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basilico:
Not all of us live in that banana republic America. What is your point?

Lol some of us do and those of us that do read it

Calls America a banana republic yet wakes up and spend his entire life talking about “banana republic”

Lol; jobless old man

If you have never read about FDR’s New deal promises I encourage you to do.

During the Great Depression he promised to put measures to stop a new recession, he promised to strike out 100 programs within his first 100 days in office which he did

Many of them were stricken down as unconstitutional by political hacks know as judges as we have them today

And example that wanted to be stricken down was the SSA

Now every American knows how important the SSA is 80 years after FDR brought it

Same as the FDIC

Because a set of political hacks claim an act is “unconstitutional” doesn’t mean it’s wrong; the constitution is almost 300 years old

Surely modern day policies might be unconstitutional.

basilico:
I have liked your reply with extreme prejudice

You are too old for this

ono:
Comments like these speak to the moral depravity that's rampant, ravaging the US in particular and the world in general. This mindset is of no one else than the Devil, and the result of some demonic possession. Go get help my guy.

Moral depravity ? Did I tell you to abort yours ?

How does it concern you and the government what I and my partner does to our bodies

This is the problem with you people; your moral view is not the moral view of everyone

AmazonHippolyta:
Sanpipita, Budatuum, Timiofak they are not hiding it anymore.

They are now bold to say it out loud.

Did we not say it ? Lol

basilico:
Oh my You must be a casanova judging from the way you are in favor of abortions. Easy for you. Just make out and if things go wrong Roe v Wade makes sure you never pay child support.
Just my opinion. In other words I think you are stating matters out of personal interests.

Lol; and how does that concern you ? Did I impregnate your mother and I didn’t take care of you ?

If you don’t get out of my sight with your ridiculous assumptions.

Btw if I impregnate my girlfriend today I can take care of both her and the child that would come forth and if she doesn’t want the child my state of Pennsylvania still does abortions. Good riddance.

subsidywise18:
Even then, better to get a law enshrining your rights...privacy or otherwise. Or else.....

Rights mean nothing when they are not backed up by law.

You do have a point I agree

It should be law

But my point right here is

They are numerous Supreme Court landmarks that aren’t laws

For example brown v board of education; there is no exact law upholding it

But it is a settled precedent

But it’s obvious if more right wing judges get there they can turn it an leave it to state right.

Which is absolutely bullshit

subsidywise18:
Sorry for quoting you again, but here is this article on Ruth Bader Ginsburg's critique of Roe vs Wade...



Ruth Bader Ginsburg wasn't a fan of Roe v Wade.

I mean we can argue about the part of the constitution it should be

She has her own reasons for wanting it under equal protection

But as you can see she wasn’t asking for a constitutional amendment or a law

Because even judges expect it to be a settled case under the right to privacy

subsidywise18:
Ok...the Supreme court recently struck down a law on guns in New York....reason being it contravened the second ammendment.

On abortion...where is the federal law on abortion? Constitutional amendment.? If there was one, the conservatives won't have had any choice. All those constitutional originalists would have said...Abortion is the law...and we would be looking at 9-0 infavour of abortion rights.

Even civil rights....the states rights folks of the 1950's and 60'S HAD NO CHANCE...because the 13th and 14th amendment not only guaranteed the rights of black Americans as citizens, it also guaranteed their rights not to be treated worse than white citizens. NSRP and company in the end had no chance.


Finally, why are we not having similar cases in Europe? Because European abortion activists got a law on the books guaranteeing their right to abortion. And yes, they did not allow the fact that 'some european countries like Ireland and Italy are anti-aboriton...trying to get a law passed would be difficult....they got a law passed...guaranteeing their rights. YA think their opponents can challenge such laws in court? Even if the judge was anti-abortion, he has to keep within the law'.

Whether conservative, or liberal...if ye want your rights secured...get a law...preferrably a law passed at the level of constitutional amemdment ....that guarantees your rights NATIONALLY. Democracy in practice is hard work.

That is what the Irish did recently. No waiting for 'ruling by Irish court to guarantee our right'.

And I’m telling you it was secured under the right to privacy

Is there a law for loving v Virginia ?

Not everything becomes law because it secured by previous laws

That’s how precedents are set

Which all three trump appointed judges said under oath that roe v wade is a secured precedent.

I know you are trying to be the rational one that stays in the middle but that doesn’t work here

basilico:
Tell us more about civil war . Is it democrats or Republicans who wanted to keep their slaves. Jim Crow was a democrat too.

