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richidinho:
this is iginla's story

I may or may not believe this story

Whether or not you believe. What God's done can't be changed nor influenced by human interest or opinion.

ichuka:
Submissiveness doesn't equity obedience
Submission is total but obedience to delegate Authourity isn't .
Acts5:29..Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
So here obedience isn't total but submission is remember.
Just be totally submissive to ur parents and husband including the delegate guys there.
But that DOSENT mean u have to obey them
100% depending on the leading of the Holy Spirit.

When we allow the spirit of God to lead us, surely His fruits will be seen. If you would agree, submissiveness can't occur without humility. And humility is one the fruits of the spirit. So, everything still boils down to making the spirit of God the lead not man.

ichuka:
The Gift was given without conditions.
And to fully exhibit such Gifts one must sit under the feet of Christ to learn submission and obedience.
She had a sister called Mary, who sat at the Lord's feet listening to what he said..Luke10:39
Mary always sat at Christ feet listening,while her sister is always quay doing so many good things.when her sister complained what respond did she receive from Christ?
Martha, Martha,” the Lord answered, “you are worried and upset about many things, 42but few things are needed—or indeed only one. f Mary has chosen what is better, and it will not be taken away from her.”
We should know when to work and time to sit on His feet.
That's when to be submissive and obedience to His word and also to any delegate authority arround us.
So to fully express His will we must SIT with Him.always.in our studies and prayers.

So, which other authority is superior to the called the he/she has to be submissive to except God?

He already has it. He just needs your commitment. But Jesus already bought your soul at a very huge price, I wonder what could you problem be again

You're right. It's shocking to see people telling that we're in the era of grace, so no longer are we bound by these laws. This is the degree of heretical path many 21st century churches are encouraging their members to walk today. Pity!

I would be pleased if the moderator can allow others contribute

Cc: OAM4J

jcross19:
they can preach but running the church affair is another thing entirely, out of 100%family run by women 97% of them are failure and disastrous while few survived the same thing church.

Let's give the 3% to those who allow the spirit of God to lead. Deborah was a woman, yet, he led the Israelites even in the presence of strong men. The things of the spirit will be confused to us if we ever try to decide on our own. Before his crucifix and resurrection, He gave us two things: the Word and Spirit. If we yeild to these two, where the spirit is allowed to illuminate the Word for us to have clear understanding, then confusion will be humiliated. As long as the spirit is sufficient to lead, let's allow Him. If God wouldn't allow women to lead at all, he won't care calling them. How on earth then can we bench the chosen of God from speaking? It's as good as saying we wanna silence the flow of information or God. Meanwhile, I never said men shouldn't be involved. Of course, they must! But it's important to note that the called has a responsibility with God. The called guides in the spirit, receives messages from the body owner, Christ. However, not that other people gifted in the church can't receive from God to guide the church. But the spirit of prophets is submissive. No matter what, the called's position can't be altered nor his/her word taken for granted. Others must be subject not to the called but as a sign of respect for God.

Please, let's not hold back spirit from the Word. Both are the required nutrients the body of Christ needs to grow.

The same way God's message is preached, I want to tell or remind you that Satan, the devil, also preaches. The evolution starts with planting a seed of enticement. When you see someone you have not once known with evil just starts one day, don't be confused. Now, it is an indication that he/she has yielded to the teachings of the devil.


In a bid to accredit one for his teachings, he first entices one with desires. There are so much desires in this world that give temporal satisfaction. For example, if you need financial pleasure, devil can first approach you with an advice on how and where to get fund. At this stage is where we can resist normally. Otherwise, if we give in to his advice, then we've become accredited for his full messages. He gets our attention by first attempting to temporarily satisfy our canal desires. If we make canal desires rule over our heart, then it's a form of writing an invitation letter to the devil for his preachings.

The moment one is connected to him, then he starts relaying his messages. Yielding to the first stage of the condemned attention getter is a sign of mutual covenant. Devil will easily not leave anyone he defeats by the early stage tactics. And the moment he defeats, the connection is initiated. He proceeds by persuading you to keep on with it since it doesn't harm you the start. He will never tell the end story. Teachings of the devil has no negative implication as one of its subjects. This is an hidden secret he keeps away from man because of his darkness.

So many people we find addicted to evil acts today have graduated from the school of the devil. In this school is where he teaches how to build a strong hold for worldly desires in their various hearts. Only God can help to break this evil covenant at that point.

Thank God for the valuable gift of Light He gave unto man. Christ has come to unveil the secret devil keeps from those he's mentoring. Jesus said, don't listen to him. He was referring to early stage of his counsel. When devil comes to you, he has come to tempt. When he tries to tempt, he starts by advising you with series of enticement. When you give in to his counsel, then he gets down your name with himself. He visits his candidates regularly to supply them with messages to satisfy their pleasures. It appears as he's doing your will but invariably you're being captured by soul. Still, he won't never reveal there is destruction awaiting.

