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IronGalaxy:
Eswatini and Lesotho are sovereign nations, common knowledge.. this is not an argument, let it rest

The Basotho eat the same foods, speak the same language, pray to the same god, dress the same way, have identical cultural practices and are genetically identical.

They are the same people. Your people shot and killed your people in that tavern.

IronGalaxy:
Lesotho and Eswatini are sovereign nations.. whether they move in and out of South Africa its irrelevant..there's no argument here..

The basotho in Lesotho and the Basotho in South Africa are one and the same thing.

This is common knowledge.

IronGalaxy:
Call it what you want, "demonization", xenophobia" Afrophobia" or any other buzzword.. it makes no difference. We won't be flooded with other countries burdens

Then make sure you get that 2/3rd majority to alter that constitution of yours or go to war. Either way you loose in the long run.

IronGalaxy:
2. I'm glad you know its foreigners with those ak47s.. so dont act suprised or play victim when we complain of foreign delinquency.

We have already dealt with this matter in the past. Lesotho and Eswatini are not "foreigners" by any stretch of your imagination. They move in and out of South Africa seemlessly and are pretty much extensions of your nationals in your country. Fact.

IronGalaxy:
3. Dude, you can hang around this "civility" point as much as you want.. we know your people, they are like Indians in their behavior.

We also know what is going on in South Africa and how you are "demonizing" as many African nationals as possible so this is no longer news.

Good luck with expelling these undesirable incompatibles from your midst.

IronGalaxy:
The same women are thrown into bushes without their lady parts in your Nigeria, the grandstanding wont work with me..

I am just stating facts here and asking if one trumps the other, that's all.

IronGalaxy:
Do you know who has access to thos Ak47s? Lesotho nationals..

Hahaha. You are so predictable. Ofcourse I know they are Lesotho nationals but you and I know your basotho are just like you. You are the same judging by your standards. We west Africans are very far from there.

IronGalaxy:
You're still butthurt by my civility comment I see. It is what it is.. .

No no, I am not just making sure your law abiding civilized Africans don't become like the rest of us.

IronGalaxy:
it certainly trumps the rampant macabre money ritual murders of your country

I guess that also trumps raping women and dumping their bodies on the road side or running into bars spraying AK47's at innocents.

IronGalaxy:
Unless you live under a rock, this is currently what's happening thr world over, we are being forced migrants we dont want.. we saw similar scenes in Ireland recently.. mass migration is a curse and my people are venting

Lets hope the venting doesn't turn in killings by these very civilized Africans.

It is very unfortunate that dire circumstances lead people away from their civility much like some other places in Africa no?

IronGalaxy:
Far more civilized than Nigerians yes

I guess honking really loud trumps bugulary, grand larceny and looting. I didn't know you guys like cold drink like that.

Okay o!

@irongalaxy, @Randdigital

See your people in action.

You are definitely a special civilized breed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbCoFXk5Pfk

IronGalaxy:
You and us aren't the same, no demonization here, just facts..

You and Chinese are not the same.

You and Indians are not the same.

Baseless arguments with a hidden agenda any grade 2 child could explain.

Keep the propaganda alive.

IronGalaxy:
Hiding behind " we don't like Nigerians" wont work with me..

The video i attached is of a Nigerian, expressing the very same things Im saying.. so doesnt he like you too?

Excessive honking does not in anyway say anything about anything my dear SA brather nor does the fact that some people eat dogs or alligators for that matter

You and your cohorts are reaching for arbitrary things to "demonize" the other and further justify your propaganda.

IronGalaxy:
You telling me such and such happens in another country doesnt means what exactly? You think i dont know?

You open defecate, India does too, so is Eritrea..
You eat dogs , and as you said the Chinese too and so forth ...

So the conclusion is the rest of the world are not like you guys in most ways and therefore..........

other than the fact that you don't like Nigerians, your arguments are baseless my friend.

