wear them on themselves!!! It's very clear but because you love to deceive yourself, you have forced your funny opinion into it!!!

HBB1:


Because you can't wear a chair?!

Or can you?

Wow!

If I say put that crown on him, will you put it around his neck?

If I say put that shirt on him, will you put it on his head?!

You are doing my head in here!
Can't you think?

About you other question, I don't know and it does not matter.
They wore ornaments is all.

You are not very logical are you.

So if someone tells me, ' come to my house tomorrow and take plenty snacks and chocolate, let you children have as much as they want'

And you see me eating chicolate later, does that mean I was not allowed to eat out of the chocolate?

And the same person that asked me to come take chocolate later brags that he fed me and my children, so much that I did not want to eat chocolate for a year.

Does that still mean I was not allowed chocolate?

You are not the sharpest tool in the box, are you?

You know what, I have important things to do for now.

Now let me shock you.....they also collected clothing from the egyptians in addition to the jewels and God said they should put them upon their sons and daughters..... Then if you think it means that they are to put the earrings on the ears of their sons and daughters Then it also means that the sons and daughters were wearing the clothing of the Egyptians too...how can a child be wearing the cloth of an adult...how possible Can your child wear your cloth and be comfortable or walk comfortably..Hahahaha ... You see your ignorance?


How can their sons and daughters wear all those things they collected from the Egyptians - jewels of gold and silver, rainments/clothes etc Do you know the quantity of the jewels of gold and silver they collected? Do you know the quantity of the rainments they collected too and other things they collected

Use your head! Common sense is not common!!!

HBB1:


KJV (old English) says 'upon.'

NKJV says 'on.'

Other translations say 'on'

If you don't know that upon and on are used interchangeably, then I cannot help you.

If I say, 'put that chair on her'
Then say, 'put that necklace on her'

Would you do the same for both?

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You see ehn, I can't help you!

You are a not very smart Fanatic/Pharisee

Peace!

You still haven't answer the question.....

If upon and on are used interchangeably Then if I say put that chair on him, does that mean he is wearing a chair


And why did the women/wives and the men not mentioned together with sons and daughters

And besides, why didn't God mentioned ears i.e they should put them on the ears of their sons and daughters... Or does it mean their sons and daughters not have ears

Now let me shock you.....they also collected clothing from thr egyptians in addition to the jewels and God said they should put them upon their sons and daughters..... Then if you think it means that they are to put the earrings on the ears of their sons and daughters Then it means that the sons and daughters were wearing the clothing of the Egyptians too...how can a child be wearing thr cloth of an adult...how possible Hahahaha ... You see your ignorance?

HBB1:


God, you are so daft!

Aren't ' upon and on' used interchangeably?

Besides wasn't 'on' used hear.

So if I say, 'put on your shirt or shoes,' it means put on your head?

Again don't be daft.

If God gives power to make wealth, can we say he made them wealthy.

Also if he gave them power to wear jewelry, can we say he clothed them in fine clothes and jewelry.

You are not very sharp is all I can say...
And it is evident in your submissions.

I am SURE you did not do very well in school.
I am also sure you cannot hold a meaninful conversation in any matter asides the scripture you claim to understand.

If you engaged in lateral thinking, it would show.
I am sorry to say it does not appear you do.

So if upon and on are used interchangeably Then what does that mean If I say you should put the chair on him Then does that mean he's wearing the chair Why didn't God said they should put the jewels of Gold and silver on the ears of their son and daughters if you think what God meant was that their sons and daughters were wearing it? And why didn't God also said the women/wives should put the jewels upon themselves if God wanted the women/wives should wear them

So you see that your blind argument doesn't hold any water!


There's no amount of exposition will free you from ignorance but prayers!!!

Ubdavis:
That is spiritual enslavement

What is spiritual freedom

HBB1:



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Wow!

What School did you go to?

So if I ask you to put on a shirt, it means you put it on your head?

Are you daft?

