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Chukdobz20:
Oga, don't let your opinion becloud your sense of Reasoning. No be only you have ever lived abroad. Every Nigerian are subjected to profiling whether you agree or not. I live in Europe and have been profiled many times whenever i flash my Nigerian Passport. I have been profiled in a European bank they told me Nigeria is classified as high risk country. They may not tell you physically but the know. Many Nigerians are in prison (i know one personally) from bank wire fraud. I work in IT manny times we flag alot of phishing attempts traced to Nigerian IP. I have watched a lot of documentaries on EU, US, AU national TV's on the Nigerian scam - Romance scam and Bec -Business email compromised. So don't think nobody knows all this.

Oh! They profile on people with Green Passports? they don't profile Ghanaians and other Black people from Africa, right? No wahala. LOL. By the way, that's not what we are discussing here, we are discussing what EFCC is doing. Are you saying it's right? provided they the bigger thieves are collecting the smaller thieves properties and money right? bursting into people's home without petition, going from one street to the other looking for 'Yahoo boys'. OK nah

yemex04:
Sentiments against who exactly? I agree if you say I have sentiments against all corrupt people who in whatever guise make life difficult for the innocent people (corrupt politicians or fraudsters)I support war against them both!! What I am against is you advocating one should be left for the other

Yes there are petitions from some of the foreigners defrauded and that's why you see collaborated efforts with the fbi to arrest some guys and even in the absence of petitions, how about the unnecessary and strigent profiling Nigerians face whenever they seeking visa abroad? Are you telling me the cybercrime isn't a factor?

Obviously it's you that has soft spot for those engaging in cybercrime.. What's bad is bad you stop justifying evil deeds because you or family are not victims.

Have you traveled abroad before? In the abroad they know Nigeria as a very corrupt country with bad leaders who are looting the country dry and they see Nigerians as drug dealers not yahoo boys, do you know why? because the victims don't know they are being scammed by one black boy in Africa. That's not the point, my point is, is it lawful for EFCC to go from street to street arresting any boy living in 2-3 bedroom flats and has a car? is it lawful for them to wait by The Eko Atlantic gate and arrest over 30 boys? is it lawful for them to just come to your apartment without any petition from your fraud victim? is it lawful as they are collecting money and cars from the boys and selling them and sharing the money amongst themselves starting from their ogas at the top? just answer those questions without sentiments bro.

desperatem:
I will like to know too. Lawyers in the house, is what Efcc doing constitutional? They came to abule egba last weekend, going from street to estate to arrest people. The big yahoo boys who has money to pay had been bailed. The not so rich ones are still in efcc custody. They saw a benz parked in Beckly estate but they don’t who parked it so they were asking one small girl on the street if she knows the owner of the benz and where the owner lives. Lol

I'm not surprised. If the small girl had pointed the house of the owner of the Benz to them, they would have jump the fence into the person's compound and arrest him for being a yahoo boy because he parked a Benz outside. EFCC doesn't wait on petition from the fraud victims. they just go about arresting young boys who are looking fresh. They are arresting those boys for their own personal gains. Imagine you are an EFCC boss and your basic salary is about 400k. But you're seeing more than 30 million a month from arresting supposed fraudster who are not defrauding Nigerians and who are not soiling Nigeria name in anyways because they don't tell their victim they live in Nigeria or that they are Nigerian. If you are the EFCC boss seeing such money in a month, would you want to stop arresting the boys? would you wait on petition from someone scammed? we all know the answer. So what EFCC is doing is not constitutional

yemex04:
This about making another innocent souls elsewhere to cry to enrich yourselves.. some their entire life savings!!! You put innocent people into eternal agony and for you to be living large on the sweats of others..


As for the bigger thieves, they will meet their Waterloo!! The judgement of God will come upon them..

