The numbers 1985 and 1975 may not be referring to years. The numbers could be places or locations.

heartofcity12:


Rest

You too.

heartofcity12:
True

That's a wrong doctrine man. Do you want a dumb, naive woman whom you can push around and control or an interesting person whom you can engage meaningful conversations with and can offer support in your endeavors ?

I hope he'll also give them money to buy fuel. These acts only encourage christians to serve man instead of God.

IAmHim1:
In the first picture, the man is LEANING INTO the woman while the woman is LEANING AWAY from the man

Leaning into and leaning away sounds like a contradiction oxymoron but pay attention to this message I'm passing


In this first picture, both the woman and man failed the Green Line Test.
The woman IS SUPPOSED to lean into her man to SHOW Submission WHILE THE MAN maintains a straight figure resembling a rock...that tree that doesn't get moved by petty breeze to SHOW Dominance

The woman, by leaning AWAY from her supposed husband has just revealed a body language that shows she won't be submissive to him in marriage AND the man BY LEANING INTO his wife has revealed his body language that he will submit to the leadership of his wife



It may sound like I'm blowing things out of proportion but body language works. It's the reason why you feel someone putting his or her hands in their pocket either

1) Has something to hide
2) is protecting something valuable

Like you just feel it. Either ways, it sends a message: This person can't be fully trusted because he/she might be hiding something

And the best way to display honesty and trust is BY REVEALING YOUR HANDS. That's why in interview or dates, you gotta show your hands once a while to send a message that you are being transparent...that is "i'm not hiding anything. You can trust me and we can bond like white on rice"

**There's nothing like black rice. Have you ever seen one lolzzzz***


Women read body language better than men and these subtle display of dominance or submission matters and will matter in the long run

Like your seat position during a date: As a Dominant Man with strong leadership qualities, you must sit in a position that easily makes you see the door of your date venue. This way, you can easily see the threat that may walk into the room FIRST and act in ways that benefits you and your woman first.

This is the standard for military men. They must sit in a position that they can easily see the door. That's why you never see a soldier sit in a position that shows his back to the door UNLESS he is sitting with his fellow comrades

Even while entering bus or UBER with your girl: She must be inside the vehicle first and if there is an open window, it must only be in your sit position and not hers. The car door window of her sit position should be closed while yours should be opened in case of a threat that may want to access her by invading the car window of her position

Even while trekking with her: she stays in the inside of the road while you stay on the outside. Ask questions if you're not getting it yet

So far, the BEST TEACHERS for body language, speaking and reading, are:

1) Alpha Rivelino, Twitter, Green Line Theory

2) Shayna Wahedi, YouTube. (He uses scenes from Suits and Peaky Blinders to pass his message)

As you were fellas

Bro green line test is pure bullshit

Fattprince23:

I'm not acting like I know. I'm working towards being an high valued man. And IF I become one I'm learning right now not to make a bad decision by raising a dirty female to great status only to face back and pull me down just because she feels she's equal and if she can pull someone like me then she can surely pull someone better with what I've helped to raise her to be.

Good luck on your journey into becoming a high valued man, and your search for that spotless virgin of a blushing bride you desire. But in the process don't dirty other women.

Fattprince23:

You just aren't only contradicting yourself at this point but also being delusional at best and stupid at worst. So are you now saying when that glorious moment come when we are high valued we should take back this women that are damaged and became wasted by other men they desired then that have left them? Or am I missing the point that you are just being sarcastic?

Bro, chill.
Why are acting as if you know you'll ever become a high valued man?
If ever you reach that height (lol), come back and repeat your question.

Jeez, are Yorubas the only people in Nigeria? Everything is about them

benzics:


Men have more opportunities to have sex than women you say? Spoken like someone who truly knows nothing about what they’re saying.

See, I’m not encouraging men to be promiscuous, I’m just putting into perspective how men and women view each other based on sexuality.

I love analogies 😁

Now imagine you own a company, and you have two salespersons, A and B. A and B are given the same products and quantity to sell to customers. Let’s say the product quantity is 20.

