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2 nill

This party keeps going down!

bentenny:
But I have been shouting about this last season over slot approach which has proven not to be suitable in Epl!
As much as isak is a great addition,we missed the opportunity of getting a natural DM that will protect the back 4!
I watched Chelsea vs Sunderland and I could not help but admire Xhaka for the way he shielded his defence from the constant Chelsea attacks esp from the flanks!
Graven has done very well no doubt but it's obvious he is not a DM and his best footy will be well utilized going forward!
Slot needs to go back to the basics and ensure we don't give too much spaces for opposition but he has to be fast because the fast pace of the EPL could see Liverpool struggling below 10th if the losses continue!

Truth is bitter, you are very correct jare!

Now, all my fellow Liverpool supporters will agree with me that we have a mediocre as our team manager. He keeps shouting they are playing long balls against us but failed to right his wrong. By the time we are relegated the owners will get sense.

Wiseone, Chikason, Wordson, Angelfrost, Bentenny and others, hope you all have seen what I have been complaining about since last season. Boring style of play.

I do not know why slot went back to 4 2 3 1 formation oooo!

2 nill.

Hmmm!

DukeofOkpoga:
It is so stupid of Arne Slot to keep Robertson on the bench and keep Kerkez on the field of play even though Robertson plays better. Slot is truly an average coach walahi.

You guys are now getting my point. Slot is a mediocre, he is not up to Liverpool task.

Rich4god:
This lose shows we have nothing to offer this season.

We might take crystal palace as a mistake...

Then lose to Chelsea as per they are a strong team and it was their home.

But lose to man u, is really unacceptable as there is no reason to justify it.

You didn't mention Galatasary

Slot style and Liverpool!

We may struggle to be among the top four teams in the premier League this season. This style can't match the premier tempo. Confusion everywhere.

Slot!

wiseone28:
We will come back and win

I believe! Only if Slot do the right thing.

The same error made us drew in the last minute the last time.

Salary increment should be considered not extension of year of service. Imagine a level 15, 16, 17 officer can't afford a car or 3 bedroom flat.

Danoskila7:
These Muslim worshippers are terrible

Your problem is "you always pick a point you dislike about Islam and Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) without the knowledge and start criticising him. Read the history of Ka'b bn Ashraf below.


EXECUTION OF KA‘B bn ASHRAF – A TALE OF TREACHERY AND JUSTICE.

Ka’b bin Ashraf was among the chieftains of Madinah and had been included in the treaty ratified by the Holy Prophet (sa). However after agreeing to this treaty, he started to openly spread disorder, and so ultimately, the Holy Prophet (sa) ordered for his execution. His Holiness quoted Hazrat Mirza Bashir Ahmad (ra) who writes the following in ‘The Life & Character of the Seal of Prophets (sa) – Volume II‘, pp. 297-307. This article presents the original excerpt.

WHO WAS KA’B BIN ASHRAF?

The manner in which the Battle of Badr brought forth the heart-felt enmity of the Jews of Madinah has already been mentioned in the account of the Ghazwah of Banū Qainuqā‘. However, it is unfortunate that even the exile of the Banū Qainuqā‘ was unable to sway the other Jews towards reconciliation, and they continued to grow in their mischief and disturbances. As such, the incident of the execution of Ka‘b bin Ashraf is also a link in this very chain. Although Ka‘b was a Jew by religion, he was not actually Jewish by descent; rather, he was an Arab. His father, Ashraf, was a very clever and cunning man of the Banū Nibhān, who came to Madinah and developed relations with the Banū Naḍīr and become their confederate. Ultimately, he managed to gain such power and influence that Abū Rāfi‘ bin Abil-Ḥuqaiq, head-chief of the Banū Naḍīr, gave him his daughter in marriage [1, 2]. It was this very daughter who gave birth to Ka‘b, who grew to attain an even greater status than that of his father. This was to such extent that ultimately he took on such a capacity that all the Jews of Arabia began to accept him as their chief. In addition to being a well-built and attractive man, Ka‘b was also an eloquent poet and a very wealthy man. Through generous spending, he would always keep the scholars and other influential personalities of his nation under his own control [3]. However, from a moral perspective, he was a man of extremely ill morals, and was a master in the art of secret schemes and conspiracies.