IronGalaxy:
its your people that express shock in some of the mundane things South Africans do, like not over-honking the car's hoot.. its like when they land in SA they discover civilization for the forst time.. so don't blame me

Here's one of your own YouTubers butreesing my point, he says you thrive in chaos

https://m.youtube.com/watch? v=XSW3VS7UE90&pp=ygVDYmFudHUgZGlhcmllcyBibGFjayBzb3V0aCBhZnJpY2FucyBoYXZlIG1vcmUgaW4gY29tbW9uIHdpdGggd2hpdGVzIA%3D%3D

This is why when we drill down into these claims of yours they usually fall flat on their faces. You really need to stop spending a lot of your time on the internet and go see the real world for yourself.

India – Honking is extremely frequent and often expected. Drivers use it to signal lane changes, overtaking, or simply to make their presence known in chaotic traffic. Some trucks even display “Horn OK Please” to encourage it

Egypt – In cities like Cairo, honking is a “language” of its own: short beeps for presence, longer or repeated honks for urgency or frustration. It’s a primary tool for navigating dense, unpredictable traffic


Vietnam – In Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City, honking is common due to heavy motorbike and scooter traffic. It’s used to alert others in narrow streets or when overtaking

Italy – While not as constant as in India, honking is used more often than in most European countries, often as a greeting, to signal “I’m here,” or to express frustration

Mexico – In some urban areas, honking is part of everyday road expression, used to request right of way or announce presence

Turkey – Honking is frequent, often to express impatience, greet other drivers, or warn of danger

Parts of North Africa – Beyond Egypt, in other North African countries, the horn is a continuous communication tool between drivers


Some Latin American countries – In certain regions, horns are used as social signals rather than aggression, and honking is more accepted in daily driving .

IronGalaxy:
We are clearly not the same people, we are not conditioned the same,

What are you basing this of off. Civility?

IronGalaxy:
you have your YouTubers expressing shock that South Africans can stand long hours on queues in an orderly manner.. that's just one example of the "great devide"

Nigerians stand in long lines as well at the airports on arrival, when boarding buses, at banks, etc.

You need to travel more.

IronGalaxy:
it butresses nothing.. look at African ballers that play in Europe, they mostly date or marry women from the countries they play in.. because of the dating pool available.. unless they specifically prefer their own back home..

No no no, they marry these "type" of women to further elevate their social statuses in countries with such racial hierachical structures.

IronGalaxy:
What are you even saying? You're all over the place

Do you think you are the only SA pushing the "Nigerians eat dog and ergo we are better than them" narrative?

APOPTOSIS:
For the First time, almost the whole world is standing against a country....SOUTH AFRICA

Its a shame my brother. I remember the good ol days when we cheered from all teams from the continent.

IronGalaxy:
"confidence" means shht. What are your hypocritical governments doing?

If we are confident. We don't need to act.

We have seen your peoples actions for the past 20+ years and have seen what happens. No confidence.

IronGalaxy:
Lol.. if you're "confident" of the UKs ability to contain and control immigration riots .why are the riots in Belfast far worse than in South Africa then? The riots have gotten out hand with the UK watching.. try another excuse

We continue to be confident in the actions of the UK to control these riots as compared to the rainbow nation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUKaUFiqkGE

IronGalaxy:
2. BS.. your immigrants are in the firing line and in danger, so why are your governments quiet and not doing or saying anything? Danger is danger no matter where it happens. The outrage is selective and you know it.

Go watch your group stage match my friend. You are failing in this argument.

IronGalaxy:
No justification here, just pointing out yet more hypocrisy from you African people and your governments..

Hypocrisy has been addressed.

IronGalaxy:
1. Neither do South African government condone violence of any kind, various South African officials have come out saying this

The words are coming out but we see NO ACTION. Empty words which is why unsafe people are self repatriating.

IronGalaxy:
2. Not an African issue? Is it? So why are African migrants on the receiving end then? How did these riots start? Wasn't a Sudanese man caught trying to behead an Irishman on the street in broad daylight? Why are houses of Nigerians, Ghanians. etc torched if this is not an "African issue"?

Sentiments were high by a "Sikh" man who killed a young man. Tensions escalated in English loyalist far righters in Belfast when an "African Muslim" attacked another white man.

Its a racial issue, Mfethu.

