₦airaland Forum

Aufbauh:
Lying to impress you or some other persons?
I don't think he's lying. He is only highlighting how they started which should be appreciated. This does not imply that the whole space they occupied today cost them merely 6k. It is possible to start small from somewhere and expand with time.

The lessons he is trying to convey is don't live above your means at a time and do not despise your day of little beginning.

He is talking about the first part of it. He is not lying. But the story is incomplete

Aufbauh:
Enemy of progress is it the best you can do?

He is actually not lying

rentAcock:
Anyone can change anything they want on wikipedia, this isn't news. It's about time these two clowns broke up, its not cute anymore. It was okay seeing them perform as twins when they were younger, now they look like two grown ass men still dressing up identically, that's so gay. Why would anyone expect these two family men performing as a duo at this age?? Sooner or later they had to breakup and they've cooked up all this pseudo animosity so their gullible fans wouldn't know they have an ulterior motive all along.

Paranoia

OjukwuWarBird:
Afonjas claiming Ijaws


Get out from my comment.

See this fool. I'm proudly from the south. We can't go with evil ppl like you. Fool

OjukwuWarBird:
If you think the Igbos and Ijaws are not ready to give up their oil for freedom, you must be joking.



The Igbo and Ijaw youths are fed up with your One Nigeria

Don't bring Ijaw or the South South into this. The East should carry there Biafra and go. Stop famzing oil money. We just want autonomy. To manage our oil ourselves

Buharimustgo:
Its not only the road dear,Nigeria is presently the most unsafe country to live in right now,even Libya is safer

Go to Libya sir

YelloweWest:
I'm not as dumb as ur mother.

Fùck u. Bloody retàrd. U can't hold a civil argument

U glaring come from a generation of bastards that's y u go around cursing people's parents on NL. . Don't worry Buhari would change Ur life soon. U are just one frustrated fellow.

k199192:
typical black man.. An advise can't kill your profession except you don't know your job..

Nope. U clients only value physics work and refuse to pay for designs and estimates. because u think it's all paper. No matter how many free jobs u get u won't still oay

A builder is a professional

Babs24:
The fact is that real professional advice can't be gotten here. Take a look at the estimating he did and you will see that he made no allowance for shrinkage and waste for cement. You can't get good quotes here.

2. I don't think any QS would want to be called upon first this type of project. A good and experienced builder/bricklayer can easily give you a reasonable quote for this. No Professional wants to handle projects like this cause we all know where the REAL money is...

scholes0:
So the Benins have been lying to us all this while that the Oba does not see the crown prince right from his birth till his death, and their whole "preservation of tradition" ish?

Besides,
Who sponsors all these royal events and palatial Owambes?

U can see how far away he is seated from the throne. That shows u how distant they are.

Angrymode:
Have you done extensive research that supports this your claim? Every filtration system has its limit and some microorganisms do survive extreme temperature and pressure. The OP is point on on his fact that every city in this country is living dangerously since people fail to understand that environmental sanitation and health can not truely be achieved individually.

The u would fall sick from cash crops as human and animal waste are used as manure.

Adieza:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=272389653267150&id=158338594672257

What is this olodos baba saying? Soak Away Pit is not just a Nigerian thing. And bedsides septic tanks are used to control over flowing if the soak away pit. Septic tanks are used singly in water logged areas. ALL THIS OLODO ITK MINISTERS

YelloweWest:
Story. Would u have said this under Gej?

Buhari has messed Nigeria up! Nothing is working!

Why not? I'm not as dumb as you are. Let's stop lying to ourselves. I just got light in my area after do many years the best ever. Many communities are bring lighted up. What about the npower scheme? To me Nigeria didn't change a bit since Jonathan left. Go and see the economic predictions and all in 2015.

OrestesDante:


Her life



Thank you. please help me tell 'em

Abeg she is a Benin Royalty too. Shrine plenty to comot am. U Sabi the Charm wey dem done put for her body when dem born am. All this afonjas sef

Is Buhari the one hoarding the passport? Or the tout conniving very with officials? We are our problem not Buhari abeg. Hold ur Immediate leaders accountable. That's y there is a Comptroller General of Immigration.

