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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 11:19pm On Jun 13
raumdeuter:


You know the problem with these speeches and why they fail to move me is that all these people always learn how to speak once they lose power but when in power all they claimed they can do will be forgotten.

Your most hated politician today when he lose power, he too will become an activist and start preaching, your most loved politician when he gets there and see the reality of governance he too will start sounding like a demon

Most of these politicians turned speakers, what did they do when they were there? Some of them with good intentions some with not good intentions what did they do or achieve in power?

The issue we don't want to accept is that there is no solution, when too many people are depending on too few resources. The population keeps increasing the resources keeps reducing or stay same

If a family of 30 is depending on one bucket of Garri, there will always be people going hungry and there will be uncles taking more than their fair share in every house(corruption) so to make family members not go hungry, we either increase the quantity of garri or reduce the number of mouths. We either increase productivity and revenue or reduce our population growth. Some will say why cant we grow our productivity and National income at the same rate as population, well its not that easy cos other countries would have been doing the same too. There is a reason places like China placed a ban on number of kids you can have

In the last 30yrs its reported that our population has doubled, I don't know of many countries we look up to where their population has doubled in the last 30yrs. If we continue with that trend things will get worse and there is nothing a Barack Obama as president will do about it. And in summary there is no hope forget the "aspire to Maguire" speech that politicians out of power bore us with

Look at this link below, if you see aby country with a yearly increase of above 2% which you consider a great place to live in or even start from 1.5%
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/
First of all I'm not of that school of thought that Nigeria is too broken beyond repair. One thing is clear, this nation is being held hostage by a strong cabal who are profiting from the rot in the system and will do anything to make sure they always put their men in charge to protect their interests no matter the cost. The day Nigerians break free from these people is the day this country will begin to see restoration, it's a matter of time.

Very importantly your submission clearly shows you never believed in Tinubu, nor his ability or capacity to do anything meaningful as president. You knew the challenges of the nation where beyond him but it didn't matter to you.

The issue raised In your fifth paragraph, Peter Obi kept hammering on the urgent need to move
from Consumption to Production with a clear plan to implement and execute across all sectors expecially the Agric sector. Clear workable plans to salvage food insecurity. What we're seeing today is a clear case of no plan at all. The plan you don't have, you can't execute.

Population growth isn't new, we're not the first nation to experience population explosion and we won't be the last. It is the lack of proper planning that make these projections appear grim.

Sen Sani whether in power or not has told Tinubu the hard truth, what he must do as the father of protests and why he must not fail. Tinubu better sit up and pray to all the gods he's worshipping for ideas cos buhari as docile and he was, was never this bad for 8yrs. He said nobody should pity him, so no excuses for him and his Renewed Hope agenda.

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Politics / Re: Edo 2024: Shaibu Donates Campaign Office, Vehicles, Structure To APC, Okpebholo by senatordave1(m): 3:15pm On Jun 13
AskNgige2:

But same hope made ararume to lose our nnpc chairman board position buhari gave him ... Hope and ararume are not good now

Sorry I thought you meant Ihedioha
Politics / Re: Edo 2024: Shaibu Donates Campaign Office, Vehicles, Structure To APC, Okpebholo by AskNgige2: 3:14pm On Jun 13
senatordave1:


True but when interests align,enmity is suspended..
Araraume and hope aren't enemies.they have a secret pact self
But same hope made ararume to lose our nnpc chairman board position buhari gave him ... Hope and ararume are not good now
Politics / A Thread On The Memories Of The June - 12 Struggle by Racoon(m): 11:20am On Jun 12
MKO Abiola Campaign Songs/Jingles;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j6vVSZ7wiE?si=T-59nfKdBltru_8e

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpjAVFa_F5g?si=YJYjNmvgQWhrekpW

Annulment of the June 12 1993 Election


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW38rfBiPv8?si=7C_YjqeoUdLnKnbL
MKO Abiola Rejected The Annulment of the 1993 Presidential Election

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjSNoLSnvvg?si=qwx_Ae7A-mWr9VPq

MKO Abiola Historic Epketedo Declearation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzyvnVjwWlM?si=JXLhdCJKgaessght

MKO Abiola Arrested By the Abacha Military Government:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQIBwp_OONw?si=4AAKMBv48xNdjVwC

Death and Burial of Late Chief MKO Abiola

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I0wZyVUK10?si=u07IC0-iGwW_xrtS

Heroes and Villains of The June 12 1993 Struggle:
Heroes of the struggle
-1). Chief Abraham Adesanya
was among some of the few Nigerian pro-democracy campaigners who did not flee the country in spite of the personal danger to their lives. As deputy leader of NADECO, he stayed at home and fought against both Gen. Ibrahim Babangida and Gen. Sani Abacha on the annulment of June 12 even after his NADECO leader, Chief Anthony Enahoro, had been hounded abroad.


He was uncompromising and became a thorn to the maximum dictators. A man of progressive political inclination, he had been active from the days of Action Group in the late 1950s and remained so until his death. He narrowly escaped death in the hands of Abacha’s death squad, which shot at him and his driver. He lived to a ripe, old age. He died at 85.

-2). Prof. Omo Omoruyi who was Director-General, Centre for Democratic Studies (CDS), had the fortune to be friends to both Abiola and Babangida and often acted as go-between for the two. In fact, it was from him that Abiola got the encouragement to run for president when he wasn’t so sure if Babangida was really serious about relinquishing power or wanted to transform into a democratic president.

Omoruyi actually fell out with Babangida for not honouring his word on June 12 and making Abiola president. It soured their relationship for a long time; he was privy to some of the internal wrangling within the military and among the northern establishment about power shift from the north to the south and the consequent denial that Abiola suffered. Omoruyi is believed to have developed the innovative Option A-4 adopted and Open Ballot system for the conduct of June 12 election, as CDS boss, but he is hardly credited for it.

-3). Frank Ovie Kokori as secretary of the powerful oil workers’ union, Nigerian Union of Petroleum and Natural Gas (NUPENG), took on the military establishment and held it in the jugular. The union called out strikes that paralysed the country and put the military on edge. Kokori would later be imprisoned for long months for his activism. But he was undaunted about his personal travails as he forged on for the actualization of June 12.

-4). Chief Gani Fawehimni did not suffer violent death like Kudirat and Rewane, but his death, which came much later, was diagnosed to be as a result of his long and intermittent incarcerations as a result of agitating for June 12 and the enthronement of democratic ideals in the country.

A legal luminary and well-respected writer, and publisher, Fawehimni was first among equals both in the legal profession where he excelled and democratic activism when he gave Babangida and Abacha hard times to restore the rights of Nigerians and to respect their democratic wishes freely expressed through balloting.

As many times he was in and out of prisons, so also was he in and out of the courts seeking one form of justice or the other for Nigerians whose rights had been breached by the state. Fawehimni was an icon of the struggle for the enthronement of democratic practice in the country and for which his consistent imprisonment would take a heavy toll on his health years later. He died on September 5, 2009.

-5). Prof. Humphrey Nwosu was the National Electoral Commission (NEC) who conducted the watershed June 12 election. He took over from Prof. Eme Awa when the commission was still called Federal Electoral Commission (FEDECO) before it was renamed NEC. Nwosu resisted the courts in their flip-flop attempts to scuttle the exercise and courageously went ahead to conduct the election and had started reading out results before his boss, Babangida, ordered him to stop further announcements and consequently annulled the election.

But when he wrote a book, Laying the foundation for Nigeria’s democracy: my account of June 12, 1993 presidential election and its annulment, some 15 years later about what transpired on June 12, he absorbed Babangida of blame and generally failed to say exactly what really happened. Of course, his book was dismissed as obtuse and failing to give accurate account of June 12 annulment from his vintage point as the electoral umpire.

Others:
The history of the struggle for June 12 to be made real while the winner of the historic election was alive had a robust assemblage of agitators. They played one role or the other both for the reversal of the annulment and subsequently the eventual enthronement of democracy. Rear Admiral Ndubuisi Kanu (rtd), Chief Ayo Adebanjo, Chief Ayo Opadokun, and former Lagos State governor, Bola Ahmed Tinubu were of the NADECO league, who campaigned vigorously for the realization of June 12. Tinubu was among those who had to go on exile for fear of being killed by Abacha’s rampaging death squad.


Nobel laureate Prof. Wole Soyinka also disguised and went on exile. One time local branch president of Academic Staff Union of Universities (ASUU), Prof. Festus Iyayi, lawyer, writer, and activist, Dr. Ogaga Ifowodo, Campaign for Democracy (CD) activist, Chima Ubani, writer and guerilla journalist, Mr. Odia Ofeimun, journalist and jailed for his work for democracy, Mr. Kunle Ajibade, lawyer, writer, and NADECO chieftain, Fred Agbeyegbe, medical doctor, activist, and Civil Liberties Organisation chieftain, Dr. Beko Ransome-Kuti, lawyer and activist, Chief Olisa Agbakoba, activist, Ayo Obe, Chief Adekunle Ajasin, Col. Tanko Umar, former governor of Kaduna State, Balarabe Musa, Lt.-Gen. Alani Akinrinade, two-time governor of Ekiti State, Dr. Kayode John Fayemi, former presidential candidate of Action for Democracy (AD) and chairman of Social Democratic Party (SDP), Chief Olu Falaye, and former president of Nigerian Labour Congress (NLC), Paschal Bafyau.

