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Oludasile, I am sure I am not the only one that is encouraged by your testimonies. My prayer is for all C & S faithfulls to stand firm and remember their divine call to be light where there is darkness. We must aggresively pursue holiness but not that our salvation is in the doing but in the empowerment that comes from the Holy spirit as we strive to live a holy life.

We must take responsibility for the negative publicity surrounding the C and S Church today. For the Cherubim and Seraphim Church to be taken serious we must change our orientation and how we do Church and worship. This is the way forward. Service and Worship should be a thing from the heart and not by mere observance of doctrines. It is a whole of life affair.

Some of the challenges that need to be addressed borders on management, administration and structure, we need to redefine our mission and vision with clear cut strategies on how to achieve it. The current uncontrolled and uncoordinated ecumenical, missionary and evangelistic activities need to be addressed with accountability from all parties.

Furthermore, inadequate ministerial training and education continues to be the plague forestalling the growth of the Christian church (Non C & S inclusive). Reasserting the true purpose of the fold according to the Orimolade’s principles of faith, prayer and spirituality should be our priority. The world, eagerly await the manifestation of the sons of God through this Church. We need a rebaptism of the Holy Spirit in this fold for complete healing in order to go out empowered for ministry.

The ways of our fathers have led us out of the wilderness but the wilderness is no longer what it used to be, we need a way forward. However, as we take the initiative to move forward it must be based on the principles of our fathers but led by the Holy Spirit. This is the way forward.

Thank God for our critics because without them we probably would have been complacent beliving that we have arrived.

Fakile

It would be naive of me to say that the C & S church need not change and demonstrate that it is indeed founded on Christ. Sadly enough the same message applies to many churches nowadays. The problem is complicated for the C &S Church because of the white garment. You can bet that anyone wearing the white garment today have effectively created an identity whether they belong to C & S or not.

Secondly, In my very short life experience, I have noticed that many churches begin to go to wrack and ruin in character, morals, ethics and their christology the moment after the demise of the founder or leadership, Why? One of the reasons I can suggest for this catastrophic failure is our blind sense of servitude. Many people in churches today are yes men following their leaders blindly and not Christ. All they know and stands for is what the leader stands for. Unfortunately, the leaders themselves lacks discernment or choose to ignore the leading of the Holy Spirit and becomes political in appointing followers, they end up selecting sycophants and yes men and women. Before they die they would have brought obscurity into their ministry. In some cases the down trend only becomes evident in the 2nd or 3rd level of leadership.

It is not that the fold did not start out well with all good intentions. I believe all knowledge, power and authority belongs to Jesus. He calls everyone to salvation and his righteousness that is guaranteed; but it is only guaranteed by your response to his good gesture. Whatever, the state of the church now, it is not the intention of God for it; it is the way the C & S (May be some) have responded to the grace and blessing of God on the Church. When Jesus said that the 12 disciples will sit and judge the house of isreal on the day of judgement, was Judas not included in the promise? Yes he was but his response to the grace disqualified him. I believe that God had good intentions for this indigenous african church when it was called to liberate and deliver those in the grip of evil.

I have read in the bible of miracles happening but I have witnessed miracles in this fold, breakthrough, deliverance and divine healing. Many have purported that it is through occultic means, I cannot deny that, there may be some truth in it but at the same time Jesus was alleged to have used evil spirit to perform some of his miracles. Man will always provide an explanation to the unexplainable. However, I believe that there are still a few good ones around.

Denying occultic influence may be immature of me, it is just like someone locked up in the cocoon of self existence denying the existence of God. How can I justify some of the ugly experiences that some of you may have witnessed in the hands of these men of God, (sorry devil incarnates). Yet, I guess there are bad policemen around but that does not mean that all policemen are Bad (I have a feeling I have used a bad analogy, did I say police?). God help us. 

This is just a response to your thread. I shall be following up on my earlier article.

Thank you and God Bless.

Maranatha!

Fakile

I will attempt to throw some light over some of the issues raised. lI will also try to answer any questions you may have about the theology or biblical basis for some of the practices of the Church. I plead with you to be patient with me as this will take time but I am going to be very objective about it. I will also be open about my concerns about the C and S fold.

First, let me start by asking a few questions on the issue of tradition, culture and contextualisation?

If the Bible nowhere instructs believers in Christ to pray to anyone other than God. Why, then, do many Catholic pray to Mary and/or pray to "saints"? Is prayer to saints / Mary Biblical?
Why is it that these church continues to survive with less criticism? Is it because they are foreign?


The Cherubim and Seraphim Church

Introduction
After the ascension of our Lord Jesus Christ, His disciples, followers, and believers of His word carried on the good news about salvation. At Antioch the followers of Jesus Christ where first called CHRISTIANS - “Christ like”. In a not shell the Christian religion is then called CHRISTAINITY.

This religion started as the universal Catholic Church. As time passe by various church broke out of this, such as Church of England, the Anglican Church, Methodist, Quakers, Baptist, 7 day Adventist and many others. In the middle 19th century, Christianity was introduced to Nigeria. Most prominent among the Missionaries was the Church Missionary Society (CMS). The aim of this church was to bring African native into the church leadership. With the European colonisation of the African continent, the aims of CMS was defeated and changed into apartheid and dominion theology (more fortune over ruling the poor). The enlightened African natives among the converts came together to form their own Christian Churches such as:-
• African Baptist Church
• Cherubim and Seraphim Church
• Christ Apostolic Church
• Celestial Church of Christ etc.


Saint Moses Orimolade Tunolase founded cherubim and Seraphim Church in 1925. This church is generally known and refers to as ALADURA CHURCH (PRAYING CHURCH). C & S Church is an independent African Church with pronounced African background and culture.

Cherubim & Seraphim Church – Practices and mode of worship


Worship: To attribute worth to the object of our worshiped, the worshipper considered the object worthy of whatever he is offering. Worship is priestly service. Our life should be one of service worship (Romans 12:1).

The character of worship as declare by our Lord can be found in John 4:24 and the C & S firmly believes in this.
Word - Acts 2:42
Prayer - Isa.40:28
Singing - Act 16:25
Giving - James 2:15-17
Fellowship - Acts2:42

Symbolic acts and practices.

White Garment: God told Moses to tell all the skilled men to whom He has given wisdom in uniform sewing / making that they are to make garment for Aaron and his children to serve as priest. And they must wear them when they minister. This uniform is not our salvation but is to give us dignity and honour as an ambassador of Christ, which God cherish very much [ Exodus 28:1-4]. Be reminded that even the anglican and Catholic priest have their own cassock? so what is the difference? There is good reason here to support the C & S church - make everyone priest for the Lord. But are they? Same to all Christians, are there true christians around this day?

We are all priest before our Lord to minister God's peace and love to all. A Nurse or Doctor has a uniform, so does a policeman but their service is not made perfect by the uniform. The question to the C & S fold is, What honour does the fold has left when those who wear it are unaware of their priestly role? Being a christian is life long experience not when you put on the garment. Same applies to every pastors or clergy out there. The errors you fnd with this fold are becoming rampant even in other pentecoastal churches. we are talking about fallen human beings.

I hope this is helpful for now. I intend to write more on the practices and doctrine of the Church with same objectivity but if you have any pressing question let me know.

Fakile