Salesperson A comes back after selling 15 products, he sold them at the right prices and even made his own personal gain along the way.

Salesperson B comes back after selling 15 products, he sold them at prices even less than the cost price, he basically just said yes to whatever offer people were offering just so he could make sales not minding the loss his actions will cause the company.

Now, as the company owner, do you reward A and B the same because they both sold 15 products?

Woah, sorry bro. I feel your pain. I'll put you in my prayers, that God should open opportunities for you to score chicks abundantly. May you have the kind of anointing that would make girls leave their their boyfriends when they see you. Go forth brethren,sex shall never be like gold for you anymore.

Wotowotoman:
Una go dey shout redpill up and down but to reason logically una no fit. How can you take seriously a man that says it’s okay for a man to sleep with all kinds of women but a woman is a Hoe when she does the same? You guys are idiots!

Bro, no waste your data on people with this mindset. They are guys who barely have sex or never had one at all. It pains them that women, especially the ones they desire,have sex with other men except them. They await that glorious moment in the future when they've become high valued men and these women have become wasted and regretting why they didn't choose men like them years ago. I'm not supporting sexual immorality but many of these guys are not after a virtuous woman or a stable marriage yet, they want sexual dominance. They'll gladly disvirgin any girl and lead her to hell if it's for free and soothes their ego and libido.

monerozi5590:



Just imagine the bolded. Mehn! So this is the kind of girls you want us to marry because the world has lost its innocence what it comes to sex?

But if "the kind of girls I want you to marry" offers you free sex without any consequences, you will collect na.

monerozi5590:


You just d contradict yourself. Virginity is a good indicator.


You are talking about morality. So girls wei d sleep around before marriage get morals. SMH.

Her past matters. Man and woman are the same and they will never be.

I'm not contradicting myself, just trying to clear the hypocrisy and black-and-white thinking many guys are adopting. As I said before, there are context to certain things, don't rush into judgement without trying to find out full information. People loose their virginity for different reasons nowadays. And the women who sleep around, don't they do it with other men like us? Or do they disvirgin themselves?
Look, the world has lost its innocence when it comes to sex. Virginity or non virginity, someone without a proper mindset on sex, marriage, or family building would make a bad spouse. And our mindset drives our actions.

benzics:

Are we not saying the same thing? Is money plucked from trees? How many men have 2k to spare for sex?
Sex is still a rare commodity for a man, because he doesn’t get that easily, unless you’re of the opinion that money can be gotten easily for everyone.

Does a woman need to pay 2k to have sex? Even the ugliest women get sexual advances from good looking men, can you say the same for an ugly man?

Gold is highly valued because it’s rare, not because it’s shiny, a rare commodity that people love is a highly valued commodity.

Sex is to man what Gold is to humans(Gold is rare).
Sex is to woman what Sand is to humans(Sand is everywhere).

Come back when men can get sex as easy as women, till then, keep wallowing in your ignorance.

Sex is not gold for a man. We're just obsessed with it that's why. It's easy to get, believe me. Men have more opportunities to have sex and be aroused than women. Most men's life are just controlled by sex.

monerozi5590:
Her past matters a lot. Don't allow society to deceive you.

A virgin is a good indicator of a successful marriage.

If you find a good/ decent woman with traditional values, keep her.

Virginity is not an indicator of a successful marriage. Not everything in this world is black and white, there are context to many things. Some girls are virgins because they're either ugly or haven't just gotten the opportunity to have sex. What matters in this case is her morality and her view of relationship, family life,and sex.
If her past matters, then yours too should. Your past as man even has more impact on the dynamic of your family.

Polygamists, una dey try o. Simplify your life and marry one woman. E get why .

1Sharon:


Lazy men. Nothing fails like prayer.

God hates black people.

Hmmm, then God should just create toll free numbers his children on earth could call him with if they have any request.

When you see men this serious in prayers it's not for marriage. It's either for job proposal, or business prosperity, or financial breakthrough. When that money lands women must come.

olamoses75:
modified! The picture depicted the character of the real PRICE!