So if God asked them to put Jewelry on their Sons and Daughters, it means he asked them to put it on their heads?

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So you put a gold chain or one ear-ring on a 2 year old child's head?
So he will hold one chain on his head and start walking around like Egbere.

Are you serious?!
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Like really!

Does this make sense to your religion-destroyed mind?

And was there anywhere they were rebuked for wearing the Jewelry?
Rather than that, another passage mentions where God says, he himself clothed them in Jewelry, but this still does not sit with you.
You describe it as an Idiom.


I really feel sorry for you.
Really do.

Put something Upon and putting on something are they thesame

So if I tell you take this chair and put it upon him, what does that mean Chaiii....English na your mate


Now read Exodus 33:5-6 and see where they were rebuked for wearing jewelries!!!


Hahahaha,.... So God came down from heaven and started clothing them physically with jewelries etc right? Chaiii.... So the jewelry you are wearing, it's God that put it on you, right Infact what about the holes, God opened them for you to wear earrings/noserings etc baa?

HBB1:




When God told the Israelites to collect jewels of gold and silver it was for their payment of servitude and to provide for the construction work in the wilderness and not for them to wear them. Infact when God told them to borrow the jewels of gold and silver, He didn't tell them to wear them but to put it upon their sons and daughters for them to carr[/b]y.


You mean this?

They carried it on their heads bah?

It's you that needs to go back to School!
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Just give me until Wednesday, then I will have your time fully.

Besides, I did not say slaves, but ex-slaves.
A slave would not wear jewelry.

An ex-slave is a free man!

You will keep being in ignorance if you keep reading the bible like a novel.

Go back to where God told them to borrow jewels of gold and silver from the Egyptians and show me where God told them to wear them

God told them put them upon your sons and daughters!!!

Now what i expect you to ask instead of arguing blindly is, how come did Aaron told them to break the earrings on their wives ears and bring them to him whereas God never told the wives to wear them rather they should put them upon their sons and daughters? That should tell you that while on their journey they later took them and wore them together with their childreb which God never commanded them to do so from beginning but since you are ignorant, how would you understand

Don't worry, any time you come, I'm waiting for you... Your ignorance needs to be exposed the more!!!

HBB1:


Did God clothe the Isrlaeites or not.
Did hebprovide them with food.
So why could he not have provided them with Jrwelry?
When the bible says so?

Did he ask them to collect Jewelry from the Egyptians when they left Egypt as payment for their work.
Did they wear it or not?

Did Moses command people to make a hole in the ex-slaves ear and put a ring in it?

Did Kings wear Crowns?
Is that not Jewelry.

Did God ask that Shield made with Gold be out in his temple?
Was the Ark of Convenant not made with Gold?

Is God heathen too?

Did Aaron not wear a tunic with gemstones as the High Priest?

Was the Temple not adorned in Gold?

Did Solomon not make Silver as cheap as stones when he was king?
What do you think they made with all of that?

Have you heard of the star of david?
Did people make ornaments of it or not?


Why do you wear shoes?

Why do you wear a shirt and tie?

Why do you use a Phone since Jesus did not?

SMH!
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Go back to school and learn what idiomatic expression is!!!!

When God told the Israelites to collect jewels of gold and silver it was for their payment of servitude and to provide for the construction work in the wilderness and not for them to wear them. Infact when God told them to borrow the jewels of gold and silver, He didn't tell them to wear them but to put it upon their sons and daughters for them to carry.

Are you a slave If slaves Are required to have a hole on one of their ears during the time of Moses and now we have Jesus as our master, has He subjected anyone to be slave except you want to become slave to satan where you want to subject your self to pains just to hang a lifeless metal on your ears, nose, tongues, naval etc

During the time of Christ, Christ and His followers all wore shoe, cloth, etc Yet none of them wore jewelries or any worldly adornment.

Shoe is to protect our feet when walking on the road, cloth is to cover our unclothedness!!!

What is the purpose of wearing jewelries on your body?

