MrBigiman:


That lady knows more than any consultant except surgeons. She must have filed an appeal in court why she alone should not resume.

That yeye auxiliary

Cc... Amarabae
Jman

kenzysmith:
Falz u re a disgrace to this country your father that is a chief judge in this nation is one of the of most corrupt judge in this country please you. Made the people here in south africa made jest of me yesterday with that musical vedio that verily must be bound you dey make job they hard for yahoo boys down here with that vedio Falz I think say u be guy man

Are you alright at all?

oshe11:
Yeah.....


Editted it....


That goal pained me sha....

Dude just run come out come chop chipping

E pain me die... I no get strength take breakfast that day

oshe11:
Aina shud go and sleep

No be Ajiboye keep for the under 23 that year nah. That keeper nah Ambrose Vanzekin

When real meets real

Dino..the bloody coward

God bless Adewole for his timely intervention.

MrBigiman:
The deceptive power house called Johesu may have been tamed forever. Few weeks back health workers apart from Doctors who constitute Johesu was blatantly denied by their members, despite their ghastly accident.

Yesterday the government asked Johesu members to resume work in 72hrs or consider their jobs lost. Few hours later however, the hospital admin, lawyers and accountants have resumed against the unholy directive by the Johesu president and are infact preparing sack letters for their colleagues. In a shameful twist Johesu has denied that the admin of the hospital are actually their members claiming they are not health related workers.

The shame Johesu keep brandishing will stop here.

Chief... I dey feel you die.
Keep up the good work. I'm always eager to read your posts here.

Your posts give those folks arrhythmias

Cc : Amarabae

Unigrad:
You have cancer of the brain.

Have some sense nah... on top ordinary nairaland nma/johesu wahala Maka why

Fayose is a big joke nah..

unbitchable:

Of course he won it with Man Utd, not for Man Utd cos he had an awful finals as he has always been. And with Portugal, he was a ghost. Bale,having been the best EPL player, he came in and gave Madrid what ronald couldn't have done without him(Bale)

Did you just say he had an awful final in 2008
The joke is on you

phase1:


Hunger? Do you know how much private pharmacies and diagnostic laboratories owned by Johesu members make in a day? Lol.

Why not tell me about the number of labs and pharmacies the record guys, ward assistants, the generator guys and the admin guys have too..
Wake up !!!!

veeklin:


a robot has been spotted...... a lazy Nigerian youth, that keeps posting the same message from post to post.... and u are still laughing on top of ur stupidity... smh

See this asshole. The simpleton is in pains. He had to quote the same post twice.
Hunger would reset your brain very soon .
Useless set of people !!

veeklin:


lol.... sack threats doesn't move any union again, especially one that is made up of professionals.

and it's "amorphous" and not "amorphpus".....well u didn't do standard organic chemistry, so how will u ever get the spelling right, not to mention the meaning of the word.... smh

Keep wailing from thread to thread. The pain is palpable .

You folks will be replaced and the heaven won't fall.

MrBigiman:


You are too young to understand what goes on in government. Back in the day NLC terrorized the government. Johesu couldn't come near to NLC's venom. Today NLC is a praise singing group, hoping that the louder they sing, then probably the government will tilt to their demand. Johesu is minutes from joining that praise singing group which will only get crumbs from singing loud praise songs to the government.

During the previous government, Johesu bribed judges and payed influential people to buy unwarranted favour. Today, the monster called corruption is dying and only praise singing can hand u some crumbs that u actually don't deserve.

Heard Ayim Pius Ayim's wife was the arrow head of their conspiracy during the last administration.

Jman06:
Bring it on!!!

But if you eventually fail, shame on you!

You better smell the coffee.

Jman06:
I pray the minister of NMA would make any stupid move that would hasten his sack and
bring on the much needed revolution in our health sector.

Johesu's bluff is about to be called and the heaven won't fall.

MrBigiman:


Wise one bro. Growing up I knew Lab technicians to be support staffs and semiskilled labour, same as nurses. Over the years they have increased the length of their course, and called them selfs professionals, yet their role has not changed. Offering a 25% increase in Salary is a big hand of fellowship and their rejecting it only shows how ungrateful they are. In 72hrs a replacement will be shopped.

You are right boss. Keep up the good work !!

omozu1:
The minister should be sack because he is on the side of the doctors
Buhari please take note

How is he on the side of doctors

It is the Amorphous body vs FG.. wetin carry doctors enter the issue now

It's about to go down.

I hope this action doesn't mess up the whole situation completely.

danilmo:


that was the bloody pharm D dispenser I gave 5 preclinical cases last week in one other thread, if the guy will answer 1, that will b tomorrow...