The guy was fooling around. That's exactly how women on tinder describe themselves.

If I found out that my child I raised for years is not actually mine but another's, I would send my wife packing but not the child. I know it sounds simpish but fatherhood is beyond blood. I already have a strong love for the child and I wouldn't want her to suffer for her mother's wrongdoings. And it would be confusing and traumatising to the child if she realizes that I'm not her biological father and I was kicking her out - she might even hate her mother in the process.

wahaladondey:
Gentlemen of the manosphere, I am about to ask one of the most timeless questions ever, I hope you all don’t mind that this question has been asked and answered countlessly and just try to help me in whatever capacity you can. Lately, I have found myself in one of the most socially packed communities, a school, I am aware that this is one of the few places game works efficiently because of the nature of its build and that is why I want to grasp this opportunity to boost my social life and skills but on every normal day I am a very introverted person, almost bordering on low self-esteem.

How do I start and maintain a conversation with a lady I find attractive? I am not the best conversationalist, I get fidgety and fear I might sound or look stupid whenever I engage in a conversation, externally I seem to exude some form of confidence but internally I’m usually just breaking down.

How do I steer the conversations in a more sexual direction? My hurtful degree of self awareness keeps a tight rope around what I feel I should be socially acceptable to say or not, it makes me not want to come across as offensive or perverted.

I want to build up on whatever advices I can get, make them practical and deliver results to this forum, thanks in anticipation.

I would further edit this post if I have more questions.

Karlifate
luminouz
Rizzputin
Martinez39s
Pukkalolo
Ubunja
and other real gees on this thread in no particular order.

Hey, also check out books like:
3% Man by Corey Wayne
Models by Mark Manson
Book of Pook
They give some excellent advice and suggestions

wahaladondey:
Gentlemen of the manosphere, I am about to ask one of the most timeless questions ever, I hope you all don’t mind that this question has been asked and answered countlessly and just try to help me in whatever capacity you can. Lately, I have found myself in one of the most socially packed communities, a school, I am aware that this is one of the few places game works efficiently because of the nature of its build and that is why I want to grasp this opportunity to boost my social life and skills but on every normal day I am a very introverted person, almost bordering on low self-esteem.

How do I start and maintain a conversation with a lady I find attractive? I am not the best conversationalist, I get fidgety and fear I might sound or look stupid whenever I engage in a conversation, externally I seem to exude some form of confidence but internally I’m usually just breaking down.

How do I steer the conversations in a more sexual direction? My hurtful degree of self awareness keeps a tight rope around what I feel I should be socially acceptable to say or not, it makes me not want to come across as offensive or perverted.

I want to build up on whatever advices I can get, make them practical and deliver results to this forum, thanks in anticipation.

I would further edit this post if I have more questions.

Karlifate
luminouz
Rizzputin
Martinez39s
Pukkalolo
Ubunja
and other real gees on this thread in no particular order.

This might be leaning towards the self improvement spectrum but it might be useful I'm someway:
The foundation beneath attracting a woman or being able to approach a woman you like is confidence. I don't mean bullheaded arrogance. Confidence is the root of mastery, and that is something that comes from within. Look at your life, what are the areas in your life that you have mastery over? Is it your skills? Or your talent? Or your hobby? Or your academic exploits? What are those things that when you do you feel like a boss? Strive to become a master in those areas. You may not be a pro at those things at the go but the feeling you get from being adept or at least enthusiast about these factors would boost your confidence. Women are naturally attracted to men who "know and can do". And they can smell confidence in a man like a perfume. Confidence and mastery are testaments of reliability, and that turns women on. Even if you don't have skills or hobbies or redeeming factors, think of what you want to improve in your life that would give you great satisfaction.

This is a dichotomy and one side of a coin. What are those things in your life that you're not confident about? They could be bad habits, or your financial state, or your self image. These factors could be the source of shame, and nothing kills confidence better than shame. And when you are ashamed or have low confidence it affects your interaction with women because you'll be afraid of that shameful situation suddenly revealing itself to them.

