What do u mean that Nigerian musicians are more talented than South Africans? I already told u SA has better voices and can dance much better. Nigerians can't sing (hence over-reliance on autotune and can't dance as well. U were only good on marketing since afrobeats had already taken root throughout West Africa. Afrobeats is just that - the beat. That's why SA made 12 billion and u just 5 billion in 2019.
The anti-apartheid movement was global because the people of SA put up a brave fight first and sustained it until everyone took notice. U had your opportunity during end-sars coz the world was watching but u didn't maintain momentum. U also need to tell people that u need help, especially if you're always talking about how great u are over everyone else (big brother, giant of Africa), no one is gonna come to your aid.
TMKsouth: It's the lies and denial that make me wanna puke - and the constant thought of open air pooping
I've actually never watched Press TV but I can understand why they're like that - remember they're even building nukes to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. In SA we're very pro-Palestine so the station will appeal to us here (don't know why DStv doesn't show it).
I used to catch TVC online - it's actually very decent - didn't understand Nigerian issues back then though. DSTV shows NTA in SA and its really really bad.
TMKsouth: I see u wanna bring back the debate about amazing amapiano Vs autotune afrobeats, and that SA entertainment industry made 12 billion dollars in 2019 while Nigeria only made 5 billion dollars. Or that SA's Black Coffee is richer than Wizkid, Davido and a third one I forgot COMBINED.
Are u begging for that argument again?
Anyway, don't be scared of the government using force when u protest - they can't kill u all before u get to them first. Have u seen the footage of kids and teenagers in SA throwing stones at apartheid police and being shot at with live ammunition in some instances. The same is happening in Palestine against the Israeli army. So u need to overcome your fear. But I get it - u just lazy folk who think freedom will handed to u on a sliver platter.
Money doesnt equal talent
Hmm Do you know how much support the world gave you? In Nigeria today No support from anyone Assuming the government were good these west guys would have found a way to remove them
KingCold: Yawn. there's more chance of you being an open defector than me being a rapist. I would have been in jail if was. You are still a 4th world savage
TMKsouth: U should watch SABC News instead. How many times does F24 or DW speak about Nigeria ? africanews is also alright, although repetitive and lacks analysis. Or tune in to CGTN for a dose of Chinese propaganda during African shows .
@bolded - this was actually very funny. A rare moment u made me laugh. Most of the time I just wanna puke, but I've learnt to live with the nausea
We watch those guys for international news There's Arise,channels,NTA(government propaganda)first tv station in africa? AIT,TVC for local stuff
CGTN is better than aljazzliar of at worst Iran's PressTV
PressTV can't case news without something negative about Isreal - its just impossible I watch them for a good Laugh
rvp20182: You dont know him because you're ignorant and proud of it. Azikwe is only recognized for his failed effort to free the Igbo from well known slavery of the Northern Nigeria. He is just an Army dude. Nkrumah started well - but like Nyerere - made way too many mistakes - Ghanian kicked him out and his entire elite. Nkrumah died in exile - and his country Ghana would suffer his mistake for 30yrs.
Only the smartest of Africa recognise Tom Mboya.
Tom Mboya was TERRIFIC and by 20s was being elected in Lagos to head Africa.
Tom Mboya with his charisma and oratory skills CHOOSE never to take the easy path to populism
He said the truth - the unpopular truth. Tom Mboya is a legend for those that know him.
I first read Mboya biography in 1990s in university and 30yrs I remain as enamored as I was then. Africa need Mboyas.
Of all black leaders - I'd say only former US President Obama Jnr and Tom Mboya makes the white man recognize African can have top brains
Listen to this audio interview. This Pres Obama kind of IQ. This make the white man turn all colour of rainbow - as they dont expect an African to have such a nimble mind.
TMKsouth: We're all going through a lot - we went through an insurrection in July - some even called it an attempted coup. The ANC is corrupt as hell and much of the country is rotting away while they steal money and fight each other (which led to the July riots). Nigerians aren't even protesting in the streets against the mess u say you're in - we had riots.
Yes the whites ruled over SA in the past but they left power 27 years ago so stop giving them credit for everything single good thing in SA almost 30 years later. 50 years from now Nigerians will still be speaking about the "white foundation", "the white influence". You're just trying to mask your failures everytime u say this.
You've also clearly given up on yourselves as black people to expect and accept mediocrity whenever blacks are involved. In SA we believe in black excellence - that's why we're the true leader in Africa . Afro-pessimists have no place leading a black continent.
