₦airaland Forum

Ogbuefi2020:
ABA city is larger than kano city, the huge kano population is not in kano city but very polygamous rural villages

Drunk clown

Kano urban areas alone covers 251km unlike aba total size of 72km

Ogbuefi2020:
so northwest will chose zulum vp instead of tambuwal presidency ？who sound like a clown now ？

so who made zulum vp ?clown

Ogbuefi2020:
you underrate the level of political awareness in the north

North dont play clannish politics like east.

If ikpeazu and ugwanyi were govs in core north they will not return them as gov and their party will loose election

E.g adamwa,bauchi

Ogbuefi2020:
the huge huge votes you see in the north come from those poverty infested villages , the nothern middle class city dwellers are a minority population iin the north

not really if you check the demographics of voting populations in north majority comes from metropolitan areas e.g kano,kaduna e.t.c
Majority of street beggars, shoemakers e.t.c re in metro areas not villages

Ogbuefi2020:
as long a northwest candidate is not apc flag bearer just forget those votes

sorry you re a clown.
Is APC not going to field a northerner as vp?

HIGHESTPOPORI:
Thats why I said Buhari is not on ballot and even Buhari goodwill has reduced.People has seen he is even worse

Buhari still have influence to play in 2023 just like obj did in 2007.
Don't let sensational news headlines decieve you, majority of the insecurities re happening in far remote villages due to underdevelopment. It is easy to target them
North still remain the major beneficiary in buhari govt in terms of economic policies and infrastructural development

Ogbuefi2020:
will buhari contest in 2023？ ayam not understanding

yeah buhari is contesting in 2023 to handover to his successor in APC.

Ogbuefi2020:
pdp structures is very much intact in the north , apc is just riding on buhari cult like follwership wich will no longer be a factor in 2023

bro don't let anybody decieve you pdp structure in north is dead.

PDP needs sokoto, kano,kastina,kaduna,kebbi, borno,zamfara to stand a chance unfortunately nobody can deliver this state to them in north. Those states re firmly in the hands of APC power brokers in North.

For El rufai to break christain/muslim tradition in kaduna and got away with it .you can as well forget pdp winning the state in his existence


If apga still depends on ojukwu factor to win election after his death APC will forever benefit from buhari political structure when he is alive and dead.

PaChukwudi44:
The presidential candidate chosen will determine the region the parties control.

pa shukudi that's not how it works.
Political structure is what delivers for party . popularity of candidate is just added bonus.

If yardua and gej didn't inherit a good political structure from obj they wouldn't have beaten Buhari in 2007 and 2011.

Gej lost pdp north caucus politcal structure thats why he lost.

PDP is yet to recover the political structure till date

HIGHESTPOPORI:
Lol, a Kwankwaso or Tambuwal would sweep the North as far Buhari is not on ballot.

No politician in north can better buhari electoral performance not even el rufai.
Buhari built political structure he didn't inherit from any party.
Tambuwal,atiku,kwankaso rely on pdp political structure to win which is not in existence in core north politics.

The last time atiku contest in election with unpopular party he got only 3 m votes.

While buhari has been doing avergage of 10 million votes with unpopular party.

JaroMan:
How many zones was PDP controlling prior to the formation of APC?
This how informed you are.

pdp was only controlling south east and south south prior 2015 election.

Northern PDP caucus have already collapsed their political structure into APC merger.

In 2023 pdp is not getting APC northern caucus political structure so they can stop dreaming

vicdom:
You are just delusional, as wear. How many governors did PDP have in the north before 2015 election and how many states did PDP win?? Lol... PDP had over 14 governors while APC had just about 3 or 4. Remember what happened, PDP only managed to win only Taraba state, that's 1 out of 19 Northern states. Dont worry, una go cry well well later

Delusional nyamiri 2015 political scenario is nothing compared to 2023.
There was clamour for power to return to North in 2015.
The northern pdp caucus already collapsed their structure into apc while others stayed back to work against the party

In 2023 there is clamour for power to return to South which the ruling party have aligned to.