MUSLIM TREATY OF PEACE WITH THE JEWS OF MEDINA

When the Holy Prophet (sa) migrated to Madinah, along with the other Jews, Ka‘b bin Ashraf also participated in the treaty which the Holy Prophet (sa) drafted between the Jews with regards to mutual friendship, peace and security, and collective defence [4]. However, deep within, the fire of malice and enmity began to burn in the heart of Ka‘b and he began to oppose Islam and the Founder of Islam through secret schemes and conspiracies.

As such, it is recorded that every year Ka‘b would give a large sum of charity to Jewish scholars and religious leaders. However, after the migration of the Holy Prophet (sa), when these people came to collect their yearly allowances, within the course of discussion, he began to mention the Holy Prophet (sa) and inquired of them as to their opinion of the Holy Prophet (sa) in light of religious scriptures. They responded that apparently it seemed as if he was the very same Prophet who had been promised to them. Ka‘b was greatly displeased at this response and sent them away referring to them as immensely dull, and did not give them their usual charity. When the Jewish scholars lost their bread and butter, after some time, they came back to Ka‘b and said that they had misinterpreted the signs and that they had contemplated again to discover that in actuality, Muhammad (sa) was not the Prophet who had been promised to them. This response served the purpose of Ka‘b, and satisfied with their answer, he reinstated their yearly stipend [5]. In any case, this was merely religious opposition, which although was expressed in an unpleasant manner, could not at all be objectionable, and nor could Ka‘b be brought to task merely on this account. However, after this, the opposition of Ka‘b took on a more dangerous form, and ultimately, after the Battle of Badr, he began to employ such conduct, as was extremely mischievous and seditious, and created very dangerous circumstances for the Muslims.

THE SEDITION OF KA’B BIN ASHRAF

In actuality, prior to the Battle of Badr Ka‘b thought that this religious zeal was a temporary one, and gradually, all of these people would disperse on their own and revert to their ancestral religion. However, on the occasion of Badr, when the Muslims were granted an extraordinary victory, and most of the chieftains of the Quraish were slain, he understood that this new religion would not die out by itself. Hence, after Badr, he resolved to exert his best efforts to abolish and utterly destroy Islam. The first expression of his heart-felt rancour and jealousy was at the occasion when news of the victory of Badr reached Madinah. Upon hearing this news, at the outset, Ka‘b said that this news seemed to be false, because it was impossible for Muhammad (sa) to triumph over such a large army of the Quraish, and for such renowned chieftains of Makkah to be mixed to dust; if this news was true, then death was better than such a life [6, 7]. When this news had been confirmed and Ka‘b was assured that the victory at Badr had granted Islam such strength as was beyond his wildest dreams, he was overcome with anger and rage. He immediately prepared for journey and took to Makkah, and upon reaching there, by the power of his persuasive speech and poetic tongue, inflamed the fire that was kindling in the hearts of the Quraish. He created an unquenchable thirst in their hearts for Muslim blood, and filled their hearts with sentiments of revenge and enmity [8, 9, 10]. Then, when their emotions had become immensely sparked as a result of his incitement, Ka‘b took them to the courtyard of the Ka‘bah, and handing them the drapes of the Ka‘bah, had them swear that they would not rest until Islam and the founder of Islam had been wiped out from the face of the earth [11].

After creating this fiery atmosphere in Makkah, this evil person turned to the other tribes of Arabia, and travelling from tribe to tribe, he incited people against the Muslims [12]. Then, he returned to Madinah and whilst composing Tashbib [an ode or poem], he alluded to the Muslim women in a very filthy and obscene manner in his provocative couplets [13]. In doing so, he did not even spare the women from the household of the Holy Prophet (sa) in his amorous couplets [14, 15], and had these couplets widely publicised throughout the country. Finally, he hatched a conspiracy to assassinate the Holy Prophet (sa). Under the ploy of a feast, he invited the Holy Prophet (sa) to his residence, and with a few Jewish young men he schemed to have the Holy Prophet (sa) assassinated. However, by the Grace of God, information was received in advance and this plan of his was unsuccessful.

