₦airaland Forum

Lemme hurt you with the truth.

There are two possibilities:

1. Sharia as an Islamic legal system is good because Islam is good. But Sharia isn't producing positive fruits in the North because the Northerners, out of their evilness, are not making the right use of it. In that case, the Northerners are the problem and not Sharia.
If this is the case, then we can say the Westerners are refusing Sharia because they know they are as evil as the Northerners and their evilness will not help Sharia to produce positive fruits.

2. The Northerners are good but Sharia is evil. And that's the reason why the West rejects it. If this is the case, then Islam is evil because Sharia was inspired from the doctrines of Islam.

Do spirits die?
Does Satan have flesh?

When you know the truth, don't argue much with people.
Learn to turn a blind eye at their imperfections. If they insist on arguing, attack them on their conscience, not with the scripture. Anyone can quote a biblical passage to support their position.
But their a certain universal truth that no one can deny.
I created a thread for atheists and invited them to argue with me on the universal truth about the meaning/sense in life and it's source. Go see how they're blabbing.

If your argument is with a believer like your pastor, ask him simple questions.
1. Am I already saved by Jesus? Yes or No.
2. Was I saved by my merit? Yes or No?
3. Do I need to go to Church everyday, pay tithe, pray 5 hours a day, fast, to be saved? Yes or No.
4. If NO, why border me with his religiosity?
5. If YES, doesn't that mean I'm saved by my own effort and not by Jesus?

jaephoenix:
So sugarcane taste is the same as life purpose? So who tastes your own life to determine the taste?

Real atheists ask more reasonable questions even on their worst day.
You're not an Atheist. You're an 1d!otic wannabe skeptic.
In life, try to be good at whatever you're doing... or at least, pretend to be good at it. You're disgust!ngly bad at what you're doing.

HellVictorinho6:
Depends on what you mean by life

Get lost

HellVictorinho6:
Did they tell you life has no meaning?


Well as for me

Both life and death are baseless

!diot.
We don't care what you think or feel. We're discussing what exist independently of your myopic perception.
Is there sense in life? Yes or No.
If Yes, who put that sense there?
If No, why are you living a senseless life?

jaephoenix:
So when did this your god give your life a meaning?

!lliterate. Go read the full article. It was never about my life. It was about LIFE as a whole. There's a meaning in life right from the moment life started. Each one of us reappropriates this meaning to his own taste because of the divergence in life experience.
I gave an example with the appreciation of the sweetness of a sugarcane.
You're really so dvmb to make me repeat myself. It shows you simply didn't grasp my reasoning. Admit I'm so metaphysical for you so I can dilute the course to your level. Æpe.

Now ask me when my God put meaning in life as a whole.

Without religion these æpes can't affirm their atheism. It makes me wonder if the existence of God is subject to religion.

jaephoenix:
I.diot, someone asked you your religion and you have been dodging it.
Also Da Vinci and Einstein do not believe in Yahweh.

Æpe.
Are we talking about the non-existence of God or the authenticity of my religion?
What's atheism about? The affirmation of the non-existence of God or is it that of Religion?

If I sound too good and you want to join my religion, I worship at "Ocean of Sperms Shrine".

This æpe. I'll slap you till you get common sense.

God doesn't exist but you typed 3 A4 sheets about him.
Type another 3 A4 sheets on Crabubu. It's a three-winged marine creature that sings every 3 hours. There you go. Your time starts.

If the thing doesn't exist, how do you make sense out of what is said about it. If what is said about it is the problem you have, does people's opinion about it determine his existence?
Is existence subject to opinion or the other way round?

!d!ot. You no wan get sense.

sonmvayina:
Maybe Jesus was created by someone like you...

What do you think?

Believe whatever that gives you joy.

FRANCISTOWN:
It's a waste of time to engage you. People with basic education already understood what "especially" means

Worthy atheists have a nobler way of admitting defeat.

See calm
God doesn't exist. God doesn't exist.
I enter the debate with a 4 by 6 Australian Buloke all of them come calm down... carry olive branch dey shine their 32 for the Godfather.

FRANCISTOWN:
You used words that are indentified with especially christianity .

Evangelist.
Believers
Church on Sundays
Sowing of seeds.

Now that I've said that, it's either you are essentially stupid, cruise catching or just clout chasing.

I knew you're an ill!terate .
1. Evangelist : before Christianity, the royal town-criers of roman emperors are called Evangelists
2. Believer : Someone who lives in Voodoo is a believer of Voodoo. Did I tell you I believe in any specific God?
3. Church on Sundays : I have every religious right to call my house of worship a Church. Sunday has been the worship day of the Sun God, Ra.
4. Sowing seeds : Before Christianity, every religion has a sense of sacrifice. That I use "sow seed" instead of "sacrifice" is to make my message graspable by your 2MB brain.

