₦airaland Forum

Abohboy:
See this is your problem you assume my views are based on a western pov I believe in polygamy my great grandfather practiced polygamy so how could I be against it? My views are of African origin and culture it is you who is blinded by the whites and the west not me

almost everybody's grandfather's practices polygamy that's not an achievement

my grandfather was one of the first christain priests in Abeokuta yet he married about 3 wives

we are awaiting the weddings of homosexuals in African society

Abohboy:
I stg this is the third and last fucking time that i'm posting these links if you still can't get them then I don't know it's just nairaland being special

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23808346/

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/09/being-gay-african-history-homosexuality-christianity

Now after reading those go and look into the Igbo practice of 'female husbands' where women married other women it's okay you will lose this argument today and see how wrong you are

you just posted links for posting sake

both the links support my view

they say *homosexuality is not alien to Africans*

but I say *"yes they are not alien,but they were never seen as normal"*

the Igbo female husband's stuff was just a way to protect women as far as I read
they did not practice homosexuality

mtisTheQubit:
did the gay folks marry

I would love to know who did those weddings for them

vankelvin:
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period

just watch closely
the guy would soon say polygamy was never accepted in African society

just because dem whites don't like it

the west are really crazy
they make polygamy a crime but LGBTQ is legal
that's what happens when a too much liberty country like the US is world power

why can't the us go talk the homosexuality trash with Saudi Arabia their main ally?

why disturbing African countries?

Abohboy:
I'm talking about Uganda and Rwanda in this situation and you never solely talked about yorubaland if you cared about in Yorubaland you would have read the links that i've given you twice now but clearly you're too fucking thick to click on a fucking link and read

I can't see the links

I solely said yoruba
go back to my posts

I've been asking for 3 posts in a row

where are the links?

I'm done arguing with this aboh guy
he has totally lost it trying to make homosexuality look reasonable

Abohboy:
Oh so now you're changing the basis you need huh? You told me to bring evidence of ANYONE in the past who did it openly without stigma and now you;re chaning again well unfortunately I can't bring up a common man who practiced it because it wasn't unique or even special so why would they remember the names of those who did it?

If it was a taboo you don't think they'd have recorded the names of those few who practiced it openly? You didn't think of that now did you, it was a practice that was normal and was allowed to be practiced freely in most parts of Africa so those who did it weren't really remembered as special only reason why the kings and queens in Uganda and Rwanda are remembered is because they were the first of royal families to do it and because people from abroad like Muslim and Christian traders found out and they thought it weird that there was no stigma or discrimination against those who practiced it

I told you to bring anyone in "YORUBALAND"
I know you can read

now you're lying
the Muslim and Christian traders never saw homosexuality in the common people of the place

you're fooling yourself alone

kings could do basically anything they wanted and you know that well

Abohboy:
Incest has always been bad but homosexuality hasn't it isn't up for argument go and read the links I said then go and do more research it was never a taboo in most parts of Africa and i'm still waiting for you to bring evidence for your claims

now I know you're joking

so incest was bad yet some people did it
right?

the same with homosexuality

you're only fooling yourselves

Just30:
then you shouldn't have qouted me

yours was up

I quote anyhow I like

vankelvin:
You have no idea

He calls countries that openly oppose Gayism as backward and non progressive

very stupid man

Abohboy:
Does it have to be adored? I'm saying it was never taboo or frowned upon they were just there living their life as normal

And I only told you about the kings and queens in Uganda and Rwanda who practiced homosexuality

give me a common man

you know kings are different and can do whatever they like

vankelvin:
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The fact that some few people were practicing same sex in the past does not mean it is/was part of our culture. It doesn't mean such practice was accepted..

Mention just one African tribe that openly adored same sex as part of their traditions? mention just one Tribe.

that's what the guy doesn't understand
some people also practiced incest and it was a taboo

but since the white man said incest is bad he says it's bad too

bloody fool

homosexuality was never accepted in African society

Just30:
anyway, this is not what you and I were talking about

I didn't post that for you

I posted for everyone obviously

Abohboy:
Go and read the links then come back to me you haven't provided a single source for your beliefs and i've provided three if you can't argue with evidence then stfu

where are the links?

you're just talking rubbish

Abohboy:
I gave you some posts in yoruba culture and religion showing homosexuality go and read them then come back to me

And it doesn't have too celebrate it does it? I said it was tolerant of it and they were able to freely practice it

where are the links?


they were free but looked down upon

it was a taboo
a great taboo

Abohboy:
My problem is Africans being unaware of their past history, culture and religion to believe that they were demonized in the past is wrong

I don't care what the topic is if Africans are reciting their history or culture wrong through sheer ignorance I will attack it

you are talking nonesense

Africans never loved homosexuality

you can take that anywhere

Abohboy:
It's not a white man thing it was here before they came, we knew about it before they came and we never had stigma against it before they came all this stigma came with the white man

you've been reading rubbish information

Just30:
this is funny, did you just say I can't read?