These actors were unarguably the men and women who kept the popular imagination alive about the June 12 saga, both during the heady days of the infamous annulment and long after when democracy had been restored.

They have always insisted that Nigeria be returned to true federalism on which the country got her independence from Britain before military incursion into politics truncated the aspirations of the people for a truly popular democracy, not the sort unitarist stype instituted by the military as currently being practised, but genuine democracy that emanates from the people’s will on how they wish to be governed.


Martyrs of June 12
Alhaja Kudirat Abiola
as Abiola’s first wife became a martyr of the June 12 struggle. She was assassinated on June 4, 1996 on the streets of Lagos at Oregun. She was relentless both for the campaign for the release of her husband from prison and the actualization of June 12. But Abacha and his military goons could not stomach her activism.


She became a thorn in their flesh as she espoused the ideal of democratic values and stood solidly behind her husband and the Nigerian people who voted for him. She was to pay the supreme price as she fell to the bullets of Abacha’s killers. The story of the struggle for June 12 cannot be written without her active, frontline role in it. Kudirat unarguably the heroine of June 12.

Chief Alfred Rewane’s progressive politics as financier of democratic ideals came to an abrupt end on October 6, 1996 when he was murdered in his Ikeja, Lagos residence. He was chief financier of NADECO and pro-democracy meetings were regularly held in his house. His long-standing relationship with Chief Obafemi Awolowo established him in the direction of progressive politics even as he was a known businessman and industrialist. But it was in his politics and activism for the realization of June 12 that he would lose his life in gruesome manner.

ALSO, the unions, civil society organization and groups played defining roles for the popular agitation. In fact, without the unions the struggle would not have had so much momentum; it would have fizzled out if left alone to career politicians some of who, like Abiola’s running mate, Alhaji Babagana Kingibe, immediately switched camps and joined the unpopular government of Abacha in clear disregard of the mandate freely given to him and Abiola by the Nigerian people.

The Nigerian Bar Association (NBA), Nigerian Union of Journalists (NUJ), Petroleum and Natural Gas Senior Staff Association of Nigeria (PENGASSAN), Academic Staff Union of Universities (ASUU), led then by Dr. Asisi Asobie, Nigerian Labour Congress (NLC), Campaign for Democracy (CD), Civil Liberties Organization (CLO), and National Democratic Coalition (NADECO) were the arrowhead of the agitation for the realization of June 12.
 
Villains of June 12
Alhaji Bashir Tofa
was the Kano businessman who ran on National Republican Convention (NRC) party as opposition to Chief Moshood Kasimawo Olawale Abiola. But Tofa lost his home city to Abiola who was the accepted candidate of all Nigerians, as his popularity cut across ethnic and religious lines. In spite of calling to congratulate Abiola, he later worked closely with the military. His emergence was even controversial, as he was regarded as an unknown political quantity.


Chief Ebenezer Babatope is one of the Southwest leaders who betrayed the June 12 struggle. While it was rosy, he and others flocked round Abiola. But when Abacha shoved aside Shonekan and upturned the scale, Babatope was among those who legitimised his regime. He served as Minister of Transport and Aviation.

Years later, Babatope still would see no wrong in his actions in betraying a kinsman of having his democratic right enforced. He claimed pro-democracy leaders, particularly of National Democratic Coalition (NADECO) prevailed upon Abiola not to accept Abacha’s planned bail offered him. Babatope, like others of his kind, would later form the kernel of PDP and become the biggest beneficiary of the democratic dispensation they helped Abacha stifle. He is still a member of PDP board of trustees.

Alhaji Lateef Jakande is another enemy of June 12. Like Babatope, he abandoned the struggle for June 12 and joined Abacha’s regime that hounded many into exile, hauled many into prisons and killed many for agitating for the actualization of June 12.

A veteran journalist and former governor of Lagos State from 1979 till 1983 under Unity party of Nigeria (UPN) before Gen. Muhammadu buhari struck in a coup, Jakande had earned a respectable name for himself as a progressive politician and left an indelible mark on the landscape of the state he presided over. But the June 12 saga dented his image, as he pandered to the undemocratic regime of a maximum dictator and served under him.

Brigadier-General Haliru Akilu was Director-General of National Intelligence Agency and Babangida’s shadow. Virtually all the underhand dealings of the Babangida era were attributed to him. He was involved in the plot that thwarted the June 12 election, as he also worked closely with ABN.

Chief Clement Akpamgbo was Attorney-General of the Federation and was instrumental to the annulment. He worked closely with Chief Arthur Nzeribe’s ABN that masterminded the court processes that were to scuttle the election. As Attorney-General, he had his brief to do everything possible for June 12 not to materialize. The courts were his ready playground and he used them to achieve Babangida’s ultimate aim.

Alhaji Babagana Kingibe is perhaps the biggest betrayer of June 12. As chairman of SDP, he was imposed on Abiola as running mate by the SDP governors at the time after he (Abiola) had initially settled for Alhaji Abubakar Atiku. Kingibe initially stood toe-to-toe with Abiola in the struggle for the actualization of June 12. But as the struggle intensified and alliances began to shift, Kingibe would later switch position and join Abacha, his Kanuri kinsman to uncut the struggle and join government as Minister of Internal Affairs. He served actively in the government that would detain Abiola for five years. His betrayal of his principal was total.

Chief Ernest Shonekan, a fellow Yoruba man like Abiola, would infamously agree to serve in the make-shift Interim National Government (ING) put in place by Babangida after he had been forced by unrelenting agitation to restore June 12 but failed to do so. In his haste to leave power, he left behind him a quasi-government that soon crumbled under Abacha, who stepped in and became the maximum dictator for another five years before death would ease him out of Nigeria’s political scene.

Shonekan’s government was weak from start, as it had no moral foundation to exist in the first place. When it fell to Abacha, no one missed it as it was rightly believed to be Babangida’s illegal and face-saving arrangement. Shonekan’s rating would plummet before Nigerians as a man who, like the biblical Esau, sold Nigerian’s democratic rights for a mess of porridge. His failing perhaps was that as an establishment man at United African Company (UAC), he felt it his duty to obey the powers-that-be and accept a role that would taint his sterling record at UAC.

Justice Bassey Ikpeme showed back then that the journey of Nigeria’s judiciary to the path of infamy started a long time ago. She showed herself a willing tool of the government which recruited her to do its bidding and thus set the country on fire. When government failed to use the courts to stop National Electoral Commission (NEC), headed by Prof. Henry Nwosu, to scuttle the election from holding, Ikpeme became the willing tool government used by hiding behind a shadowy Association for Better Nigeria (ABN), led by Chief Franmcis Arthur Nzeribe, to institute an ex parte motion to stop the conduct of the polls. In fact, there was a flurry of court actions at the time across the country – in Abuja, Benin City, Kaduna – to warrant the said confusion in the courts that Babangida would later cite as reason for annulling the election so as to “save the judiciary from ridicule,” he claimed.She ingloriously earned for herself the nickname of ‘Midnight Judge’ as her verdict came at 11pm! Other judges have since followed her path.

Justice Dahiru Saleh was Ikpeme’s right hand man in the judicial gymnastics that characterized the June 12. While Ikpeme’s court failed to get NEC to stop conducting the election, Saleh was waiting for Nwosu’s intransigence. He ruled in his court that the election was conducted in disobedience of a subsisting court order and that further announcement of the results be halted. Babangida merely stepped in to complete his pre-written script.

Chief Francis Arthur Nzeribe was in bed with the military perhaps because as an arms dealer, he felt his business would continue to boom under them. He did not want a return to democracy. He actually wanted Babangida to transit from military to civilian president. Babangida found him a willing ally for his devious plot to remain in power in perpetuity. Nzeribe formed ABN and had Abimbola Davis, a fellow Yoruba turncoat as Director of Operations of ABN to remove ethnic bias from the plot. The Uguta, Imo State-born businessman was a bundle of contradictions all through his active years. But his personality as a maverick got to its height during June 12 when his action steered the direction of ship of the Nigerian state down the precipice.

Only Davies recanted his June 12 actions after many years, but Nzeribe walked away from it all as if nothing happened, as he went down as enemy number one of Nigeria’s democracy. In spite of his odious action in annulling June 12 election, Nzeribe got elected into the Senate in 1999, but his people rejected his return bid in 2003. But since then he just faded from the national stage like a bad odour.

Olusegun Obasanjo, a former head of state, also played active role in the political tragedy that was the annulment of June 12. His infamous comment that Abiola was not the saviour that Nigerians were waiting for emboldened the military to trifle with the wishes of Nigerians on June 12. He could not stomach any other Yoruba man out-performing him at the national space. It was a reenactment of his 1979 fiasco when he ceded away Chief Obafemi Awolowo’s victory at the polls to a Alhaji Shehu Shagari.

So that when he became the biggest beneficiary of June 12 as the first democratically elected president in 1999 as a result of the agitations for June 12 and the institution of democracy, it was no surprise. He had been in cohort with those who annulled the election. It was the same military establishment that insisted he succeeded it.