How you'll engage with women and initiate sex, I can't give you answer to that. Maybe you should start with average looking women, or perhaps pickup artists in the house can help.

In a nutshell build upon the factors which will give you confidence and at the same time try to reduce the factors that bring you shame, one by one. It's about you and your own wellbeing in this matter, women use the lure of romance and sex to subtly control the dating pool and there's nothing you can do when you're rejected, just move on.

Tellmeastory:


YOU ARE VERY IGNORANT. PLEASE JUST SHUSH...

Racism has nothing to do with YOU.

OKAY?

Whites are even more racist to blacks when they see black success.

You people have this idea that if tomorrow you become advanced, and developed, that whites would not be racist.

Which shows you DON'T understand racism.

Racism is caused by HATE.

They HATE you because you are BLACK OR BROWN.

NO OTHER REASON.

And when you are rIch AND black, they experience DOUBLE THE PAIN, and DETEST you more.

You have something that THEY don't have, which is MELANIN.

The ability to produce COLOUR.

Because that makes them genetically recessive, ie when a black and a white couple produce a child, the child is a child of COLOUR.

So their racism, ie racial discrimination, is a defence mechanism to protect their white race from annihilation.

They ENVY you because of your ability to produce COLOUR.

That is what RACISM is.

Afro-Americans who have lived with them for centuries understand this.

Read up on the 'Black Wall Street' incident in 1929.

The freed-from-slavery blacks began to prosper economically, and built an economic hub in Tulsa, Oklahoma, which came to be known as the 'Black Wall Street'.

The area began producing black industrialists, millionaires, top bankers, lawyers, doctors etc.

Guess what happened.

Thousands of whites descended on the place, and over two days, destroyed the area, burnt it down, and slaughtered hundreds of black professionals in cold blood.

Just out of envy and hate. Nothing else.

So white racism has NOTHING to do with what you do in your countries or don't do.

In fact they are less racist to you when you are poor/underdeveloped, because they feel less threatened.

Till today they prefer to send you ‘aid’ than do real business with you. That makes them feel better.

The reason they targeted that US Secretary of Defense was the exact same reason they destroyed the Black Wall Street.

The reason they target famous black millionaire footballers in stadiums with 'monkey chants' is for the exact same reason they destroyed the Black Wall Street.

When you are poor and black, whites are the nicest people to you.

If you are rich and successful, they resent it and they HATE you.

See how they hate China now? Chinese have melanin. They are yellow. They are big and non-white, so they are not supposed to be advanced, in the eyes of whites.

The west never hated and slandered China 3 decades ago when they were poor. But now they have made them their enemies due to their success. There is even talk of war against China.

Same thing will happen when Africa becomes more developed.

Now you know what white racism is.

Racism is not reserved for the whites only, any race can display forms of racial hatred upon another. It just depends on where you stand.

It's human nature to oppress the weakest and poorest of it's kind, that is why i believe that racism against blacks can be solved when we start growing richer and developing ourselves. Poverty makes you a whipping boy and high status grants you respect from others.

On the black wall street, people will always be envious and insecured about your success especially when they believe they're supposed to be better than you, but that should not stop your ambition. When you're successful it's to your own benefit. At a point people will try sabotage you, but with time they'll have no choice than to respect and work with you.

The issue US has with China is more of politics than race. China is a powerful communist nation, and Uncle Sam hates anything communist. If you think it's about race, why don't they have issues with South Korea, Singapore, or Japan who was a tough rival of theirs during WW2.

blackgold2018:
I can never agree to such celibacy bullshit.

Infant a celibacy relationship is not a relationship. Women normally do that when they meet a nice guy coming to them for a serious relationship for marriage. They will claim celibate while they get serviced regularly by their boyfriend.

I can only agree to such if you are a virgin.

If you're celibate, you're celibate for yourself. Not for her.

