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Nusaf:
He sold the car (not to a dealer) about three weeks ago at N1.07m.

And your point is?

If he knew he could sell it himself, why go to the dealer in the first place, so you expected the dealer to buy for 1.07m and what will he do with the car afterwards? Eat it? Won't he want to sell it again for some PROFIT? Or maybe, after buying 1.07m from your friend he puts it up for sale for 1.2m and you guys will come here shouting "greedy dealer, greedy dealer"

Do you think dealers are in biz for charity? Are you this charitable in your own line of biz or are you being hypocritic cos it's car dealers involved now??

Nusaf:
Been following your comments on this thread and I quite understand and agree with your analyses but this one doesn't just appeal to me.

A friend wanted to change his car (Toyota Corrola, 05), well maintained. He took it to the dealers. While the dealers where emphasising on the high forex on one hand for the new car he wanted to buy, same dealers were pricing his Corrola Sport for N800k on the account that he had bought it for about N1.5m and used same for about 3 yrs, on the other hand.

Actually, having used a car for that long, its value is expected to depreciate but in the wake of high exchange which is reflected on car prices, why shouldn't consideration be given to same prevailing exchange rate while pricing the registered car?

Meanwhile, a graded tokunbo of same brand hovered around N2.5m.

Not totally saying there are no greedy dealers but, in this scenario, what you described as "well maintained" 90% of the times turns out to have issue that will require hundreds of thousands to fix before resales, and you can imagine if he didn't buy it for the 800k, where will the profit come from.

Almost all naija car users /sellers lie to dealers about issues on their cars, all will claim is sound and perfect, sadly, no matter how good you are at checking for faults, some faults will only manifest after a long drive and by then you've already bought, I'm speaking from experience, so I always assume and prepare for the worst when buying these cars from users, so I'll definitely not be buying at a high price, so Ill be abLe to fix whatever issue comes up and still be able to sell at a profit

ismokeweed:
Please what are the cheaper alternatives? You know we have to consider maintenance due to our death traps called roads. Was thinking of mazda or nissan but wss warned not to try it.

Those same people warning you not to try it, are part of the reasons why dealers keep ripping buyers off, everyone says "buy toyota" and as a dealer it's easy for me cos toyota has been made to be the new cocaine, I'll jack up my prices

Nigerians be crying over toyota cars as if na by force, pls is it a must to buy the overpriced toyota cars?

The smart ones are daily dumping the overhyped and overpriced brand and seeking cheaper alternatives and some others wan die on top corolla matter, and you blame the dealers for keying in on the obsession abi

Also, simple logic demands this : if you believe the dealer is greedy for selling the S40 at 900k or 1m, solution is simple, take your 500k or 600k whichever you suppose is the fair price, buy and ship the car from abroad, pay the duties, effect the little necessary repairs and splash water on that greedy dealer on your way home

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Sound engine and gear
Factory AC
First body paint and still neat interior
Less than a year used

Price : 550k

Location : Ikeja, Lagos

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tolulope855:
Can I whatsapp you?

Why not? Haven't I made my number available for that purpose?

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Sound engine and automatic transmission
Factory AC
Neat interior
Keyless entry
Buy and drive

Price: 800k

Location : Ikeja, Lagos

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OP, deep down in your mind you already know the car you want to buy, but instead of you to go buy your car in peace, you want to come seek and get some attention first.

If everyone who makes enough money to buy a car comes here to disturb our peace then I assure you, nairaland will have an average of 50 of these types of thread on a daily basis.

Scam, where are the mods when you need them

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valarinz:
Sound engine and automatic transmission
Factory AC chilling
Neat leather /fabric interior
Good tyres
Dentless body

Price : 580k

Location : Ikeja, Lagos

Call/whatsapp : 08032897486
Calls only : 09091219734

NB : Vehicle must be physically inspected and verified before any form of payment.

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valarinz:
Sound engine and gear
Neat body and interior
Full duty paid on this vehicle

Price: 2.2m

Location : Isolo

Call/whatsapp: 08032897486
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valarinz:
Sound engine and automatic transmission, XLE specs
Ignition Thumbstart
Factory AC
Neat leather interior
Full duty payment

Price : 3.8m

Location : Ikeja, Lagos

Call / whatsapp : 08032897486
Calls only : 09091219734

NB : Vehicle must be physically inspected and verified before any form of payment.

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Denn:
I have a simple question in this line.

If you had coincidentally had a flat tire at that same time, would you have attributed it also as a consequence of over heating?

