Fulaman198:
No offence to white people, but they do claim everything.

Look at Rastafarianism, most of them are black Jamaicans, but a lot of whites in America are now involved in it. I've even seen white dudes with dreadlocks

like I've seen some white people in the past who knew more about Yoruba Gods than I do (yeah I know I'm not Yoruba, but still I'm a Nigerian, I should at least know more than them about the Yoruba Gods).

They seem to like to claim other cultures foreign to their own, and eventually own it and say it's their own. Look at Rap music, look at Pop music, Britney Spears music would have been considered "Black music" 20 years ago, today it's not.

Fulaman198:


The only group that speaks a Nilo-Saharan language as shown by your map in Algeria, Mali, Niger and Nigeria are the Songhai/Sonrai/Zarma/Dendi (they go by all those names) however, they speak slightly different variations of the Songhai language. Some speaking Sonrai Korai Chinni, others speaking a language mutually intelligble with the one spoken in Gao, and others speaking Zarma. Gabero for example is spoken in Sudan, it's a Songhai language close to Gao dialect spoken in Mali. However, the Gabero people are of Fulani origin that no longer speak the Fulani language.

Your map proves nothing. As aforementioned, anyone claiming Berber who looks "white" are typically those with a VERY heavy mix of Greek, Turk or Roman DNA, this is well known fact. Most of those so-called Berbers don't even live a Berber lifestyle, they live more of a sedentary European lifestyle, claiming a culture that isn't their own.

"Sahara palaeohydrology overlaid with the spatial distribution of Ounanian and barbed bone points and Nilo-Saharan languages. The languages marked as “other” are too small to be depicted as separate colors; they are Nyimang, Temein, Hill Nubian, Daju, Berta, and Gumuz. Note the similarity between the distribution of barbed bone points and the distribution of species that require deep water"

Fulaman198:


Nah man that's bullcrap, there are no Nilo-Saharan genes, again you are just acting like a brainwashed guy not willing to accept the facts. The fact is, anyone who is of light complexion and obviously having white blood claiming to be Berber in North Africa is obviously of Roman, Greek or Turkish blood.

Fulaman198:
Or What about these Algerian Tuaregs:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uiR4ZSrP9A


Do you see how dark the women in the video are?

The Sahara people are extremely dark because of the sun hitting their skin, not these so-called Berbers who are mixed with Greek, Turk and Roman they are NOT the original Berbers. No way could a light complexioned person survive in that sun.

Fulaman198:


Dude I see Tuaregs every day not the stuff you keep posting.

I've posted at least 2 pictures of Tuaregs already

what about these:

[img]http://www.alsur.fr/assets/drgalleries/217/thumb_alcd153.jpg[/img]

And no Tuaregs aren't originally from Algeria. Tuaregs are originally from mainly places in West Africa. The West like I said earlier has brainwashed a lot of people. That Algerian "Tuareg" you posted is the mixed one. He looks more mixed with European than actual Tuareg.

Fulaman198:
Typical Tuaregs in Nigeria, as dark as Charcoal:

Fulaman198:


Funny because Tuaregs aren't white, there about 1 million Tuaregs in Nigeria.

Fulaman198:


As did many West African groups including my own as portrayed in this documentary written by discovery channel, ignore the random gibberish written by the AA Brother (no offence to African Americans, I respect you guys):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCpsJxkUAVo

Fulaman198:


Don't know what you mean by this statement, if you mean by the Tuaregs our neighbors then you are correct. The 2 songs I linked earlier were both Fulani people.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NjX1ziHVX8

This is a Fulani and Tuareg song

Fulaman198:



Sure man I was really rolling my face on those pictures you sent me, I mean gosh I really thought I would sink through my monitor and be at helm of those "feet". Only to realise that the pictures you sent me were imaginary

Also Ayanle/Ajuran, your statement earlier was incorrect. Fulani people, and other ethnic groups of the Western Sahel aren't mixed. Some are, those who have intermarried recently, but most aren't. We look the way we are due to our climate and surroundings.

Fulaman198:
I bet most Americans won't even know where these guys are from?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKE3jrjXD94


It shows the naivety of Westerners.

Fulaman198:
This guy who is ethnically Fulani sings in Hausa language, I bet most Americans won't think he's Nigerian:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ngpfM70Q-Q

ArtanK:


White folks?