PinkNature:
This is the direction I'm driving towards. Since the inception of this thread, we've directly or indirectly channelled all our energy and time towards women. (Which was great)

But times are changing, I don't know about some of the members here, but having all TRP knowledge, without applying it in real life, is a plain waste of knowledge.

Some people here, will forever remain below the ladder simply because they're;

Overweight, skinny, bad dress sense, dead broke, inability to hold sensible conversations, body odour, shy, inability to last more than 30 seconds in bed, inability to adapt to working environment etc.

Why is all our energy channeled towards women? How many women can you date and Bleep in a year?

Since COVID till date, all we've been on is just women, women, and women.

They're other things to achieve in life than just women.

Talking about women is important. A Woman plays an essential role in a man's life, the right woman would be a huge plus in your life and the wrong woman would mess you up and drive you crazy with her words and mind games. A lot of men have fallen in the hands of a woman. Deep down men seek the praise of women and tie their ego to it - the more he is hailed and worshipped by women, the more masculine he feels. And when he is shunned by a woman it hits his ego. Since the earliest human civilization, the more powerful a man was in terms of strength and resources, the more women he could acquire. So any man who was single by a certain age was either seen as a failure, handicapped or inept. Many men would rather be seen as murderers and rapists than to be seen as unable to lay conquest upon a woman.
The reason again why women are highly talked about in men spaces is because they act as a reward and motivating factor for men to build society.Men are wanderers by nature. If men only followed their natural instinct and only came to women only for sex, and that alone, and had no desire to raise the offspring which comes from that union, there would be no stable civilization. So society straightens men's desire for women and enforces him to a sort of arrangement where he is to commit to a woman and her offspring if he is to have sex with her - this arrangement is called marriage and family. If a man is committed to a wife and child, he puts all his best to the society and its government to ensure their safety, even if it means going to war. A good example is the story of Jacob, Rachel, and Laban.
The thing is ever since the industrial age and the sexual revolution, especially the latter, the sexual marketplace has become a jungle, women's demand for men has dropped due to equal financial opportunities, the motivating factor behind committing to a relationship has has dropped too.
There is a power tussle between the masculine and feminine for sexual dominance. You have to understand the order and meaning of the masculine and feminine nature. I believe that subconsciously the masculine has an attraction to the feminine, and vice-versa.

How i see God has changed, and what I'm looking for, I can't find it in the Church. And I tend to feel more like a loner in the congregation because of that. Though I'm more of a humanist now I still go because of my folks.

Profgordons:
I am struggling to find your values here that wants to make you stay.

That's why it's called personal values. It's mine, and mine alone to understand.

online4business:

You probably don't have the means to leave Nigeria that's why you think this way.

Show me any politicians nnpc group director army navy or airforce top brass with kids without dual citizenship.

Even your obi atiku and tinubu all have don't decieve yourself;

All people with mean all their children sr dual citizenship.

I've traveled to Cyprus on a phantom student visa saw the charade and left.

However, I've traveled almost all states in Nigeria and many west African countries.

Let me ask you a question I'd ask myself before I became a Ugandan citizen.

Do you what your kids to experience what you're going through?

Smell the coffee things will only get worse and life is too easy to suffer for anyone.

The majority of Nigerians like suffering how can you explain tinubu and buhari ruling Nigeria.

Get out now why you can; it's about to get ugly like omobaba's face.

If you'd even travel please be open to learn a new language.

People find it hard to cope but with small money and a few favours you can overcome.

Please avoid coming to foreign country to show off no body really cares... Way different living in Nigeria compare to other African nations.

Well, that's your own perspective. Our values and perspectives have a way of determining how we want to live our lives. It influences our religious believes, what kind of career we have, our work ethics, our relationship with people, and even who we marry. Perhaps you see things from the perspective of total survivalism, I don't.
You may be right, I I don't have the means to leave, but what can I do? I won't fold up and see myself as a victim of a certain nation. I will have to somehow make things good for myself and my people, pursue a higher purpose, and be grateful that I'm at least in a better state than many. I may leave eventually, but with a clear sense of purpose and meaning.