Late Chief Tony Anineh became SDP’s party chairman after Kingibe became Abiola’s running mate. But like Kingibe, he would soon become lukewarm to the struggle for June 12 and turned a strategist for the military government that annulled his party’s victory. However, he would become one of the biggest beneficiaries of the agitation for the return to democratic rule as one of the pillars of Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) and fondly called ‘Mr. Fix It’ for the party. After the defeat of PDP in 2015, Anineh retired from active politics before he passed away.

Tom Ikimi was the chairman of National Republican Convention (NRC), one of the two political parties Babangida imposed on the political scene. He actively supported the annulment of the election. He would take up appointment in Abacha’s government as Minister of Foreign Affairs. A founding member of All Progressives Congress (APC), he would later dump the party last year for PDP after Adams Oshiomhole emerged the party’s chairman.

Gen. Sani Abacha was primed to inherit military leadership from Babangida, but the brazen manner of the annulled election and the violent resistance it engendered made for restrategising of tactics by the military hierarchy. When Babangida stepped aside, he should have retired Abacha, but he did not. That was a tactical error. So that when an Interim National Government (ING) was formed, Abacha saw his chance and promptly struck and seized power.

From announcing the overthrow of Alhaji Shehu Shagari in 1983 to seizing power on November 17, 1993, Abacha had been lurking in the shadows; he showed his hand when Nigeria was still reeling from the aberration that Shenokan’s ING generated. Pro-democracy and civil society organizations and groups were still up in arms against what the military had done and wanted the ING out. Abacha came and showed that even Babangida was a benevolent dictator; Abacha brought with him a crude form of dictatorship that annihilated many Nigerians. Those who escaped death in his hands were thrown into jail or simply went into exile. The country heaved a sigh of relief when he died on June 8, 2008.

https://guardian.ng/politics/heroes-and-villains-of-june-12/

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Politics / Re: Democracy Built On Ethnicity Does Not Endure — It’ll Continue To Wobble - GEJ by georgeakins: 7:28am On Jun 12
ChristCee:

Did you see how much CBN was looting under buhari who claimed to be fighting corruption? Wad your life this miserable under Jonathan?
Whatever you called this man, he was never found guilty of any corruption case, the whole world is embracing him today, he was not a religious bigot, after Jonathan, presidents started appointing themselves as minister, ministers and aides started stealing in trillions and prices started going up by x100%
Jonathan is the best President Nigeria has ever had considering that he controlled 70% of Yarad'ua's tenure as well

Oil was over $140 per barrel and production rose to over 2.7m barrels. Jonathan looted and mismanaged everything.

Today, Jonathan is the owner of Air peace airlines.

The defeat of Jonsthan still dey pepper ibos.
Not that they love him at all, they only thought they could use him to install their fellow biaflan as the president.
The same Ibos made Jonathan lose all the goodwill he enjoyed from all Nigerians in 2011.

Ibos ruined Jonathan government

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Business / Re: Guinness Announces Plan To Leave Nigeria After 75 by faceland: 2:48am On Jun 12
Polchiz:

Try and understand simple analogy:

1. Deago is a big player in the beverage industry just like Heineken and AB InBev. Their leaving Nigeria is an indication that the country is not good for investment and that will scare other big foreign investors away.

2. Many will lose their job and those who manage to retain theirs will have their salaries and allowances reduced. The new company does not have the financial muscle to pay huge remuneration.

3. The new company is just testing the water because Guinness Nigeria have declared annual loss for couple of years since the cost of importation of raw materials has skyrocketed. There is every possibility that the new company will also leave soon.

4. Nigeria will lose foreign exchange earnings because Guinness Nigeria products are exported to many African countries. Change in company name has a way of affecting consumer perceptions

5. There are many corporate social responsibilities that Guinness Nigeria is known for in Nigeria, that will stop automatically.

The Minster of Finance blamed buhari for why 500 companies packed-up and left Nigerian since last year. Not 500 people, 500 foreign brands.

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Politics / Re: Court Of Appeal Port Harcourt Division Virtual Court Sitting. by Eteka1(m): 3:12pm On Jun 11
kedeojo:
You people will not kill person with laugh. Just because Ameachi told the governor that his popularity is because of the attack on Wike. He is an enemy to you people. This are the reason some of us keep saying that you people play emotional politics to much. Politician are really not enemy but fight for there interest and settle later. Ameachi and Wike are brothers from same tribe, so know that. I won't be surprise if you people start abusing Ameachi in the coming days. Hypocrisy is so high among you people. Fubara will lose the fight but may not be impeached. Up till now, I still don't like Wike but I don't care how the power tussle end because some of you supported Wike then, when he keep attacking buhari and using Odili and wife to get favourable judgement and that led to Justice Odili denied CJN position which she merited. I have not seen the type of people in my life, like you and others who keep supporting wrong doings, just because he suit you and start crying when it becomes opposite.
I don't know what you are talking about.
Politics / Re: Court Of Appeal Port Harcourt Division Virtual Court Sitting. by kedeojo(m): 3:09pm On Jun 11
Eteka1:
false. It is the Governor that is greedy. He wants to bring down the House of Assembly members and LGA chairmen because he feels that they are not loyal to him but to Wike his Boss. He wants to destroy the structure that produced him so that he can become a Lord overnight. If he wants to fight, let him fight and stop complaining. Nobody send am to fight person wey strong pass am.
You people will not kill person with laugh. Just because Ameachi told the governor that his popularity is because of the attack on Wike. He is an enemy to you people. This are the reason some of us keep saying that you people play emotional politics to much. Politician are really not enemy but fight for there interest and settle later. Ameachi and Wike are brothers from same tribe, so know that. I won't be surprise if you people start abusing Ameachi in the coming days. Hypocrisy is so high among you people. Fubara will lose the fight but may not be impeached. Up till now, I still don't like Wike but I don't care how the power tussle end because some of you supported Wike then, when he keep attacking buhari and using Odili and wife to get favourable judgement and that led to Justice Odili denied CJN position which she merited. I have not seen the type of people in my life, like you and others who keep supporting wrong doings, just because he suit you and start crying when it becomes opposite.
Politics / Re: Rivers Crisis: High Court Affirms Amaewhule, 26 Others As PDP Members by Peacecore: 7:48pm On Jun 10
phantom:
Las Las Wike go still lose! Mark my words.. Rivers is bigger than one man.
This was how yorubas defended amaechi because he contributed to buhari s emergence. How did that end? 😂

Below is the extract from their defection affidavit.. the 27 lawmakers are goners! There is actually a signed affidavit with reasons for defection admissible in court prepared in their hastiness. This affidavit is before the federal High Court.. grin
Oga go rest. PDP said that they didn't defect but you outside the part is saying otherwise.
Politics / Re: Rivers Crisis: High Court Affirms Amaewhule, 26 Others As PDP Members by phantom(m): 1:36pm On Jun 10
Las Las Wike go still lose! Mark my words.. Rivers is bigger than one man.
This was how yorubas defended amaechi because he contributed to buhari s emergence. How did that end? 😂

Below is the extract from their defection affidavit.. the 27 lawmakers are goners! There is actually a signed affidavit with reasons for defection admissible in court prepared in their hastiness. This affidavit is before the federal High Court.. grin


Update: the so called copies of the judgement are attached..

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Politics / Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by Eriokanmi: 2:40am On Jun 10
7upnigeria:


Non tribalists who cant mention the achievements of Obi and compare with Tinubu's achievements as Governor. I'll rather be a tribalist who votes for PERFORMER than dumb former Governor who's only loved just because he's stingy. Once bitten twice shy, buhari was loved for the same reason but ended up as a calamity. I WILL NEVER VOTE BASED ON CROWD MENTALITY, YOU CAN DO THAT IF YOU WANT. Till now, i've tried to engage obidients in intelligent discussions but hardly has anyone of them been able to tell me just 3 MEANINGFUL ACHIEVEMENTS OF OBI while he was Governor but theyre always quick to insult you because you don't support the guy. You all can continue to do follow follow without knowing the mental capacity of the person youre following, ZOMBIE.

I stopped reading your post the moment I read the emboldened....when I said I stopped, believe me I did, cos I did know the rest of the post would be childish and absolute nonsense. Let me ask you, why did he lose lagos , if the emboldened was true? You see why I said you're unintelligent? grin

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Politics / Re: Tinubu Never Interfered With My Work As FCT Minister — Wike by richiemcgold: 12:10am On Jun 09
SpatialKing:


If is for Rivers state

Is not possible anymore
As long Tinubu keeps romancing Wike he will definitely lose the loyalty of SIM..

And the one way Rivers politics is, you need the support of the seating governor to be able to rig elections
But Amaechi, as a governor, could not win Rivers for buhari in 2015

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Foreign Affairs / Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:35pm On Jun 08
ijebosb:

A lot of people disagree.
And isn't that why we have democracy, to sort out what we do despite our differences and disagreement?

ijebosb:

The Supreme Court size is a norm. The question is what do you believe is more important, protecting a norm of 9 justices and lifetime appointments, or protecting people's rights such as a woman's right to have life saving surgery.