Phone is for communication - communication is a necessity. Phone wasn't existing in the time of Christ. And if it was existing, they would have used it.

princetom1:


Where u see for my write up, say make person e, pose his/her self?

I just asked

HBB1:



You are not very smart.

Why would God use an expression of wearing Jewelry if he was not okay with it.

Why did he not use an expression he despised to describe it-- such as sleeping with you Mothers or something very abonimable.

He talked about how he clother them, fed them, covered them and adorned them with Jewelry; but you jump all the others and capitalize on Jewelry alone being idiomatic expression.

You are very silly!

Did Moses ask Israelites to put Ear-rings on freed slaves or not?

Have you read the link I posted-- it has archaelogical evidence.
Ancient Israelites wore Jewelry!

You ask if Jesus or the Nee Testament peeps wore Jewelry or not...

If they did not wear, the New Testamemt would not use Jewelry and braiding hair to describe how they shiuld comport themselves.

If I may ask, whay kind of shoes did Jesus wear?
Were his sandals ankle lenth of calf length?

So if the Bible does not say, means he went about with bare feet.

So if the Bible does not mention it, it never happened?

How daft is that.

So if a Christian Saint write letters to his Congregation today and those letter are seen 800 years after...

If he does not mention he used a Phone or watched TV, or went to the Gym in those letters, it means he didn't do these things.

Moreso if God wanted us to be circumcised, why did he let us have foreskin?

If he does not want us to have long hair as men, why does he allow our hair grow continuously?
Or our nails?

Why allow us have Acne and armpit hair that will make you stink.

...and as he did not born you with shoes, why do you wear shoes.

How daft can this be?

Better you start living like Amish people who don't even use electricity and still ride Horses.

Jesus used an expression we all can understand by saying "He will come as a thief"..... Does using the word "Thief" to describe His coming means that it is good to become like a thief God can use anything we understand to explain something like parables to make us understand not that using it means He is okay with it. Did God opened your ears, nose for the purpose of wearing earring or nose ring Yet He opened your ear, nose, mouth, anus for the purpose of hearing, eating, perceiving, talking and defecating. After God created man, He saw it and said it was very good without opening the earlobe or the nose for the purpose of wearing earring and nose ring!!!

Jewelries, makeup/face painting has been existing during Jesus time.... So how many gold did Jesus or His followers wore when they were on earth Yet they wore cloth, foot wears etc - Wearing of gold/jewelries is never the custom of the Israelites but the heathen nations!!!

When you read bible like a novel, you will never understand it!!!

Kobojunkie:
1. Bullsheet! You are speaking here of the same God whose temple was at some point decked in Gold from the roof down. That was no idiomatic expression. God did reward the people with booty from war plenty with good and other ornaments.

2. Paul's letter does not suggest that the people do without braided hairs, jewelries, etc. Rather, what the writer meant was that the adornments not represent the whole for the women. That opinion is Paul's and not God’s and except a person worships the man Paul, I see no reason why anyone would consider his opinion godly.

3. You mean the same way you were not circumcised from birth abi, and your appendix not taken out, etc? E be like say wisdom dey skip generations. Why else would anyone be repeating the same stewpid claim wey I hear last during the 1980s.

4. First point out where Jesus Christ talk say make you do as your new testament "saints".

Like I said continue forcing your opinions to defend what you love doing. Even Satan misquoted the bible to tempt Jesus. So anybody can quote the bible to deceive themselves!!!!

God created gold and silver Yet was it created for us to wear them and for what purpose When the creator of gold and silver(God the son) came to this earth in the form of man, how many of the gold did you read that He wore on His body Yet He wore cloth etc

Besides, in Paul's letter, what do you understand by the word "Not With"

Continue deceiving yourself!!!

princetom1:


Look clean, make ur hair or cut it, wear clean dress and put perfume even if na 200 naira aboki perfume... The take out, be clean and look clean... Make person no go dey look like psychiatric patient

Ok. So when one exposes the breasts, laps, etc is the person looking good

Kobojunkie:
Does my knowing --- or not--- impact you in some way? If you have nothing better to do please go read dictionary or something.

