KidStranglehold:
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Watsup my Nairaland brothers and sisters. First I want to note that this is NOT A BEAUTY THREAD. AGAIN THIS IS NOT A BEAUTY THREAD!

Anyways...

This thread is not only to celebrate the great African diversity, but to show people just how diverse African are...Most people believe Africans have only ONE look and that they cannot vary in looks. I have decided to make this thread because many people think like that. Many people think that there is only one TRUE African look or the 'True Negroid'. But is there a 'True Caucasoid'? Do you see the double standard? European can have many different looks, but the African people can't? Africans are the oldest people on this planet and from picture I posted, the continent of Africa is bigger than most countries and continents. So of course Africans will vary in looks, but of course people are denial of this. Even other people of African descent are ignorant about this.

Now I am not denying that certain looks can be due to mixture. I am not denying that at all. I know some African populations have admixture with non Africans. But to say the African diversity is SOLELY due to mixture with outside people is incorrect. It should be known that different environments, diets, climates,etc due in fact play a role in the diversity of different phenotype.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1855137/
http://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpage/phenotypic-range-of-gene-expression-environmental-influence-581

Again African is a continent with many climates/environments.


Africa is also the only continent with two temperate zones...


Again it shouldn't be surprised that Africans are the most diverse, since its been proven that they are the oldest human beings(homo sapiens).

Also it should be noted that light skinned or lighter toned(not to be confused with pale skin) Africans have been present all throughour the history of movement of peoples within the continent pre European incursions and the adaptations/mutations are already prevalent in people of African descent as a consequence of melanin deficiencies which cause the hair, the eyes and the skin color to loose pigmentation( this is not albinism by the way which is an extreme form of this mutation). This has been attributed to possible diet patterns or breeding patterns. Loose hair, curly hair, light skin, narrow noses or lighter hair are all native to Africa... This has already been proven.

Different region/climates around Africa, the people have different looks. But most still have a tropical body plan/hot adapted even in north Africa.
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Again it should be noted that wavy/loose hair(not be to confused with European type hair), narrow noses, lighter toned skin evolved in certain parts of Africa.

Also...

Different features among Africans,
particularly EAST AFRICANS, like
narrow noses are not due to different
"race" mixes but are part of the built-in
physical diversity and variation of
African peoples.
Narrow noses appear in
the oldest African populations for
example, in Kenya's Gamble Cave
complex. East Africans like [b]Somalians or
Kenyans do not need any outside race
"mix" or migration to make them look
the way they do.[/b]

QUOTE(s):
".. all their features can be found in
several living populations of East Africa,
like the Tutsi of Rwanda and Burundi,
who are very dark skinned and differ
greatly from Europeans in a number of
body proportions.. There is every reason
to believe that they are ancestral to the
living 'Elongated East Africans'. Neither
of these populations, fossil and modern,
should be considered to be closely
related to the populations of Europe and
western Asia.. In skin colour, the Tutsi
are darker than the Hutu, in the reverse
direction to that leading to the
caucasoids. Lip thickness provides a
similar case: on an average the lips of the
Tutsi are thicker than those of the Hutu."
[Jean Hiernaux, The People of Africa
(1975), pgs 42-43, 62-63)

"In sub-Saharan Africa, many
anthropological characters show a wide
range of population means or
frequencies. In some of them, the whole
world range is covered in the
sub-continent. Here live the shortest and
the tallest human populations, the one
with the highest and the one with the
lowest nose, the one with the thickest
and the one with the thinnest lips in the
world. In this area, the range of the
average nose widths covers 92 per cent
of the world range: only a narrow range
of extremely low means are absent from
the African record. Means for head
diameters cover about 80 per cent of the
world range; 60 per cent is the
corresponding value for a variable once
cherished by physical anthropologists,
the cephalic index, or ratio of the head
width to head length expressed as a
percentage....."
- Jean Hiernaux, "The People of Africa"
1975 p.53, 54

"....inhabitants of East Africa right on the
equator have appreciably longer,
narrower, and higher noses than people
in the Congo at the same latitude. A
former generation of anthropologists
used to explain this paradox by invoking
an invasion by an itinerant "white"
population from the Mediterranean area,
although this solution raised more
problems than it solved since the East
Africans in question include some of the
blackest people in the world with
characteristically wooly hair and a body
build unique among the world's
populations for its extreme linearity and
height.... The relatively long noses of
East Africa become explicable then when
one realizes that much of the area is
extremely dry for parts of the year." (C.
Loring Brace, "Nonracial Approach
Towards Human Diversity," cited in The
Concept of Race, Edited by Ashley
Montagu, The Free Press, 1980, pp.
135-136, 138)