When he checked his list, he couldn't find Jesus. The light has come to show you the destruction awaiting every candidate of the devil. Your name too can be found missing with the devil today only if you believe in the name of Jesus. Christ said, the road widely open is free, but the endpoint is destruction. Come to Jesus today, you'll be saved from the bondage of the devil.

ichuka:
1cor14:32
The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets.
These verse said it all.
You must control ur gift not the other way round.
If bible study is from 5pm to 6:30pm every Wednesday in ur church.you must not exceed that time.thats been in control of the gift/spirit.
Our God isn't a God of confusion.
His orderliness stands.a man has one covering that's God.but women has two which are God and man.thats Gods arrangement from the begining.
Any woman that's not ministering through a head won't last with God.

The spirit of the prophets. The quote is okay but not pleased with the application. I still stand on the point that we can't decide for God. Yet, didn't say gifts shouldn't be controlled.

Tell me, what are the factors responsible for building a long lasting relationship with God

jcross19:
yes! some wise women will employed a man as preacher.

True. But that doesn't mean they can't preach if that's what the spirit of God is demanding at the moment!

ichuka:
Rom11:29
for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
By the above verse any body can exercise Gods gift.either he/she is born again or not.
The key here is submission.submission to her parent or husband and she must be under a man of God regarding her ministry.
Women aren't suppose to take major role in church.
They must speak or minister through a head.

What if the spirit of God at the moment is demanding her to speak to the congregation? Let's try to always balance the scripture! Christ gave His body and blood nor one and leaving another. We can't dictate to the spirit how He should work. Leave God with the decision!

K

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jcross19:
A woman should not allow to take charge of a church. ask yourself why Jesus Christ did not have female as a disciple !!! the way they handle things then you will understand what I mean.

Okay, I would agree. Now, we can better say when God calls a woman, she should also involve men as front supporters for the ministry.

Lol

Alright. It is a good thing to be blessed. But God's so much concerned with our motives for implementing every bit of actions. For me, I would ask, without bias, I already said to acquire a jet is not bad. But for what purpose? How does it affect the kingdom or profit God?

jcross19:
yes you are right Paul did not say woman can't be used by God but they should be submissive to the authority of the man in the church that's woman should be not allow to lead in the church. God see His church as a Kingdom and in the kingdom of God woman is not allowed to be a ruler . Now check the story of the Israelite since the day they became kingdom no woman has ever rule them till date so check it well.

Hmmm... I think you need to describe the ruling you mean. Meanwhile, I have a question. Do you consider someone who's being ruled by the spirit of God to be at the same time ruled by the spirit of man?

Really, I don't mean to overwrite submissiveness but as long as the spirit is in control of the called. If God never wants women in His kingdom, then He wouldn't call and give them authority.

Maybe I don't understand. Tell describe the ruling you meant

ichuka:
She Must have a covering over her head that she's 100% submissive to.
If not she can't control the gift of God in her life with time.

You're right. I'm sure she does. However, no one can control the gift of God without being first submissive to the spirit of God and His Word. Once she has this, surely her way is right!

Praise God

vikithor:
Thank you our great God,am part of those who believes that Joel 2:28 also meant God can so anoint our women for the work of the ministry

Exactly!

Great message

The comparison between JW and Catholic is just as the case of Pharisees and Sadducees

Recently, this ministry celebrated the anniversary of her calling into God's vineyard. The following was a brief presented. It was indeed a powerful message and great testimony. Find the time to read carefully. I'm sure you'll gain something.


The Calling & Ministry of Prophetess Beatrice Deborah Hephzibah - General Overseer, Christ Possibility Church Worldwide

Background

Beatrice Deborah Hephzibah, who was formerly called Saudat, was born into the family of Mr & Mrs Ojumola who belonged to Islamic religion. The family hails from Auga, an undersized settlement in the Akoko North-Eastern part of Ondo State, Nigeria. Her birth was said to have been surrounded by some mysterious circumstances being the first born of the family.

Her childhood growth witnessed divine favour from God. Meanwhile, the discovery of her potential to sing brought her out among others. According to her experience at high school, she was installed as a leader for the Muslim school Choir.

Despite that Saudat who became Beatrice Deborah Hephzibah was in the Islamic religion, yet, the plan of God for her life was never altered. She was said to have been manifesting in the doctrines of Christianity through her dreams to the physical realm during her tender age (dreamt of standing among multitudes, praying and imparting the people in the name of Jesus Christ). At then, she was a muslim.

She has been audibly hearing from God ever since her teenage. This has served as a prophetic guide for her path. It has helped her overcome one of the challenges that intended to stand as obstacles to her being fulfilled of purpose; and this was the threat to swear an oath of commitment to Islam which she was asked participate therein. Along her way together with a muslim mate to take the oath, she heard an audible voice spoke to her that she mustn’t participate, for that was never the true way. She halted, told her friend (the muslim mate) and departed.