As for those who think the only option to make it in life is to make other cry even (those in secondary schools are already seeing it a lucrative career), you are even worst than the "corrupt leaders"

You are talking with sentiments. We know it's bad defrauding people. But EFCC is simply robbing the small thieves (yahoo boys). Do you think EFCC are selling the fraudsters properties and giving the money to the fraud victims? or do you think they monies are being given to the US government? EFCC are arresting supposed fraudsters without any petition from the victims.

Saao:
hmm the way your defended these people may u not a victim. They don't only defrauded whites, they defraud Nigerians too. No matter how u try to sound nice, fraud is bad and must be avoided or dealt with.

You're funny. If you had read my post carefully, you would know I wasn't talking about the scammers scamming Nigerians. By the way, do you think EFCC even have time for those ones, I mean the one trying to get into your Nigeria bank account to take your 5k 10k, lol. EFCC are not interested in those ones because those ones can't pay millions for bail and they can't pay a surety 250k. Any fraudster who defraud a Nigerian on Nigerian soil should be investigated, tried and sentenced. But what concerns EFCC with Nigerians using white pic, white name to defraud citizens of other countries? If EFCC wants to act like Jesus, they should sell off the properties of those yahoo boys and send to the victims or give the money to the country's embassy here in Nigeria. If we start holding EFCC accountable, you would all see that EFCC arrest 14 boys in Ibadan, 20 in Edo, 8 in Lagos and 30 in Enugu would reduce because they know they won't gain anything so they won't 'ginger' to do their dirty jobs again

yemex04:
I hate it when Nigerians especially we the youth quickly point to ''our leaders" to justify crimes and other wrong things.. Attitudes like this only show how horrible the future would be for Nigeria as the up coming generations of leaders would be worst going by submissions such as yours..

No one is justifying anything. But wait, you'd rather justify the case of the big thieves robbing the small thieves? There are bigger hackers, fraudsters in almost every country bro. The Russians, Ukrainians and the Chinese are pulling big games, but you won't see their law enforcement agent running after them as far as they did not defraud their countrymen/women

tutudesz:
Searched naked, abeg which country you don travel go before were Dem nake you to search

Don't mind these kids who has never left the shore of Nigeria before.

Saao:
Op are you into yahoo? Your write up fully supported fraudsters. Let me remind you, effc is doing the right and its legal. The world is a global village and we signed so many bilateral with other nations on money laundries and other crimes.

Talking from experience if you travel out of the country, your passport is a suspect, you will be searched naked like common criminals because of the atrocities of yahoo boys. There are many that loose their money to yahoo boys that died of heart Attack, and so on.

You are so funny bro. I have been traveling abroad since 2014. They don't know Nigerians as a scammer abroad, they know Nigerian as a corrupt country with corrupt 'leaders'. The fraud victims don't even know they are being scammed by a Nigerian so get your fact right. I want to say this and you can confirm it from any source, Nigeria is not even in the top 3 when it comes to fraud. You need to travel more bro. I have been to a lot of countries both in Asia and South America. They don't care if you're into fraud there, they just want you to make your money and spend it in their own economy. The only time you can run into problem is when you scam their citizen.

If you are a religious person, this thread is not for you because religion people use their sentiments instead of logic. This thread is about logical reasoning and following the right steps even if you want to investigate and arrest a fraudster. If you read about the Russian Oligarchy, The Rothschild, the Israelis, you will know how this world works. I don't want to say much. I just want to know if EFCC have the right to storm into a street and pack all supposed yahoo boys, even if they are yahoo boys, did they scam a Nigerian? did they tell their victims they are Ciroma Adekunle Chukwuma from Nigeria? Logically thinking, what the boys are doing does not in any way affect the Nigeria Image, what affects it is what the politicians and our leaders are doing. The days of "The Nigerian Prince" is over. Nowadays the boys tell their victim they are in US, Mexico, Turkey, Germany, Hong Kong and so on. I don't need to talk much.