IronGalaxy:
3. Always the victim Seppuku.. you claim it's racism, but wasnt a Sudanese African caught doing wrong in other country? Always avoiding accountability.. much like us, the South Africans, the anger of the Irish has been brewing for a while.. what you see now in the culmination of that anger

You are correct that far right sentiments and nationalism is brewing in South Africa for sure but yours is born out of Afrophobia and theirs by racism. We know what the Europeans have done, we are beginning to Learn what the Saffers are capable of as well to people they deem as outsiders.

IronGalaxy:
4. The same Africans maltreat South Africans in their own country then play victim when called out.. the victim angle is tired

Name one Nigerian on the news who has been accused of Killing a South African. The maltreatment you are speaking off is the bad mouthing you hear online about how South AFricans are Lazy. Nothing more.

IronGalaxy:
The question im asking is why are there no planes sent by your government to go rescue Nigerians and other African nationals from the riots??

Because we are confident the governments of those countries have a handle on the situation and your's doesn't. We didn't send airplanes on the first day of your riots. We send them after your Presidents speech.

donleo92:
God forgive me oooh

I be Africa, but right now I no fit support South Africa

Bros I dey behind you. Not now maybe next World cup, if they qualify.

Olamideayomide:
MTN unah well done

At least that will boost their moral small

Welcome to Nigeria the struggle continues my people

100,000 naira na moral booster.

They are doing it so we don't retaliate against them.

IronGalaxy:
When is your government sending planes to fetch your countrymen from Belfast, Ireland, seeing the Irish are torching homes of immigrants, their cars, belongings etc..? Or is this not "xenophobia"? Where is the outrage Seppuku? The silence is defeaning

Trying to justify your bad acts by pointing out the bad acts of another set of people. SMH

Well let me point out the differences so you understand the psychology behind the disappointment of real African people against South Africans.

1. The UK government does not condone nor support the acts being perpetrated by mischief makers and has come out VERY Vehemently to condemn it and TAKE ACTION.

2. It's a European issue and not an African issue.

3. Its also a racial issue more so than an immigrant issue as we understand the antecedents of European people towards Africans.

4. It is embarassing to see a fellow African maltreating another the way it is demonstrated in your young so called democracy and echoes of things that have happened on the continent that we are trying to move past.

IronGalaxy:
hahaha..lame.. im on this site legally.. at least you know how south africans feel too.. .

So are a good number of Migrants/refugees who were granted papers by your home affairs office.

IronGalaxy:
Well, I dont care what you want either..

At least you know how some migrants feel too.

Eteka1:
yet they are actually two different ethnic groups.

I actually think the confidence interval is somewhere at 90% in terms of their similarities in language, culture, cuisine and genetics.

As stated they have the right to self determine as a different "ethnic" group but in terms of the above characteristics they are the same people.

This is the same case as the Urhobo and the Isoko.

An Ikwere man's origin is Igbo. The measure of the differences have not diverged to a less than 50% change to consider them truly "distinct".

This does not however restrict their right to be recognized as an ethnic group of their own.

I and my brother are two distinct humans but our origins "ARE" the same at a greater than 50% confidence interval.

Eteka1:
Efik and Ibibio are similar up to 85%. So can you say an Ibibio person is an Efik or vice versa?

With a confidence interval of 85% I would say yes. It is not insulting to assume they are practically the same people.

Eteka1:
go and watch the interview before you rush to crucify. He acknowledged that they share some similarities in language but that doesn't mean they are now Igbo.

They share more than just language similarities my dear friend. Ikwerre is an Igbo dialect. Any linguist will confirm that to you.

Linguistics are a strong indicator of cultural, religious, ethnic and genetics ties.

Case in point. The Xhosa and Zulu tribes have languages that are to some extent mutually intelligible in comparison to All the igbo dialects that exist.

The each recognize their differences but are in consensus of their united Origin stemming from the Nguni language. There is no confusion there.

This is the same case with the Ikwerre question. It remains a dialect of the largre Igbo language regardless of the differing dialects that exist amongst the igbos in general.

The Ikwerre have every right to self actualize as a distinct group from the other unified Igbo groups however they are for all intent and purpose Igbo in origin.