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Christianity EtcRe: Science And Faith Can They Coexist? by SadEast419(op): 1:49pm On Feb 12, 2025
Judas1X:
Are you using ChatGPT?

Jaephoenix, hopefulLandlord and kingxsamz, I'm seeing the ugly ghost of a disgraced apologist here!
No, I'm just trying to compare people POV. I don not agree neither do I disagree.
CelebritiesRe: VeryDarkMan Accuses Nedu Wazobia Of Being A Sexual Predator (Video) by SadEast419(m): 9:23am On Feb 12, 2025
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Christianity EtcRe: Science And Faith Can They Coexist? by SadEast419(op):
[quote author=Kobojunkie post=134107105]1. Not assuming. Religion is typically established through the words—opinions of individuals — of men, words that are for the most part personal as you previously pointed out. undecided

2. And many of those same religious scholars have come up with, for the most part, deeply contradictory ideas to describe many of the same entities. undecided

3. But religion is itself founded on those very misunderstandings and misinterpretations — the flaws you refer to. undecided[/quot

That's a thought-provoking perspective. It's true that religious texts and interpretations are often subjective and influenced by human biases. The contradictions and variations in religious thought can be attributed to these human limitations.

However, some might argue that the value of religion lies not in its literal or historical accuracy, but in its symbolic, spiritual, and cultural significance. Many people find meaning, comfort, and guidance in religious teachings, despite (or even because of) their imperfections.

What are your thoughts on the role of faith and spirituality in the face of these complexities?
Christianity EtcRe: Science And Faith Can They Coexist? by SadEast419(op): 9:14am On Feb 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is exactly what FAITH is!

Winners don't quit and quiters don't win FAITH is not blind you have to study your environment and people around you before you start working towards something.
You said the Wright Brothers studied physics, tested designs and refined their work all these amounts to never quitting.
Now read what the Bible says about faith in God and let's see if it's the same:

My son, if you accept my sayings And treasure up my commandments, By making your ear attentive to wisdom And inclining your heart to discernment; Moreover, if you call out for understanding And raise your voice for discernment; If you keep seeking for it as for silver, And you keep searching for it as for hidden treasures; Then you will understand the fear of Jehovah, And you will find the knowledge of God. Proverbs 2:1-5

The aim of the believer is to find the knowledge of God or let's say figure out if God truly exists.
The first step is reading God's laws, then studying how it applies to humans around you, then ask questions to know what the laws is achieving within faithful adherents, you mustn't give up (keep seeking for it as sliver and searching for it as for hidden treasures) then you will see with your mind's eyes that truly God exists.

The problem with most people is lack of faith in what they're pursuing so they give up half way then start looking for who to blame.

The Wright Brothers never did that but keep on working towards their dreams as they put everything they could lay their hands on to good use.

That is real FAITH! smiley
I like your point that real faith involves effort and study, not just passive belief. Maybe science and faith both require a kind of trust—science in what can be tested and faith in things beyond human understanding.
You said faith requires studying and questioning, but many religious traditions discourage questioning too much. Some religious authorities have historically opposed scientific discoveries—like heliocentrism or evolution. Should faith always encourage questioning, or are there limits?
Christianity EtcRe: Science And Faith Can They Coexist? by SadEast419(op): 9:07am On Feb 12, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Yes, they reject any thing which destroys their upsets their standing in atheism whether reasonable or scientific.

Making contributions to human knowledge has nothing to do with being a Christian or an atheist exactly how being a Nigerian or a Russian has nothing to do with making a contribution to humanity.

Thus, does your understanding of what faith is and science co exist? Yes they already do, for it is by faith and believe that you used to enter a plane (science) to fly from Lagos to Toronto the first time for you have never flown before and if you look out the window of the plane, you would not see the "road" to Toronto. But you just believed that the driver, whom by the way you do not even know, will go through that blue or grey sky of nothingness to take you to a place you have never been to before.

That is clearly an example of faith and science working together.
I see your point about faith in science, but isn’t there a difference between faith in a proven system (like aviation) and religious faith? When people board a plane, they trust science based on years of engineering and data. Religious faith, on the other hand, often requires belief without tangible proof. Do you think these are really the same kind of faith?
If faith and science always work together, why have religious institutions sometimes opposed scientific discoveries? For example, heliocentrism and evolution were once rejected by many religious groups. Do you think faith should adapt when science presents new evidence?
CelebritiesRe: Portable Publicly Criticized His Father For Making Police To Declare Him Wanted by SadEast419(m): 8:59am On Feb 12, 2025
Unserious man😡It kills me whenever people call him a celebrity
Christianity EtcRe: Science And Faith Can They Coexist? by SadEast419(op): 11:43pm On Feb 11, 2025
Kobojunkie:
I don't believe science and religion can rationally coexist mainly because religion is built on a foundation of contradictions. How can an arm of human knowledge that builds on facts be said to be complementary to ideas that build on falsehoods/contradictions? How or where does this complementary connection begin or end? undecided
Are you assuming that all religious beliefs are built on contradictions? Many religious scholars throughout history have engaged deeply with philosophy and reason. Could it be that some contradictions come from misunderstandings or misinterpretations rather than flaws in religion itself?
Christianity EtcRe: Science And Faith Can They Coexist? by SadEast419(op): 11:38pm On Feb 11, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Nope.

I am saying any reasonable and right thinking person can see that whatever is called science has it's due place and whatever is called religion has it's purposes.

