₦airaland Forum

Ajuran:
It is well known that all Horn Africans and Nubians are related, you can tell not only by appearance but by language family, and history of the entire region being controlled by EACH other at times overlapping.

Nubian languages are nilo saharan

Ajuran:
The reason why they look Somali/Ethiopian was cause many are descendants of the people who ruled over Kush when Axum took it over.

Aksum was an ethiopian and eritrean
also your picture says that the country in south east europe,algeria and morocco are more related to somalis than sudanese are

KenyanLady:
You seem very confused and not making any sense at all, the modern day Nubians are no longer a Nilo Saharan groups, they are heavily mixed with Beja people, Hedareb people and the Rashaida Arab and 99.99 percent of them looks nothing like Nilo Saharan, therefore they have no kinship or cultural ties to the Nilo Saharans people.

You can't turn back the clock.

For nubians who still speak their language they can be considered nilo saharan
now the people you mentioned all live in the east thy probably are mixed with the beja
Also rashaida rarely ever mix and hedareb are a sub group of beja
I have seen many north sudanese people who look nilo saharan I doubt they make 0.01 percent of the population maybe more like 20 percent
We have no cultural ties to somalia considering our culture is a mixture of nubian and arab culture

KenyanLady:
You seem very confused and not making any sense at all, the modern day Nubians are no longer a Nilo Saharan groups, they are heavily mixed with Beja people, Hedareb people and the Rashaida Arab and 99.99 percent of them looks nothing like Nilo Saharan, therefore they have no kinship or cultural ties to the Nilo Saharans people.

You can't turn back the clock.

For nubians who still speak their language they can be considered nilo saharan
I presume you are refering to nubians not sudanese
now the people you mentioned all live in the east while nubians live in the north
Also rashaida rarelt ever mix and hedareb are a sub group of beja

KenyanLady:
It's a blatant lie, Most northern Sudanese and HOA look very much alike.


Northern Sudanese.
https://i.imgur.com/1jePt87.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Fs9ApGi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uQ0zvj9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BbpmoUG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Pd9xMSF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FKMgHV4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dq8xPum.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NTQF4Ow.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uxDIeUC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ppqawZK.jpg


HOA (Somalis).
https://i.imgur.com/CBKxKPs.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/M602GeT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mVl2u3W.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GiRLgHZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/MLht5mM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/RP6KvHI.jpg

Have you ever been to Sudan?
I have lived here for most of my life It isnt hard for me to pick out a somali from a group of sudanis
Your basing your argument of pictures

KenyanLady:
It's a blatant lie, Most northern Sudanese and HOA look very much alike.


Northern Sudanese.
https://i.imgur.com/1jePt87.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Fs9ApGi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uQ0zvj9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BbpmoUG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Pd9xMSF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FKMgHV4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dq8xPum.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NTQF4Ow.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uxDIeUC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ppqawZK.jpg


HOA (Somalis).
https://i.imgur.com/CBKxKPs.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/M602GeT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mVl2u3W.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GiRLgHZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/MLht5mM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/RP6KvHI.jpg

Have you ever been to Sudan?
I have lived here most of my life I can tell you most do not look somali
It wouldnt be hard to find a somali out of a group sudanis
You are basing this on pictures from the internet

ababda:
Although i grew up in New Zealand, but my family is from Northern Sudan. However to be perfectly honest i never ever heard the expression bantus until i came on the internet because no one in Sudan as i noticed ever use that expression or give a damn about that.. Indeed, we do range in colors, but visiting the Sudan National Museum in Khartoum while visiting my family the Christian art look very identical to the people now, why is that you think? For example this, and you see this and other art works in the second floor of the Museum, i pretty much go there every time i visit my family, to relax my mind, although they need to do something in regards to the air condition system.

Christian art before Middle Nile valley became predominant islamic.
http://blog.britishmuseum.org/2014/08/08/death-the-great-equaliser-christianity-on-the-middle-nile/
http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/RW006433/portrait-of-saint-jiovanus-xisostomos

Sudanese regardless of complexion
http://sudanembassy.com.pk/ar/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Afra-mool.jpg

http://sudanembassy.com.pk/ar/%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%B1-%D9%85%D9%86-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AB-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A/

We have to be realistic, which i am and not deny the obvious.