FRANCISTOWN:
Wait first. Lemme do the honours before Jaephoenix gives it to you back to back till you break your back.

What do you mean by meaning?

So, you mean Nikola Tesla, Leonardo Da Vinci, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Stephen Hawkings, Albert Einstein, Charles Darwin e.t.c all led/lead a meaningless life? These are people who did/do not believe in your God.

Lemme ask you a simple question.
What meaning has your God attached to your life that you can't find in the lives of people who do not regard your God?

Cool. Now you want to reason.
I asked a question in the writeup "Can sugarcane existe without its sweetness?". Impossible. But the sweetness of one single stick of sugarcane will have a relative appreciation by many people who taste it. And it's no sin that we all differ in this appreciation of taste. It's normal. It depends on our individual nature.
It's same with the sense in life. There's a sense in life. But our individual experiences make us have different opinions about it. The moment you claim there's no sense in life, the most rational thing to do will be to commit suicide because continuing to live is like living a senseless life.

Now the stupidity in atheism is that they all know that there's a meaning in life. Actually it's beyond the realms of knowledge. All living Atheists BELIEVE there's a meaning/sense in life. There's no belief without faith. But they refuse that this sense in life was put there by someone. They claim each individual put his own sense in life. No my dear !diot. Just like the taste in sugarcane, it isn't the individual who put the sense in life. The sense has always been there. You just perceived it differently because you're different from others.

Now if this sense has always been there, who put it there? Answer this question. Don't blab around.

PS. Don't mention pastors or Christianity when you discuss with me. I'm discussing God. I never presented myself as an adherant to any religion.

Secondly, more than half of those icons you mentioned are not atheists. You're very stvpid to mention Leonardo Da Vinci and Albert Einstein. Those people have a religious inclination.
That someone criticizes Christianity doesn't mean they're atheist. Atheism is the refutation of God's existence, not the refutation of a certain religion.

FRANCISTOWN:
Come back when you when you have a point. For now, your points died even before arrival.

I realized Nairaland atheists only have muscles when it comes to debate against Christianity.
It's kind of you guys already have solid land to mount your artilleries on.
I took the battle to the open ocean. You find it difficult attacking me since you don't know my religion... Your canoe was so unworthy of this battle against me armed with submarines.

FRANCISTOWN:
Your lecture shows a magnanimous level of academic deficiency. Atheists can't engage in unworthy stuff that'll lead us to academic embarrassment.

My lecture sounds like astrophysics to kindergarten minions like you.
Open your own classroom, invite me as a student and watch me convert you to a new commer.

LordReed:
An intellectual pissant tackling a subject he can barely form sentences about, thinking his loquaciousness indicates intelligence. LoLz.

Pissant abi na pizza abi na peasant you wan write?
Get off my post if you know you're unworthy of my wisdom. !diot.

Like seriously, none among the Atheist community of Nairaland is worth my lecture.
I really overestimated una.

FRANCISTOWN:
Do the things that your mythical Jesus did before likening yourself to him

See how petit you are
Do I sound like a Christian? I have been giving you guys insvltive names back to back. Is that in the doctrine of Christians? Did Jesus teach that?
So why do you think I'm a follower of a mythical Jesus? Abi na them dey get high Morale like me?

Æpe.

I don slap you so tey you confuse dey call me Jesus follower. . I be your pæpà follower please

FRANCISTOWN:
That DTruthSpeaker na complete psycho.
E sure me say rehab go reject that guy I swear.

This one madness be like river of water. New every morning.

I jam frequencies in your brain when you read me. I'm light years ahead of your best. Call them here and watch me convert them to my disciples.
You're simply too !nferior to capture my frequencies. So stop claiming I'm mad. It's shameful to leave the text and attack the poster simply because the text is too high for you 2MB brain.

jaephoenix:
Did this your post make sense to you?
So its your god that gave your life a meaning? No p.
So if your god doesn't 'give my life a meaning' then its not worth living?
So where and when did your god give this your life a meaning? What if you can't read, write, hear, see, how can your god give your life a meaning

Blaad of Tinupu.
I thought atheism was constructed on intellectual basis. Every one of the Atheists is complaining of not understanding my text. Jeez.
I overestimated una intellectual prowess. Y'all commenting so far are simply dvmb. I'll wait for a better enlightened mind among your herds of ID!0ts.