Profgordons:
If I may ask, what is Nigerian culture?

OK perhaps I was generalising. To talk about Nigeria sometimes you have to be specific about what part of Nigeria you're referring to, eg North, west or South. But in our modern age culture spreads, and by culture I don't mean the ones passed on to us by ancestors, I mean certain environments, social norms and values that make up these cultures. Sometimes to understand a culture we have to understand the mindset and values of the society practicing it. There are certain trends and way of behavior and mindset you'll see among different citizens of the country, and some of them are not good.
For example we have a materialistic culture, our societies have a damn obsession for money and prestige. We are so easy to bribe and emotionally sway with money. In the south we love enjoyment, sex and splendor, this desire combined with poverty triggers our endless love for money. Even our love for God is connected to money and materialism. I've observed that in societies where piety and simple living is not recognized, money becomes a god, and thus poverty prevails, and corruption thrives where there is poverty. Haven't you ever wondered why in poor environments songs about money and sex sells well?

One reason I don't have an enthusiasm to japa at the moment is because of my personal values and my view of life, work, and the world. If i want to japa, i do so because there things about the country i personally admire about the place I'm immigrating to, like language and culture, and suits my person. I don't believe in migrating out of the country for survival means except in periods of political insurgency, war, and natural disaster.

Everywhere is fukked, there's no Utopia anywhere, even in the so called USA and Canada where people see as heaven, unspeakable things happen to people over there. You'll go online and see their citizens complaining bitterly about the state of their nation. Some Americans even believe that there is an incoming civil war and advice leaving the country. When you look at all the paranoia in the West it makes you ponder. You look at Nigeria despite how messed up the system is, we're still better than many countries in the world - by a far margin.

I believe in living life with meaning and purpose, if you can't live a meaningful life in Nigeria, you can't have one in another land which has a different culture. If you go to a "greener pasture" with the purpose of mere survival soon it would turn brown. Nigeria can be fixed, every great nation has had it's fair share of bad leaders and economic meltdown, and they fixed it. Nigeria can be fixed. I believe that many problems in Nigeria are interpersonal and has it's roots in our culture and family systems .

PinkNature:


Please rest, rest and rest about all this copy and paste posts about women.

Basing our discussions about women alone, is plain retrogression.

Self development, grooming for men, exercise tips, how to manage our finances etc should be of top priority.

I'm tired of seeing grown men wail about women every single day.

Some people here aren't even in a relationship, which literally means that posts about women will literally build up hate.

It's not like we can have more than 10 women at a time. So why all the wailing about women every now and then?

Don't mind them. They'll be parroting "based" tweets from online redpill "gurus" who cannot even boast of a sustainable relationship. This makes them look like the male version of woke feminists.

mablie:


@Emboldened

You did not add their obsession with scientists producing robot women, the western black,asian,latin manospherians obsession with white women and the western white manospherians obsession with Asian women

That obsession for certain races is true and I feel it is influenced by porn and the media which gives them distorted views of women. Their white guys get triggered and intimidated when a white girl chooses a black guy over them. They even go as far ridiculing a mixed race person if they discover their mom is white and single.

EreluRoz:
It seems you are new here, I've been with these people for long and I know redpillers like the back of my hands. Even when I deactivate I still check them and see the vile they preach against women. Don't worry they'll be backto counter you seriously and you'll understand better.

You haven't seen anything. This is one of the best redpill groups you'll ever find on the internet. Not saying this because I'm Nigerian, I've been to the redpill groups in forums like reddit and 4chan and I'll tell you we're nice.Very, very nice. Though this thread might be flooded with incels it's still very grounded to reality and promotes self improvement(sometimes). Most western redpill groups out there are choked with racism and pedos. Some of the guys there talk like drug addicts who see Andrew Tate as a divinity. They are obsessed with video games, animes, Trump, war, wojak memes, roman empire and medieval Europe. Unlike white redpill a lot of guys here like Cave are matured in thinking and more in tuned with the reality of being a man in today's world.