if you can

go back and re read what I posted

why are you gea?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooOELrGMn14
]we are not gae

Just30:
So Nigerian challenges are propaganda?

you obviously can't read

if you can

go and re read what I posted

Abohboy:
That's false there's quite literally a transgender deity in the yoruba religion who passes from both male to female throughout the year and has sexual relations with both male and females whenever they switch does that not tell you that they had a concept of gender fluidity in the past?

that is not gay or transgender

that's just saying the deity represents both genders

I'm still waiting for Yoruba poems that celebrates homosexuality
I'm awaiting the historical figure that was LGB whatever you call it

mtisTheQubit:
Now they are blaming homosexuality on Africa..the white man is really smart

so ridiculous

Just30:
You are the reason why most Nigerians are suffering...
You rubbish the genuine challenges of other Nigerians.

you're trying rubbish propaganda

it obviously can't work

I'm experienced in stuff like this


I can bring a problem in Ghana now and start concentrating on it even if Nigeria suffers it more

that's exactly what you were trying to do
baseless propaganda

Abohboy:
Continue crying they've been here from time immemorial and i'd just like to tell you King james the one who translated the first bible into english was bisexual he liked both men and women but he stole kept the clause in the bible where homosexuality was frowned upon go and learn some basic history and science

I have no business with king James whatever and the Bible

Africans society have always seen homosexuality as abnormal

Abohboy:
You clearly haven't learn anything about traditional religions or culture it has never been a taboo in most of Africa to be gay they just lived their life as normal if you talked to a Babalawo they would tell you that there were gay people in the past in Africa who lived their lives as normal it is the coming of Abrahamic religions that changed our worldviews even in ancient Egypt there are mummies who were buried with many artefacts that were gay and we can tell through DNA tests, facial structures and the mannerism in which they were buried you can cry all you want but that's the fact of the matter

you're saying rubbish
can you point to any historical figure that was gay?
can you point to such in any Yoruba poem or folk song?

it has always been looked down on even before the Europeans came


stop defending rubbish
I personally don't believe in Abrahamic religions
I have read a lot of African history
homosexuality was ALWAYS looked down on

Just30:
Listen to the challenges rape victims are facing in Nigeria and demand better for them....

In Ghana, people are not blamed or ridicule by the police or police does not intentionally delay the case until it becomes foolish case.


In Ghana, the only challenge is medical inspection for rape victims and people are already demanding that govt make it free of charge...

you're saying rubbish
total crap

what happens in Nigeria happens everywhere including your Ghana

stop decieving yourself
I know what's up here

mtisTheQubit:
Dude is just trying to encourage other like minded dudes here

I don't like talking gay stuff at all
natural my foot

Abohboy:
If you bothered to read into traditional culture and religion you'd know there's no stigma againsy homosexuality in Africa. For example a king in Uganda had a whole male harem he literally hired men to have sex with him there were also the queens in Rwanda who used to do intercourse with women of their kingdoms or even the several transgender deities in West and Central African religions

Stigma and hate against homosexuality is of western origin if you look at those who practice traditional religions they don't harbour half as much hate as those who practice western religion towards gay people whether you like it or not the hate towards homosexuality is of western origin and isn't a practice of African origin

you're talking rubbish
most of Africa never celebrated homosexuality
it was always a taboo

you're talking crap

Abohboy:
Are you even reading to understand? Majority of them ignore the natural homosexual tendencies and some are even attracted to both genders so reproducing isn't a problem I don't see why some of you guys cannot read to comprehend

you're talking rubbish
"natural homosexual tendencies"
no that's not natural
it's rubbish


psychopaths are everywhere but you don't call it natural
don't bring that argument here abeg
serial killers just love killing but you can't call that "natural"

Just30:
seems you just want to text for texting sake.

Listen to your fellow citizens. if you don't know what people are going through, don't rubbish their challenges.
https://ww w.youtub e.com/watch? v=NPZppwAhKCk

I can post dozens of rape videos in Ghana and south Africa

stop decieving yourself
you're far from smart

Abohboy:
It is very possible many people hide due to stigma or because the way they grew up made them hate the practise so in any case even if they were Lgbt they'd be disgusted and avoid it at all costs

rubbish

if its possible then they won't be shouting rights all about the place

the world population would be stagnant or reducing because 30% of people are not reproducing

30% is totally impossible,even in the west not to talk of Africa
even in gay accepting south Africa I doubt if they are up to 1%

Tomek09:
Na lie, Yorubas are not good in business. I had expected you to mention Administration/Tech hub. No tribe can lay claims to education presently because Yoruba are living in past glory. My stay at Ibadan really brought reality closer to me about education claims of SW.

is Adenuga Eboe?
is Alakija Eboe?

I'm sorry for you

LiquidWood:
There is no real or fake Yoruba. If you're a Yoruba then you are a Yoruba.

the guy is a fool
was Awolowo not Ijebu?