PDP swim against the tide in 2015 there were drowned
PDP will swim against the tide in 2023 they will be eventually buried.

seunmsg:
I really don’t get why they can’t see this obvious and straightforward truth. The OP is even fantasizing about PDP giving the VP slot to the SE despite what transpired at the convention where no single Igbo leader was able to influence anything.

Only an unserious political party will put a SE candidate on the ballot either as presidential or vice presidential candidate in 2023. With the help of Ipob, the zone no longer brings anything to the voting table. I really pity my SE folks, they have been reduced into writing illogical political permutation on Nairaland.

the permutations is 100% based on hallucination or wishful thinking of a defeated soul.
They wish it can go their way unfortunately it is not likely and the only way to make themselves feel good is to open numerous thread for false hope

HIGHESTPOPORI:
Apc would win in your dreams, there is no apc after Buhari

nyamiri apc is just a banner for
ACN and CPC alliance both parties have their root planted in their region south west and North west region.even at the event of APC colapse which is unlikey pdp wont still stand chance in south west and North west politics
Except buhari and Tinubu dies.

Penguin2:
You must have mistaken my article to mean me begging APC to zone its ticket to Southeast. Far from that dear brother.

I was just laying bare the reality that APC finds itself in right now.

Nothing is cast in stone, but you can’t be too hopeful that a Tinubu or an Osinbajo would garner more votes in the north than an Atiku or a Tambuwal.

And there’s no way the votes of the entire Southwest would come close to the votes of Southsouth and Southeast combined.

We have not put into consideration the fact that states like Oyo that has PDP governor might split its votes.

Add the fact that almost half of Lagos voters are Igbos.

Plus that Ondo has always tilted towards PDP.

Now where will the Southwest candidate get the numbers?

Don’t be emotional, try to be practical, pragmatic and realistic.

ipob bureau of statistics

Almost half of lagos re igbos.

South east votes?? APC and Pdp re not even considering south east votes in permutations.
AfghanEASTERN has been forgotten since ipob madness.

PDP have no political structure in North just a wishful political gamble of North voting their own.

Out of 19 northern states pdp have 4 govs while Apc has 15.
Delusional nyamiris believe 4 govs will beat 15 govs in the game of Numbers

mrvitalis:
Finally someone with sense I have said it before 2023 is PDP to lose just like 2019 if they like let them flop again

APC is confused on what next to do honestly

delusional nyamiri

If pdp field tambuwal who has been secretly chosen by the govs and kwankaso as vp they will be thoroughly trashed.

APC controls 4 regions
South west
North west
North east
North central

But delusional ipob yoot think pdp can win 2023 with SS and SE

Leverage2021:
It's common sense really

Pdp would field atiku, atiku has the money for election and he has northern support.

The entire southern pdp understands they don't have a candidate to go south vs south with apc (and this is simply because pdp politicians don't do eye service slavery to the north like tinubu Southwest apc does)

So I see no reason some deluded persons keep saying to igbos go to pdp and harvest, the south is ok with atiku (he is liberal, which is most important)

I believe apc would be massively pressured at last to go to zone to south west

Buhari and Bumi would not go with tinubu, they may ask him to support osinbajo or they find a neural Yoruba person.

But if tinubu forces his way on them, I see buhari and his group supporting atiku

Don't forget it's one north, shifting power block and realliging

Pdp govs have move on from Atiku. His chances of competing is in Apga.
I know atiku is so desperate he will spend some dollars for pdp primary and loose this time.

Penguin2:
As the 2023 electioneering campaigns and party politics take top gear, PDP seems to have successfully boxed APC to a corner.

Before the PDP national convention, one of the headaches the party had was how to zone party positions.

Most observers and bookmakers thought the party chairmanship was going to go south which would have obviously indicated that the PDP presidential ticket would go north.

If that had happened, a lot of Campaign of calumny would have gone towards the PDP for being anti-South for plotting to hand the North another tenure after Buhari. PDP would have shown all its cards too early and opposition parties, especially APC, would have used those cards against them.