Again . The Supreme Court should not be making laws. It should interpret the constitution as written.

Lol this is foolish; when it’s clear that there has been an ideological shift

Tell me more about modern day is it democrats or republicans that parade the confederate flag ?

benalvino3:
you lose your jobs, Biden fired people.
where have you been?

Lol ode

I said show me a law

Talking about federal workers that got fired for not taking the required medical tests and vaccinations required for their jobs

subsidywise18:
Yes, that is true, which gets me to my main point.

If someone supports abortion and your state does not support it then get enough support, get enough votes, campaign, convince people and then get a law passed that allows for abortion in your state.

Or get a federal ammendment to the constitution guaranteeing reproductive rights

Don't rely on court rulings. Court rulings can be reversed.

Same goes for the conservatives.

Modified...

If you want your rights guaranteed...then go and get a law passed guaranteeing your rights, NOT a court ruling. Because today's court ruling is tomorrow's reversed ruling...

Once upon a time, the Supreme court ruled it was legal to keep slaves. Now it isn't because the appropriate law was passed making slavery illegal.

Lol; roe v wade was seen as a part of a section of the constitution

What was the major reason for the civil war ? State rights to own slaves

Only if you are saying the civil war was wrong and states should have been allowed to make its own laws ?

Loving v Virginia; is federal over reach in your opinion; let’s get it out there and leave it to state

All of those numerous land mark cases; leave it to state rights

It’s a bullshit argument and a no brainer

State rights is a lazy excuse to backward the country

We’ve seen it during the era of Jim Crow

In some states lynching just became a crime as recently as 10 years

How don’t you guys see the retrogressive movement of things like this. Bro omo;

benalvino3:
their state their choice. the states can decide... this is democracy and a republic. Statily autonomy
my body my choice died when they want you to inject vaccine in your body... the hypocrisy of the left

Show me one law or court ruling in any of the 50 states that made it a crime if you don’t get the vaccine

This is ridiculous and whataboutism

And you need to get a life

basilico:
Same sex marriages dont result in babies. Thats the big differnce. If two people of the same sexx want to make it let them go ahead.

slowpoke; they are all under the right to privacy statute, you people support stupid things without thinking about the after effect or precedent.

JESHAL:
Under the nose of a Democrat majority government, Kai,I'm 100000% sure Kamala Harris will never be president, America will never have a female president till I'm dead above 100yrs, you will never see it, shame to reproductive Rights, men now control wombs

This is being tone deaf stupid sha; pretending like the democrat majority had anything to do with it

When it all started 6 years ago

When everyone warned that this would happen; what did idiots and coons say “but her emails”

You allowed McConnel that would die in the next 10 years max to decide the fate of America for the next 50 years

Now blame the democrats some more; what do you want them to do? Pack the courts ? Remove the filibuster?

Lol; same sex marriages and gay marriages are all on the chopping board

Good riddance lol.

State rights my ass

Let’s also leave slavery to state rights

benalvino3:
that is not what we are talking about then. I just wanted you to stay within the playing field. no one is arguing that. what you are arguing too is a bit silly. apple does all its tech stuff, planning and designing their product in the US, china only comes in when they want to materialize their designs or blueprint.

thats outsourcing but the company itself is still in the US.

Tesla built a mega factory in Texa, where they will me making tesla cars... its different from what you are saying.

Yet Tesla’s biggest factory remains in California


Forget all this things; cities would remain cities

Even in the Texas the counties they are moving to are heavily managed by democrats
Lol, all this yarns na unnecessary yarns.

If they want republicans

Move to a small town in Kentucky or Ohio

Then you would enjoy full blowN republicanism.

benalvino3:
Oga, we are talking about a company moving from cali to Texas...

Yeah I know and I said Texas would turn blue and you said they would move to Mexico

And I rebutted by saying outsourcing isn’t a new thing

Lol

Are you clueless on your own thread ?

benalvino3:
and they will run away from the blue state they turned it into... maybe Mexico this time as some of them are already doing. leaving United states for Mexico.

Lol; since the 1940’s

American companies have left America and outsourced labour to developing countries around the world

It’s not a new thing and I’m not shocked

No new president caused this

And no singular president can bring it back.

benalvino3:
Pretty soon all the companies that do not subscribe to wokeness and are interested in profits and their shareholders will all be in Texas or Florida

Lmao and both would end up blue

Lmao.