The supreme court said the state should decide whether to protect people's rights such as a woman's right to have life saving surgery, which means the majority people in the state get to decide whether to protect people's rights such as a woman's right to have life saving surgery. But in the current end, it boils down to my body my choice, since no one can stop me leaving a state where I am in a minority and go to a state where I am part of the majority. That, is democracy at work.

Now, if Biden would do me good, he'd put my body my choice in the constitution so states can't take over my body. But I guess he'd find it difficult getting past federalism and state autonomy.

ijebosb:
I believe that Education is the foundation of a Democracy. A lot of people in the US aren't getting that education.

Now, that's a pity, that a lot if people in the US aren't getting that education.

Happened in Nigeria too by the way. A lot of people did not get educated by buhari's APC hardship and elected Tinubu's APC who is now educating us on his own even worse hardship.

I hope we learn, but if we don't and behave again like turkeys voting for more APC Christmas, I guess we'd just be repeating the class and our education continues, I say.

ijebosb:
The problem is that a majority of the US could get it and Biden wouold still lose as our elections are based on the Electoral College. And the spaces with the unfair electoral advantage are the least educated.
Its gerrymandering. And it makes USA seem undemocratic in my view. But it is at it is until we amend the constitution I'm afraid. Pity Biden isn't looking to change it already

ijebosb:
yes there are vast amount of Americans that are stupid and get easily fooled by misinformation. And those tend to be the loudest voice. It's the truth. And this thread isn't the outlier you think it is.
Loudest voices, but still one vote each. And yes, this thread isn't the outlier. I got Newsmaxx, Infowars, OAN and Fox on my telly talking the same ignorant stupid qanon 2000mules rubbish, and there's many on Twitter and a reddit and that dump's failing Lies Social. And almost half the country showed they are stupid, so I ought to know this thread and others like it here aren't outliers. My hope is they continue to be the minority they were at the last election, and the next election would let me know if they are or not.

ijebosb:
Though we have free speech doesn't mean we can't stop protecting those who spread it.
I don't want to protect those spreading lies. What I want to be done is have them charged to court and be found guilty and fined a la Alex Jones and dump and Guiliani and Sidney Powell and Bannon et al. I gain much pleasure when the jail time and money they are being asked to pay results in them going bankrupt and imprisoned.

ijebosb:
Biden begging Meechan would be political interference.
I know it is. Still, as soon as dump is jailed by Merchan, Biden should beg the state governor for dump's release. The humiliation would make my day.

ijebosb:
As head of the Executive Branch, Biden's duty is to enforce the law. The DOJ falls under him. It's been norm that the President walls himself off given them independence, but Attorney General reports to him, so untested because of the Norm, but many people believe the President can dictate prosecutions.
See above where I am asking Biden to illegally jump over the wall and free dump, lol.

I'd hate it though if Biden jumped over that same wall and weaponised the DOJ to prosecute dump.

Travel / Re: Azman Air Hostesses Dressed In Hijab (Photos) by Elusive001: 10:00pm On Jun 07
Nonny95:
The post was even made a day ago!

Everyone in the comment section were just shouting “masha Allah”. No outrage, No trend…. No attacks, but Airpeace did theirs and all hell got lose…. Really shows how miserable people can be having hatred against a particular part of the so called Nigeria



My happiness is that the albatross of the Nigerian state is their hatred for the Igboman. As long as the continue to dance to the demonic hatred for the Igboman, their country will never ever make any iota if progress.

To spite the Igboman, they supported buhari. Did they and their country make any progress? No!!!!

To teach the Igboman political lessons, they supported a "different town hall". Is the country making any progress? Never!!!! Ebi ana apiawa dem azu full-time.

To deal with the Igboman, they dealt with Ibeto. Have they been able to buy cement? Noo!!!

They deny Igboman quite a lot. Has the country moved forward? No.

They have MNK locked up but left Sunday Idogho. They released even those involved in terrorism. Has insecurity stopped on their land? No!!!!

They set the cut-off marks very high for the Igboman. Has it favoured the country academically? No!!!!!

They use quota system to edge out the Igboman. Has he t favoured the country? Noo!!!

The list is endless.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 1:57pm On Jun 06
raumdeuter:


There is nothing APC has done that has matched what PDP under GEJ did to opposition just GEJ not even OBJ

Under GEJ he weaponized the state agency like military who dealt with opposition. That was the job of Obanikoro minister of state for defence, Olukayode and one Col Sagir. If APC wanted to match this, they will deploy soldiers to harrass Obi and Datti

Under GEJ they used the media to smear their opponents where AIT and NTA were airing propaganda pieces on buhari and Tinubu, It was when GEJ lost that Dokpesi had to apologize on all newspaper. TVC and NTA did not do hit pieces on Obi

Under GEJ prominent PDP people like Fayose took newspaper aadverts to announce the death of buhari, No one did that to Obi under APC

Under GEJ, when reports reached the security advisers that GEJ was going to lose if elections took place in February, he moved the date of the election to March and in the time between increased propaganda and pressure on APC. No one did that to Obi

Nollywood, Musicians, Transformation Agents of Nigeria did all sorts of propaganda and insults to prominent APC members, If not that "the "buhari pull over" clip has been pulled from youtube I will post it here

The supporter of APC example is still here not the word in bold was Janjaweeeed written

The importance of this is like I told you earlier, we owe the future the truth, the way you are going one young 20yr old will think PDP under GEJ were angels doing nothing and APC was just smearing them

This is how stories like Nigeria vs India gets propagated when people who know deliberately share the news or ignore and refuse to correct falsehoods

https://web.facebook.com/watch/?v=1968686053428620

and of course the 40 laptops
mandelaguy, sincerenigerian and a host of other mercenaries

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:55pm On Jun 06
raumdeuter:


There is nothing APC has done that has matched what PDP under GEJ did to opposition just GEJ not even OBJ

Under GEJ he weaponized the state agency like military who dealt with opposition. That was the job of Obanikoro minister of state for defence, Olukayode and one Col Sagir. If APC wanted to match this, they will deploy soldiers to harrass Obi and Datti

Under GEJ they used the media to smear their opponents where AIT and NTA were airing propaganda pieces on buhari and Tinubu, It was when GEJ lost that Dokpesi had to apologize on all newspaper. TVC and NTA did not do hit pieces on Obi

Under GEJ prominent PDP people like Fayose took newspaper aadverts to announce the death of buhari, No one did that to Obi under APC

Under GEJ, when reports reached the security advisers that GEJ was going to lose if elections took place in February, he moved the date of the election to March and in the time between increased propaganda and pressure on APC. No one did that to Obi

Nollywood, Musicians, Transformation Agents of Nigeria did all sorts of propaganda and insults to prominent APC members, If not that "the "buhari pull over" clip has been pulled from youtube I will post it here

The supporter of APC example is still here not the word in bold was Janjaweeeed written

The importance of this is like I told you earlier, we owe the future the truth, the way you are going one young 20yr old will think PDP under GEJ were angels doing nothing and APC was just smearing them

This is how stories like Nigeria vs India gets propagated when people who know deliberately share the news or ignore and refuse to correct falsehoods

Lmao 😂 😂😂

I don hear u

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:41pm On Jun 06
BlueRayDick:


No matter how ridiculous a point is , u will sha throw it around hoping it will stick and act as defence for the scourge APC has become.

The Mcpilot boy clearly defamed the Gawat boy.

This Ridwanne guy defamed Rita Dominic by calling her ashawo without having any prove that she’s actually a prostitute .

The same Ridwanne guy called Goodluck Jonathan “an electoral devil “ and also “Laurent Gbagbo” ; a name synonymous with a president that refused to step down after losing a free and fair election.


Maybe u think some of us don’t know what defamation is sef . Some of us know law of tort and we know all those statements the Ridwanne guy made satisfied all the elements of defamation. It is hypocrisy on his part hyperventilating over the Gawat v McPilot matter .

As regards PDP giving it back to APC , did anybody stop APC from giving it back to LP and Obi Supporters ? Why are they now shedding crocodile tears everywhere online and calling police instead of giving it back ?