I mean common anatomy questions I and my colleague normally use to ginger our self after class

he told me to DM him , I did, we only greeted,
after the greeting I kept on waiting for answer..

he was lucky sha coz I planned to upload his mumu answer online

he say him na pharm D . = Medical doctor without surgery

That dude is a charlatan.

frankpro27:


Loooosers

Quack dispenser

frankpro27:


Lol. As a Pharm. D holder. I do everything a doctor does in the hospital aside surgery. Wat can u say about dat? I make nothing less than a million every month. Nd doctors don't knw anything about drugs, aside name Nd usage. Most of dem don't even knw the dosing, not to talk of side effect, mechanism of action Nd interactions. I personally ve a photocopying machine for all d blunders I receive as prescriptions from doctors. This war is just starting

This is the height of delusion. What is the everything a doctor does that you do oga dispenser

rottentomatoes:
PRESS CONFERENCE DELIVERED BY THE CHAIRMAN OF NIGERIAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION (NMA), FCT CHAPTER, DR. CHIEDOZIE JUDE ACHONWA TO STATE THE POSITION OF THE NMA WITH RESPECT TO THE ONGOING STRIKE ACTION BY JOHESU AT THE CONFERENCE HALL OF FEDERAL MEDICAL CENTRE, ABUJA ON TUESDAY,22ND MAY 2018.
Protocol
It is no longer news that JOHESU has been on strike for over a month now over sundry demands which include among others equal pay with medical doctors, headship of our public hospitals. Since the strike commenced, the Nigerian Medical Association (NMA) FCT has been following up on matters arising from it. We would ordinarily have ignored JOHESU as it concerns her ongoing strike but we are at the moment constrained to respond and put the record straight to debunk JOHESU’s deliberate peddling of falsehood, twist of facts, misinformation and manufacture of non-existent figures just to hoodwink and get the sympathy of the innocent and unsuspecting public who may tend to believe their propaganda if we keep quiet. While unionism and activism is encouraged, it must not be carried to the extreme with the delusion that the system can always be brought to its knees for unreasonable, baseless and reckless demands to be acceded to. The NMA wishes to state clearly that the ongoing JOHESU strike is essentially against medical doctors in particular, and the peace-loving Nigerians in general. The unnecessary strike, we must let Nigerians know, is centered on quest for equal pay with Medical doctors as well as leadership (clinical governance) contestation in our hospitals.
Naturally when a sick person visits the Hospital, it is to see a medical doctor to get cured of his/her ailment. In getting the patient cured, several other factors come into play between the doctor and the patient. It is within these factors that the allied healthcare professionals play their supportive roles. It must however, be emphasized that these support staff only act upon the instruction or directive of the doctor. This is the standard practice world over, and is the concept of governance in clinical practice which Nigeria cannot be an exception. Apart from the fact that the training of a medical doctor is all encompassing (it covers all the fields of other healthcare professionals in addition to the core patient care and management), it is the doctor that is held accountable should anything go wrong in the overall management of the patient. Nigerians can therefore, be the judge as to who qualifies to be the leader of the health team.
While NMA appreciates the supporting roles being played by members of allied healthcare professionals and considers them important stakeholders in the health team, it is, however, in the best interest of this country for everyone to stay within their roles as team players. Nigerians need to understand that the Hospital is structured in such a way that every treatment/instruction must be directed from the medical doctor. No patient receives anything in the Hospital unless the doctor says so. The reason is not far-fetched. It is in the best interest of the patient so that he/she is not mishandled. The outcome is better imagined when a doctor gives instruction on patient’s management and the other healthcare workers also give separate and possibly conflicting directives on the same patient. It is akin to the proverb ‘’too many cooks spoil the broth’’. The unwarranted leadership contest in the health sector by JOHESU in recent years has led to several untold hardships on our patients with attendant avoidable loss of lives in some of our public health institutions. Comparison of Nigeria health indices between the remote past and recently shows that we fared better in the former when there was orderliness, strict observance of roles, and obedience of doctors’ command with respect to patient care. Questions must be asked while this unfortunate scenario doesn’t play out in private or public-private Hospitals. The answer is obvious; everybody knows his/her boundary and must conform to laid down rules and organogram.
Concerning the quest by JOHESU to earn equal pay with doctors, it must be reiterated that NMA has never been against any wage or salary increase or adjustment for health workers. Rather, NMA has, in her numerous engagements, severally advocated for wage or salary increase for all Nigerian workers. It must be emphasized that what JOHESU is asking for is not necessarily increment in salary per se, but equal pay as doctors. They want government to pay them exactly the same amount as paid to doctors. Is a court clerk paid the same wage as a judge, or an air hostess as a pilot? The answer is definitely NO. It should be expected, therefore, that NMA will never allow JOHESU to use subterfuge and backdoor approach to become doctors. The universities are out there with clearly spelt-out guidelines for anyone who wishes to study Medicine and Dentistry. We wish to encourage JOHESU to take advantage of that rather than employing this back door approach to become ‘’doctors’’.