The funniest part was when a girl from Tanzania joined our class. She was really pretty and because of that they thought she was mixed.

KenyanLady:


Can't believe it, the vast majority 99.99 percent of Nigerian men looks like those men I posted.

Ajuran:



Your education is terrible.


1- No such thing as looking African, its a continent.

2- It's like saying Indians are not Asian because they dont like Chinese

3- You are simple minded and assume that because Cushitic people dont look like Bantus/Nilotic that we are Mixed. Have you ever thought we might be the original humans, as the horn provides the two ways to go out of Africa via red sea, and nile river? Maybe have you thought that you are the one who degenerated downward from the original people in the horn of Africa?

4- This map is based on Genetics and tells you who came first, and you can see as the people move farther away from the Horn, the less they have our DNA, which means people came from the Horn.

Supper:


So according to your logic, anybody expect arabs from South Arabia, modern day Yemen, where the original bedouin tribes arose are arabized arabs. Well, that would include %95 of arabs in the world, and technically applies to those saudi people you posted in the first pic. FYI arabs invaded northeast Africa at around the same time they invaded the middle eastern levant and Mesopotamia. That would make eygptians/sudanis just as "arab" as lebanese, syrians, or iraqis.

Supper:
They never were. [b]Their collective ethno-lingual identity [/b]pre-dates the concept of "race".

KidStranglehold:
We do you guys have to say for this?


http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/World_News_3/Sudanese_president_answers_questions_on_Darfur_3474.shtml


Again the salutation is much more complex than "Arab vs Blacks". Plus Arabs aren't a race you m*rons!

ababda:



Like i said Terry, come to the country an see things for yourself, and you will be surprised what people actually think, and you will be ashamed of what you written, which i think is quite silly.[b] I hope you don't have a inferiority complex terry, i hate to see that. [/b]


Lastly, lets discontinue this dialogue because it does not serve the purpose for this thread.

WAFP:
Hello, I'd like to let you know about the West African Federal Project. It has been created to unite the states of western Africa under one federation: the Guinean Union.

The website has been launched this week for the french-speaking west african audience but a beta version using Google Translates is available for the english language.

French language website:
https://wafppfoa./

English translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwafppfoa.%2F

Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/wafp.pfoa?ref=hl

ababda:


I had to correct you there Terry, i think that statement is more about yourself and your society, and culture more than any of us here. Terry it is obvious you never been nor traveled to the African continent. Reading about the a place online is not the same as going there and interacting with the various people and cultures, and fighting with people on the internet is not hardly representative of a entire people or culture. My suggestion is travel to many countries as you can and see things for yourselves. I have a feeling what you written (past tense), and once you visit will change your whole perspective about everything, and you will later feel guilty about what you had written here.

ababda:


OK, LOL. Nobody here will take you seriously anymore, but at the same time i respect although it is pretty much not accurate.

ababda:


Your comeback is so pathetic it does not even warrant a reply. So according to you these people are part Caucasian.



Kikukyu

Maasai



Rwandan





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_jSDWk_zrI

You sounds pathetic Terry.

ababda:


True, some people did, but not everyone. At the same time some SS came back, and guest what some got their civil service jobs and homes.

ababda:



Really. What is a real African? Can you define that? Interestingly before the islamic period, this is how the people depicted themselves

[img]http://www.corbisimages.com/images/Corbis-RW006433.jpg?size=67&uid=1f98f9a5-4a37-42e5-a6e0-163cf79172f2[/img]







http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/RW006429/painting-of-christ-protecting-a-nubian-prince?irpid=27795

http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/RW006433/portrait-of-saint-jiovanus-xisostomos?irpid=27795

http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/RW006426/painting-of-nubian-queen-with-the-virgin?irpid=27795

and which one looks similar to the pre islamic art the lady you posted or


or her.


it is pretty much obvious.

Kenyanlady, what noteworthy things your ancestors left behind? Inquiring minds like to know. I know about pre colonial Nigeria, which is impressive, what about you kikuyus? lol

Ajuran:



Arabs in east africa were not slaves. They came from Oman to enslave Kenyans,tanzanians, thats the reason why so much of their language has been wide spread in east africa and mixed with bantu languages : SWAHILI

Funny you speak of a region your not from. The entire area was the backwaters of Somalis/Arabs especially after Somalis defeated Ethiopia in 1500's.