MaxInDHouse:
Where are the churches of the saints that have this so called PEACE?
I only know jehovah's witnesses!

adeniyi65:

It's clear already. God is less consign about whatever we make of ourselves no matter how terrific it is. My opinion now. Man should learn to reason and solve their problems which they created themselves because God doesn't care

johnw47:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

MaxInDHouse:


Respect for who or what you know nothing about?

You guys often feel Christians are deluded as you continue to deceive yourselves with false reasoning.
Instead of finding out who are Christians?
What assignment were they given?
What should be the result of their work?

Due to laziness you just conclude that any religion claiming Christian are Christians.

Ọmọ when a Christian calls someone "LORD" it means the one referred to as Lord has authority over a multitude of witnesses who are doing the work he assigned to them not that you just wake up and start comparing dead deities to the living God whose witnesses are actively and zealously doing the work He gave them!

MaxInDHouse:
The last time you said:
I smiled because i know that with the little you've heard from me your heart has been touched.
Now you're saying:
The enemies of truth thinks it's by lying and saying all sorts of evil things against God's organization everyone will turn a deaf ear to jehovah's witnesses but they forgot that in the first century Jesus and his disciples met the same type of fierced opposition yet those who will listen surely did.

MaxInDHouse: So let them continue lying and saying whatever they feel we are not bothered and just as you've rightly said only jehovah's witnesses are winning the souls because none of the churches of Christendom can present their members who are preaching zealously and industriously teaching in their neighborhood as real disciples of Christ except jehovah's witnesses! John 15:5-8

MaxInDHouse: May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the sweet fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you! 2Corinthians 13:14
Continue paying attention to both sides with open-mindedness you will know the truth and the truth will set you free from falsehood! John 8:32

Kingsempires:
I don't have much to say, I don't want the one someone will start attacking me

Kingsempires:
I won't quote maxinhouse again anything he like let him do let me respect myself.

Kingsempires:

I regret criticizing JWs before, they don't preach the gospel but na them they win soul pass. I don't have much to say but the funny issue there is that you people criticizing the JWs small time now are the same people will start debating themselves.

MaxInDHouse:


It's only the truth that can SATISFY a multitude {John 17:17} and make them ONE {John 17:22} as for falsehood it's in confusion they will find themselves! 1Corinthians 14:33

I told you that whoever thinks JWs don't have the truth should think twice.

Jesus gave his disciples a THEME to preach and it's "God's Kingdom" {Matthew 10:7} the different religions claiming Christians today don't know this so they have formed teachers for themselves to teach them what they want to hear {2Timothy 4:3-4} that's why they can't come up with one line of thought as each one has what personally interests him or her so their personal interest is the driving force behind their moves therefore what pastor A term as GOSPEL doesn't tally with that of pastor B then their followers begin arguing among themselves.

That's why they get involved in politics and racism which often leads them to hating and killing their fellow worshipers {Revelations 6:3-4} as they don't understand that the main issue is what Jesus told his disciples to preach about: God's Kingdom in today's simple English God's Government

• Under God's Government there is nothing like tribal conflict that's why jehovah's witnesses can't be divided by racism.

• Under God's Government there is no selfish ambition so worldly politicians can't divide jehovah's witnesses.

•Under God's Government there is no rich no poor because we will have all things equally so jehovah's witnesses can't be divided by riches .

Those are the three major factors that's causing division among humans but among jehovah's witnesses our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus had buried them completely so it can't have any negative influence on God's Holy people!

Kingsempires:

jehovah witnesses don't preach the gospel. The fact that the trinitarian don't have the same though of the trinity and we the trinitarian always argue over bible verse. criticizing the Jws when small time an unnecessary argument who just bust out within the trinitarian look at what a protestant post on nairaland but still look at what his fellow protestant said on the thread below so what is the point talking about people that all agree on each other look at All the JWs on nairaland to know whether they use to argue with themselves over bible verses. I regret criticizing JWs before, they don't preach the gospel but na them they win soul pass. I don't have much to say but the funny issue there is that you people criticizing the JWs small time now are the same people will start debating themselves.
https://www.nairaland.com/8200687/why-private-jet-necessary-general.

Emusan:
This part you're dodging won't be left out just like that.

You made this claim:

This is what 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 says "because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we shall always be with [the] Lord." - NWT

Is this what actually happened in 1914?




The fact from the scripture is that, Jesus already a KING long before 1914!