There is nothing APC has done that has matched what PDP under GEJ did to opposition just GEJ not even OBJ

Under GEJ he weaponized the state agency like military who dealt with opposition. That was the job of Obanikoro minister of state for defence, Olukayode and one Col Sagir. If APC wanted to match this, they will deploy soldiers to harrass Obi and Datti

Under GEJ they used the media to smear their opponents where AIT and NTA were airing propaganda pieces on buhari and Tinubu, It was when GEJ lost that Dokpesi had to apologize on all newspaper. TVC and NTA did not do hit pieces on Obi

Under GEJ prominent PDP people like Fayose took newspaper aadverts to announce the death of buhari, No one did that to Obi under APC

Under GEJ, when reports reached the security advisers that GEJ was going to lose if elections took place in February, he moved the date of the election to March and in the time between increased propaganda and pressure on APC. No one did that to Obi

Nollywood, Musicians, Transformation Agents of Nigeria did all sorts of propaganda and insults to prominent APC members, If not that "the "buhari pull over" clip has been pulled from youtube I will post it here

The supporter of APC example is still here not the word in bold was Janjaweeeed written

The importance of this is like I told you earlier, we owe the future the truth, the way you are going one young 20yr old will think PDP under GEJ were angels doing nothing and APC was just smearing them

This is how stories like Nigeria vs India gets propagated when people who know deliberately share the news or ignore and refuse to correct falsehoods

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Politics / Re: Every APC Supporters Should Know That The Obedients Have Not Started. by BATified2023: 4:39pm On Jun 05
kedeojo:
In as much I don't pray for war, the igbos will loose in a war with the Yorubas. The igbos took last year election too personally and emotionally too. When it doesn't favour you, go to the drawing board and strategize. Some of us in south south was not happy about the loss of Jonathan presidency but took it in good faith. We moved on and now south south members in both Apc and Pdp are strong and they have form alliance too and we may even get presidency again before south east. In politics, you can't take trust away. Many politician from other zone reason that way. I personally lost an NDDC job that I was to resume in 2015 and Jonathan was very slow about the process of confirmation. That is what it is, so because of that I should be insulting buhari then or even Jonathan for not making it possible. I accepted and move on. What is hard for you people to move on, except you have an agenda. Abiola won the freest election in 1993 and he was denied and subsequently arrested and he died in prison, don't you think the Yorubas were not pained but the accepted and re organise their self by peaceful protest and calling on the world powers to see and the military went against many and other ran away and still fighting for their right and when democracy was installed they form their own party the alliance for democrat (AD) and made Olu falae has their presidential candidate but Ibb and some retired military men in the north chooses Obasanjo and made him the Pdp candidate and was supported by the north and east and south south politicians who Ibb has already bribed. In all south westerner benefitted from the annulment of Abiola election.that is the point am making. You can lose election and now want the country to go on flames. The reason some of us think most of you people are supporting Ipob who now also disguises as unknown gun men to carry out phantom damages to properties and live is that you people keep quiet for long but when it now occurs that you people are now at the receiving end some are now speaking against them. You people you should form real alliances and criticise constructively. Condemned act in all zone not selectiveness.
God bless u

They lost the election n they wish doom on d country

I wonder what they will say come 2027

Look at how they are attacking everyone against them not knowing it’s not everyone that will support u
Politics / Re: Every APC Supporters Should Know That The Obedients Have Not Started. by kedeojo(m): 3:41pm On Jun 05
BATified2023:
so u are ready for them n u don’t think they are also ready for u?
In as much I don't pray for war, the igbos will loose in a war with the Yorubas. The igbos took last year election too personally and emotionally too. When it doesn't favour you, go to the drawing board and strategize. Some of us in south south was not happy about the loss of Jonathan presidency but took it in good faith. We moved on and now south south members in both Apc and Pdp are strong and they have form alliance too and we may even get presidency again before south east. In politics, you can't take trust away. Many politician from other zone reason that way. I personally lost an NDDC job that I was to resume in 2015 and Jonathan was very slow about the process of confirmation. That is what it is, so because of that I should be insulting buhari then or even Jonathan for not making it possible. I accepted and move on. What is hard for you people to move on, except you have an agenda. Abiola won the freest election in 1993 and he was denied and subsequently arrested and he died in prison, don't you think the Yorubas were not pained but the accepted and re organise their self by peaceful protest and calling on the world powers to see and the military went against many and other ran away and still fighting for their right and when democracy was installed they form their own party the alliance for democrat (AD) and made Olu falae has their presidential candidate but Ibb and some retired military men in the north chooses Obasanjo and made him the Pdp candidate and was supported by the north and east and south south politicians who Ibb has already bribed. In all south westerner benefitted from the annulment of Abiola election.that is the point am making. You can lose election and now want the country to go on flames. The reason some of us think most of you people are supporting Ipob who now also disguises as unknown gun men to carry out phantom damages to properties and live is that you people keep quiet for long but when it now occurs that you people are now at the receiving end some are now speaking against them. You people you should form real alliances and criticise constructively. Condemned act in all zone not selectiveness.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 3:40pm On Jun 05
GrammarNazi1:

This is a lie, at least in the case of Tinubu.

Let's not shy away from telling the truth.

The hate they have for Tinubu can never make a lot of them vote Tinubu.

Put Tinubu against a stone and SE will vote a stone. Put Tinubu against buhari in SE, buhari will win Tinubu. Put Tinubu vs the dead body of Osama . Tinubu will lose

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TV/Movies / Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by JackBizzle: 11:32am On Jun 05
oyaskii:
I am pretty sure if this was a white actor, "The Slap" shindig would have boiled over by now, but because of his race, all his illustrious achievements is still gonna be defined by that action. I mean this man is quite possibly one of the greatest entertainers ever, but his career is been wilted down to a misdemeanor that quite frankly came from a good place, i mean, most sane women will totally love their man defending them in the face of disrespect, albeit the wife is thrash tho imo.

Ezra miller's rap sheet is longer than the rival Nile, and he is damn near a felon!, but that didn't stop him from appearing in a big budget flick on a big platform with said platform bosses even trying to defend him before the movie came out.


Will Smith is an Oscar Best Actor winner, and he is still been treated like this, inferring that as a person of Black origin, you are already at a disadvantage, sad, but it is what it is, and The only way to gain prominence, break the stereotypes and earn global respect is for us to be united for causes that concerns us...See what the Jews and Indians are doing, Isreal is damn well committing a genocide but the "first class countries" are turning a blind eye, because Jews are in the upper echelons of the world strata. Compare to Blacks, Black Americans have a low mentality thinking that they are more "superior" than Blacks from African descent, like same skin color o, but they feel they are ""Superior"....beats me.

I saw a US grad student from Africa leading a #FreePalestine movement last month, and this brother was ready to loose his admission, lose his F-1 visa and possibly get deported for the cause! and i was like, look at this dumb fóól!, if the roles were reversed, no arab or Caucasian is risking all that for your black behind!.

We as blacks need to do much better.


I understand what you are saying. But how do we as blacks move forward?

We are enslaved by religion and colonial mentality.

Just look at the front page and see how many Nigerians are supporting Israel. The same Israel that the whole world is now wanting to stop the genocide. And of course, the Muslim Nigerians support Palestine blindly. I have two Muslim guys in the Muslim section who have never criticized APC or buhari or Tinubu but they shout for Palestine all day.

We are enslaved mentally. The slavery of blacks has moved from physical to mental.

We worship the white man and also worship his God.

Just even look at the comment saying that the western countries are better because they have war heroes.....as if Africa or Asia don't have war heroes as well.

I preach every day but the enslaved ones say that I'm a fool. The irony

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Politics / Re: Politicians Won’t Go To Court If Judiciary Is Fair, Upright – Goodluck Jonathan by siverspooon(m): 8:23am On Jun 05
TimeManager:

It was fact. PremiumTimes carried the news, Osita Chidoka, Ngozi Iweala were among the allies who persuaded him. Infact, Osita was the first to tweet about GEJ conceding defeat to buhari after much persuasion, right there at GEJ's residence in Abuja.

-Kiss the truth!
Do you think it's easy to concede defeat?
Inside the same room ppl were convincing him to accept, there are also many telling him not to accept defeat too and those ones are bigger.
This man did what most Africans will never do by taking that decision
He is saying the truth
In America once you lose you lose not need going to court
Thas why trump that tried it ended up embarrassing himself more
There electoral system,they trust very much likewise their judicial system
Religion / Re: ‘Things Are Hard' - Pastor Adeboye Says by wman(m): 5:11am On Jun 05
CorrectionFLuid:
Same man led a one million man march against Jonathan. But has been silent since APC got to power. Will instead call for more prayer and more tithe.

Old hypocrite. Making people lose their faith. Which will never come back.

The One Million March was held under buhari.
Politics / Re: Heritage Bank: CBN Should Not Destabilize The Country's Financial System —Obi by anonimi: 9:47am On Jun 04
Lizzysamuel:
People are already complaining.

Enemy of NIGERIANs when will you care about your countrymen

Did gbajuẹ Peter Obi care about his countrymen when he jumped into the communist camp of LP labourers from capitalist PDP, in his misguided and miscalculated desperate attempt to get into Aso Rock, which made it easier for ThiefNuibu to continue APC shege of buhari in his own Emilokan turn?

Who is the desperado fooling apart from himself and his dogmatic ObiDense followers

Someone who should be ashamed of his role in helping ThiefNuibu inflict damage on us and be doing a forgive-me tour of our country.

jameshankss:
Anambra State Governor, Professor Chukwuma Soludo, has said he is sure the candidate of Labour Party (LP), Mr Peter Obi, would lose the 2023 presidential election. Soludo said he would not submit to the bullying of Obi’s supporters, who recently descended on him for addressing issues in the state.

The governor made the comments in a lengthy write-up personally authored, with the title, “History Beckons, and I Will Not Be Silent (Part 1).”

Soludo said Obi was inadvertently making the pathway to victory much easier for the presidential candidate of All Progressives Congress (APC), Bola Tinubu, and at the same time, toying with the destiny of millions of Ndigbo.
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He stated, “For full disclosure, let me state that Peter Obi and I are not just friends, we call ourselves ‘brothers’. But we have political differences: he left APGA for PDP after his tenure as governor, while I have remained in APGA since 2013.