Jeez. So God didn't give meaning to life?
Wait, what do you call "MEANING"? Building a house and driving a car?
So you can live a life that has no meaning? A meaningless life? A life without sense? As a being that claimed to have sense? Like are you normal?
So reading and writing are criteria to having a meaningful life? Well, no wonder your ancɛstors had a meaningless life.
So you need me to tell you when God gave meaning to life before believing there's meaning in life? Why didn't you wait for me to tell you when your mother gave birth to you before believing she's your biological mother.

Listen id!0t, you're unworthy of my class. I don't want to see you in the post again.

A religion that doesn't believe there are three persons in one God doesn't have the right to believe that demons can possess a person.

In the Bible, tere was a possessed person Jesus asked "what is your name" and he replied "we are legion": that is "they are many". I mean, many spirits speaking with one voice in one human being.
A Muslim that reads that passage of the Bible and believe such demons exist is a hypocrite for not believing Three Persons can be united in the Divine Trinity.

FRANCISTOWN:
You will just wake one day and hit the cyberspace, only to discover that someone somewhere is manifesting symptoms of madness.
Hmm, e pass things.

The Pharisees said same thing about Jesus.

Wetin you wan come read now? You really think atheists are wise?
Lemme taste my microphone first... If you are an Atheist and you are reading this, you're a majusculed id!0t. And after reading this, I command you to start believing in God or commit suicide.
OK. Microphone tasting done.

I'm not your average evangelist that preaches God with love and kindness; that begs you to believe so as to save your soul. I slap you with the truth till you become my disciple or continue living as a hypocrite.

You're a wannabe student of the intellectual school, I'm the Godfather who run the school. I'd!0t.
I try to sound so insulting so you would be discouraged and stop reading... And if you insist on reading, let those few slaps be a price to pay to learn from the Godfather.

Why God must exist.

Let's start by assuming that God doesn't exist. So you don't believe in a God. But you believe that there's a meaning to life. You believe love is the best solution to our social problems. You believe humans are equal; that racism, xenophobia, tribalism are social evils. You even believe that you have a purpose in life. Then I ask you. How can you believe there's an order in life, that there's a meaning to life, if someone didn't put that order and meaning there? I mean, only rational beings can perceive the meaning in something and only them can put meaning in something. Only them can give purpose to something. How come (in spite of all the disorder and injustice in life) you still believe there's a meaning to life that was not put by anyone? You'll claim there's no meaning in life; that I'm just imagining some ideal meaning. Racism, xenophobia, tribalism, terrorism, etc. are not necessarily evil.
If you think so, then I'll tell you to commit suicide because it's unworthy of an intellectual like you to live a "meaningless life".
But if you accept that suicide, terrorism, murder, etc. are wrong, it is because there's a meaning to life which those vices could antagonize. At this point, you realized you're too dvmb to continue the argument so I decided to give you ideas.
Instead of living a meaningless life, I'm suggesting that you should give meaning/sense to life. You shout "Yes. Yes. Yes". Then I pointed out a stupid thing in your excitement. How can you give meaning to life, how can you be the author of a sense in a life that you weren't the author? It's like making yourself the author of the sweetness of sugarcane. You didn't create the sugarcane but you created its sweetness. Have you ever seen a tasteless sugarcane? Same way it's impossible to see a meaningless life. And if no human is the author of the taste in sugarcane, so no human is the author of the meaning/sense in life (caricature of a comparison though).
The question now is how did the meaning in life come about? Mumv, you realized once again that you're a dvmb intellectual. You come beg me to educate you.

Now listen, when we talk about the MEANING or SENSE in something, we're talking about a certain rationality in that thing. So far we know humans to be the most rational creatures of this planet... They have the capacity to put meaning/sense in something (like in the case of traffic rules and any other thing they invented) and they can perceive the sense in something, like real intellectuals do when the Godfather spasms with his pen. Yet, we know that humans didn't invent life. Consequently, they didn't invent the sense/meaning in life. They simply discovered it (in science and in religion). Lemme give you the benefit of the doubt that you know the difference between invention and discovery.

Conclusion: If there's a meaning to life that was invented by a rational being who is not a mortal human, then that rational being is superior to humans. Call him whatever name that pleases you. Believers call Him God.

Now that I've converted you, come to my Church next Sunday and sow seed with the proceeds from your father's land that you sold.
I'd!0t

6 years in Junior Seminary (Secondary School)
1 year Internship in a catholic institution or Parish
1 year of preparation and spiritual training
4 Years of Philosophy
4 years of Theology
1 year of Internship (apostolic work)
Ordination
Total = 17 years.

That's the minimum number of years in some Dioceses.

If you are a Christian, follow Jesus, not Jerusalem. Use your head, not your sentiment.