YelloweWest:
Jokes apart Nigeria is just a disaster under buhari.

Things have never been this bad.

I know someone who has been waiting for more than 7months for passport.

I personally have waited over a year for my drivers licence?

Wth is going on??

Is buhari still formating Nigeria

majortwild:
Could u enlighten me on how to do it cuz am actually installing it now and i think its a tweaked one already but not sure. Its frm a hard drive i got it from

Google playing GTA VICE ON LOW END PCS.

ecoeco:
...

Op dat can't b d same person

D person in d nysc cloth is x7 muscular dan d person in d uniform

Unless after Nysc y he was waiting for oil job
hunger r*ped all his destiny out b4 he decided to die for nigeria instead of to b killed by hunger

After all either way he shall die

#Eco99#

Trust me military training shrinks them

I don't think u can read at all. Just read the post again please.

zionmde:
indeed. they can only deceive the zombies. zombie oo zombie, zombies would not ask why soldiers never saw the bomb after all the raids in the place, zombies would not ask why it is now International bodies are kicking that police got their evidence,
zombies dont know the police are trying to protect buhari from the tough time when he faces tough time in UN
Zombies dont know or rather dont want to realise that police are trying hard to paint the randy madman kanu bad so that the world would see him as a terrorist
ahhhh zombie always reason a little lower than a puppy

GTA V. Can play GTA V. But u HV to tweak the settings file

My UBA CARDS ALL WORKED. I GUESS YOU HAVE TO ENABLE INTERNET BANKING FIRST.

oluwayimika123:
.I ve Neva used the tablet thing b4 so I don't really know how it works Buh 4rm dier response, it is quite clear DAT d bank is trying to point an accusing finger to one of their customers.

I stand to disagree with dis cos what dis means invariably is DAT one can use d tablet to access d internet easily not just 4 d purpose 4 ch it was designed 4 by d bank. I ve used some banks system 4 internet banking purpose Gtb to b precise and I can authoritatively say dis DAT aside d bank's portal, u can't use d system 4 any other thing, meaning d systems ve been specially encrypted 4 DAT purpose.

However, if it's den true DAT a customer used d tablet to access a porn site den dat means d bank ain't security conscious cos oda illicit activities could ve been carried out with d tablet thereby making it hard to trace d culprit using d I.P.

Those DAT ve used the platform b4 shld pls come and tell us if it's possible to use it 4 general internet purposes, den I may just stroll into d nearest access bank to visit Nairaland next time I'm outta sub. Just saying

Ignorance ignorance ignorance. That tab is open to all websites. It's not sensored. ACCESS bank is not to be blamed. The idiots. Opened it Nd videoed it

Cretaceous:
Why?

Don't mind him. Just trying to sell himself

EngrMarve:
I am a civil engineer, check my signature, email me

Baba swerve. Focus on roads and Bridges. Structurak design is ur work not construction.

Cretaceous:
Yea, i noticed that. I think this is because of plot is quite narrow. The land we are talking about here is long and narrow.

All you need to do is increase the window size. Or double the windows. If I had the room dimensions would HV been able to recommend something.

Cretaceous:
See here

That's the survey plan. We don't HV the buildings dimensions. You an request for a site plan from whoever did that.

From my observation. The guest toilet is perfect.Ur kitchen and Dining are poorly positioned. Your kitchen is too close to the entrance. Imagine ur wife has to run from the room to the kitchen when u HV visitors? Or ur kids HV to keep walking past ur guest to the kitchen. The sitting room should come before the dining. The dining is not a public space visitors are not supposed to HV access to that.