“During the last two governorship elections in Anambra in 2017 and 2021, he led the PDP campaigns but APGA won landslide in both elections. By the way, in 2016, he visited and proposed that I defect to PDP and contest the 2017 election against the incumbent Willie Obiano, but I declined.

“After my victory in November 2021, he called to congratulate me, as I did to him in 2010. That is the Anambra way: we fight fiercely during campaigns but share drinks at the next social events. After all, it was the Great Zik of Africa, who taught us that in politics, there are no permanent friends or permanent enemies but only permanent interests.”

Arguing that Obi’s presidential bid would only work in favour of Tinubu, Soludo said, “Indeed, if I were Asiwaju Tinubu, I would even give Peter Obi money as someone heading one of the departments of his campaign, because Obi is making Tinubu’s pathway to victory much easier by indirectly pulling down PDP.”

Obi, according to Soludo, would only deplete the votes of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) and pave the path for an APC victory.

He stated, “The current fleeting frenzy, if not checked, will cost Ndigbo dearly for years. The South-east has the lowest number of votes of any region, but it is also the only region where the presidential race might be a four-way race (it is a two-way race in the other five regions) thereby, ensuring that our votes won’t count in the making of the next president of Nigeria.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2022/11/15/soludo-i-wont-succumb-to-bullies-obi-knows-he-cant-win/

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Business / New VAT Rate To Be Carried Out In Phases – Panel by ivandragon: 8:08am On Jun 04
New VAT rate to be carried out in phases – Panel
Punch NewspapersJun 4, 2024 12:00 AM


The Chairman of the Presidential Tax and Fiscal Policy Reforms Committee, Taiwo Oyedele, has said the proposed plan to increase the Value Added tax rate from 7.5 per cent to 10 per cent will be implemented in phases.

This was as he revealed that empirical data had confirmed that less than 10 per cent of affluent Nigerians fulfill their obligation to file and pay the correct amount of taxes to the government.

Speaking at a public consultation workshop for journalists and public analysts held in Abuja with the theme, ‘Proposed changes to the national tax policy, tax laws and administration,’ on Monday, Oyedele stated that the VAT revenue-sharing formula had also been reviewed to increase state collection rate from 50 to 55 per cent, local government area to 35 per cent and reduce FG rate to 10 per cent.

He asserted that implementing this measure would not only enable the government to sidestep a notable decline in revenue but also mitigate the sudden surge in prices of goods and services overnight.

He said, “The reforms will reduce Company Income Tax from 30 per cent to 25 per cent but it will be implemented in phases, so like in 2025, it may be reduced from 30 per cent to 27.5 per cent and then in 2026, reduced from 27.5 per cent to 25 per cent. The VAT as well, which is part of the items we are adjusting upwards will also be in phases, in 2025, a little increment and in 2026, another increment.

“So overall, we don’t want to drop government revenue overnight, if we adjust overnight, the impact on government revenue will be significant and if it is increased overnight, the impact is still significant, so we would see a lot of phasing in the work we are doing but we would pass the law and it would tell you what the rate would be in the future. These are some of the things we are saying should be done to prove that there is proper planning.”

VAT is a 7.5 per cent consumption tax administered by the Federal Inland Revenue Service when goods are purchased and services rendered. The final consumer bears the tax burden.

Revenue generated from VAT is usually disbursed to the three tiers of government through the Federation Accounts Allocation Committee at a current formula of 15 per cent for the central government, 50 per cent for states and 35 per cent for local governments.


Checks by our correspondents showed that the government raked in N10.1tn from the collection of Value Added Tax under former President Muhammadu buhari and constitutes a major source of income for sub-nationals.

Despite the huge amount, the government has clamoured for increased rates. The former Minister of Finance, Zainab Ahmed, had advised the current government to increase VAT from 7.5 per cent to 10 per cent.

The tax expert added that the committee had also recommended that food, education, medical services and accommodation to carry zero per cent VAT in order to reduce the cost of products affecting headline inflation.

According to him, steps have been identified to increase the compliance rate from 30 per cent to more than 90 per cent.

“Our major contributors to inflation account for 82 per cent of why there is inflation and why we think our recommendation will reduce inflation and not increase it. If we don’t allow this to work, we will lose out on the opportunity to make things better for ourselves.

“The solution to VAT is a political solution and not legal, so we have recommended that VAT collection should be in the constitution and we have recommended to the national assembly put VAT under the exclusive legislative list so that it can collected centrally but 90 per cent goes to the state and 10 to the central government and we think that would resolve some of the problems, particularly the percentage of derivation that they would get.”

“One of our recommendations is that nobody should qualify for elective office or government appointment unless they have fully complied with their tax obligations in terms of declaration and payment. Some rich Nigerians don’t pay tax and that is correct, we have the data to support that, if you look at the rich Nigerians who pay the right amount of tax are less than 10 per cent and that is where the money is and not in the informal sector.”

In his presentation, the chairman also revealed that the proposed list of harmonised taxes and levies included income tax, property tax, Value Added Tax, customs duties, excise tax, stamp duties, special levy, and harmonised levy.

He also hinted at the social security contribution, which he said was “not a tax.”

He said the Harmonised Tax Levy, which comprised road and market taxes, was meant to cater for the local governments.

The PFPTRC chairman said under the proposed new tax regime, income tax should now comprise Company Income Tax, Withholding Tax, CPT, and capital gain tax, among others.

He said, “VAT is very sensitive because people immediately feel it when paying for goods and services. what we have today is the collection of VAT on so many things including things that should not attract VAT like food, education, and health and many of those things have what we call tax exemption.

“There is another regime that is called Zero-rated VAT, which says that if you put VAT at zero per cent all the VAT incurred to produce the items will be paid back by the government. They have a choice between expert and zero rated for food

“We are saying that we need to take a second look at our VAT rate and focus on the things our people spend the money on the most, food, transport, and accommodation, so on those items, we want to remove the VAT as much as possible.”

He added, “That is where more than 90 per cent of our population spends more than 80 per cent of their income but once we do that, government revenue will drop by at least 60 per cent and we are very practical to know that nobody will approve that recommendation. so for them to approve, we would approve the VAT rate upward on anything other than rent, food, transport and essential items. Businesses can also claim input credit on services and assets and this will enhance their ability to start new businesses and grow existing ones. And this is why we recommended higher rates and share for states.”

A breakdown of the eight taxes showed that withholding tax, Petroleum Profits Tax, and Capital Gains Tax would be merged into company income tax, collected by the Federal Inland Revenue Service and be payable by companies and individuals with a sharing formula of 52.68 per cent to FG, 26.72 per cent or 100 per cent to states, and 20.60 per cent for LGAs.

The consumption tax and entertainment tax will be merged into the VAT, which will be shouldered by consumers, collected by the FIRS, and subsequently allocated 10 per cent to the Federal Government, 55 per cent to the states, and 35 per cent to the local governments.

Property tax, including the amalgamation of land use charges, tenement rates, and ground rates, will be consolidated into a single levy. This tax will be borne by property owners, and collected by the State Internal Revenue Service, with 70 per cent allocated to the respective states and 30 per cent for LGAs.

Customs duties, encompassing import and export duties and levies, will be unified into a singular levy. Importers will be responsible for payment, with collections managed by the Nigerian Customs Service. The distribution will allocate 52.68 per cent to the Federal Government, 26.72 per cent to the states, and 20.60 per cent to LGAs.

The gaming tax, liquor license fee, and telecom tax will be consolidated into an Excise tax structure. This tax will be payable by both manufacturers and consumers, with collection overseen by the FIRS. The revenue generated will be distributed, with 52.68 per cent allocated to the Federal Government, 26.72 per cent to the states, and 20.60 per cent to local governments.

While the electronic money transfer levy will be integrated into Stamp duties, which will be payable by both companies and individuals, the collection of the duties will be jointly managed by the FIRS and state IRS, with the entirety of the revenue remitted to the respective states.

The Tertiary education tax, NITDA, NASENI, ITF, LCL, and NDDC will be consolidated into a Special levy. This levy will be payable by companies and collected by the FIRS, with the entirety of the revenue collected retained by the government.

The harmonised levy for road and market taxes will be imposed on transporters and traders. This levy will be collected by the state’s Internal Revenue Service and distributed, with 30 per cent allocated to the states and 70 per cent to the local governments.

https://punchng.com/new-vat-rate-to-be-carried-out-in-phases-panel/?utm_source=top-story&utm_medium=web&amp
Politics / Re: 2023 Elections Showed Yorubas Don’t Hate Igbos – Peter Obi by StreetFight: 8:27pm On Jun 03
leokid866:
it's all good just don't wail when your oga takes another LOSS in 2027.....😁🤣🤣🤣🤣

He has lost 2027 already nah. 2027 election has already been won and lost. If he becomes a serial candidate like buhari and Atikulation, he will also lose to the Kanuri Wonder Boy Kashim Shettima in 2031 and 2035.

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Politics / Reasons Why Investors Will Not Go To A Country With Unstable Currency by fineboynl(m): 6:35pm On Jun 03
Reasons why investors will not go to a country with unstable currency.