"The role of tall, linearly built
populations in eastern Africa's prehistory
has always been debated. Traditionally,
they are viewed as late migrants into the
area. But as there is better
palaeoanthropological and linguistic
documentation for the earlier presence of
these populations than for any other
group in eastern Africa, it is far more
likely that they are indigenous eastern
Africans. ... prehistoric linear populations
show resemblances to both Upper
Pleistocene eastern African fossils and
present-day, non-Bantu-speaking groups
in eastern Africa, with minor differences
stemming from changes in overall
robusticity of the dentition and skeleton.
This suggests a longstanding tradition of
linear populations in eastern Africa,
contributing to the indigenous
development of cultural and biological
diversity from the Pleistocene up to the
present."
(L . A . SCHEPARTZ, "Who were the
later Pleistocene eastern Africans?" The
African Archaeological Review, 6
(1988), pp. 57- 72)


Here is Sarah Tiskoff on adaptation...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX-_6vhctUc

And here is famed anthropologist S.O.Y Keita on African diversity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4sbLY6rxxg

Note:African diasporians are also included in this thread.

dont be talking about somalis,.....lol at kenyans....the only kenyans who look somali are the somali kenyans in northern kenya....i like how kenyans use somalis to say they look good since kenya is a nationality and not an ethnicity....lmao.....untill a somali or ethiopian tells them that kenyans are negroids who got negroid features...]]]



stop mentioning my people forever.....you cant hide behind our beauty by calling us africans...you ugly monkeys......dont ever mention somalia in ur afrocentric philosophy that cant stand the light to whites....you only run after us to prove to whites that africa has a history........


ugly monkeys

swahili people speak a mix of arabic cause they were slaves and those who became muslim were let go.....lol


dervish state was fighting the british till independence......you need to learn history son.


why you positng different negroids.....as if they are differnt or diverse......look at all those weave wearings hoooes next to mandela lol

have you not seen that all those people you post are ugly........way to prove a point......dont be using no north africans or horn africans......lol........the rest look ugly in africa without the horn and north.

cleopatra wasnt black and egypt wasnt either

KidStranglehold:

Okay then the same can be said for...
Mali
Nigeria
Senegal
Kenya
Angola(Kongo)
Etc

They had many different Kingdoms/Empires. You can say they were 'occupied'. And Somalia was colonized because parts of Somaliawas given to Ethiopia. As for slavery, Mansa Musa tool many Ethiopian slave women.

Now stop dereailing my thread or I'm reporting you. Im not in the mood.

kenya was slaves for somalis they had no empires....arabs owned them.....and all those west african countries couldnt stop europeans from enslaving them.....the name of those coutries are made up shid......but somalis chose the country of their name......and were never enslaved and never met europeans till 100 years ago.

KidStranglehold: @ezotik

Lol...I don't even know the guy.

@somalia5

When did I ever mention black? :/

And I'm pretty sure both horn(excluding Ethiopia) and north Africa were colonized. And the first country to actually gain its independence was Ghana.

dude somalia colonization is technically occumpation since there were no europeans till the 1900's, whose doing colonization in the 1900's......and present day somalia was born in 1960 but before that we were many different empires.....same as ethiopia it was abyssinia before it became ethiopia....ghana wasnt even a country till the mid 1900's. somalis calling themselves somalis were governing themselves for more than 1400 years.

KidStranglehold: @ezotik

Lol...I don't even know the guy.

@somalia5

When did I ever mention black? :/

you imply that african means black like so many negroids do......by saying their is no one black look what do you think your saying.....africans in subsahran except for the horn look the same........and africa doesnt mean the same thing it means to negroids as it means to north africans and horners.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC11zmX_srU

africa doesnt mean black u idiiooot


and north africans and horn africans are not negroid and enslaved u negroids


so stop talkin about us as if we africa= black


without north africa and horners u guys are all a bunch of gorillas and everyone knows that

KidStranglehold:

^^^I disagree with that chart. Berbers should not be grouped in as 'Caucasoid'. Berbers are not one monolithic group and most have majority African genes.



Not only that, but most are not European looking anyways...

Siwa Berbers(original Berbers):

lol, somalia cluster with berbers N arabs, before negroids thats a fact all u can do is post graphs u made at home without any links

dude am somali, ask kails, sybellah ive talked to both on the phone


also go to somalinet.com to see how somalis feel about negroids- lol


i guess some people need sn excuse to believe why somalis hate them- so they say am white lol

even thou ive been talkin in af somali to other somalis on here

romania we need links to ur so called maps, as they are from afrocentric sites

you should leave cultures u know nothing about, u dont even kno ur own culture


amahara and tigrey are recent arrivals from middle east, while somalis are more admixture. It was cushitcs who rules horn of africa, amahara and are not cushitic but semetic their arab blood is 65 percent while somalis is 54 percent.