But like atheists Lucifyre has come to show most people are not right thinking and being reasonable is a task too difficult for them.
Do you think atheists reject reason, or do they just prioritize scientific explanations over faith-based ones? Some of history’s greatest thinkers—Einstein, Darwin, Hawking—were either agnostic or atheist, yet they made major contributions to human knowledge. They are less driven by faith. All I need to know if faith and science can coexist.
Christianity EtcRe: Science And Faith Can They Coexist? by SadEast419(op): 11:32pm On Feb 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Highlighted is a wrong definition!

Nothing exists to humans until they are able to provide step to step process how it happened so as long as they don't know they will turn a blind eye on it.
But when they know how to go about it they will call it SCIENCE. Whereas it takes great faith to figure many things we are using today because if you ask people few centuries ago they will tell you it's impossible yet we are using these things today!
I get your point, but isn't there a difference between faith and educated guesswork? The Wright brothers didn't just randomly believe they could fly—they studied physics, tested designs, and refined their work based on observations. Science isn't about blind faith; it's about trial, error, and evidence. Would you still call that faith, or is it just determination and knowledge?
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Christianity EtcRe: Science And Faith Can They Coexist? by SadEast419(op): 6:39pm On Feb 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
No science without faith and no faith without science both compliments each other only lawless and rebellious humans wants to separate the two!

Faith has been defined as the assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities that are not seen. Hebrews 11:1

So you can't call something "FAITH" if you refuse to WORK towards it {James 2:18-26} and it's the process by which you achieve it that is called SCIENCE.

Take for insurance the Wright Brothers who invented the aeroplane, have they seen a flying vessel carrying passengers before?
NO!
So what made them believe that this is possible?
"FAITH"
That's why they began WORKING towards its success but today ask an atheist how the aeroplane came about he will start talking about the step by step process the inventor followed instead of inventing another thing to prove that there is no FAITH backing SCIENCE! smiley
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Interesting point, but if faith is needed for science, then why do many scientific discoveries contradict religious beliefs? For example, many religious traditions rejected evolution and heliocentrism at first. If faith and science always work together, why do they sometimes clash? P.S faith is believing in something that seems not to exist. Something you can't see
Christianity EtcRe: Science And Faith Can They Coexist? by SadEast419(op): 6:34pm On Feb 11, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
Is like asking if Garri and Semo can co exist.

Clearly, it depends on the user or users
Hmmm so you're saying someone who strongly believe in religion tends to find science as a lie?
Christianity EtcRe: Science And Faith Can They Coexist? by SadEast419(op): 6:33pm On Feb 11, 2025
You’re making some strong distinctions here, and I see where you're coming from. Science, in its purest form, is about acquiring knowledge, while faith—depending on how one defines it—can be seen as applying or interpreting that knowledge within a personal or spiritual framework.

Your point about proof and evidence being legal concepts rather than purely scientific ones is interesting. Science doesn’t "prove" things in an absolute sense but builds models based on observation, experimentation, and repeatability. Atheists who demand "proof" of God might be thinking in legal or mathematical terms rather than scientific ones, which is an interesting philosophical misalignment.

And belief—yes, it’s personal and can change based on perception, which is why it isn’t necessarily a measure of truth. Truth, in a scientific sense, is about what is consistently observable and testable, while in a philosophical or theological sense, it might be about ultimate reality beyond human perception.

So where do you stand? Do you think science and faith should be completely separate, or do they have a meaningful intersection? I love it when I encounter high intelligent people.
RomanceRe: Religion Is Demonic & Evil & Should Never Be Practiced! by SadEast419(m): 2:39pm On Feb 11, 2025
Religion is a scam. Christians manipulate while Muslim make use of Force. We need to wake up in Africa.
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Christianity EtcRe: Science And Faith Can They Coexist? by SadEast419(op): 2:35pm On Feb 11, 2025
Let's know you POV
No harsh word please cool
Christianity EtcScience And Faith Can They Coexist? by SadEast419(op): 2:35pm On Feb 11, 2025
Science and faith have often been seen as opposing forces, but many argue they can coexist. Science relies on empirical evidence and testable theories, while faith is based on belief and spirituality.

Some people see them as complementary—science explains the how of the universe, while faith addresses the why. For example, someone can believe in evolution while also believing that a higher power set everything in motion. Others argue that faith can inspire scientific inquiry, as many historical scientists were deeply religious.

On the flip side, some say science and faith are fundamentally incompatible because science demands proof, while faith requires belief without evidence. What do you think? Can they work together, or are they at odds? Can science and faith coexist?
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Good for him embarassed
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Gandollar:
Gag Opposition.

Throw them into the lagoon if they won't keep quiet.

Lagos template on full throttle in Abuja.
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Christianity EtcRe: See 21 Arab Christians Praising Christ Before They Were Beheaded By Muslims by SadEast419(m): 2:27pm On Feb 11, 2025
Nawa o. People still die because of religion in 2025? Smh kiss kiss kiss
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Blablabla tongue
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Wow grin
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CyrusVI:
cheesy

There are many ways to make it through Crypto but Nigerians wanna to become overnight billionaires by just tapping cheesy

Thats against the rule of Life. You wanna overtake businessmen of 10,20years by just tapping your screen. No be even by Spot and Future trading o

You will die without fulfilling your wish


The IQ of an average Nigerian is 77, they arent that bright

My dying wish is to rule this country one day, I go too use una head cheesy
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Very useless she male😠 VDM should deal with him
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Most of them don't know how to read and write😊😂
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Religion is a scam 😡

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