Foreign investors count their money in dollars, Even if they have billions of your country currency in their account. They count and measure it in us dollars.

When your country currency lost value it hurt their profits and causes lost. And if your country currency is unstable for more than a year investor will pull out from such country as it happened during buhari tenure. Those investors that will remain in a country with unstable currency will change 3 times of the actual worth of the service or items.

Example is if the price for the service is 1000. They will charge 3000 just because of the currency is unstable and highly volatile. As it happens with the airline. Air flight is more costly is countries with unstable currency.


The basic reasons is simple. Because of losses. And During the devaluation time during buhari first and second term. The naira moved from 200naira to 800. Someone that has 1 billions dollars equivalent of the country currency will lose so much as 1 billions dollars moves to 200 million during buhari. And now it's 1500 to a dollar even more worst.

So tell me who will come to such a country?

If the Naira start gaining value slowly, steady and continuesly. Investors will access the economy and check if the gain is a sustainable one. If yes they will quickly put in their dollars while the currency is still devalue in other to take advantage of the gain and appreciation of the currency during that process.

Alot of foreign investors losses their money to inflation. ShopRite sold out and run away. DStv is over billing Nigerians to cover Hugh losses. Investors confidence destroyed in the last 9 years
Politics / Re: Inaugurating A Long Road To Nowhere – Dele Sobowale by ArcSEMPECJ(m): 1:01pm On Jun 02
Initially they said it is the contractor that will fund the project with other world bodies but alias , no one knew government has pushed money already for the project to begin...

Government rushed the work because of the kick backs involved ...

A project of 15 trillion plus is a huge kick back for the government...

Ofcourse Tinibu knew the project can't be finished in his tenure , so he has nothing to lose as far as he hands over to another APC thief just like buhari warned that Tinubu should never probe or disturb his government for any money missing ....

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Politics / Can PDP, LP Merger Rattle APC Stronghold In 2027? 2nd June 2024 by dododawa1: 12:43pm On Jun 02
ABDULRAHMAN ZAKARIYAU analyses the potential merger between the Peoples Democratic Party and the Labour Party ahead of 2027, even as the meeting of their former presidential candidates, ex-Vice President, Atiku Abubakar, and Peter Obi continues to generate debate

Political parties akin to other pillars of democracy such as the executive, judiciary, legislature, and the Independent National Electoral Commission play an essential role in democratic governance. They serve as platforms for like-minded individuals to mobilise and persuade voters to elect their candidates into office, thereby shaping government policies for the public good.

In this clime, political parties and their leaders are involved in diverse activities characterised by intrigues, manipulations, defections, and realignments aimed at securing electoral victories at both state and federal levels. The strategic collaboration of two or more parties with differing interests has emerged as a widespread practice, referred to as a merger or coalition. This entails influential parties and their leaders joining forces to challenge and democratically replace a dominant or ruling party.

Since Nigeria’s shift to democracy in 1999, there have been endeavours by political parties to merge or form coalitions, albeit with limited success. A notable exception occurred in 2013, leading up to the 2015 elections, when the defunct Action Congress of Nigeria, All Nigeria Peoples Party, Congress for Progressive Change, and certain members from the All Progressives Grand Alliance merged to create the All Progressives Congress.

Chairman of the merger committee of the ACN, Tom Ikimi explained that they toed this part to “offer to our beleaguered people a recipe for peace and prosperity.

“We resolve to form a political party committed to the principles of internal democracy, focused on serious issues of concern to our people, determined to bring corruption and insecurity to an end, determined to grow our economy and create jobs in their millions through education, housing, agriculture, industrial growth, etc. and stop the increasing mood of despair and hopelessness among our people.”

As a result, in 2015, for the first time in Nigeria’s history, the formidable opposition party, the APC, won the country’s most credible presidential election, defeating the People’s Democratic Party, which had been in power for 16 years. The defeat of President Goodluck Jonathan of the PDP by Muhammadu buhari of the APC underscored the significance of a merger or coalition in our political system, a trend that has since become familiar and constant.

In 2022, as preparations intensified for the 2023 presidential election, the concept reverberated among political stakeholders and ordinary citizens. Many believed that a merger akin to the one that propelled the APC to power for eight years was necessary for major opposition parties, including the Labour Party, New Nigeria People’s Party, and PDP, to challenge the APC’s dominance.

However, skeptical of this notion, presidential candidates from opposition parties—Atiku Abubakar of the PDP, Peter Obi of the LP, and Rabiu Kwankwaso of the NNPP—chose to contest the 2023 election separately, each with their platforms. Ultimately, they were defeated by President Bola Tinubu of the APC.

Faced with the current circumstances, prominent figures within the PDP and LP, namely Atiku and Obi, convened recently to discuss the possibility of merging ahead of the 2027 election. The former Vice President mentioned that his recent meeting with Obi might indicate a possible alliance leading up to the 2027 general elections.

Responding to questions about the meeting with Obi, Atiku said, “It’s just a normal friendly meeting that we often have, particularly among us in the opposition parties. Such meetings are healthy for Nigeria’s democracy and in the country’s interest.”

On whether this will bring about a merger, he said, “Yes, it’s very much possible. We can merge to achieve a common goal. So, it’s possible, and nothing can stop it if we wish to achieve that.”

The former Vice President, who denied that the choice of presidential candidate might frustrate the merger discussion, said, “That’s not true. That challenge will not arise. I can tell you that the choice of who will fly the flag of the party won’t be an issue.”

As a result, this development has sparked discussions among political analysts and stakeholders who raise questions about the timing, motives, and potential impact of this merger on the 2027 election.

‘Shaping 2027 polls’

A political analyst, Jide Ojo, said Atiku’s proposed merger could only work with sincerity of purpose. Ojo in an interview with Saturday PUNCH believed the call was coming at the appropriate time and noted that some political parties must be ready to lose their identity.

He said, “The merger move is in order provided that the purpose is sincere. Because what I think is plaguing our opposition party is trust. Because when you talk of a merger, you are going to lose your own identity, so, to that extent, you need to be firm and make sure you have a win-win solution.

“Merger will strengthen the hands of the opposition. Even though, I dare say that this is what they should have done ahead of the 2023 election, they didn’t do that. And when you look at the combined strength of the Labour Party presidential candidate, the PDP presidential candidate, and the NNPP presidential candidate, if they had worked towards having a merger, there is the possibility that Bola Tinubu would not be President today.

“So, now is the time for alliance and realignment of forces if they want to succeed in 2027. They need to come together either in an alliance or in a merger. But it is better for them in a merger than in an alliance. This is because it is a merger that works most, with the evidence that we have seen from the APC. So, I think they just want to work on that hypothesis, that if they merge that would help their cause, but how that works out, time will tell.”

The political analyst continued, “It is a good time to start thinking about this merger because 2027 is already upon us. So, if the purpose is sincere, yes, it can work to their advantage. That is the only way they can displace the incumbent party, the APC. They have between now and the end of 2025 to begin to pilot their electoral prowess.

“Politicians are incurable optimists; they believe in risk-taking, and the experience with the APC has shown that is the way to go. If the NNPP, PDP, and LP come together in a merger, just imagine how many seats they will be controlling in the national assembly, and they will have an additional two governors. But what that will do is that all those APC members who feel disenchanted will find their way into the new merger to boost their chances in 2027.
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“If there is sincerity of purpose and commitment and proper funding, and they can tick all the boxes, they can work through all that is required with INEC. It is something that can be done. But I think they need more, even after the merger, to embark on serious membership recruitment. If they can recruit more and fund their activities, if they can raise funds to fund their activities and present themselves as a better alternative to the APC, then it is doable. So, if they want to make Bola Tinubu a one-term President, they have to start now by combining their strength and ensuring that they are very strategic in their actions ahead of 2027.”

‘Merger needless to unseat APC’

Contrary to Ojo’s view, a lecturer in the Department of Political Science at the University of Ilorin, Dr Adebola Bakare, said the opposition political parties do not need to merge to win the 2027 election.

The political scientist said if opposition political parties perform their function at an optimal level, Nigerians will see them as the better alternative.

He lamented that in Nigeria, most political parties were not established to fully perform the functions of political parties. He added, “They are only interested in performing just one of the numerous functions of a political party, which is to contest and attempt to win elections to form a government.

“So, political parties in Nigeria are seen as associations of people who are only interested in winning and forming governments. The moment they come together, they don’t care about ideology, they don’t care about a manifesto; they don’t care about the economic methods, styles, or systems they want to use. All they care about is winning the election. So, the moment some of them come together, contest, and lose their elections, they go back to their shells until another four years, when they come out again,” he added.

Bakare said, “It is when people discover that the majority of those that aren’t winning the elections are not delivering the dividends of democracy. So, to me, I don’t believe the opposition political parties need to be called before they can perform the opposition. And secondly, I also don’t believe that there is a need for them to merge before they can perform their function as an opposition party.

He said, “The merger they are talking about in the last few days shows that they don’t have the country’s interests at heart. It shows that their interest is to wrest power from the APC in 2027. Can you now see a situation where we just finished the election this year and they are already scheming for 2027? So, they are not even interested in performing their functions.