THE EXECUTION OF KA’B BIN ASHRAF

In light of the treaty which had been settled between the inhabitants of Madinah upon his arrival, the Holy Prophet (sa) was the chief executive and commander in chief of the democratic State of Madinah. Thus, when the state of affairs escalated to such an extent, and charges of infraction of treaty, rebellion, inciting war, sedition, use of foul language and conspiracy to assassinate the Holy Prophet (sa) had been established, he issued the verdict that Ka‘b bin Ashraf was liable to be put to death due to his actions. The Holy Prophet (sa), therefore, instructed some of his Companions to execute him [18, 19]. However, due to the sedition of Ka‘b, since the atmosphere of Madinah at the time was such that if a formal announcement had been made before his execution, there was a possibility that civil war may have erupted in Madinah, and there was no telling how much massacre and carnage would have ensued as a result. The Holy Prophet (sa) was willing to offer any possible and reasonable sacrifice in order to prevent international violence and bloodshed. Thus, he instructed that Ka‘b should not be executed publicly; rather, a few people should quietly find an opportunity and put an end to him.

The Holy Prophet (sa) assigned this duty to a faithful Companion named Muhammad bin Maslamah (ra), and emphasised that whatever strategy was devised, should be executed with the counsel of Sa‘d bin Mu‘adh (ra), who was the chief of the Aus tribe [20]. Muhammad bin Maslamah (ra) submitted, “O Messenger of Allāh! In order to kill him silently, we shall be required to say something,” which meant that some excuse, etc., would be required, by which Ka‘b could be lured out of his residence and executed in a secure location. Taking into account the grave consequences which could have arisen if a covert operation had been ruled out, the Holy Prophet (sa) said, “Alright then.” As such, with the counsel of Sa‘d bin Mu‘adh (ra), Muhammad bin Maslamah (ra) took Abu Na’ilahra and two or three other Companions along and reached the residence of Ka‘b. They called Ka‘b out from his living quarters and said, “Our Chief (i.e., Muhammad) demands charity of us, while we are of straitened circumstances. Would you be so kind as to give us a loan?” [21]. Upon hearing this, Ka‘b jumped with joy and said, “By God! This is nothing – the day is not far when you shall become averse to him and abandon him.” Muhammad (ra) responded, “In any case, we have already accepted Muhammad (sa) and are now waiting to see the final outcome of this dispensation, but you tell us whether or not you will give us a loan?” “Of course!” said Ka‘b, “But you will be required to deposit some collateral.” Muhammad (ra) inquired, “What do you require?” This wretched person responded, “Leave your women as collateral.” Suppressing his anger, Muhammad (ra) said, “How is it possible for us to leave our women as collateral to a man like yourself.” He responded, “Alright, then your sons shall do.” Muhammad (ra) responded, “This is not possible either, we cannot bear the reproach of the whole of Arabia. Albeit, if you are generous enough, we are willing to leave our arms with you as collateral.” Ka‘b agreed, and Muhammad bin Maslamah (ra) and his companions left with the promise to return at night. At nightfall, this party arrived at the residence of Ka‘b with their weapons (as now they were able to openly take their arms along). When they had led Ka‘b out of his home, they brought him to one side during the course of discussions. After some time, walking along, Muhammad bin Maslamah (ra) or some other companion raised his hand towards the head of Ka‘b by some excuse, and with great speed, taking firm hold of his hair, he called out to his companions, “Strike now!” The Companions, who were already prepared and armed, wielded their swords at once; finally Ka‘b was killed and fell to the ground. Muhammad bin Maslamah (ra) and his companions departed from there and quickly presented themselves to the Holy Prophet (sa), and conveyed to him the news of his execution [22].

