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Unbiased1:
Mtcheeeew. I will leave my state and travel down to Oyo just to go see an abandoned satellite station Tourism kor Turkey ni

Look around the thread and you'll discover that nobody asked you to "leave your state and travel down to Oyo just to go see an abandoned satellite station", genius.

Aemmyjah:
Oga
Go and rest
You did not prove anything
Twice kor
Thrice nii

I've done more than enough already. I'm not obliged to make any sense to you. You are doomed to be stupid and it's not my fault.

Aemmyjah:
The order and organization in the universe came by chaos right?
Keep blowing hot

Nobody knows for a fact how the universe came about, not even you. You only think you do because your Bible told you so. And your Bible is a bundle of lies and confabulations. QED.

Dtruthspeaker:
All your arguments are fallacious.

Interesting accusation. Let's examine it, shall we?

The argument is not about the bible being flawed.

1. The argument is about the existence of God/s.

2. OP has to provide evidence/s to justify the existence of God/s.

3. OP presented the Bible as proof that his god exists.

4. Unfortunately, the Bible does not qualify as proof because the Bible already presupposes the existence of God, and is therefore flawed. It's like using the Harry Potter novels to prove the existence of Dementors.

Then you comit the fallacy of appealing to badaatum as if he is an authority

You're wrong as usual.

It would have been an appeal to authority if I had said "Your argument is wrong because budaatum said so".

What I said was "Your argument is wrong because of X, which budaatum already pointed out

I don't expect you to note the difference between those two statements.

then ad homineming his pastors and him.

I'm not sure you even understand what an ad hominem is.

All these are no arguments meaning you do not counter his arguments validly.

Given previous interactions with you, I know for a fact that you are far less intelligent than Aemmyjah and 90% of the users here so I don't rate your contributions in the slightest.

So this is you just trying to argue by making unnecessary noises since you had nothing to say to him.

If it helps you go about your day without anxiety, that's your kettle of fish.

jaephoenix:
Not only is he a dumb theist, but a Jehovah's Witness, the dumbest of the lot

Lol. Jehovah Witnesses. Scum of the earth, those lot.

Aemmyjah:
Prove your point instead of running round the forest

Done that already, at least twice now.

You're either just a dishonest cunt who loves to lie and pretend or you're a first class dumbass with cognitive challenges.

Or maybe both. Who knows really.

Aemmyjah:
Pastors ke?
I even presented logic about order, organization, cycles in the universwe
Na wetin pastor tell me or na common sense?

Your conclusion is completely disconnected from your premise. There is no proven correlation between "order in the universe" and your fictitious god.

HellVictorinho6:
How are u sure the universe exists?

1. Define "Universe".

2. Define "Existence".

Aemmyjah:
Without you bringing up any point to debunk what I said, you're only blowing hot
Mr No Evidence to support fact

Your argument was already debunked by the very premise you based it on. The Bible is the most flawed basis you can use to justify the actual existence of any god(s). It's like using the Iliad or Odyssey to establish the existence of the pantheon of deities in the Greek mythology. Budaatum has amply demonstrated this fact to you already using other examples, but you can't possibly know this simple fact because you are thicker than two short wet planks. Your pastors have done a good job locking up your brain cells and throwing away the keys. You cannot fathom simple facts or even common knowledge outside the confines of your religion.

Plus, you've completely lost your mind if you think any of the sad litters of trash you've posted so far constitute "fact". You wouldn't know FACT if it ran you down ten times with a packed molue along your street. I already suspected you were a blundering dimwit when I read your first couple of posts, so your witless replies do not surprise me in the least.

Aemmyjah:
Logically, Evolution tells you that everything in the universe and life and earth with their cycles, order and organization came by chance. In other words, everything came from nothing.
We know the kind of people that nonsense makes sense to them and they call it fact

Doesn't it bother you that the validity of your entire argument hinges on the Theory of Evolution being proven wrong?... that your claims cannot stand firmly on their own merits?