Provide the scripture where Jesus was said to be ENTHRONED in 1914.

since the kings of the world back then were killing his disciples.
Of course he can't be kings over those who are killing his disciples nah!

Because the scriptures say he rules over those under his domain

For, at the close of the Gentile Times in 1914 C.E., jehovah God enthroned in the heavens the “Lion that is of the tribe of Judah” and commanded him: “Go subduing in the midst of your enemies.” (Revelation 5:5; Genesis 49:9, 10; Psalm 110:1, 2) ... They should think on the scepter wielded by God’s Messianic King, to whom jehovah said, in 1914 C.E.: “The rod of your strength jehovah will send out of [the heavenly] Zion, saying: ‘Go subduing in the midst of your enemies.’”

MaxInDHouse:


I am not disputing what Jesus said here but the meaning is what i think you don't get because if Jesus is the King of kings and you think he became the King of kings right after his resurrection then it shouldn't be difficult for you to explain who are this kings that Jesus was ruling over them since the kings of the world back then were killing his disciples.
Of course he can't be kings over those who are killing his disciples nah!

Because the scriptures say he rules over those under his domain!

I am not disputing what Jesus said here but the meaning is what i think you don't get

because if Jesus is the King of kings and you think he became the King of kings right after his resurrection then it shouldn't be difficult for you to explain

who are this kings that Jesus was ruling over them

Those people or as it were kings that say they are kings and have a kingdom. His kingdom is not of this world so he said to Pilate.

[quote]since the kings of the world back then were killing his disciples

Of course he can't be kings over those who are killing his disciples nah!

Because the scriptures say he rules over those under his domain!

Unification in Spite of False Predictions (‎2 occurrences)
For, at the close of the Gentile Times in 1914 C.E., jehovah God enthroned in the heavens the “Lion that is of the tribe of Judah” and commanded him: “Go subduing in the midst of your enemies.” (Revelation 5:5; Genesis 49:9, 10; Psalm 110:1, 2) ... They should think on the scepter wielded by God’s Messianic King, to whom jehovah said, in 1914 C.E.: “The rod of your strength jehovah will send out of [the heavenly] Zion, saying: ‘Go subduing in the midst of your enemies.’” (Psalm 110:1, 2)

descarado:
Child rapists cut across religions, denominations, tribes and countries.
Rest.

Courz:


Which makes jehovah's witnesses no different from other religions. They are nothing special. Same Shit different cult. All Cults have Child Sexual abuse because they are from one source.

That is the evidence of IBERIBEISM embedded inside Courz head.

Which other religious groups from Christendom to Buddhism or Bahai, Islam or New Age religious groups has Courz opened any thread to spew hate and prejudice against?

Courzd religionist super glued to IBERIBEISM.

The screenshot says it all....... JW's live inside his head rent free 24/7 & Courz is NEVER happy about that.

Waazagha !!

achorladey:
The beginning of the letter.....



Dear Elders,

We are making this public statement because certain circumstances among jehovah's witnesses have become unacceptable to us. Even if our family has fortunately not yet been affected by it, child abuse is more than just "serious wrongdoing" or a "spiritual sickness". It cannot simply be repented of and "handled" by talking to elders who have no psychological training whatsoever. Pedophilia is a serious mental disorder. The main issue is not whether the perpetrator can be forgiven or not, but whether further cases can be prevented. It is unacceptable for the protection of offenders to take precedence over the protection of victims and for the "privacy" of a potential offender to outweigh the welfare of children. In such cases, elders must not be "primarily concerned with maintaining the sanctity of God’s name", as if HE could not do that Himself. Instead, they should attend to their duties for the good of the flock (1 Pe. 5:2, 1 Tim. 6:20). "The responsibility to protect children from harm" cannot simply be shifted to "the parents" alone (for quotes see w19 May, pp. 8-13).

It is common knowledge that child abuse hardly ever happens in the presence of other witnesses, and it is also obvious that the biblical two-witness rule was never intended for such cases. Nevertheless, it is still used today as an explanation as to why elders do not pass on the names of perpetrators to the authorities or make them known in the congregation. There are indeed biblical principles that come much closer to the facts of the case and do not require two witnesses (Deut. 22:23-27, Ex. 21:29).