The concept of wage relativity is used in wage management to ensure that only equal job of equal value attract equal pay. This was succinctly and clearly stated in the judgement of National Industrial Court of Nigeria in 2006 and affirmed by same in 2013 in matters involving JOHESU. Relativity exists between the salaries of healthcare workers in the hospitals and their counterparts in other agencies and parastatals of government. Engineers, administrators and accountants in hospitals (members of JOHESU) earn between 2 to 3 times the salaries of their counterparts in the core public service. Whether this is deserved is not the question, but for the purpose of this conference, is it not contradictory, deceitful and ironical that the same healthcare workers who on one hand accepted an advantaged salary over their counterparts outside the health sector on same levels and steps will turn around to reject salary difference with the doctor who does a superior and different job from them?
Historical trend of salary award/adjustment and relativity:
Pre-independence to 1974: Practitioners of Medicine and Dentistry (medical and dental practitioners) were grouped in Senior Service Scale A which was the apex for remunerating public officers. The relativity between the salaries of medical doctors and graduates of other health sector was 1:1.58 at the entry point and 1:1.65 at the terminal point
1975: Udoji committee eroded the relativity in the health sector, and the ratio dropped to 1:1.27 at the entry point and 1:1.07 at the terminal. The NMA protested which led to the setting up of the Justice Atanda Fatai-Williams presidential committee to look into the complaints in 1990.
1991: Due to the findings of that committee, circular 1, 1991 containing two separate salary structures in the health sector was released. This was following the approval of the memorandum by the Federal Executive Council at its 11th meeting in 1990. It was an attempt to correct the distorted relativity. These were:
Medical System Scale (MSS) for consultants and below
Medical System Super Scale (MSSS) for consultants Special Grades I and II.
(A and B were contained in a single circular).
Health System Scale (RUSS/HSS) for other health care workers.
The relativity at the entry point was 1:1.28 and 1:1.2521 at the terminal.
1993: The 45% award on salaries for public officers in 1992 was implemented on the 8th of February 1993 for doctors to restore the relativity between MSS/MSSS and other salary structures.
However, on the 9th of February 1993, a 15% award was applied to other salaries through circular CND.26/S.5/Vol.IV/380 without corresponding application to MSS/MSSS. This brought down the relativity at the entry point to 1:1.1 and 1:1.94 at the terminal.
1995: The industrial arbitration panel award of professional allowances eroded the relativity. Consequently, NARD/NMA demanded for the restoration of 1:3.33 ratio prior to the award. In response government did a comparative analysis of salary/wages worldwide and found a relativity range of 1:2 to 1:2.7. Government eventually signed an agreement with NARD on a relativity of 1:2.5
1998: The Federal government carried out harmonization of salaries. The MSS/MSSS were harmonized into HATISS for doctors in tertiary institutions and HAPSS for those in regular public service. The NMA and NARD protested to the Federal Government on what they called ‘’drop in salary’’ for those who were paid HATISS. The Association rejected the HATISS structure and asked government to pay her members with HAPSS pending a possible correction of the error they observed in HATISS. This was approved by government.
NARD complained of a distortion in relativity as a result of the harmonization of salaries. The National Salaries, Income and Wages Commission(NSIWC) did half-hearted correction of the observed errors in the conversion of MSS/MSSS into the HATISS structure. These corrections were rejected citing inadequate address of the relativity problem observed. The relativity at the entry point was 1:1.2, at all other grades it dropped to 1:1
2001: The relativity of 1:2.5 (4:2:1.7) for call duty allowance was sustained.
2006 and 2013: JOHESU went to court to seek pay parity with Doctors at the NICN but that wasn’t granted.
2014: The NMA persistent protest led to the setting up of the Alhaji GoniAji presidential committee to look into her complaints in 2013. Consequently, the Federal government signed an agreement with the NMA on relativity at each grade level with CONHESS as the reference. A circular on the correction was issued on the 3rd of January, 2014. Relativity was 1:1.2 to 1:1.5
In all it dropped from 1.58 to 1.2 for fresh doctors, and from 1.65 to 1.5 for consultant Special Grade 1 and or a Professor of Medicine on full appointment in a Hospital.
We wish to, at this juncture, remind the government that NMA will not accept any attempt to further distort or erode the existing relativity as agreed and signed in the collective bargaining agreement of 2014. It is important to note that this agreement was reached with a lot of comprise and sacrifice already on the part of Nigerian doctors. It is worthy of note that members at the recently held NMA ADM unanimously resolved to utilize every means legitimate to forestall any attempt to disregard or breach the said agreement. It must be placed on record that NMA has put before government issues that border on universal health coverage, improvement of health facilities and equipment as well as issues regarding conditions of service. It is our hope that government, while engaging in dialogue on these matters with a view to making progress, will not precipitate another crisis by bowing and acceding to pressure from JOHESU.
Doctors in the FCT have been going about their legitimate duties in all public health facilities. They have had to go extra miles to cover for the absence of the allied health professionals in order to ensure service delivery to patients. Management of our public health institutions have been visited and encouraged to create an enabling environment for doctors to carry out their duties and we are very much satisfied with their cooperation. We wish to seize this opportunity to call on patients who may have mistakenly fallen for the propaganda of JOHESU that the entire health institutions have been locked down by their strike to visit and access care from our Hospitals.
We urge the allied health professionals to be reasonable in their demands, suspend their strike, return back to work to join the doctors to continue the good work for the benefit of the masses.
Dr. Chiedozie Jude Achonwa Dr. Abdullahi Nasiru
Chairman, NMA-FCT Secretary, NMA-FCT

