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PoliticsRe: WHY IKWERRE, OGBA PEOPLE AND THEIR SO CALLED BENIN RELATIONSHIP...NOSA by saddler: 11:14pm On Nov 17, 2024
Cindypresh:
Ajayi crowther learnt ibo language from thin air??

Stop showing me the work of an Igbo priest under bishop crowther that he went and published and plastered his name all over.

He published someone else's work
That's according to you. But the book says otherwise.

The first ever book written in igbo language was by a Yoruba man called Ajayi Crowther. His name is written there boldly.
PoliticsRe: WHY IKWERRE, OGBA PEOPLE AND THEIR SO CALLED BENIN RELATIONSHIP...NOSA by saddler: 10:36pm On Nov 17, 2024
Cindypresh:
Missionaries came and taught them ibo languages they themselves learnt from Europe?? You see you no get sense?

Who teach ikwerre people the language that is related to the missionaries language that they taught to the people called Igbo today??

Do you think Anambra alone speak the same dialect? Have you heard Nsukka person speak? So the missionaries taught Nsukka people nsukka-ibo, ikwerre people ikwerre-ibo etc??

And finally, how did the missionaries grouped them together??
The ibo language was borrowed from ikwerre, ika, Ogba and other related languages.

Why did Ajayi Crowther have to start teaching the supposed owners of a language their own language? Please answer.

PoliticsRe: WHY IKWERRE, OGBA PEOPLE AND THEIR SO CALLED BENIN RELATIONSHIP...NOSA by saddler: 10:33pm On Nov 17, 2024
Cindypresh:
Missionaries came and taught them ibo languages they themselves learnt from Europe?? You see you no get sense?

Who teach ikwerre people the language that is related to the missionaries language that they taught to the people called Igbo today??

Do you think Anambra alone speak the same dialect? Have you heard Nsukka person speak? So the missionaries taught Nsukka people nsukka-ibo, ikwerre people ikwerre-ibo etc??

And finally, how did the missionaries grouped them together??
Through Ajayi Crowther who had to start teaching the imported slaves ibo language so they can have identity.

Here is proof:

PoliticsRe: WHY IKWERRE, OGBA PEOPLE AND THEIR SO CALLED BENIN RELATIONSHIP...NOSA by saddler: 10:31pm On Nov 17, 2024
Cindypresh:
I can't even see Yoruba or igbo on the map? Are they Edo too??

Why are you not answering Benin names like they do in Edo state? Why are your villages named "ụmụ" instead of "Omo"??
Are villages in Benin/Edo named "omo"?

Or you guys just take delight in going off-point?
PoliticsRe: WHY IKWERRE, OGBA PEOPLE AND THEIR SO CALLED BENIN RELATIONSHIP...NOSA by saddler: 9:43pm On Nov 17, 2024
EmekaA125:
Igbo is a very ancient tribe that has been in existence for years. What was recent is Christianity in 1857.
Ofcourse the ancestors of the igbos are ancient. The difference is that they were not in this present location in Nigeria.

Igbo as a tribe in Nigeria is a very recent thing. Most of the people called igbo today were not known by that name till the missionaries came and grouped them together and taught them ibo language.
PoliticsRe: WHY IKWERRE, OGBA PEOPLE AND THEIR SO CALLED BENIN RELATIONSHIP...NOSA by saddler: 8:09pm On Nov 17, 2024
EmekaA125:
Lol
You are older than Igbo with ur 300k population home and abroad??
Nairaland is becoming a comic forum.
Population size doesn't determine age of a tribe.
PoliticsRe: WHY IKWERRE, OGBA PEOPLE AND THEIR SO CALLED BENIN RELATIONSHIP...NOSA by saddler: 11:24am On Nov 17, 2024
Odingo1:
You are mistaken IDU kingdom that stretches to Onitsha with Benin kingdom that came much later after the collapse of Ogiso Igodomigodo to Oba. All the Benin artefacts, Royal symbols of Eben or Ada belong to IDU kingdom of which some Igbo communities of Igbanke-Ika-Anioma down to Agbor-Umunede to Onitsha was part of it. Benin took the glory of IDU because they are last of the collapse kingdom of IDU that the Yorubas Aromiya conquered smaller fragmented Igodomigodo.