But PDP pulled a masterstroke by zoning the party chairmanship position to the north and throwing the presidential ticket open.

Just recently, it was confirmed that the PDP Governors, who seem to be the new sheriffs of the party, have voted to throw the presidential ticket of the party open; which further cements that decision.

Now the implications of this are simple and obvious.

It’s open secret that Iyorchia Ayu, the incoming Chairman, has agreed to step down should a northerner get the ticket of the party. But nothing is cast in stone. A southerner might as well become the party presidential flagbrearer.

Now the APC is in a quagmire. If it throws its ticket open like the PDP, the Southwest, which is its only ally in the south, would feel shortchanged and it will adversely affect the party fortunes in the entire south.

If zones its ticket to Southwest, which duly deserves the party ticket in the south due to their investments and loyalty, then PDP will automatically throw its weight behind a northerner who would be paired with either someone from Southsouth or Southeast (Ndigbo won’t really mind as long as APC won’t be in power again). Now, with northern votes and the bloc vote from SS and SE, I don’t see how an APC candidate from the Southwest would stand a chance.

Before you doubt these projections, remember that the entire Southsouth is under the control of APC except for the audio defection of Ben Ayade of Cross River state which genuine political watchers can testify that it carries no effect. The situation in the Southeast as regards APC is too obvious to be discussed.

Now what next for APC?

From the above reality, the only way for APC is to go Southsouth or Southeast. But this has to be done with the buy in of the Southwest stalwarts of the party.

APC needs to convince Tinubu to allow the presidential ticket of the party to be zoned to Southsouth or Southeast. If Tinubu agrees to such deal, then APC will be assured of Southwest support. Now, Tinubu, Osinbajo, Fayemi, etc, might have to give up their presidential ambitions but that is the only way their party would be guaranteed continued stay in power which would allow Tinubu to maintain his invincibility and National Leadership tag.

Now with the APC presidential candidate coming from either SS/SE, the party can be assured of the whole votes of the entire south, especially if PDP zones it’s ticket to the north, add that to the Buhari effect in the north and the popularity of whoever would be the Vice Presidential candidate from the north and you are sure to garner considerable votes from the north and the election might just be a walkover for APC.

Anything aside this, then APC can kiss power goodbye in 2023.

Lalasticlala
Mynd44
Fergie001
Fahdiga
Sapientia
Garfield
Helinues

this one will the spinning narratives just to make it look like igbos have a chance in APC
You can write long epistles from morning to night igbos will not get PDP or APC slots not even near future

APC ticket is between Tinubu and osibanjo

PDP ticket is for tambwual while either wike or okowa settle for vp .


South east is not in equation for APC, and PDP in 2023

This thread will be scanty because audio billionaires have been busted

Peter obi very stingy human being. He shared 500 naira years ago when he was campaigning today his candidate is sharing 400 naira Tue eh

osothermal:
No sir, the GENERAL's choice is Kwankwanso/ NOI. Save this

Kwankaso lol kwankaso that was already floored by tambuwal in north west pdp caucus.
Kwankaso already lost in the congress , his candidates didnt even qualify for convention.

Meanwhile kwankaso is in serious dliema whether to go back to APC. Ganduje has been toasting him recently

Penguin2:
You make me laugh.

First you claimed no Atiku loyalist won any election, I bursted that lie. And now you are shifting the goalpost?

Ayu, who has been Senate President and Minister, will be a ceremonial or pushover chairman?

Can you listen to yourself?

Even the governors know they can’t control him.

The most the governors can do is to lobby delegates which Atiku can equally do.

So nobody is at a disadvantage right now in PDP and stop giving yourself false hope.

you didn't bust any lies . ayu was a consesus candidate by the govs he was elected unopposed.

Ayu agreed with the govs to stepdown if a northerner wins primary
https://www.newtelegraphng.com/pdp-chairmanship-ayu-agrees-to-resign-if-north-produces-presidential-candidate/

Ayu is literally there as a ceremonial chairman.