No more..no less

Crowniey:

what are you saying Mr, everybody has the right to read whatsoever he or she desires. I choose to be a Nurse because I want to not because my brain capacity could not cope with medicines. I can assure you that I will as well pass in medicine if i choose to. so stop saying what you don't know. it's still the same five credit we both use during our admission process Mr.

5 credits for where
Dey there dey deceive yourself.
Nah same jamb and post utme cut off too abi

Amarabae:

You read Microbiology/Biochemistry.
I know your issue,
You thought that you will compete with Medical laboratory scientists in hospital laboratory but got a big shock.
So you are out to attack Johesu especially med lab scientists out of bitterness.
.
Tell me one johesu profession that your microbiology or biochemistry is better than!
Show some respect.
.
And about your issue of answering doc,
What do you call a non medical doctor with PhD?
So why making noise?
If someone who has no PhD neither is he a medical doctor is seen answering doctor, then it's wrong.
Don't generalize.

This is the same hypocrite who is fond of complaining about how doctors look down on everyone.
But the bitter auxilliary nurse is here thrashing microbiology and biochemistry.

By the way, scientists from the basic medical sciences such as biochemistry, biology and physiology are pioneering all the recent advancements in medicine .

E.g the guys that won nobel prize in medicine for their findings about the molecular mechanisms controlling circadian rhythm.

Lastly, doctors won't form cool cats anymore. We won't allow you charlatans to get via the backdoor what we toiled for with our sweat and blood.

xreal:


Just read your comment again, does it sound right?

Is Radiology a specialty in medicine like Opthalmology, O&G, paediatrics and so on?
If so, pharmacy should then be a specialty in medicine.

Back to your comment, if Radiologist and Radiographers are of different Unions, then something is wrong.

Supposed workers if same profession in different union.

Let me stop here.

Get your facts.

Listen to correction. Radiologists are specialist doctors.

nobilis:


LOL.

First of all, you quoted the wrong post to say this your rubbish.

See how you are just feeding yourself and your followers with deliberate misinformation.

Maybe you need to go and consult your pharmacy professors in school.

In Nigeria, pharmacists are not allowed to prescribe medications.
Only doctors are allowed to prescribe medications.

You can carry your head and hit it on the wall as many times as you please.
That is how it is.

You've not finished doing your own job and duty and you're trying to claim one of the duties of doctors.
Tomorrow you guys will say doctors are suppressing you when it is obvious that you guys are the ones overstepping your boundaries.

God bless you for your submissions so far.
Imagine those charlatans blaming doctors despite the fact that they are the major culprits.

The recent documentary by bbc was an eye opener. The dispensers dispense opoids and other control drugs without prescription just for pecuniary gains.

Their cups would be full very soon.

Losers

Amarabae:

Watch your emotions boy,
Uncontrolled emotions leads to rage and usage of foul language.
It makes someone to have a poor sense of humor and it breeds sadistic nature.

And by the way, you are the first medical student I know that sleeps on social media,
It looks suspicious.
Be careful before it turn into an addiction and affect results.
That's an advice from me.
.
I will not be brought back to this thread.
This is the final note.
.
Signs Out!

And our resident auxilliary walks away with her tail between her legs