AK6464:
Not every guest you'd want to enter your bedroom before accessing the rest room if need be

there is a visitors toilet in the plan sir. That's what's labelled as V.T

GTBank In University of Lagos is fenced with a gate.

kabayomi:
British came to the west through their colony Lagos. Spanish South South during slave trade and they are mostly catholics, you can see that in the region coupled with some mix of Spanish words in pidgin too

Ion agree. The south south is dominated by Anglicans not Catholics sir

einsteino:
The hard truth is an architect draws pretty pictures that he has no idea how to make stand. There is no limitation to what an architect can model. One can model a completely suspended building in revit, archicad.. Can cantilever 40 metre span.. Can have an overhang of 400 sq metre supported by just a brick wall.. It is all just pictures and models.. The civil engr tells him what is obtainable within the budget and the prevailing technical conditions in the country. The way the industry works, engrs call architects dreamers and architects call engrs killjoys.

You dont hve to feel bitter about it. It is one thing to dream, it is another to make it work. It is not too late to go get a second degree in civil engineering so you can have all the competent technical know how you require to make your projects be the way you wish.

moreso nigeria isnt dubai, it is the truth. Such pojects require a lot of money for an engr to be able to explore alot of options and assemble a large competent team. Here it is hard for a civil Engr to even specialise unlike in developed nations. I have carried out many projects that budgetary constraints made me negotiate modifications with the architect. Heck it is almost mission impossible to produce grade 40 concrete in Nigeria which is the minimum grade of concrete in eurocode. The yield strength of rebars in nigeria mkts can not be vouched for, some are as low as 300N/mm for socalled high yield meanwhile it ought to be 460 minimum. Clients refuse to carry out proper geotechnical investigation that would educate the engr on the soil bearing capacity the structure would sit on. What are engrs to do? These factors greatly inhibit our engineering capacity. Even when u profer smart solutions that would save aesthetics, the same client wouldnt be able to afford it. The client doesnt want to spend money on his own project, the engr isnt paid something that even encourages thinking outside the box but the architect is still drawing beautiful dreamland pictures without taking into cognisance the difficulties and risk it would pose in a nation like ours.

Yes there are incompetent engrs and i agree many of them hide their incompetence by avoiding projects that require the most basic ingenious solutions. I have met a number of them, but the truth is alot of folks who parade themselves as civil engrs are not, even Architects also parade themselves as engrs and i have met a good number of incompetent architects too. I work as a consultant/design structural engr and i know the sacrifices and efforts it takes to be a competent engr. Civil engineering is very tasking, intellectually and otherwise. Yet an architect would dare ask an engr to carryout structural designs for peanuts. They want you to offer competence at the fees of quacks.

If you want competence, you must be ready to pay for it. You shy away from employing the service of a competent engr because you want to cut cost, only to run to quacks and come out here and insult an entire profession based on your experience with the quacks, it is not nice a thing to do at all. If i wrote an epitsle detailing the level of incompetence of some architects i have worked with, generalising and ridiculing your entire profession, how would you feel? There are many civil engineering consulting firms in Nigeria and they are very competent, employ their services. Most of the foreign construction firms employ the services of indigenous engineering consulting firms, I dont think you know better than them. I too am a competent civil engr and you can reach me for your structural designs. I have expertise in steel and reinforced concrete structures and software proficiency in STAAD PRO, Tekla Structures, Revit Structures, Robot Structural Analysis, SAP 2000, Orion and Auto Cad.

Oh that reminds me, you made mention of detailing in Orion being bad. Oh yeah every software has its limitations but it doesnt make one incompetent to employ them. Orion slab detailing is a disaster, its foundation details isnt a sight to behold either. I only endorse its beam detail but that needs some tweaking too. Personally draughting using Autocad is still the best due time the flexibility it avails its user but it is a painstaking process and involves too many repetitive and time wasting actions. To avoid this, Cads RC and revit structure can be employed if one can survive the learning curve. To engrs please make sure you understand the software you use perfectly well. Orion doesnt span slabs purely in one way, doesnt matter if u change the slab type.. Also be sure to introduce hinges before analysis because its details doesnt cater for fixity. Its foundation footing sizing is also too conservative. Personally, good old manual structural designs and calculation is a favourite and is always a good backbone, however automating the process makes it speedy.