The cases of abuse in churches are extensively denounced in our publications. However, not a word is said about the cases in our own ranks. In contrast to the churches, jehovah's witnesses have not commissioned any independent studies to investigate the cases. While the Pope has publicly apologized for the suffering caused, nothing of the sort has happened on the part of the governing body. The fines totaling millions have been concealed from the members.

In 2015, it became known that the Australian branch of jehovah's witnesses had records of alleged perpetrators of child sexual abuse. This information became part of a major government commission of enquiry. The findings of the Australian Royal Commission (ARC) are staggering:

At least 1,800 victims, 1,006 perpetrators and 579 confessions. 28 people were appointed as elders or ministerial assistants despite the allegations. Nevertheless, the commission concluded that NOT A SINGLE CASE was reported to the authorities. Elders were even instructed by the legal department of the branch office to destroy records that could have been used as evidence. The final report sharply criticized the lack of transparency and the existing structures at jehovah's witnesses. (Royal Commission: "Case Study 29: jehovah's witnesses". See under "Submission" the document "Submissions on behalf of Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Australia", pp. 20-22, sections 2.1 and 2.2)

However, the Governing Body subsequently refused to publicly apologize to the victims and to pay into the Australian National Redress Scheme for victims of abuse. While over 500 organizations had already contributed to this fund, six were publicly reprimanded by the Australian government for refusing to do so, including jehovah's witnesses. It was only when the government threatened to withdraw their charitable status that the organization relented.

But although even Geoffrey Jackson of the Governing Body testified under oath before the Commission and the videos of this were made available to everyone by the authorities, the Governing Body does not say a word about this in its monthly broadcasts, so that hardly any jehovah's witnesses are likely to be aware of these abuses. Instead, JW Broadcasting prefers to report on bushfires under the keyword "Australia". After the scandal became public, the Watchtower immediately called on the faithful: "Loyally support the leadership (...) when faced with what appear to be damaging attacks by apostates or other such deceivers of the mind​ - however plausible their charges may seem. " (w17 July, p. 30). The charges are indeed very serious. However, the judges of the Royal Commission are certainly not deceivers. But instead of endeavoring to clarify the situation, the legal department prefers to sue victims' associations, as recently happened in Spain (AEVTJ, Madrid).

MaxInDHouse:


Why do you think i should waste my precious time with you?
If you truly wants to talk about churches start another thread or change the topic of this one and mention the name of your church so that everyone can compare what your church teaches with that of jehovah's witnesses and the benefits there off.

Jesus said:

"By their FRUITS you will know them" Matthew 7:16

So pointing accusing finger at a religion while you keep hiding yours is really funny.

In line with what Jesus Christ commanded his disciples at Matthew 10:16 a neutral person said after considering manner of approach:



Do you want me to also quote what he said about you or you'll do so yourself?

Christianity is not about pointing accusing finger at other religions but presenting what you have to convince your audience that they need to become disciples of Christ Jesus. Act 26:24-28

Thanks for your time!

Ken4Christ:
The gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ is the good news about the resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ from the dead. And how through faith in this resurrection, salvation is available for all mankind.

The scripture says;

Romans 10:9-10
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart THAT GOD HATH RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

This is the gospel preached by the early church. See examples below:

1. Apostle Peter First Preaching After the Holy Ghost Baptism.

Acts 2:29-32
29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. note

30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

32 THIS JESUS HATH GOD RAISED UP, whereof we all are witnesses.

Notice, verse 33. The emphasis is on the resurrection of Christ from the dead.

2. Apostle Peter’s Message to the House of Cornelius

Acts 10:38-41
38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:

40 HIM GOD RAISED UP THE THIRD DAY, and shewed him openly;

41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him AFTER HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD.

3. Philip the Evangelist

Acts 8:5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them.

What did Philip preach? He preached Christ.

4. Apostle Paul After His Conversion

Acts 9:18-20
18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.

19 And when he had received meat, he was strengthened. Then was Saul certain days with the disciples which were at Damascus.

20 And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.

What did Paul preach? He preached Christ.

What did he preach about Christ?

Acts 17:2-3
2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,

3 Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, AND RISEN AGAIN FROM THE DEAD; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ.

I could go on and on with more evidence.

But jehovah Witness don't preach Christ. Rather, they oppose the message of the gospel. Three things they teach that opposes the message of Christ are;

1. That Jesus didn't rise from the dead bodily. This is false teaching. It's contrary to what the scripture teaches. Jesus rose from the dead bodily. They saw him, they touched him and he ate with them. He even told Thomas, "I am not a spirit. I have flesh and bones" - Luke 24:39.