However to say that as a result to mixing is to deny ourselves, as i said to members here most Sudanese don't have anything against other African groups including horners, although many Ethiopians and Eritrean work as maids for rich people and other activities which i will not mention. Lastly, many musicians such as Teddy(Ethiopian) is pretty much popular in Sudan, and many people within our own forums will disagree with you on that one, but you can politely debates this within our forums on instragram, sudan net, and facebook.




http://sudanforum.net/showthread.php?t=171155&page=8

http://sudanforum.net/showthread.php?t=177873
You can politely debate us there in Arabic and English, my arabic is bad, speak but cannot write which is a shame on my part, but i have my cousin help me in translation on facebook, and many other Sudanese on instragram is helping me with my arabic, which is great.

My use of the word bantu here is incorrect bantu is language group the correct the to say is nilo saharan these aren't used in Sudan
I bare no ill feelings towards somali or other africans most Sudanese people are very kind but their is much discrimination towards horners mostly Habesha but somalis also face similar racism
Its true that Ethiopian music is enjoyed I listen to it sometimes
About the painting with the nubian queen notice her hair that isn't very common among the women of modern Sudan I have seen some paintings here in Sudan I'm not sure from when but it shows a nubian woman with african features with a baby or a nubian warrior
Also good luck in learning arabic

ababda:
That i agree with, and realitically we have to deal with our regional issues within Sudan, and if you are from the North as you say, you know how some people view other people from the other regions, not all people but some.

Sudan isn't exactly racism free its true they don't like anyone who is different in the time I have been here I've seen alot of racism towards the surrounding countries I attend college here where people are more educated but their is still racism
Even to our own people if you are too light skinned you'll be called halabi(in a derogatory way) and if you're too black you'll be called abd

Ajuran:
You agree with him, because it's probably your Troll account. It was created today, and all it talks about is how Nubians are Negro lol

Bantus are so desperate that they troll and pretend to be Somali/Ethiopian/Nubian only to say how they are related to Fufu Negroes.

Pathetic. If you think their related to you , plz talk to the South Sudanese who were killed by them in the millions

I have been lookin over this thread and a few others for a while I do not hate somalis but it pisses me off when they try to speak for us
The genocide was the president Omar AlBashirs fault if we had a chance we would change him in a heart beat I hope he dosen't get re-elected in the coming election but it will probably be rigged

KenyanLady:
You are totally wrong, Northern Sudanese are more closely related to Horn of Africans than they are to Nilo Saharans or any other Africans, and that's why northern Sudanese women and HOA women are in fact indistinguishable from one another.

Northern Sudanese.
https://i.imgur.com/0tDTBVJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vXqT7Jn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/IELYYQq.jpg



You are worse than Fulaman.

You can not conclude that they are related on the fact that some look a like
Nubians are a nilo saharan group I have lived more than half my life here in Sudan and I have seen some who may look somali but most don't
I have seen syrians who look english or vice versa it does not mean they are related

KidStranglehold:
Is there any reasons why horners are disliked?

I'm not sure but most Sudanese consider themselves better

We north sudanese are mixed nilo saharan and arab we are not cushite we are more related to other nilo saharans

First of all i'd like to start by mentioning that im north sudanese and a resident in khartoum.We are not related to somalis we may have some similar features but that is because of race mixing with the arabs.We are mixed nubian(nilo saharan) and arab.Here in Sudan we do not hate bantus we much prefer them over the horners
Sudanese can range in color and hair texture all the way from jet black(azrag)with kinky hair to olive white(halab) with straight hair the reason for the atrocities in the south was cause religion not race once there was much racism towards the but that has died out now and now there is very extreme hate towards horners.
I have brown skin and straights hair and consider myself a mix of bantu and arab
are feature are very mixed
The bejas in the east of sudan may be related because there land was under control by the horners but the rest are not