Smaller part of Igbo like Ika and Igbanke are part of Igodomigodo by that time larger part of Igbo have left with the collapse of IDU kingdom to smaller Igodomigodo after various fighting.

You keep on mentioning Ajayi Crowther that was born yesterday 1809, he is not even upto 220 years old. There is some Igbos that are 120 years still alive today.
Gibberish!
PoliticsRe: WHY IKWERRE, OGBA PEOPLE AND THEIR SO CALLED BENIN RELATIONSHIP...NOSA by saddler: 10:44am On Nov 17, 2024
Odingo1:
Your write up is always laughable grin grin, read about Idu kingdom and the various fight that collapsed it to smaller Igodomigodo and later to smaller Edo/Ado before the fall last Ogiso to first Oba and renaming it to ile Bini (a name given to it by Yorubas Aromiya) before the Portuguese started calling it Benin.

IDU kingdom stretches upto Onitsha before it collapsed to smaller Igodomigodo.

Ajayi crowther is just of recent and didn’t have the capacity to do such, he is just a writer of books.
Igodomigodo was a smaller kingdom and was only in present day Benin city. Igodomigodo didn't even cover the whole of Edo state today so, igbos were never part of it.

It was the Benin Empire that stretched to Onitsha and this is evident in the Royal symbol(Ada and Eben) of Obi of Onitsha.

Quit lying grin grin. The evidence is just too glaring.

Igbos always grappling at straws when it comes to history .

Today you are from Isreal, tomorrow you are from Eri , next tomorrow you are now Idu grin grin.


Ajayi Crowther brought strangers ( slaves) together and taught them ibo language.

Argue with the proof below:

PoliticsRe: WHY IKWERRE, OGBA PEOPLE AND THEIR SO CALLED BENIN RELATIONSHIP...NOSA by saddler: 9:54am On Nov 17, 2024
Odingo1:
You just drive joy in deceiving yourself, nobody is grabbing your land, migration from Benin doesn’t mean that the progenitors that migrated from Benin are not Igbos, before the establishment of Benin kingdom from Yorubas Aromiya with the help of Portuguese, there is IDU kingdom before Igodomigodo, Igbos are part of IDU before Akalaka and Eze-Chime migrated out of IDU not even Benin because Benin kingdom came yesterday.

The said Ajayi Crowther is a returned refugee from America that just wrote a book about languages in Nigeria and didn’t form any language, stop showing your ignorance on public.
Igbos were never part of Igodomigodo. Go check the names of the kings that ruled Igodomigodo, none were igbos.

There was no record of igbos in Igodomigodo history.

Ajayi Crowther took part of Igala, Ika, and Ikwerre languages and taught the people (slaves) that were in Igbo land.

Check the igbo traditional dressing too...its even a more recent thing, from the red cap/winter cap to the Akpoche, there were all borrowed.


This is the reason the Onitsha Monarchy will always stand by its Benin Origin because they know the rest igbos are descendants of slaves.
PoliticsRe: WHY IKWERRE, OGBA PEOPLE AND THEIR SO CALLED BENIN RELATIONSHIP...NOSA by saddler:
caleboxylic:
Lol!
How is emuoha man related to elele, isiokpo, or igwuruta man?
All of the present ikwerre clans migrated from ndoki, arochukwu, ngwa, ogba, ekpeye and owerri clans. People of Aluu, igwuruta, isiokpo, elele, emuoha, rebisi, and obio/akpor all migrated from different igbo and igba/ekpeye clans.

Let me just summarise this for you, as long as you have kp in your names, you are an igbo man.
Shalom!
You people have started again!

This was the same dumb conclusion Nnamdi Kanu who is enjoying his time in DSS dungeon said that all tribes tieing two wrappers are igbos.

