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olayinka63:
If they born you and your papa well, record your last paragraph on a video showing your face and share on social media. That is when I will agree you are not just chest beating. If cannot, then you are a bastard coward.

olayinka63:
Have you ever read that any children, wives or families of Muhammad turned beggar? They were not wealthy, but not beggar. They worked, they earned legit. Anyone you see breeding children for begging is only fooling himself. This is not from Islam. So mind your writings. Our Muhammad is an honourable person and we don't joke with his name.

AntiChristian:
So underline where i said brighter grammar?

Is "Brighter grammar" synonymous to "book of grammar" to numbskulls?

Ohyoudidnt:
Though not exaxtly comparable when the Queen Victoria says we will have a bath dies it mean she's having a bath with others? Even if she has maids attend to her who actually has the bath?

Qasim6:
Why do you think the Arabs have to use it the same way the English monarch use it?

In Proverbs 9:10 qadosh was in plural form in Hebrew but translated as "the holy one" because they understand it is a majestic plural and not plural of number. what do you have to say about that?

Qasim6:
No, you have not read anything. You are only deceiving yourself.
The names of those goddesses are mentioned in chapter 52 of the Qur'an.

This is the back story: the Arabs used to detest having female child to the extent that some even killed their female child but they worshiped goddesses uzza, ulat and manat and they believed these 3 goddesses were daughters of Allah.

Then Allah address this in the Qur'an

Q 53:19 Now, have you considered Lat and Uzza
Q53:20 and the third one, Manat, as well?
Q 53:21 Do you prefer to have sons while you attribute to Allah daughters?
Q 53:22 Then this is a biased distribution!
Q 53:23 These ˹idols˺ are mere names that you and your forefathers have made up—a practice Allah has never authorized. They follow nothing but assumptions and whatever their souls desire, although true guidance has already come to them from their Lord.

It is just a way of speaking sense into them.
— You hate having daughters but you believe God Almighty has daughters.

And verse 23 even make it known those names were just mere names their ancestors cooked up with no authority.

So why will the WE now be a reference to Allah and the same goddesses Allah is telling us are mere names they cooked up themselves?

Qasim6:
Guy, you don't have any proof that it was not used pre-Islam. All you are trying to do is impose how it is/was used by English monarch on the Qur'an and I don't really get why it has be the same way.

There are no Islamic scholars that agreed the rhetoric was not used pre-Islam. Stop relying on AnsweringIslam, they are going to embarrass you.
The fact that there is no evidence of anyone getting confused about its usage is also a testament to the fact that it was not new to them.

And I will like to know your own theory on why it is used in the Qur'an, do you also think it refers to Allah and his daughters like Antiislam or you have a different opinion?

Don't ask me if I agree or dont agree.
The fact is the questionnaire already had a prior knowledge to what he was asking and he was satisfied with the answer he got.
It is Hadith, the narrator of the Hadith might have been mistaken on the details. If it is Qur'an text it will be a different thing entirely.

Of cos they need to ban the drinking of camel urine because the Prophet did not say it is a cure to every ailment and there is another narration of the same Hadith that only mentioned camel milk and did not mention urine.

AntiChristian:
Allah is the We!

He said he is one not three!

AntiChristian:
Where did I say that O liar for Jesus?

AntiChristian:
The Qur'an became the Book of grammar for the Arabs.

AntiChristian:
So which records of that time about their grammar will you see translated in English online today?
It will be in Arabic!

So go and sit down!

AntiChristian:
Which king existed then?

AntiChristian:
Why ask same question many time?

Which king exist in Pre-Islamic Arab?
And Which Book of grammar did they write then?

Kukutente23:
It is not similar. Kings in Europe who normalised the use of royal We believed they were an embodiment of the state and thus symbol of sovereignity. That is why Louis XIV famously said "L'etat moi" meaning "I am the state". It is different from Yoruba who use it to refer to respect based on age.
Majestic plural does not exist AT ALL in Arabic or Semitic languages. It is easy to see in that in the Bible for example, Over twenty Kings were recorded and none ever used "We" to refer to himself. Same with Egyptian Kings which is one of the oldest civilisation. No record of royal We in usage there. As Antiislam pointed out, the royal We is mostly used in Europe.
Elohim is plural for God. Eloha is the singular. The usage in the Bible is to differentiate God from other gods especially canaanite gods which are also referred to as Eloha. it is from Eloha that Ilah came out and then Allah. Elohim was just a truncated way of saying Lord of gods or Lord God. So you missed it totally.

Till now, none of you can give an example of royal We usage in pre-Islamic Arabia so you need to give another explanation for Allah's use of We to refer to himself that is based on fact and fidelity. This one no fly

Next!!

AntiChristian:
The Qur'an became the Book of grammar for the Arabs.

The Grammatical usage became known as royal We in English later!

You are the one wallowing in hell from earth!

Kukutente23:
Taqqiyya So quran is now brigher grammar with Allah as the teacher How can quran become the book of grammar for Arabs when Arabic language existed before quran and was heavily influenced by other semitic languages

So Arab influenced English culture and language as well. What period was that and who were the influencers?

Islamist and taqiyya. They breath and live lies

AntiChristian:
That's your wahala to look for! Arabic and the Qur'an precedes English language!

Those well versed in the language understands it!

AntiChristian:
The Qur'an became the Book of grammar for the Arabs.

The Grammatical usage became known as royal We in English later!

You are the one wallowing in hell from earth!

Sleekfingers:
🤺😂😂😂😂😂

AntiChristian:
Chai!

Arabic Grammar has it before English!

Please use your IQ on nairaland!

Jerryhare:
Battery never low

shotuns:
Still gathering blood for renewal, time go soon reach.