The real game is the election of NWC members which the govs handpicked against atiku and saraki candidates.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/10/convention-how-pdp-governors-floored-atiku-saraki-lamido/

The final list of delegates re prepared by Govs and members of Nwc. If you think achu is incharge , then you re a novice.
Just a ward chairman and court order was used to chased secoudus and oshomole away by apc and pdp govs

Indispensable85:
That means the governors may likely settle for Tambuwal. But why are the Southerners not showing interest to run under PDP?

No southerner in pdp has the 2 major things to steal power from incumbent

For a southerner in pdp to stand a chance he must have
1.A solid political structure in his region and an alliance with power brokers in North

2 a financial war chest.

It is more easy for a southerner to win election in APC than PDP.

Because APC offers

1.federal might

2.Good political structure in 4 geopolitical zones.

Penguin2:
Iyorchia Ayu, the incoming PDP chairman, is Atiku’s greatest ally.

He defected with Atiku in 2007 and was his campaign DG.

He had to give up his ministerial position in Obasanjo govt because of his loyalty to Atiku.

So, have you seen you have no point?

achu is just a ceremonial chairman, pdp govs weild the influence. Atiku himself will prefer secondus who delivered the ticket in 2019 than achu that was thrown in the midst of PDP govs handpick nwc.
Seyi makinde loyalist is pdp chairman in waiting i mean arapaja the deputy chairman.
Once tambuwal emerge as candidate ,ayu will step down as chairman that is the contract he signed with the govs.
Ayu is more like a political contractor

Indispensable85:
I think it's still going to be Atiku vs Tambuwal

yeah because of desperation of atiku. He doesnt know when to fight or walk away. Atiku benefited from the division of pdp govs last time. Now the govs re united under the course of wike the wicked.
PDP govs ensure atiku loyalist a.k.a the General boys where schemed out of congress and convention. Atiku has no political structure in pdp nor any Gov loyal to him.
The generals (obj,ty danjuma,and babangida) influence has been weilded out

PrinceOfLagos:
Fake news

Election is still few days away , stop spreading falsehood

nyamiri so 400 naira and can malt is what peter Peter Obi party can offer to the electorates

Value2Ethics:
Vidoe shows Anambra Citizens exchange votes for a Drink Can and N1k!

This is a state with billionaires, yet many citizens are exchanging their votes for a bottle of coke and N1k



Igboamaka indeed.....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqFRtbBw5FM

that 400 naira not 1k
The ones without voters card collects 200 and malt

emmanuelbrown26:
I prefer to sell or Hawk gala on the road than begging for owo mi da, God forbid,. I prefer to sell gala than selling my father's inheritance in the next 5 years I would come back to square 1

the owo mi da version in erosion land have turned their muddy land to killing field
https://igberetvnews.com/1380895/photos-killed-ebonyi-nurtw-leadership-crisis-ebonyi/

Do you have any inheritance to start with?
Your ancestors re sub human known as OSU. They are not allowed to inherit anything than serve the god of OSU all their lives.

Validated:
Good, ket SW bring Asiwaju or Osinbajo to face Atiku. The beating to be like segè

Atiku and saraki has been rigged out from the congress and convention.
The Govs now call shot in pdp and their candidates re tambuwal and bala mohammed.

Heramu:
They rely on north to vote for Atiku

Cos northern people vote based on ethnic background

If south can come out in mass to vote for APC southern candidate, their plan won't work

Northern population is erroneously believed to be greater than south

atiku and saraki has been rigged out.
PDP govs want their colleague to be flagbearer and throw vp position open to others

Sammy07:
Omo, throwing ticket open is only good for Atiku

Wikeeee

atiku and saraki has already been rigged out.
The contest is between tambuwal and bala Mohammed

Onyiiobi7735:
This fool is filled with so much bitterness, hatred and jealousy.
Soon you will have High BP

Bp pa iya e