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Is that so? Ok

I will comment later

Mumu Bayo Onanuga, over to you!

When are you arresting the perpetrators and teaching them a lesson?

I just learnt from VDM yesterday that the word "STUPID" is not abusive.

APC government is a wicked and STUPID government!!!
BAYO ONANUGA IS A STUPID MAN!!!

Peter Obi is running away from primaries........!

Na the primaries be this?

Do electronic transmission of results........!

There is no network coverage in Nigeria.

It is a pity.

Who let the Dog out!

I'm pissed with this country!

seunmsg:
Of course, that’s what he’s known for. Jumping around like a prostitute as usual. No decency. No ideal. No principle. Just sheer desperation for power. Spits.

Good news, if it is true!

APC and propaganda na 5 & 5!!!

May God punish you and your miserable 2nd term victory trash.

If you continue to mock the dead and their loved ones who are grieving, I bet u that u will never live to see that election.

So much insensitivity in people!
People are kpaing, and u are talking about winning an election? God punish u there!

Willy2025:
This is getting serious about this time of the year. Jos North has always been a hot bed of violence between the Plateau indigenous people and the Hausa/Fulanis. This is a sponsored violence just when everything is getting set for the 2nd term victory of PBAT. The President should not hesitate to deploy the military might to put an end to all these orgy of violence. I know that food is done P.Obi and his 2k online data boys. They surely capitalise on this.

Your days of sorrow and crying is fast approaching!

You will languish in grieve and bitterness soon for promoting evil

yarimo:
Obi must not decamp because of primaries election in ADC, he must participate in primaries election with ATIKU, ameachi and others. Makinde next time know you mate in politics. WIKE is ahead of you politically

Only the poor masses will still suffer it.

All the big boys in the "City Boys Movement" and their family members will never come to that hospital during the time of the strike.

Now ask yourself, where will you stand after 2027?

Those are the people benefiting from his government. What about you?

Do you believe that PO will do better as a President? If yes, fight for your interest!

OriOko88:
I don't think Obi has any strategy in his armory to defeat Tinubu,other than all these online rhetorics.

Even many of his south Eastern governors and celebrities are not on the same page with him. Tinubu has cornered all of them.

Obi is on a Long thinggg

A man without a single dignity.

Tinubu is getting ready with all rigging tactics for 2027.

Unfortunately, the masses are not even ready for food leadership.

You used your gutter mouth to say he will be attacked if he visits Edo again.

He visited and he was attacked.

Shame on your, illiterate Governor

I gave you facts, you're calling me a poor man

I'm not a poor man, i thought i was talking to someone sensible enough to engage in a conversation.
I'm in a sane country and living well. We only care for a better Nigeria.

Learn how but to insult people when engaging in meaningful conversation

Burob:
Mr man I do not deal on I hearsay, the case reached The Supreme Court of Nigeria, your highest court has ruled, any poor man I hearsay na gist, story of the beer parlor.

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Yes!
Many people claimed that what they signed was not what was declared, and hence the Supreme Court said that the IREV was a mere viewing portal and not justiciable. That brought about the pictures below

Let's be sincere with ourselves. Even polling agents are compromised by the ruling party in the area or by the "Big man" in the area.

I have been a part of the Nigerian Election as an Adhoc staff since 2015 till 2023! I am in a position to tell you exactly what happens.

We are talking out not because of BAT or PO, we are talking about the right thing to be done because we might be on the ballot tomorrow at any level.

The justice we refused to address today will hunt us tomorrow.

Burob:
The result sheets are signed by all the party agents & are given a copy, or they can use their phones to take pictures of the result sheets, did anyone in the last general election claim that what was transmitted to the Eyeneck HQ was a different result sheet than the one signed by their party agents?

I'm loving this discussion and let's still keep it respectful.

1. The illustration you put about Elon Musk and his fears about electronic voting does not apply to us at all. Nigeria has, and practice manual voting system (aside from accreditation which is semi manual) and I'm ok with that completely. No body is debating it.

2. Where the problem starts is after voting, during collation, once the voters has gone. The form EC8A(if i mentioned it right). At times, the Preciding officer is not given the original form. Meaning that the whole process at the polling boot was a jamboree. At times these forms are altered at the collation center. This is no longer an election(what happened in Rivers State Presidential Elections 2023).

3. The demand is that those forms should be sent to the IREV portal after voting and counting have been concluded there at the polling boot. Those forms are not programmatically filled but manually filled and signed without any form of alterations.

4. Another demand is that those forms uploaded right from the piling boots should be used in court as evidence since everyone has it. It should be made justiciable!

5. The big problem is that "Improvisor" embedded in the clause. On no account should it suffice. No matter where the polling boot is, updated results are kept on queue in the BVAS until there's enough network to upload it. After elections, the card readers are returned to the LGA where there's definitely network. This happens before 5hrs max after elections are concluded. Meaning that before WARD collation starts, these results are already on the IREV portal.