So, you're saying it's a coincidence the brakes malfunctioned at the same time the engine overheated and went back to normal after it was back to normal, ok then, coincidence, tnx

Denn:
The mechanic and the driver are friends.

The mechanic is simply trying to protect his friend.

First, he claims the car was overheating. What is the procedure that a professional driver takes when the car overheats? Does he keep accelerating up to speeds that can cause serious damage via accident or drive slowly, park and sort the problem?

To those who mention hard brake pedal when engine is off and softer pedals when engine is running, it is simply the brake booster doing its work.

The only connection of a standard brake system to the engine is via a simple vacuum hose. The temperature of the engine has virtually no relationship with the brake system; except the car was literally burning and fire was gutting everything.

And by the way, was your fabled mechanic a forensic expert? How was he able to do a post-accident evaluation that made him conclude so confidently that engine overheating caused the accident?

Your company needs a more honest mechanic

I was once driving down from oshodi to ikeja on heavy traffic, was using my car AC too, suddenly I noticed I had to depress the brakes twice as hard to avoid hitting the vehicle in front of me, temperature gauge was still showing it at the middle where it should be (a fault with the gauge which I never knew about till this incidence occured), looking at the dashboard and everything seemed fine I kept driving and the brake stuff was getting worse and I was already contemplating on how to go and get my brakes checked out. Next thing I saw was vapor coming out of my bonnet and the hissing, alas, my car was overheating, quickly pulled off the road before engine went off and waited for it to cool off and bled with water before I continued.

Now, after this, the brakes went back to performing normally once more, now can you pls assist in providing an explanation as to why the incident with the brakes did happen. Vehicle in question was a 2004 Volvo S60, 2.4l turbo engine. I'll be waiting as this forms a major basis for my conviction that the mechanic the OP talked about do have a point.

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adanny01:
Its best to just give your opinion without critisizing others.

The Vacuum booster or vacuum servo assists the driver in pushing the break pedal using the engine vacuum. I am not aware or cant imagine how high engine temperature could affect this system. As long as there is vacuum input, the servo should work fine.

However, i tend to agree with you that a loss of vacuum may seem to a less vigilant driver like the break has failed but may only need to press the pedal harder since there is no assist from the servo.

What i cannot relate is the connection between engine temperature and break system. I personally feel there is none.

Like I said, I might not have the big grammar or plenty explanations of the car systems, cos naturally I despise long long stories, but like you pointed out, temporarily during that period of engine malfunction due to overheating the brake no longer performs well(due to the loss of vaccum), and you'll have to depress harder to get the desired result (mind you this is something I've experienced personally, not what I read on the internet), so as far as the mechanic is concerned, that's "brake failure" as a result of overheating, so, don't throw him under the bus, tnx

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3kay945:
With my little knowledge,.. The day my car overheated,. I felt serious vibration on the brake.

This is simply what I believe the mechanic is letting the OP know, that moment while driving when the engine overheats, the brake will misbehave, yet all i see here is everyone trying to show off big grammar and their Internet knowledge of car systems,

It is well

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Duplicate thread, mods pls delete, lalasticlala

Oya, bring that cash

searchng4love:
Your head is empty.

Don't resort to Insults, it's only a shortcut out, kindly disprove all the points I stated above, tnx

searchng4love:
No they are two independent systems.... Brake system and cooling system... Brake ... Pads callipers... Oil etc master cylinder etc.
The cooling system consists of a radiator.. temperature sensor... Thermostat... Cooling fans ... And the coolant fluid..
They're absolutely apart.
Modified:
Brake binding can cause overheating issues though.

Internet car gurus everywhere, so you also don't know that when you place you legs on your brake and it seems stiff, turning on the car engine makes it soften and goes down a bit more

So you're saying that even when a car engine goes gaga due to overheating in motion and you meet an emergency and depress the brakes it will still perform perfectly as when the engine is running fine. I've personally witnessed it on a couple of occasions oga, while driving and the vehicle overheats and the brakes also become stiffer and requires more pressing down to achieve desired results

At times it's best to leave commenting to the people who handle cars of different status on regular basis ie the mechanics/dealers, cos an issue which you've probably never experienced in all your years of driving your personal car is something they've had to encounter on a regular basis

For the OP, I might not have the diagrams or big grammar to illustrate my point, but your mechanic has a point, tnx

More

Sound engine and automatic transmission
Factory AC chilling
Neat leather /fabric interior
Good tyres
Dentless body

Price : 580k

Location : Ikeja, Lagos

Call/whatsapp : 08032897486
Calls only : 09091219734

NB : Vehicle must be physically inspected and verified before any form of payment.

Thanks

SOLD!! SOLD!!!