The question is, is what EFCC doing constitutional, if yes, what part of the constitution or penal code says it. and why are they sharing what they seize from the 'Yahoo boys' instead of sending it abroad to the victims or better still send it to the US Government through the US Embassy in Nigeria.

b3llo:
Slawomirr what do you have to say about this

This is not about anyone, it's for enlightenment purpose

Normally, if EFCC wants to work accordingly, they should not be on the street going from house to house, looking for 'Yahoo boys'. They should wait for a petition from the victim, after the petition they should try and find the scammer, arrest him (after a concrete evidence) take all his properties gotten from fraud money, sell them off and send the money to the victim and jail the fraudster. If that is what EFCC have been doing, I would support them 100%.

But imagine EFCC going to arrest a "Yahoo boy' in Eko Atlantic, Lagos. After arresting the boy, they now parked their Hilux bus and Jeeps somewhere along the road that leads to Eko Atlantic, they now started stopping cars and once they see you're a young man they will arrest you. At first, I argued with that EFCC can't stoop so low. I thought those were EFCC impersonators, until the people packed on the road were taken to EFCC Ikoyi.

After they released one of our bank customers, that was when I know why EFCC is 'fighting corruption' by arresting 'Yahoo boys'. The boy told me he paid 4 Million Naira (4.7 was found in his account) and he was released afterwards. And he was given a document to sign that they didn't take his cars and gold chain from him. There is a document which you would sign, it contains what was in your possession as at time of arrest but cars, gold chain is never included in the document, so once you sign it, it means they didn't collect your cars and gold.

Now ask yourself this, do you think if EFCC are not making a lot of money as much as 300 million monthly in Lagos alone (from a reliable source) from going to one street and the other packing 'Yahoo boys' without any petition from any victims, do you think EFCC would put so much effort in 'arresting' the yahoo boys? This was how the Sars menace started. When Sars were releasing as much as 2 million per day from arresting yahoo boys, they enjoyed the money and got used to it. Imagine a Sars officers having 2 houses of his own and 2 wives and 4 cars.

I know defrauding people off their money is bad but how does that affect Nigeria? Which part of the Nigeria penal code or whatever says you can be arrested for a crime you didn't do on a Nigeria soil? Or arrest a Nigerian for defrauding other people nationals (the victims don't even know they are being scammed by a Nigerian) they often think they are cat-fished by a fellow White or a Russian.

If EFCC wants to act righteous (We all know Nigeria is one of the most religious and most corrupt country in the world) EFCC should seize the properties of the supposed 'Yahoo boys' sell the properties and send the money to the victims, if they can't find the victims they should send the money to the US Embassy in Abuja/Lagos.

Hi fellow Nairalanders, My purpose of creating this thread is for educational and equity purpose. I didn't create it to support fraud, it's for educational purpose. It's a long one but I will try to make it as short as possible. Please Mod put this on the FP to gain a wider view and comments.

This thread prompted me to create this thread https://www.nairaland.com/6395613/nigerian-man-arrested-india-duping (in this thread the Nigerian guy was arrested because he scammed an Indian woman and the woman reported to the police.

Do you think it's lawful as EFCC go about arresting 'Yahoo Boys' and seizing their properties? Please understand me, I am not justifying fraud but how does what the people defrauding other people nationals affect Nigeria? Like a news I read last Month, A Nigerian living in the abroad for a couple of years came back to Nigeria and he was arrested because he was doing 'fraud' in the abroad. Let's assume the guy is truly doing fraud in the abroad how did it affect Nigeria/Nigerians? He did not defraud Nigerians.

Trust me, we have yahoo boys living both in Nigeria and abroad, but as a banker I have spoken to a lot of them and I asked them how they go about it. Firstly they use a White man/woman pic, secondly, they don't tell their victims that they are Nigerians, thirdly they don't even tell their victims that they are in Nigeria. They make their victims think they are White, living in US, sometimes Germany, China etc and when it's time for the victim to pay, the victim pays into a foreign account, this is where the boys need Aboki account. The victims don't pay into First Bank, Union Bank or to Nigeria, they pay to a foreign account where the scammer says he/she is living.

To be continued below