2. They teach salvation is by works. But the scripture teaches that we are saved by grace:

Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast.

3. They teach that hell as a place of torment for lost souls doesn't exist. But Jesus taught us that such place exist.

The story of the rich man and Lazarus is one of many examples. Luke 16:19-31.

They debunk this calling it a parable. It's madness for our Lord Jesus to use what is not real to make a parable. But it's not a parable. In parable, you don’t mention actual names or characters.

Please, if you are a member of jehovah Witness, leave that anti Christ organisation and embrace Christ.

If you are not a member, please, don't ever contemplate to become one. It's a sure way to hell.

Ken4Christ:

MaxinDHouse is avoiding this thread.

Questionnaires:

MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

Courz:
A man has been convicted of all charges for the sexual abuse of a young child in 1998, when he was a jehovah’s Witness congregation member who utilized his position in JW to befriend the victim’s family.

David Balosa, 62, of Philadelphia, United States was convicted on Monday of two felony counts of aggravated indecent assault and related misdemeanors, following a weeklong trial. Balosa will be sentenced on Jan. 27.

Balosa was arrested last year after the 49th Statewide Investigating Grand Jury recommended sexual assault-related charges against more than a dozen members of the jehovah’s witnesses faith who used the religion as a means to get close to victims and sexually abuse them.

MaxInDHouse:


I always ignore him but sometimes it's good to keep a record of some comments and responses for future references it will go a long way to help honest hearted and sincere individuals who are reading what we are typing today.

Do you still remember this guy?



Even though he came to that thread to criticize jehovah's witnesses i made him see what really matters and he himself confessed with his own mouth that "achorladey just dey yarn off point"

So i know when to put him right where he belongs and when to allow him dance around without responding to his self deception!

descarado:
Child rapists cut across religions, denominations, tribes and countries.
Rest.

RollinTNDA:
No Difference Between Hamas and Chosen.

The good thing is that they haven't started wearing suicide vest and attacking people that don't attend Chosen

Which church did Jesus go to??
Did Jesus attend Chosen??

The truth is that majority of humans are STUPID. This is a solid truth.

What you should be doing is to find a way and gather those stupid people and make them carry out your doings to your advantage.

Stupidity is very powerful
And people overlook it.
But the rulers and Leaders of the world understand Human Stupidity.
They study it and use it to their advantage.

What Pastor Lazarus is doing is not new

There are MEN out there who control groups of stupid humans.
Do you know the power of being able to command group of stupid people to follow your doctrine. It makes you feel like God

There are many Cult-like fellowships out there
Infact there are millions of Religious Cults parading as ministries.
As long as we have Stupid Human Beings, there must be MEN like pst. Lazarus and co

You have jehovah witnesses too
If I want to start my own ministry today
All I need is to gather groups of Stupid People
And they will fight for me and die for me

So I urge you all Men of Wisdom
Study human stupidity and find a way to benefit from it.
Don't underestimate stupid people!!!
Find a way to use them to your own advantage

Just like these MEN are using these Stupid humans to build congregation and make money.
Stupid humans are very important and useful
If you understand how to control them

MaxInDHouse:


I always ignore him but sometimes it's good to keep a record of some comments and responses for future references it will go a long way to help honest hearted and sincere individuals who are reading what we are typing today.

Do you still remember this guy?



Even though he came to that thread to criticize jehovah's witnesses i made him see what really matters and he himself confessed with his own mouth that "achorladey just dey yarn off point"

So i know when to put him right where he belongs and when to allow him dance around without responding to his self deception!

I always ignore him but sometimes it's good to keep a record of some comments and responses for future references

It will go a long way to help honest hearted and sincere individuals who are reading what we are typing today.

Do you still remember this guy?

Even though he came to that thread to criticize jehovah's witnesses i made him see what really matters and he himself confessed with his own mouth that [b]"achorladey just dey yarn off point

So i know when to put him right where he belongs and when to allow him dance around without responding to his self deception!

Aemmyjah:

Sir
It's best you ignore him
Don't even bother reading anything from him
Once I see his name, I scroll up without reading his nonsense
He craves your attention more than a child craves milk
A sane person will never win an argument with a lunatic cos they want back down whether right or wrong
I wish Janosky too will do same
Let him find his own purpose with others

CJStarz:

Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point