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Antichristian2:
Yes, All the people mentioned in the genology of Jesus in Luke and Matthew are not all found in the Old testament. Yet you believe they existed. Where do they come from? What is your evidence anything was copied from the Bible? The best copier from the Bible are the Gospel writers and the Biblical Jesus. They just sometimes say "It is written".... before whatever they want to quote. And sometimes they quote wrongly!
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Even at this time of ramadan you still went further to lie!

Is Abraham, Jacob, Judah, Tamar, Amminadab, not mentioned in Old testament?

Antichristian2:
Show us how Abraham and Ishmael dressed in the Bible? The Bible has no mouth to talk. Who is talking?

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You mean I should show you the image of their dressing? in Saudi Arabia aside the time and period you do circumbulate kaaba half naked or undressed, did you still go about dressing unclothedness or half naked on normal day?

Antichristian2:
I have posted that they did it before! Abraham has his station there.

The Quran mentions that Abraham and Ishmael were commanded to purify the Kaaba for those who perform Tawaf. This is found in Surah Al-Baqarah (2:125)


"And [mention] when We made the House (Kaaba) a place of return for the people and [made] it a sanctuary. And take, O believers, the station of Abraham as a place of prayer. And We charged Abraham and Ishmael, [saying], 'Purify My House for those who perform Tawaf...'"

This verse implies that the act of Tawaf was established during their time.

The 5 pillars of Islam is not for them. What is for them is to submit to Allah and do whatever He commands while not associating partners with him in worship. Did Abraham worship Jesus or trinity Yahweh?
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These verses were not directed to Abraham and Ishmael, it says for those who will. You shouldn't have problem comprehending these verses!

Antichristian2:
The part of worhsipping one God and one God alone without partners! I don't know who your Ishmael is. Our Ishmael is a Prophet of Allah as well as his younger brother Isaac. There is no Esau/Jacob feud in Islam! No Convenant/unconvenant child in Islam! All those jewish favoritism construct!
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Your Ishmael was banished to the desert. Is Biblical God called Gods or you lack singular and plural understanding?

Antichristian2:
Allah has said many times He has no partners. Associating partners to Allah is the greatest sin in Islam. So he used that for Himself as His majesty wishes!

So who are the WE, OURS, US, etc if truly he has no partners?

Gabrielshow24:
Historically speaking there is no way Abraham could have built the Kaaba!!!

The only supposed evidence he has is in the Quran!!! 🤦🏾‍♂️

Bloody pagans built the Kaaba and attributed it Abraham😂😂😂!!!

The very same thing they condemned the pagans before them for are exactly what they are still doing😂😂😂.

They kiss the black stone
Run between two valleys
Circumbulate the Kaaba etc.

No difference at all, save the change of name😂😂😂
Repackaged idol worship🥲!!!
The very law in Leviticus condemns them - imagine bowing to a meteorite thinking the said stone will rise up on judgement day to plead on their behalf😂😂😂!!!
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Allah suffers from low self esteem that he had to use majestic plurality to address himself😂, he didn't see the vibe in using singular constructs🙃.

Imagine Allah testing the fires of hell by putting his leg inside🥲 —a highly pragmatic God!

Lies, lies and lies.
Islam died with the advent of the internet!!!

Antichristian2 take note

Antichristian2:
They are Muslims. We don't need their names. We just need to believe they existed. You can search the Qur'an for the news!

You don't need their names and you should belive they exist. Bible mention their names but never called them Muslims, so why is your own story different from what Muhammad copied from Bible

Antichristian2:
Where? Show us what Abraham and Ishmael were puting on with Bible verses?

Bible talks about modestly in dressing, it never encourage dressing half naked as you do in Islam while circumbulating kaaba, you aren't different from idolatrous exposing their body when worshipping their gods

Antichristian2:
Even if i give you 100 verses you'll still continue on the path to Jahannam that you are on. Abraham and Ishmael did raise the foundation of the kaaba. Both of them were Prophets of Allah. Both worshipped Allah as He wanted them to.

They raised your foundation but never circumbulated the shrine while exposing their bodies, how are they Muslims without fulfilling 5 pillars of islam?

Antichristian2:
And Muslims follow their path of not Joining partners with Allah! They were not trinitarians!