Lastly engrs please a software is a garbage in, garbage out tool. You can't get what you didnt give. It is only to automate what you already know not what you dont. An engr reads more on graduation than he did in all his years in Uni combined, keep developing yourselves. Hopefuly we would take our profession back from the quacks someday.

What concerns a civil engineer with cost??

CASTOSVILLA:
This is to counter this thread https://www.nairaland.com/3040875/very-important-mistakes-architects-make.
1. ACCEPTING THEIR LIMITATIONS
Architects are the real consultants and their duty is to bring together the building team in other to achieve optimum desired goal in any building project. Most Civil Engrs parade themselves as Architects, quantity surveyors, Electrical Engrs etc because they feel like it is their duty alone to handle every espect of the building construction.

2. POOR AND WRONG STRUCTURAL DETAILS AND CALCULATION SHEET
I've witnessed this in many cases and I don't know whether the cause is laziness or lack of the knowledge. Most of them depend on software like Orion and the rest to do the job instead of using AutoCad to exercise their ability. Will the Architect be blamed after the collapse of the building due to wrong and misleading structural details and specifications?
3. LIMITATION IN STRUCTURAL KNOWLEDGE AND APPLICATION/ LACK OF CONFIDENCE.
Imagine when an Architect know better in terms of structural intergrity and construction methods. Most Architect design ground breaking edifice hoping that the so called Civil Engr will do justice to it, the next thing he'll hear is,"this is not achievable". Most Civil engineers are afraid to challenge themselves thereby resorting to denials and excuses not to handle a project beyond there technical/engineering capabilities. Some cannot extent a cantilever more than 900mm without applying a pillar. Any point of intersection of beams, a pillar is introduced. At the end of the day, pillar are seen everywhere. Some knows nothing about expansion joints even when it's clearly representated in the design. A whole lot of structural blunders are being commited by these Civil Engrs that one continues to wonder.
4. LIMITED KNOWLEDGE IN THE USE OF DIFFERENT STRUCTURAL MATERIALS (esp Steel)
Whenever you watch foreign football you'll notice the length at which they span the cantilever in their stadiums. Have you wondered why even at such span, it still carries a lot of spectators with ease. What type of material was used (even if you know), how was it constructed (most of our Civil Engrs do not know this and are not willing to know). Come to think of the little we do over here with rod, sand, stone and cement, some of these civil engineers cannot properly specify the correct mixture and proper reinforcement rather, they resort to guess work.
5. NOT WELL TRAVELLED
It pains me as an Architect whenever I get into an arguement with any of the Civil engineers in regards to the structural intergrity of some conceptual designs and the ones already constructed. Most Civil Engineers hate to see designs with concept. It beats their ability and it weakens their mind. I use this medium to urge our indeginous Civil Engrs to take their time and travel outside Nigeria. Go to Dubai, France, Italy, USA etc, go see for yourselves. Things you cannot do, go and see people doing it!

NOTE: I've worked with a lot of Civil Engrs and I can say that only few of them understand what is required of them and can relate to the above argument. The reasonable ones won't argue but will try to go back and improve on themselves.
Remember, no design from a qualified architect is unworkable, the problem is from the construction method.
FOR THE CLIENTS: Do not patronize roadside Architects, always sort the help of a qualified Architect no matter the price. Because YOU the clients thinks that you're smart, therefore ending up with regrets. Consult a qualified Civil Engr for your projects and stop cutting corners.

Get a builder

Babs24:
The fact is that real professional advice can't be gotten here. Take a look at the estimating he did and you will see that he made no allowance for shrinkage and waste for cement. You can't get good quotes here.

2. I don't think any QS would want to be called upon first this type of project. A good and experienced builder/bricklayer can easily give you a reasonable quote for this. No Professional wants to handle projects like this cause we all know where the REAL money is...

Yes I noticed. But it all should b left for professionals