Livelystone01:
Putin price hike huh? SMH

When election comes, we will see if people will care about if Putin is that president of your country or not. Face issues headlong instead of playing the deflective shield.

As it is, Putin will allow the war prolong because the war seems to be profiting him...

So called sanctions and propagandas have been ineffective and Ukraine is still suffering from being misled by vulture nations who only deceive naive and weak minded leaders of weak nations to go to war for their selfish gains.

In order to educate some of us; enlighten few things

Who are these vulture nations; secondly what do you advice Ukraine to have done to stop this war. Thirdly tell us what this vulture nations have gained so far from this war. We are waiting

Lol, a thief told you all that I am here to stop all other thieves. When in reality he puts his family members in cherry postions to make money while also diverting money from the governments purse and creating a cult like following

I see the reason why some of you are supporting people like Tinubu and thieves like atiku.

You finished that country, Americans are not going to allow your delusions finish America too

There must be consequences.

basilico:
An M16 is a fully automatic military grade rifle 5.56mm caliber. An AR15 is a semi. 5.56mm think made by the same manufacturer
What's an assault weapon?

Stop asking me ridiculous questions.

No matter how many times I answer you; you go along with you asinine ideologies and talking points

You are down the rabbit hole and cannot be saved. I hope this path you are on doesn’t kill you.

Bye bye

benalvino3:
thank you. so the good guys should have guns. i am with taking away guns from the bad guys.

So not thoughts and prayers ? Lol. Una mumu no go ever end

basilico:
I also think that Biden should be allowed to carry an assault weapon. A fully auto weapon like an M16 or AK47 to protect himself.
What's good for the goose is also good for the gander Right?

Or it’s a dumb fucking analogy

And no one should have to work around with such guns

If republicans can recognise that there is a threat to the judges lives because of one guy with a gun

Why can’t they recognise that there is a threat to all the kids in this country

benalvino3:
or, people who want to ban guns should give their body guards sticks for protection.

Lmao, good guys with guns

Kavanugh had a gun scare and we see Mc Connel calling for a swift bill.

No I do support the bill. But if I understand the right wings position on all of this, it is claimed that victims should have guns and less doors

So why should we protect Supreme Court justices ? Why can’t they get guns to protect themselves too ?

benalvino3:
Start from the IRS, FBI etc. Look at the way they are corrupt and work together with the dems.

That's what the deepstate is. People on the government who use their position to persecute their enemies.

They commit crimes and get away with it. That's the deepstate.

Lol; this pit doesn’t have an end

FBI, Irs work for dems

Yet ooooo; fbi single handedly submerged the 2016 election

This makes zero sense.

benalvino3:
They will think it's a conspiracy. See Timiofak saying the deepstate is not real. Denying reality.

Sometimes I see what's going on in the US and realised how the TV series: prison break was trying to tell us there is an elite that runs a lot of things. In that TV series the deepstate is called : the company.

“Deep state”

They are numerous movies dating back years that have always said there is a group of elites that controlled the affairs of the world by causing havoc in secret

It is not real

And if by any means it is real; you can’t pretend that people like trump or musk or Bezos won’t be part

They are literally by products from defuncts establishment managed by “deep states”

So it makes no sense. You claim there is a deep state yet support billionaires that made a chance of wealth from this “deep state” it is ludicrous and makes absolutely no sense.

benalvino3:
New member to the deep state,
New disgusting billionaire to Timiofak.

He is one dollar too rich now he is a deep state and a disgusting person.

You do know there is nothing like deep state right ?

benalvino3:
Your reply does not make sense. You are envious of billionaires as you seem to always make noise about them why?

I don’t envy them lmao; they disgust me.

You believe there is a deep state and you think billionaires aren’t part, isn’t that irony ?

benalvino3:
The deepstate is real. You have seen it. In order to control the country they have to corrupt everything.

Lol but remember the deep state is real; but billionaires that vote red aren’t part, also also the billionaire former president isn’t part

Lmao.

BasedUsername:
"We just want common sense Islam control."
"Ban assault Muslims."
"We aren't taking your Qurans away, but nobody needs to pray five times a day to worship God."
"We can have Muslims worshipping without their prayer licence."
"I just want a registry so we can track down all Muslims. Now Muzzie, just wear this yellow star for easy identification."



Like some sort of Final Solution to this problem, eh?

Is there ever a final solution to anything ?

But a reduction can come about

Show me one thing laws have solved fully in the history of man