However, clarity about the purpose of God in her life as a vessel began to unfold when she attained the age of 22 years having left her hometown for Akure. It began with the raising of a dead 2-year old boy. God instructed Beatrice to pray to some water, and then sprinkle it upon the child. This she did and the dead boy came back to life. Meanwhile, it can be recalled in the history that Late Apostle Joseph Ayo Babalola, a great God’s general who founded Christ Apostolic Church, experienced similar miracle (God raised a dead child through him at his age 24). This is a clear indication that the call is evident, high and cannot be sidelined from the kind of Babalola’s Apostleship.

The marvelous event caused her to strongly believe in the power containing the name of Jesus Christ. She totally got converted and joined a Christian Church. But she had never started any Ministry yet in spite of the pre-signs God was showing to affirm the call.

The Calling & Ministry

Similar to the Old Testaments Prophets, Beatrice was called by God into the prophetic office to stand before men and kings. Hers was a specific and personal call.

The main purpose of God came to pass when she attained the age of 30 years. This happened when God changed her name from Saudat to Beatrice, meaning consecration for a special assignment. Beatrice’s strange experiences continued as she faced lots of difficulties about her job following her refusal to comply with God’s instruction to leave what was earning her income and pick up the cross which is her primary assignment. She had once been clothing artisan, habouring apprenticeship. Later, she went into trading business. Beatrice who was formerly Saudat never got success in any of these, and rather, the latter was even the worse case for her. The situation became as disgust as no description, then she was advised by some men of God to follow but the voice of the sovereign Lord about her specific purpose.

However, by Beatrice, this advice was never sufficient. Similar to the case of one of the Judges in the Holy Scripture, Gideon, she went back to God and asked for signs. God accepted the deal and showed her more than 6 signs and wonders. These signs and wonders were the healing of 4 deadly diseases which included 3 men with kidney disease called Anemia. Another sign God gave were the healing of the woman with mental problem and another 6 months paralytic woman who happened to be her biological mother (the one who vowed to stop her from leaving the Islamic path to Christianity), fulfilling the Word of God that He would also establish a sign and wonder in her family. The Lord said through her, chains will be broken, the blind will see, the sick will be healed, the barren will be made fruitful, the oppressed will be freed, the unfortunate will make success, the dumb will speak, the deaf will hear, lame will walk, the dead will come back to life and peace which come through salvation will come upon whoever hears and receives her message. This marked the commencement of her Ministry.

Having undergone series of fasting and prayer, she began the proclamation of the Gospel. On a mountain she was at a period of time during prayer when she received the visitation of 4 men who appeared to her. These great men were Late Joseph Ayo Babalola, founder of Christ Apostolic Church; Late Oshofa, founder of Celestial Church of Christ; Late Moses Orimolade, founder of Cherubim and Seraphim Church; and Pastor E.A. Adeboye, General Overseer of the Redeemed Christian Church of God. They came to pay her a spiritual courtesy visit and also to encourage her of the work of the service. After their departure and the trance, she asked God for the meaning. God replied that the significance of their appearance to her meant her ministry would operate in the entire four men’s she saw.

She began with fellowship on the mountain with 6 members in 2008. At this point was when God gave her a Word for the ministry, including set of instructions and promises. He said nothing shall be impossible for Him to do as far as her ministry is concerned. This birthed the name “Kosohuntoluwa Kolese”.

Some of the instructions God gave were that she mustn’t request reward of any form from anyone, especially for curing of diseases and healing. He also continued by instructing her not to establish any structure until after 4 years from when she started her ministry. And she must await the sign He would show in order to confirm His approval which He did on February 15, 2013 when the foundation of this first branch (Ori-oke Koshuntoluwa Kolese – Tabernacle of Possibilities) we’re in was established. Indeed, the establishment of Christ Possibility Church is a product of God’s directive.

Lately this year, God called His servant, Beatrice, by two names. These are Hephzibah and Beulah, adding to what she already bears, as an indication of a new covenant.

God established His covenant of possibility and promises with the Ministry, Christ Possibility Church. He mentioned that through the Ministry, Truth will be revealed to all men, giant armies will be raised for Christ, the kingdom of darkness will be uninstalled, and its light will shine across all nations of the world. These are the vision and mission statements God has given to the Ministry according to His promises.

The Ministry has never departed from the path God set even amidst gross challenges and persecutions. We believe in the undiluted Word of God that comes only through the illumination from the Holy Spirit. We have been spreading the gospel across villages, towns and cities through revivals and crusades, based on the direction of God’s Spirit. Morever, through the Ministry, God has raised godly men for His gospel, salvation has encountered lost souls and men have experienced breakthrough, healing and deliverance. Recently, God has extended the branch of the Ministry to Ikare Town in Akoko, Ondo State, Nigeria. And we pride in where God is taking us to. These are our testimonies and achievements in the name of Christ Jesus Our Lord and Saviour.

Source: https://m.facebook.com/notes/christ-possibility-church/the-calling-ministry/1427343650738903/?_rdc=1&_rdr

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