i wish other ethis and somalis were here, do u even know what habesha means? thats what amahara and tigrey call themselves, what an idioot

romania5:

u have slayed urself looool

go check somalis who did 23and me genetic tests, they have alot arabs

why do ethiopians speak semetic languages, why so many ethiopian jews?

some blacks are desperate to hang on to culture so much they claim anything lol

Somalis are treated differently, people call as Ayraabs. Especially blacks, cause the women wear hijabs, their are alot fights between blacks and somalis, the local news media calls us somali everytime their is a terrorist attack, when somali president comes to america, when we go to airport. cause our culture is very very different, even the mayor of our city comes to our somali independence day party, somalis have the highest percentage of those who are at my university more than blacks.


even white racists tell us we are mixed mongrels. So no one confuses us for blacks ever

PAPA AFRICA: so you guys come from arabs?

we are mixed with arabs as aksum controlled southern arabia for hundreds of years, arabs are considered caucasion.

PAPA AFRICA: another white man also said horners are a arab subgroup

yet blacks run after and try to claim somalis/ethiopians lmao


by the way scientifically somalis are labeled as caucasions

you mean the white man who labeled somalis/ethiopians as dark caucasions so they can feel good about our civilization and credit for it. they labeled us caucasion cause they said our feautures and history are to advanced and so we are whites who got dark. Even thou our dna shows more than 50 arab/berber

PAPA AFRICA: Egyptians are direct decendents of atlantians. Somalis? No.

well all the evidence shows that, language, trade, somalia was called puntland which means land of gods in ancient egyptian, but very few somalia even care for ancient egypt cause they were pagans

meanwhile the negroid slaves who had nothing to do with ancient egypt talk about it all the time. Look at nubians they look exactly like somalis and ethiopians, and they speak a language close to cushitic

CAMEROONPRIDE: keep dreaming, Kenya created that state because they don't want to mingle with you and your backwardness, isn't funny that the pseudo enslaved, feed ,cloth you and enter in your country anyhow? Shag your females etc?

Northern kenya is called NFD and it is one part of the 5 regions inhabited by somalis that is represented by the 5 sides star on our flag. Kenyans have been enslaved by arabs and somalis, portugese for over 1000 yrs. Even kenyans are ashamed of this, and will run the other way, all of kenyas economy is based in easlieigh cause of all the somali buisness, the president of kenya even buys his suits from a somali, before somalia came to nairobi, indians litterly owned kenyans economically over charging them.

CAMEROONPRIDE: Somalian are refugees in kenya they shag your female when they beg for bag of rice, I mean how dare you insult a country., talk less about your Kenyan masters?

you kno so little, the somali refugees are in northern kenya which is somali state in kenya, that region is 99 percent somali, Kenyans were slaves to somalis since 1930s, lmao, till the italians freed them

^ whats funny is how west africans follow islam and donteven kno whats in the religion lmao

^ the guy who wrote that one is black afrocentric and he even admits somalis were related to ancient egypt. And his try to claim somalis by callin them black so negroids can claim egypt lol

Houston believed the Cushite civilization to be the motherland of humanity. The Cushite civilization did exist, although it was not as ancient as Egypt, and certainly not the origin of all culture. Nevertheless, the Cushites were the earliest known Black African civilization. Reaching its peak between 1750 and 1500 B.C.E., and lasting until the fourth century C.E., the Cushite empire occupied what is now the Sudan, with its capital at Meroe on the Nile. At their high point, Cushites even conquered and ruled ancient Egypt from 750-650 B.C.E. Because of their geographical isolation, they had nowhere near the impact on other parts of the world that Houston attributed them. The Cushites were heavily influenced by the older Egypt culture, rather than the other way around. They left behind fields of hundreds of small steep-angled burial pyramids, the design of which was borrowed from Egypt and scaled down.

PAPA AFRICA: you're drunk alex.

well i guess its ironic when the quran is in arabic and all the people who can read arabic cover their hair but those who dont refuse even thou they have ugliest hair.

Houston believed the Cushite civilization to be the motherland of humanity. The Cushite civilization did exist, although it was not as ancient as Egypt, and certainly not the origin of all culture. Nevertheless, the Cushites were the earliest known Black African civilization. Reaching its peak between 1750 and 1500 B.C.E., and lasting until the fourth century C.E., the Cushite empire occupied what is now the Sudan, with its capital at Meroe on the Nile. At their high point, Cushites even conquered and ruled ancient Egypt from 750-650 B.C.E. Because of their geographical isolation, they had nowhere near the impact on other parts of the world that Houston attributed them. The Cushites were heavily influenced by the older Egypt culture, rather than the other way around. They left behind fields of hundreds of small steep-angled burial pyramids, the design of which was borrowed from Egypt and scaled down.