Finally, when you admit an improvisor clause, the Nigerian politicians i know will go straight to jettison the original results from the polling units and write their own result by themselves after compromising the collation officers.

I hope I'm able to clear the point now


[quote author=Burob post=138499145]Quite obviously u are oblivious to what is being discussed?

Electronic transmission is allowed, there is a clause that says if for any reason the results cannot be transmitted electronically, the Eyeneck in their discretion can be done manually.

The deluded ones say no, if it is not done electronically, then the results should be discarded.

.@elonmusk in PA: US elections need paper ballots, hand-counting, in-person voting and voter ID:

"I'm a technologist. I know a lot about computers, and I'm, like, the last thing I would do is trust a computer program. Because it's just too easy to hack."

"It's too easy to add… pic.twitter.com/HDxNi7DLLs

— Western Lensman (@WesternLensman) October 17, 2024

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Bring it up Bro. No trolling, let's clear each other here!

We're not talking of electronic voting here, we're only asking for the result to be transmitted. To protect the integrity of the result.

If what i said is wrong correct me.
We all want a better nation!

Burob:
Stop the disgrace, u don’t know what u are implying.

Ask questions about things you are ignorant of before coming out here to disgrace your village people.

I worked as a RATEC officer during the last election, and so I can tell you more about the BVAS machine.

The election results, when uploaded to the machine does not necessarily need to hit the IREV immediately. It can be in the queue and will hit the IREV once it gets a network connection.

Meanwhile, network mapping was done in 2023, and the result published says that the areas without network are less than 3%.
Does that now make sense to you?

ChukwuObe:
But why do we have so many dumb people in this country? Any law without a provision if the clause fails is bound to cause and create chaos. Imagine there is no network in Obi's polling unit, will they be happy if the results of the votes are not counted just because the e-transmission is not possible? What happens if some people spend lots of money to buy signal jamming equipment and deploy it in their opponent's region to prevent e-transmission, will they not be crying if the results are voided? Please use your brain. Imagine if card reader was made mandatory when Jonathan biometrics could not be captures, would he have voted without manual option?

Why is the discussion always centered on PO?

I expect you guys to talk more of how intelligent BAT is!

helinues:
Nobody is ready to massage anyone's egos again. Say it the way it is. Their worst can't pass the as usual insult which won't change a thing

Peter Obi is too dull to be Nigeria president . There is nothing clever about all his political moves

Infact, he attracted his likes as supporters. Engaging with some of them might kill your intellectual reasoning

I spit on you all supporters of Evil.

Are all these attacks actually true and Nigerians are just quiet waiting for the next victim?

Nigerians are dying in numbers, Politicians are busy defecting to APC. It's a pity

As copied directly from the WhatsApp group chat. KPI met! 30k for the month secured

yarimo:
Politically kwankwaso is greater than peter obi, kwankwaso is too big to be obi vice presidential candidate

I WILL VOTE PETER OBI!!!

Peterobiisathie:
I will not vote for Peter Obi reason 👇🏾👇🏾👇🏾👇🏾

Good!

The image you sited shows people in front of a Grotto praying...... Are they praying to the image?

Now, in our day to day activities, we bow, kneel before and prostate to humans, our superiors or those in authority. Do you also find those gestures disturbing?

In Catholic Church, there's what we call sacramentals. "... It's an outward sign of inward grace" They are not worshipped but they are pointers that lead us to God whom we worship.

There are more things to discuss about this but making the write-up too lengthy might become boring

MakeWeTalk:
Catholics bow B4 images that is specifically forbidden by God.

Good!

Let's make it more conversational than confrontational for learning purposes.

*CATHOLICS DON'T WORSHIP IMAGES*

If you have any evidence to proof me wrong, you can bring it up.

Any image you see in our churches or houses are merely symbolical.
Images of Mary and saints are there for us to look up to them, emulate the way they lived their lives and ask them to *INTERCEDE* for us.

When you look at the pictures we hang in our homes, those pictures are not the person but it helps us think or remember the person. It's not about the image but what it represents.

Catholics don't *WORSHIP* images.

BILLSMAN:
Your response is so shallow. He was asking you why you pray to Mary for help and bow to worship moulded and crafted things?
You talk about portrait in the village. Many of such portraits can be so dusty and some even broken cos who cares? We don't worship our grandparents, we may put their portrait were we can still remember them for as long as it last and if it wears out, life goes on.
So how is that related

Nice question.

But if I may ask u......what is your late grandfather's framed portrait doing in your parlour in the village?

Where is it in the bible that you should frame ur weeding picture and place it in your sitting room and your children keep looking at it when u must have passed away in the future?

Let's start from here...

muyico:
Less concern
I'm not member!
But my question to you
Why moulding statu of Jesus Christ and Mary ?? Still worship it like idol worshipper doing?? Where in d Bible can you quote it for me?? Why begging Mary to help you beg Jesus Christ to forgive you?? Alot atrocities baffling in that church