He forgot that just a few decades ago, igbos were still very naked when British was administering Nigeria.

Names having "kp" are very much rooted in Edo.

For example Ikpomwosa, Sakponba. Even Urhobo have them too e.g Sammie Okposo.

Igbos should stop this inferiority complex and be proud of themselves. Stop trying attachment by force.
PoliticsRe: WHY IKWERRE, OGBA PEOPLE AND THEIR SO CALLED BENIN RELATIONSHIP...NOSA by saddler: 5:24am On Nov 17, 2024
Odingo1:
You can’t be speaking Igbo and be claiming Bini, saying you lost your Bini language to Igbo, that is laughable, just say that you people are denying been Igbo for political reasons.
Ode!

Ika, Ikwerre, Ogba and the rest do not speak igbo.

They speak their own distinct language. That there are similarities in language is normal everywhere in the world. Even within the igbo group, they dont understand themselves e.g there are groups in Enonyi state whose language is not understand by other igbos.

Another fact is that, ika, Ikwerre and other south south nationalities are older than igbo.
These groups have a well defined history and how their progenitor migrated from Benin. Same cannot be said about igbos who till this day cannot tell the world where they came from.

Stop trying to be a land grabber and focus on your five plots of land. It was Ajayi that caused this nonsense when he brought strange people together and started teaching them a language called "ibo".

RomanceRe: Desperate Nigerian Girls Sell Nudes For Cash by saddler: 6:34pm On Nov 16, 2024
lipsrsealed
Christianity EtcRe: Retire, Go Home – Inibehe Effiong Slams Adeboye Over ‘God Saved Naira’ Comment by saddler: 2:32pm On Nov 16, 2024
lipsrsealed
PoliticsRe: Governor Okpebholo Makes Six Fresh Appointments In Edo by saddler: 3:38am On Nov 16, 2024
MadamVanessa:
Another thing ,,shey Dem swear give Edo state with Ugly governors. shocked shocked
I dey very sure say your papa or any other male in your family no fine reach this governor.

If na lie, post their pictures.
Foreign AffairsRe: FBI Arrests Leaker Of US Intelligence Documents Related To Israel’s Attack Plans by saddler: 8:54am On Nov 14, 2024
undecided
CareerRe: 'I Was Moderating Hundreds Of Horrific And Traumatising Videos' by saddler: 3:45pm On Nov 12, 2024
embarassed
Foreign AffairsRe: Moment Equitorial Guinea's Official, Balthazar Ebang Arrived In Court (video) by saddler: 3:30pm On Nov 08, 2024
cool
RomanceRe: If Your Woman Is In This Type Of Group, Please Run For Life. by saddler: 3:20pm On Nov 07, 2024
From the name you can see she is igbo.

The other woman that wanted to poison Yoruba and Benin is igbo too.
Christianity EtcRe: US Election: VeryDarkMan Calls Out Apostle Johnson Suleman Over Failed Prophecy by saddler: 10:44am On Nov 07, 2024
grin
CrimeRe: How Housewife Forced Teenager To Sleep With Husband To Give Them Child by saddler: 7:05pm On Nov 06, 2024
undecided
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by saddler: 9:45pm On Nov 05, 2024
E be like say una wan collect today
Foreign AffairsRe: What's The Link Between The USA Election And The Balthazar Sex Scandal by saddler: 6:51pm On Nov 05, 2024
Fortune109:
Ok!

When it first played out in the recent Edo election...i saw the whole picture but... I mean the video of a woman who asked Yoruba and Edo people to be poisoned...that has to trend during Edo election...Exactly why??
But listen! That Woman singularly united Edo people with APC...

If you know you know!




USA is the Topic for now not Edo!

So...

Don't have too much to say but If you can think just think...

Why would a high profile individual such as Mr Balthazar have sex with married women and video almost every single of the acts??

Why would so many wives (not 1 not 2 women) of high profile individuals agree to perform sexual acts with another man on Camera??