We protest But you know what happens The guns roll out
Okay Black people will rule the world one day And Nigeria will fo back to its big brother status
We are not pessimistic We are very optimistic people Thats why our art and culture is top notch Dance away your sorrows
We promote africa the most through our music especially SA is nowhere near that
rvp20182: Of course - he is part of 10 smartest political leaders of Africa. Smartest people - well likes of Einstein makes it a very competitive list - outside politics. But in Africa Politics - definitely I see no reason why I wont consider Tom Mboya one of rare Africa leaders.
why dont no one know him? Like Nkrumah,Azikwe,Mandela?
KingCold: BS. you just don't have manners. We observe the same from Nigerians based in SA. You just can't function in saner societies coming from that jungle
rvp20182: Once again the West African see the clothing; doesnt see anything else. I was hoping you'd recognize Mboya brains were above africans level even now. This was somone who in 20s could sit and argue with one of American Iconic president John F Kennedy. Iconic leader like Martin Luther King.
Mboya visit US to set up Africa wide Anti-Colonial Fund. Warning - video has no clothing - dont sell you bro or sis for a piece of cloth.
KingCold: Crime and crime but the fact remains, you can't compare burning a house with beheading someone. FACT Sweden, has the highest rape incidents in Europe but Sweden is not barbaric, Nigeria is Jungle justice for example is another one of your pastimes, another proof of your innate savagery You are the capital of these savage killings.
Rape is as bad as murder You're the capital of rape I the universe
Maybe 'cause konji dey catch una because your girls too fine
KingCold: The fact remains, open defecation remains a scourge in that shithole. Imagine teaching and persuading grown adults to use the toilet. Your country's backward
The open defecation is caused by scarcity of public toilets I markets
rvp20182: That is what Tom Mboya liked wearing - unless he was official duty. Tom Mboya was pan-Africanist but he had no kind words for Ankara - or huts - that people were calling Africa wear or culture - while they were simply symbol of poverty. The dutch or Ankara or the Hongkong prints were not African and could not be use to define or caricature Africans.
Tom Mboya by 20s had achieved incredible feats - his intelligence, charisma and oratory skills - had people in awe. Yet he had been born into poverty and had gone to school late - and had studied almost single handily by correspondence.
TMKsouth: This thread is evidence there's violent crime in SA, why u acting surprised? Or u want me to say the criminals are foreigners? I'll leave that to others to bring up.
But how come the herdsmen are number 4 terrorists? I thought they were your government (FG - Fulani Government )
There's no ISWAP in Nigeria, you're exxagerating.
There's ISWAP in Nigeria Google Nigeria is facing a lot more than you know
U say there's no open air defecation in Nigeria. The Vanguard says there are 48 million poppers in Nigeria with Pulse says the situation is gonna get worse and increase to 56 million by 2025
Why did u insist I dig deeper into this? cc KingCold
rvp20182: Tom Mboya is immortalized with stature where he was shot dead in 1969 - aged 39yrs - having accomplished incredible feats from his 20s. The street was renamed Tom Mboya street.
Working with John F kennedy and Martin Luther King - he would ship 800 mostly Kenyans - to IVY league universities in the US - including Prof Mathai - who won the Nobel peace prize - and Obama father - who'd late reward the US with 1st Black President - convinced that Africa would only develop by investing first and foremost in EDUCATION.
Tom Mboya designed kenya flag and basically laid the foundation of kenya social and economic future - with Kibaki the future president - would design the Africa Socialism - sessional paper 10 - that would see Kenya grow at 7 percent from 60s through to 1980s - when IMF SAP kicked in.
Africa socialisms was based on both capitalism and communism - but within Africa context - that recognized at it core that Africa was communal - it concentrated on cooperative socities and harambees (self help) - where people would pull together to contribute money or to build roads - Harambee became the national motto - and kenyans working together built schools, hospitals, name it - not with coercion like Nyerere of Tanzania or Nkumah of Ghana - but through Africa spirit of Ubuntu or strong community.
KingCold: Read and read for understanding stupid illiterate. I said crimes like "theft" and "arson" lose their menacing quality when placed alongside ritual killings. And they do<you can't compare stealing with beheading someone for rituals. You are stupid but quick to talk
crap
Crime is crime
And you are the capital
Rape is just as barbaric as ritual killings And youre the capital
dont forget My country is still your country Your leaders are still crying to made president
FakeUnity: Where he is immaterial the most important thing is that the plans and ideology he propagated has been set in motion. He has really single-handedly destroyed nigeria that even 'one nigerianists' now hide their faces with masks during their paid protests. Something that was unthinkable just 10 years ago.
Forgerrit, MNK is an enigma that even his transgressors and enemies cannot deny his charismatic charm.