Which path of Abraham are you following? Though you are following the path of Ishmael I think you know his story with his criminalities

We read many places where allah refer to himself using OURS, WE, US, etc who are the partners of allah on this regards?

Antichristian2:
What about those that entered the ark with him? Are they not Muslims?

Who are they, what is there personality, can you name them, any evidence from Qur'an or hadith on this?

Antichristian2:
Bible verses please?

Of what? Bible condemned exposing of body

Antichristian2:
So people would be taking care of a place of worship but wouldn't worship in it? If your dad builds a church can we ask you if he prays in it or not?

Then show me where it is written that Abraham and his son worshipped kaaba and circumbulated it half naked

Antichristian2:
What is clear is that Noah called people to worship one God and refrain from idolatry. He called his people to the submission to the will of Allah.

Allah sent Noah to his people to call them to worship Allah Alone:
“Indeed, We sent Noah to his people and he said: ‘O my people! Worship Allah! You have no other Ilah (God) but Him. (La ilaha ill Allah: none has the right to be worshipped but Allah.) Certainly, I fear for you the torment of a Great Day!’” [al-A’raf 7:59 – interpretation of the meaning]

So anyone among the people of Noah who obeys Noah in truth till he died will die as a Muslim. They have their way of worship!

And there is no record of whom Noah preached to that accepted allah and Islam right?

Antichristian2:
What clothes were they on in their time in the Bible?

They never dressed half naked as you always do when circumbulating kaaba

Antichristian2:
Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And (remember) when Ibraaheem (Abraham) and (his son) Ismaa’eel (Ishmael) were raising the foundations of the House (the Ka‘bah at Makkah), (saying), ‘Our Lord! Accept (this service) from us. Verily, You are the All-Hearer, the All-Knower’” [al-Baqarah 2:127]

They raised the foundations is the context of this verse, they never circumbulate it!

Antichristian2:
“and We commanded Ibrahim (Abraham) and Ismail (Ishmael) that they should purify My House (the Ka‘bah at Makkah) for those who are circumambulating it, or staying (I’tikaf), or bowing or prostrating themselves (there, in prayer).” [al-Baqarah 2:125]

The context here says they should purified the shrine of kaaba for those that will circumbulate it. It is not written that Abraham and his son circumbulate it half naked!

Antichristian2:
“And (remember) when We showed Ibrahim (Abraham) the site of the (Sacred) House (the Ka‘bah at Makkah) (saying): "Associate not anything (in worship) with Me, (La ilaha ill-Allah (none has the right to be worshipped but Allah Islamic Monotheism), and sanctify My House for those who circumambulate it, and those who stand up for prayer, and those who bow (submit themselves with humility and obedience to Allah), and make prostration (in prayer, etc.).” [al-Hajj 22:26]

Allah and his partners showed Ibrahim the site of kaaba and sanctify his house for those that will circumbulate it, why did allah failed to show Ibrahim how to circumbulate it half naked?

Antichristian2:
You asked the JAMB question first by saying there should a prophet from a place before another Prophet would come from there.

So tell us which Prophet preceded Abraham and Noah from their respective places?

I don't think you get my point

Is there any prophet that came from Saudi Arabia aside Muhammad? Or Noah and Abraham, are they from Saudi Arabia?

Antichristian2:
That's the JAMB question!

I get your point!

If gat the point, then answer yourself!

Antichristian2:
Islam is the culture of Naoh's people as ONLY Noah came from his place of origin, only him worshipped Allah as a prophet, only him call people to Allah for many years and saved people in the Ark during the flood! No other prophet saved people through a flood!

Did Noah a Muslim that worshipped allah as you said never obliged to the five pillars of Islam?

Antichristian2:
Islam is also the culture of Abraham's people as ONLY Abraham came from his place of origin, only him worshipped Allah as a prophet, only him and his son build, circumbulated and worship in and around the kaaba and many more!

This can be framed for many other Prophets too!

Can you show us where it is written either in quran or hadith that Abraham with his son circumbulated and worship in and around the kaaba while undressed or half naked?

Antichristian2:
You asked the JAMB question first by saying there should a prophet from a place before another Prophet would come from there.

So tell us which Prophet preceded Abraham and Noah from their respective places?

