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Borrowing to pay salaries- So the "one chance" case don reach like this? Lmao


Nigeria o

bloodyBLOGGER:
another president coming on and doing the same is actually what we need, so long the looters get convicted with hard facts.
You cant keep doing things the same way and expecting a different result.

That's what we thought until you guys started asking for patriotism when u forgot the meaning of such during the last admin.
That's what we thought until you guys started asking nigerians to respect the office of the president

Back to topic, one cannot be guilty because the president says he's guilty. It has to be proven. That's my point

So just to defend N50 bank charge by the govt, Nigeria all of a sudden has become paradise? And the op ran away from the paradise and writing us from another man's hellfire
I hate when people just insult my sensibility

Cc: Dearpreye

ODVanguard:
Well, even you must agree that the OP has a point by citing past precedents of folks like the accused jumping bail and cooling off abroad on account of the 'rule of law' or abusing court processes to stall their trials. Something has to give. As it stands, the allegations against some of these people are too grave to risk releasing them only to end up jumping bail or using their influence to stall their own trial and convictions.

Anybody can be accused of anything literarily but the second side of it is the need for it to be proven.
I hope you preach the same thing when another president takes over and starts doing his own
Karma is very desperate these days. Let's keep that in mind

ODVanguard:
But what options are we now left with when an Ibori and his likes always manipulate the rule of law to get away with their crimes against the Nigerian people? When will enough be enough? Do we have to extradite them all to England to get a conviction? Are they the only ones that the rule of law is meant for? ? Na only poor people wey steal small money dey end up with long jail terms in Nigeria. For how long? ?

And what option are we left if people will just be getting convicted based on the feeling of the president? you're a saint if the president says so, and you're guilty if he says so
You don't see a problem with that abi?

balash:
Lmao!!

You'll soon tell me why you're laughing


Hypocrisyeverywhere#

In school I was taught that An accused is innocent until proven guilty

But with this govt, what I now understand is that an accused is guilty if the judge Buhari says he's guilty

Keneking:
Which kind arrangement be dis sef?

Emefiele sef

So says the same guy that was defending Kemi Adeosun on another thread

Would you have said this if Emefiele was Yoruba?

AreaFada2:
That makes the Northerners better politicians (not competent administrators) than Southerners can ever dream to be. At least with 9ja as it currently is.

When have you ever seen core Northern Muslims enthrone any Southerner except it happens by default (Gen. OBJ after Dimka coup in 1976) or to pacify their enraged ally ethnic group (again OBJ in 2009)?

Each time, they were repaid immediately: Shagari & Yar'Adua.

OBJ even duped Awolowo by changing the rules after election, as Awo was set to win parliamentary vote to be president, when the election did not give a clear winner.

Northerners know how to use so called educated Southerners against each other. Just dangle money & position.

Very true

dearpreye:
Very disgusting. I've become informed enough to understand you don't kill one of yours within this system.....never try to appear ONE NIGERIAN to the detriment of your own people....

Yes. Abacha never stole though we are still recovering his legendary loot more than a decade after his orchestrated death.......

Defend your people. ....That's your history.

Gbam
I don't recall northerners calling for the crucifixion of the likes of IBB, Abacha even their "misguided brothers" but today if you don't call for the crucifixion of GEJ, Kanu etc, you hate Nigeria. I don't like people insulting my sensibility and that's why people easily think I'm IPOB on this forum. No, I'll defend mine the way you defend yours. Chikena

I don't recall Yorubas calling out the likes of Tinubu, Fashola etc no no no. They're all saints except GEJ, Diezani or Iweala and my people will be cheering their oppressors

The funny thing is that after crucifying your own, kpatakpata you get the job of a driver or you don't get anything at all. Ask Ezekwesili. They still won't be trusted with any sensitive position for the sell out they are. And the marginalization continues

After all GEJ did to appear one Nigerian, where's he today? Did they not vote him out cos he's not one of their own?
Abeg leave matter

dearpreye:
No way....They'll be treated as misguided brothers. LOL!