Your entire position here is premised on a false dichotomy, that is "If option A is wrong, option B must be correct. No other options are valid or merit any sort of consideration." If we should assume (or in your case, insist) that the Theory of Evolution is wrong, it doesn't necessarily lead to the conclusion that everything was created by a conscious being. You still haven't established any facts that absolutely support your own position. What you're doing here is simply using "god" as a placeholder for ignorance. Same way our ancestors claimed that the tears of their gods were what caused rains, or that the sounds of thunder meant the gods were upset -- that is, until we discovered exactly how these phenomena came about.

Ultimately, evolution has no bearing on the philosophical inquiries about God's existence. There are many Christians who accept evolution just as there are many atheists who even reject it. Just because evolution is "wrong" to you, doesn't mean the answer you made up because it makes sense to you within the context of your religious presuppositions must be any more plausible, feasible, or credible. Personally, the validity of the Theory of Evolution is of no consequence to me. Evolution didn't make me an atheist. What made me an atheist was and is the continued failure of religious folks to adequately support their outlandish claims with verifiable and trusted facts or evidence.

I'm totally fine with the possibility that we might have no definite idea on how life came about. You, on the other hand, insist on making up rubbish and pretending to know the answers even if those answers are totally unfalsifiable and indefensible, so long as nobody figures out the real answers.

Aemmyjah:
What has evolution got to do with the Creator?
Logically, nothing cannot produce something
Life and the universe cannot result from blind Chance
Evolution that never met the scientific approach yet they say it is fact. Don't mind that guy. E no go school

It's interesting that you're asking what evolution has to do with a creator, when you're the one who keeps bringing it up in discussions pertaining to the existence of God. As with most religious people, your arguments are all over the place.

I didn't fail to notice that you dodged my query in the post you just replied to. I asked you for proof that the inaccuracy of the evolution theory shows that a god exists. Given your laughable tirades against evolution on this thread, I'm curious as to why you can't oblige this simple request.

Aemmyjah:
I gave 4 points
You have no objections but to come out to throw tantrums
If the idea of the existence of God gives you headache, it is not my problem
Follow the idea that tells you that your life is a result of an accident and without any ultimate purpose - Evolution

Yep. I knew this was going to be a labour of love.

Literally any educated individual can see that I gave a clearly stated objection to your original post. The fact that you failed to see the logical implications of your arguments, is an obvious testament to your very poor capacity for critical thinking. Furthermore, your hilarious rants about the evolution process are meaningless, inconsequential and a complete non-sequitur to my actual point. Again, I suspect that everything I just wrote will fly over your head once more.

Make no mistake though, I'm not having this discussion to convert you or make you change your mind. Far from it. Your obstinate belief is not my cup of tea. My reason for engaging you is to demonstrate, to people that might be viewing this thread -- who appreciate rationality and pragmatism -- the dangers of religious programming and how it obscures any form of rational thought.

So go on and keep looking for fishes in the sky. When your brain has finally summoned enough juice to decipher my first riposte, you can try addressing my objection again.

Aemmyjah:
U were the one that dropped the image of scientific approach
Tell us whether evolution has met it
No evidence
Just de play

For the sake of argument, I accept that evolution is false. Now, if you will, please elucidate your proof that evolution being false leads to the existence of a creator deity.

Notice the conditional in my first sentence, lest you think that I'm conceding any point. Judging from the utter dross you've been posting here, I have already profiled you, but I'll just give you the benefit of the doubt and see if you may yet redeem yourself.

Over to you.

Aemmyjah:
Does God Exist?
The Bible’s answer...

Aw, shut up.

How many more times are we going to entertain this ridiculous circus from religious people? This is textbook circular reasoning, and is a logical fallacy. You argument was shot down before it even took off (by you, no less!). The Bible already presupposes the existence of God. If your mission is to convince non-believers that a god exists, you need to base your argument on actual objective, independent bases. Given prior experiences of discussing with theists in the past, I don't expect you to understand what I just wrote.

The substance of the comments from posters in this subforum has truly gone down the drain over the years. It used to be home to the most engaging intellectual discussions.