I didn't asked you anything question or jamb past question, this is what I said

RightChannel:
You didn't get my point

Islam is an Arabic culture as ONLY Muhammad came from Saudi Arabia, only him worshipped allah as a prophet, only him circumbulated and worship kaaba and many more! No other prophet worshipped kaaba and performed hajj to Saudi Arabia, no other prophet prayed to allah while facing the direction of qibla!

Antichristian2:
You still don't get it.

Where did Noah come from? Who also came from there for him to be a Prophet. There must be a precedent Prophet from a place for another Prophet to come from there according to you.

Anyways, Ishmael is a Prophet in Islam and he's the ancestor of the Prophet. He and Abraham did worshipped at the Kaaba when its foundation was raised.

Noah was an Hebrew that came from Saudi Arabia as he also circumbulated the shrine of kaaba half naked same way Muhammad did and also he prayed to allah while facing kaaba's direction!

Tell us where Noah came from and stop asking me jamb question!

Tilumbu is working towards getting sympathy votes from SS and SE by releasing Kanu before 2027

Dilijingsly:
Tinubu knows how to play this game called politics more that the aforementioned persons combined.. He will surely emerge victorious in the elections

Except Tilumbu will declare state of Emergency throughout Nigeria, he can't play anything politics in this situation!

Antichristian2:
Oh can you tell us where did Noah and Abraham come from and how they were Prophets?

Why not use google to tell you where they came from if they have anything to do with Saudi Arabia or prayed to allah while facing the direction of qibla or performed hajj to Saudi Arabia where they circumbulated, worshipped and kissed the black stone of kaaba

chopnaira:
Obasanjo should tell us how he wasted $16 Billion on power we never saw. If Nigeria was like China, Obj would be in prison by now.

If Nigeria is like China, would druggie contested for presidency talk more of been your president? By now your druggie master must be in life imprisonment!

Tilumbu owns Hitech

Antichristian2:
Where does it state that many Prophets must come from a particular place for them all to be legit?

You didn't get my point

Islam is an Arabic culture as ONLY Muhammad came from Saudi Arabia, only him worshipped allah as a prophet, only him circumbulated and worship kaaba and many more! No other prophet worshipped kaaba and performed hajj to Saudi Arabia, no other prophet prayed to allah while facing the direction of qibla!

Do we have Vice president in Nigeria, I don't see the guy active!

Antichristian2:
You already have a warped understanding of Islam before!
Islam is not an Arabic culture as Allah emphasized the fact in the Qur'an that all Prophets were Muslims. This includes Moses, Jesus, John the baptist, David, Jacob, Isaac, Ishmael, Abraham, Solomon, Jonah,etc. However, only Muhammad was an Arab. Arabs were polytheists before Islam became pronounce in Arabia!

The only religion all of the Messengers practiced is Islam.

Noah and Abraham were not Jews nor Christians! But they were Muslims!

If Islam is not an Arabic culture, why that ONLY Muhammad came from Saudi Arabia or Arabia peninsula, which Prophets originated from Saudi Arabia or worship kaaba the black stone Muhammad placed on your in Saudi Arabia?

She should free Kanu

Blackdisciple:
rather Iran or Hezbollah will give them light na or are they not together anymore??

They don't want to help them nii

Babamide:
Make I just see one tricycle

Contact him on X

Sucre6:
Lols, which kind talk be this? 😂😂😂😂

Me self dey laugh here

Egypt will give dem electricity

Karlifate:
Bola Tinubu, March 29

Uhmmm

IslamVIRGINS:
Seun tell your mods to stop banning people anyhow. Just imagine I was banned till 2092

Na 2082 Seun and his mods served me!

AdeYORUFAFO:
He celebrated his 70th birthday when his daughter celebrated her 60th

Daughter celebrated 60th birthday, Father celebrated 70th birthday. Father gave birth to daughter at the age of 10. All hail druggie Tilumbu!

damkin24:
Sorry for not having one reasonable. I can feel your pain

Next time use your senses when chatting with sane mind!

Notable Nigerians were born in March, Obasanjo, Adeboye, Osinbajo, etc

AdeYORUFAFO:
Tilumbun is 10 years older than his daughter

I wonder, so he birthed her at the age of 10?

Na fulani to fulani tin!

Even Tilumbu is 82 but his official age is 72! They are all former footballers

Shall we say they learnt how to kidnap from Muhammad via sharia laws!

See as Islam dey disgrace Nigeria