Why would Mr Balthazar want to keep all those tapes for himself?? For what purposes?? To rewatch them everyday?? Na!

Ok!

So USA is having their General elections today...USA is not just a country...they are presently the world Super Power and the World's number one economy...So USA is very important to many Power players all over the world...

Perhaps the Western Power Players don't see a woman as strong enough to captain the Ship at the moment giving the enormous threats to the US world influence right now... coming from the likes of Russia/China and their allies...

Psychologically how do you think the Barthazar Sex Scandal would not affect the Psyche of an average voter in the US...

Do you think more people who initially wanted to vote for the woman won't change their mind at the moment??

Don't you think this Scandal has really dented majorly the image of women in the world at the moment favouring Mr Trump??

If the tape has been just about 1 or 2 women it wouldn't have made much impact around the world like its currently trending...it has to be very much like 400 tapes to really achieve its purpose...

Now the question is...

Will you vote for A woman if you are a US voter at this time??

My take!

Politics is controlled by extremely Powerful dark entities...




If you know you know!
Many are mad , few are roaming grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Sexual Scandal: Equatorial Guinea Government Restricts Whatsapp by saddler: 2:07pm On Nov 05, 2024
undecided
CrimeRe: Lady Packages Trash And Sends It To Customer Who Paid Her With A Fake Alert (pix by saddler: 9:23am On Nov 05, 2024
tongue
Foreign AffairsRe: Equatorial Guinea Sex Scandal: Woman Allegedly Commits Suicide On Seeing Videos by saddler: 7:26am On Nov 05, 2024
anonymuz:
but the recording is not normal. I once did it but it was audio recording, deleted it days after. She consented to it though.
Like i wrote, its not enough to take her own life
Foreign AffairsRe: Equatorial Guinea Sex Scandal: Woman Allegedly Commits Suicide On Seeing Videos by saddler: 6:55am On Nov 05, 2024
SmartPolician:
I see guys hailing the man on Nairaland and I wonder:

Parents are steadily raising male lunatics!

What happened to proper upbringing in this part of the world?

Yes, it's okay for a man to go about sleeping with every other man's wife and getting hailed as the real MVP.

But if a lady does the same, she is bullied, insulted and called unprintable names. It becomes worse when she's outspoken and proud of her lifestyle.

Values are steadily eroding in this part of the world and it is quite worrisome that these animals head their homes and sensitive government institutions in this country. And we still wonder why our country is in a big mess of unparalleled proportions
Women and men are unique and their uniqueness also determines the responsibility expected of them.

Bigger responsibility is placed on Women when it comes to sex because of feminity.

Likewise bigger responsibility is placed on men when it comes to being successful financially than women.

That's it.
Foreign AffairsRe: Equatorial Guinea Sex Scandal: Woman Allegedly Commits Suicide On Seeing Videos by saddler:
Why will.she do that?


Sex is a natural thing and regardless of the moral boundary our culture and society has placed around it, its not enough to kill yourself
CrimeRe: ₦‎4.4 Billion Cocaine Seized At Lagos Airport By NDLEA by saddler: 6:36pm On Nov 03, 2024
lipsrsealed

We know those behind it even if they didn't mention names. grin
CrimeRe: Gunmen Kill Man, Two Sons In Ebonyi by saddler: 11:56am On Nov 03, 2024
Igbo people will not sit down and discuss the atrocities being committed by terrorists ipob.

But would be insulting other tribes. grin grin

Tomorrow is Monday, they already getting ready to sit at home.
CrimeRe: Cultists Kill Three Brothers From Same Family In Awka by saddler: 5:51pm On Nov 02, 2024
sad
RomanceRe: Man Takes Back Business He Set Up For His Girlfriend After She Cheated (Photos) by saddler: 3:44pm On Nov 02, 2024
Correct guy
Foreign AffairsRe: Taliban Bans Women From ‘Hearing Other Women’s Voices' by saddler: 2:14pm On Oct 31, 2024
grin

These people and their laws against women

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