Are you scared to answer the simple question

Kobojunkie:
I asked a question. If it is the case that you do not understand what it means to dress modestly, I suggest you start with the dictionary abeg!

Ok. So do you know the meaning of dressing modestly

HBB1:



You don't seem to be very bright.

Did that passage ask women not to braid their hair or wear jewelry.

Don't your women braid their hair now?

You conveniently omitted that to suit your narrative and jumped on the others.

Note the commas and semi-colons to understand what was being said.

He talked about humility and character.
Modest apparel, shamefacedness and sobriety ( whuc he says is not about clothes), but with good works.

Do women teach in Church now?

You jumped that one too.

This is Ezekiel 16, God says he adorned his Children with Jewelry.

In the Old Testament, a freed slave had an Ear-ring put on him.

Also read this:

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrkMzqK6ptlC74tXTdB4iA5;_ylu=Y29sbwNpcjIEcG9zAzUEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1704745739/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwomeninthebible.net%2fbible-extras%2fclothes-ancient%2f/RK=2/RS=lf.1F5u.s879ljflGCevXqgdx30-

If you still believe in your nonsense with these, then I cannot help you!

You are confusing yourself the more! You read bible the way you read a novel. The passage you quote is an idiomatic expression... God was not physically putting earring on anyone's ear or nose ring on any ones nose etc. God was using the way the heathen nations decorate themselves which is understood by the Israelites to explain how He has blessed the Israelites with natural resources like gold, silver etc.

Back to 1Timothy 2:9 - it's very clear "NOT WITH"

Not with gold/jewelries, broided hair, costly pearls etc

Infact, why didn't God opened your ear or nose during or after creation if He actually wanted you to wear earring/nosering

Besides, can you point any new testament saint that wore jewelers or painted her face Infact how many gold did Jesus wore when He was on earth This is how you guys will carry ignorance and enter hell because your so called pastor's don't care about your souls!!!! SMH

Kobojunkie:
Where you one of those who claimed it was natural then or how exactly did you creep up into my mention on this?

You said "Slippers and shabby clothes na modest dressing?"

So I want to know,...what is modest dressing I want to learn...

Kobojunkie:
First explain when wearing of slippers and shabby came to constitute natural or modest dressing.

So where did I say wearing slippers and shabby constitute modest dressing

Sucre6:


That's how easily you fail in exams, you study computer science for example and they ask you what is a mouse,

You now tell your lecturers that mouse is broad, as such you wouldn't know the mouse her referring to and you ignorantly end up making suggestions of it mouse rodent he's talking about or mouse an apparatus that made up a computer system

The context used in the quotation had been narrowed down to being make up, because it has to do with beautification, why the fvck are u still saying it's broad when it has been narrowed down for you, as a layman to understand ?


Nah una type most fake God of men they easily brain wash with Bible verse that suit their narrative to convince you always.

I know you are deeply rooted in ignorant, I will never reply your quote again because

Educating and ignorant person that has refuse to learn the true worth of being educated is a waste of education

Bye 👋

You just cemented the fact that you are highly ignorant.

For your info, there are different types of cosmetic as seen in the screenshot below!!! Pls do more research and learn to avoid making blind argument....

princetom1:


Sadly, that's how most of dem look. Like it's a crime to dem to look good

How does one look good

Kobojunkie:
Slippers and shabby clothes na modest dressing? Many of you are just wicked.

So what is modest dressing

Sucre6:



In this context cosmetic was clearly made to connot make up and you know this if you are not ignorant

Please sir rest and stop embarrassing yourself already

You just confirmed that you are highly ignorant!

Cosmetic is broad. Do you know that tooth paste is cosmetic, body cream/lotion is cosmetic

So cosmetic is not makeup but makeup is part of cosmetic.