RESPONSE OF THE JEWISH TRIBES OF MEDINA

When news of the execution of Ka‘b became known, a tremor rippled through the city, and the Jewish people were deeply enraged. The following day, in the morning, a delegation of the Jews presented themselves before the Holy Prophet (sa) and complained that their leader Ka‘b bin Ashraf had been murdered in such and such way. The Holy Prophet (sa) listened to their comments and said, “Are you also aware of the crimes which Ka‘b is guilty of?” Then, the Holy Prophet (sa) briefly reminded them of all the evil schemes which Ka‘b was guilty of, i.e., infraction of treaty, inciting war, sedition, use of foul language and conspiracy of assassination, etc [23, 24]. Upon this, the people became fearful and did not say a word [25, 26]. After this, the Holy Prophet (sa) said, “At least from here onwards, you would do well to live in peace and harmony, and do not sow the seed of enmity, violence and disorder.” As such, with the agreement of the Jews, a new treaty was drafted, and the Jews promised once again to live with the Muslims in peace and harmony, and to abstain from a course of violence and disorder [27, 28]. This treaty was entrusted to Hazrat Ali (ra) [29]. Furthermore, nowhere in history is it recorded that after this, the Jews ever mentioned the execution of Ka‘b bin Ashraf and accused the Muslims, for in their hearts they knew that Ka‘b received the rightful punishment due to him.

Source: https://www.trueislam.co.uk/articles/the-execution-of-kab-bin-ashraf/

Kdon2:
Nobody has monopply of madness. It's simple. You can't force your religion on people telling them accept or die and you think their won't be consequences

What is this one saying?

Silentgroper:
Bro .. I have been say the same thing ..

The man will keep us in the mid table at the end of this season..

Na so ooo!

wiseone28:
Stop criticizing every team always have a down time

This is not criticism. Though it might be at the lowest level, I have done this thing with my community and school teams over and over. I hate seeing someone who has more experience and resources than I do make silly mistake like this.

Just look at the substitutions na! Jones and Wirtz can't mark, you still get mind commot konate put Ryan for defence and return Szobo to right back. Is the midfield not open? What sense does this make. Did Liverpool play well? No. Again, look at the way our best two strikers are underperforming because they are not getting the ball through the middle. Liverpool has no red card or injury. Why the unnecessary sub?


If I were him, I will start both Robertson and Frimpong from the left and right back, Ali , Ryan and Szobo in the middle like he did.

For the sub, no need to remove Konate, and no need to introduce Wirtz. I will rather take off Ali and bring Endo then, move Ryan to the front. Replace Salah with Chiesa

crazygod:
Salah needs to be sold off by January. What kind of pride is that? Is he too big to track down the ball? He lost the ball and he couldn't even track back. What has Chiesa got to do to get a game time?

All depends on the manager. I have said it overtime, Slot is a mediocre.

For those of you hailing Slot, you can see him now! I have been saying it since last season but my fellow Liverpool supporters are not seeing what I see.

I said it, Slot is a mediocre!

No injury threat, no cards but see the substitutions.

Kerkez is not yet settled in this team. Leaving Frimpong on the bench to start Bradley, I don't know. If Slot can play Bradley ahead of frimpong, I think he should consider Robertson too.

Allahu Akbar!

tosyne2much:
And he won Premier league for them last season?

When all other teams were down? Compare last season to all other seasons under klopp.

Wordson:
it's obvious u aren't watching the game. We have got at least 4.

On target? I doubt it bro.

Even if we have, just judge the way we play now.

No single shot on target! I have said it since last year that slot is too small for this Liverpool team.

Our style of play is very boring! Nothing left in the midfield in this game.

crazygod:
From the coaching staff on the bench, I counted 6 assistant coaches. Our style of play has really changed from last season. We are now very slow in progressing the ball which is not good for our wingers like Gakpo. It's affecting him and Salah. We are very slow now. This is a case of too many cooks in the kitchen. Something has to be done very fast.

You are 1000% correct. I have been saying this overtime.

Szobo is currently on a good form at the moment, I don't know why slot can't use him at his usual position.

I am tired of this slot nonsense selection!


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omooba969:
Too early to deny Slot...hahaha

More of this to come.

It seems you don't know me.

Imagine! Imagine! Imagine! Imagine! Imagine! Imagine! Imagine! Imagine! Imagine! Imagine! Imagine! Imagine! Imagine! Imagine! Imagine!

ZombieDredd:
na so.

if na liverpool score 2-1, you would have started singing about how you are good at scoring late goals bla bla bla

Go back to all Liverpool threads and see my comments from last season.

I have never been a slot fan.