“You know there are numerous functions that an opposition political party ought to perform. They are supposed to communicate with the people and enlighten them about political events and situations in the country. They are supposed to serve as watchdogs to the ruling political party so that where the ruling party is misbehaving, they will caution it to prevent governance recklessness.

“Also, in a presidential system, as we are practising, there’s nothing bad when Nigerian opposition political parties adopt some elements of what we see in parliamentary democracy. When Bola Tinubu was elected President, Atiku, as the PDP candidate, also became the shadow president of the country. He came second, and Peter Obi could also become the shadow president of the country. You know, if they had won the election, they would have appointed ministers. They could still go ahead and appoint them as shadow ministers.”

The political analyst continued “Now, by the time we have a Minister of Education from the ruling party occupying the office, we can now have a shadow Minister of Education from the opposition parties. The essence of that shadow minister is to scrutinise and analyse the government’s education policy. Whatever the minister is bringing out, it is going to be constructive criticism from the shadow minister. When the ruling party is getting it right, the opposition will tell the country that this policy is right. Where the ruling party is getting it wrong, the shadow minister of the opposition parties will provide an alternative.

“When they do this, they will put the APC on its toes to make sure it delivers. It will also portray the opposition party as a party that is better equipped to rule the country. So, the people will have options in the next election.

“If they want to perform their duty as an opposition party, they need no merger or coalition. They have to perform those activities unilaterally. This is why I am not too keen that something good will come out. I advise the opposition parties to examine constructively the policies of the government so that the government will be on its toes.”

Unify parties – NDP

Lending his voice to the matter, a political analyst and former national chairman of the National Democratic Party, Chudi Chukuwani, urged Atiku and Obi to unify their parties before discussing a merger.

Chukuwani stated that a merger amid internal crises within the PDP and LP would have little impact on the 2027 elections. The former national chairman of the NDP in an interview with Saturday PUNCH stated, “Atiku’s statement that if the PDP says he should not run, he will not run, and if the PDP asks him to support Obi, he will support Obi. That is a signal that until it happens, everything else is just talk.

“Another question is which platform will either of them contest? This is because when I look at the LP, they failed to manage their success, and they are fighting all over the place. They are still in court in one way or another. So, you have a party that is perpetually in court and crisis, even with the Nigeria Labour Congress.

“The LP is in a terrible situation. So, that may not be a dignified platform for any coalition candidate. PDP also has its issues. So, the first and best thing for all of them is to solve their parties’ problems first, have a unified party, and then start planning how to align with other opposition parties.

“They need to settle the internal issues in the LP and PDP before they can talk about a merger or alliance agreement. They need unified members to form a strong alternative. A merger won’t have a significant impact without a unified PDP and LP.”

However, the next 36 months will tell if the aim of the planned merger by the two opposition parties will be achieved, as the APC has always proved itself as a formidable ruling party.
Politics / Igbo People Get Bad Mouth But Unfortunately, They Are Right. Nairalander Opinion by ChristCee: 8:20am On Jun 02
I mean, just imagine the kind of nonsense on the front page here https://www.nairaland.com/8112033/dolapo-badmus-warns-school-reciting
from Dolapo Badmus, the pure arrogance, the insensitivity, schools that are probably facing a lot of 'up to the neck' tax burdens and profit decline due to the situations of the economy.

Look at the state of the national currency, I guess that one too will soon need to be replaced
billions are being spent everyday on needless trips, inflation and costs of goods are ever on the increase.

I know the igbos and 'obidient' people can be quiet annoying, I will be utterly honest here, even though there is a huge cultural decadence now enveloping the yoruba culture (No thanks to these randy musicians and whack comedians who thinks they are funny but only promoting cultural decay), the Yorubas and northerners still have a better cultural morals and more appreciated sense of respect for elders than the igbos and a lot of southerners (No hate intended). However, as vile as these Igbos (and non igbo obidients) might be, they are just so darn correct this time.

First of all APC got Nigeria into this mess. I don't think they have anything else to offer. Anything and anything at all outside APC is what the country needs. I am beginning to feel like even that unstable Sowore can never run a country aground like this.

With much respect to Mr. President, the people have lost trust in the administration, the whole 'Emilokan' slogan has made everything seem like a personal interest and a desire to just get to that summit without a concrete plan that will benefit Nigeria. My! personally, I never knew Nigeria could be worse off than it was under buhari. Never knew it could become this bad.
The fact that these Igbos could avoid their secession agitations to fight for a just Nigeria via the democratic process alone is commendable. But even now, no one has an iota of trust in that system anymore, everything could be rigged in this country.

Baba Obasanjo is the only reason why we Yorubas can still standup to the igbos and say "No, we are good at ruling and developing the nation" but even that Baba Obasanjo is an Obidient.
Imagine Nigeria going to war with Niger and everyone were hoping that Nigeria should lose the war, no patriotism again, even though people complained bitterly under Jonathan, all Nigerians were solidly behind him and our armies when we went to war with the rebels of Mali and took the country in just two weeks.

and oh by the way, it became obvious that under Jonathan, we were living in paradise.

There are three Nigerian politicians I respect a lot, Jonathan, Saraki and Baba Obasanjo. One is very gentle and down to heart, one is very smart and doesn't pass stupid laws and the baba himself is an action man that knows how to implement and get things done. In fact Jonathan had more gains in ministries and government arms where he retained Obasanjo's appointees. Also the best moments of Nigeria ever since we started this sham we call democracy are either in Obasanjo's second term or Yaradua' and Jonathan's terms.
Now come to think of it, despite the differences in ethnicity and maybe religion, all these people (The ones alive today) are in the obidients' camp.
People say Obi has no good team, wait? are you underrating Aisha Yesufu an 'ordinary' woman that almost brought Nigeria to her knees via her role in end SARS protests? thanks to the bravery of people like her, police brutality went down and SARS got scrapped. Imagine if she is in power!
How can you even blame these people. Imagine that your father has a shop, then your community says the profits from your shop will be used to develop all of the community. That is bad enough right? now imagine that the whole community was actually developed, the community leaders lavishes the profits from your father's shop and the only place they forgot to develop was, guess where? your father's house.
We should understand that the only difference between a hero and a villain is the person that wrote the story. proscribing IPOB was never the right thing in my opinion, it is difficult to kill an idea shared by majority of the people, especially with force. It would be hard to convince an hungry man to stop stealing. But give him money and a job, for a first time, he will sit down and rethink his life decisions. Someone once told me hunger is a powerful motivator.

In this nation one man was caught stuffing stolen dollars into his 'babariga' the past two administrations have shown no interest in probing him and quiet interestingly, some judges are issuing orders that would prevent his state government from carrying out the investigation. Just imagine that! It means we currently run a country, where, with enough power, you can steal in public glare and made away with it. Not by running, but with the aid of the same systems that are meant to prosecute you. By the way, the majority of those monies comes from the region of people we now call terrorists. (Because when it comes to dollars we all know Nigeria has only one major source of earning forex)

In this country, one military chief decided to crush Boko Haram once and for all, he died fatally in a plane crash. Years after, the report about that crash has not been published. If it were published today, it would be a doctored one.

Look at disgraced Abba Kyari, one of those bad eggs in the police force that actually made it to the top, tortured a lot of people, broke many laws, killed many suspects yet he is roaming free today. But one silly allegation against air peace boss and buhari almost extradited him to the USA someone that is doing for Nigerian aviation what buhari himself could not do in his 8 years rule.

The reality is that the so called competent leaders are crooks with personal interests, an entirely new team is needed, a team that will gladly work with states men with moderately clean records like Baba Obasanjo and Jonathan, people who have fought for Nigeria directly or indirectly, like Yesufu and people who are ready to put regional agitations aside and fight for a better Nigeria. To hell with 'qualifications' even buhari ruled Nigeria with[b] 'Nepa certificate' people who say Obi has a third class are often found to be quiet poor themselves but are always watching and attending shows of musicians that are dropouts or never went to school at all. Does that now show you that being successful in something in life is not a factor of how educated you are at all?[/b] It's all passion!!

I do not imply that P. Obi can solve Nigeria's problems. At this point it might even be impossible to find a Messiah, the rot is now so deep that we could as well rename the country with it. The point is if we stand any chance of trying something different at all, then we have to push the difference with something entirely different. Obi himself made a mistake of abandoning Atiku who was willing to go only one term so Obi can become president. Certainly we cannot trust this agreement but I think an Atiku/Obi emergence would have saved this country a lot of shit right now.

So really, when these Igbos rant online. They've got the basis and valid reasons to. The only happy people in Nigeria are embezzlers and politicians. The private sector is dying and famine is ravaging the supposed giant of Africa that once exported agricultural produce more than most nations of the world.

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Investment / Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by civilserva: 6:59am On Jun 02
jayce232:

What does a bank staff diverting customers funds that ought to be reversed got to do with stopping USDT.NGN? They stopped usdt.ngn thinking it will help the naira, not because of this. Remember buhari stopped cryptto bank transaction far back as at January 2021?

The loot of 40 billion naira was finally converted to USDT through P2P. All those individuals and merchant accounts who sold USDT to the FBN fraudster in exchange for the looted naira will have their accounts restricted. Afterwards, they will refund all the naira paid to their accounts and lose all their USDT.
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