Can't stop chuckling at this
Imagine how northerners protect their own. Misguided brothers indeed
Even 'Abacha never stole'
But if you don't crucify your brother GEJ, you're seen as one who doesn't love Nigeria. You'll now see my people creating threads up n down to hang their own just to accepted smh

Very sickening

dearpreye:
I'm so happy I'm gradually moving away from mindless religious to a position of common sense and critical thought.

It's my deepest believe that religion should serve as a means of elevating man from mediocrity to excellence; poverty to abundance; ignorance to knowledge, and from primitivity to civilisation. But for the inherent weaknesses of human nature, religion has been so effectively used to degrade the human sense, turn men into unthinking zombies, push men away from improved lifestyles into poverty, and exploit and rob unsuspecting people of their meagre resources.

What transpired in my RCCG parish earlier this morning was shocking, shameful and insulting to sane minds.

For the past 7 or so years, we the parish members have almost singlehandedly built our edifice from scratch. We struggled to get an expensive piece of land using bank loans after shifting from place to place, managed to put up the structure, and bought the sound system and other things to make the place conducive for members. Sadly, as the case is with the RCCG administration, more than 70% of what we generated within this period was still being sent to the province and from there it will land in the HQs in Lagos- Ibadan.

This morning our pastor announced we will be dedicating that edifice to the glory of God. The only issue is: our provincial pastors and others said we MUST make available the sum of money between N150, 000 to N200, 000 as honorarium before they will come around to dedicate the building. I almost went berserk.

When one of us asked why that should be the case, he was told that has been the tradition- that we must make money available whenever our top pastors come visiting the lower churches for whatever reasons. I'm still trying to wrap my head around it. It just doesn't make any iota of sense to me. It's absurd. This is nothing but religious exploitation. Why must the leaders ask us to pay for services we believe they're rendering to God? Somebody please help me.

As for me, I'm NOT giving a dime to that religious waste BUT I feel it's even terrible such traditions are allowed in the house of God. It's crazy.

Just when I was getting my head together, I was told that our G.O used to live in an apartment in the Redemption Camp before he moved into a more befitting one. Now, that apartment is being turned into a museum- members allegedly pay N500 to see inside. Another madness and exploitation. I just don't get mind around these things.

If religion keeps creating pains for me, of what benefit is it to me? Why don't more people speak out against these exploitation? It's insane.

Well said my brother. That was the same kind of issue I had with RCCG. And it had to do with church building collection too
I'm one person that understand the principle of giving. If we have a project, you don't need to preach before I make my own little contribution. I'm naturally not a stingy person so it's easy for me to help out in my own capacity.
But I have a BIG problem when the sermon begins to sound like people are being blackmailed to give for all kinds of things. For example, That you gave money for building is not enough if you didn't give for pastor's birthday or you didn't give offering or you missed tithe or you didn't contribute for a visiting pastor. All the different giving mutually exclusive
Imagine being told in church that the reason people are having a certain problem is because they didn't give in church. For example, your car broke down because you didn't pay tithe, or put differently, if you pay tithe, your car won't break down.smh. It has gotten to the point that if you have N50,000 tithe and you see a person needs N50,000 to start/save his life, you're not allowed to save that life with that 50K cos it's fit the church.
Whatever happens to Mathew 24:45 "Then the King will answer, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for Me.'"
I thought I had heard it all until one day a visiting pastor came. He was trying to get donations especially from men(women are always easy to convince) and was telling the church that if a man needs his wife to conceive and he's not paying tithe, he's wasting his time.
I just felt my sensibility has bn insulted enough
Each day we're told how we now live under grace but when it comes to giving, we must go back to Old Testament and emphasize it.

And why sending such a high percentage to headquarters when a project is ongoing thereby putting members under constant but avoidable pressure?

However it's almost everywhere these days. I was watching a pastor on TV saying that if you're poor and in debt, bring whatever u have left(literarily) and sow into his ministry if you want a turnaround. Can u believe that?

Don't blame the pastors or the church itself, blame the fanatical members.

Good morning to you

Oga Lalasticlala na your hand e dey
more people should read this.